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Noisy youth banned from own house
A Fife youth is said to have become the first person in Scotland to be banned from his own house under tough anti-social behaviour laws.

The 18-year-old from Leven had been "terrorising" his elderly neighbours in a block of four flats for months.

Fife Police said they had obtained a closure order to prevent him returning home for three months.

If his behaviour does not improve in that time, police can apply to have it extended for another three months.

The man regularly had about 20 people in his flat while playing music at a high volume. One of his neighbours is a 94-year-old woman whose health is said to have been affected.


The police and council will take action against those who continually behave in a way that destroys the quality of life of others
Supt Tony Fitzpatrick
Fife Police

Sixty people attended a public meeting called by local councillor Andrew Keddie to discuss the problem.

Superintendent Tony Fitzpatrick, anti-social behaviour coordinator for Fife Police, said: "The elderly people, who have put up with this intolerable situation for a long time, will finally be able to get some peace and quiet.

"These cases are quite difficult to deal with in many ways, as people feel intimidated and frightened to make formal complaints.

"The police have been monitoring this situation in Leven as it developed.

"Because the neighbours continued to keep us informed, we were able to build up a very strong case to allow us to make use of the new powers in the Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2004 and obtain a closure order."

'Peace and quiet'

He added: "We hope this will send out a strong message to the law abiding members of the community that the police and council will take action against those who continually behave in a way that destroys the quality of life of others.

"The consequence could be that the offenders find themselves out of their home - until they can behave properly."

Councillor Keddie, chairman of Fife's community safety partnership, added: "This new power will aid and assist us in preventing anti-social behaviour in the communities of Fife.

"I hope that peace and quiet will now return to the elderly people and other neighbours who have suffered so much from this young man's behaviour."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4201445.stm

man, that's pretty funny :D though for some reason i yearn to find out what music it was the dude was playing so loud...

i can imagine some people will read this and have a problem with the blatant 'government intrusion'...oh well.

An anti-social Fifer eh? I'd never thought I'd see the day :D

shs friggin 94, i dobut it was loud music that caused any decline in health, she probably walked outside one too many times on a wet day

I have to learn what music it was before I make an opinion :p

funny if it was ride of the valkyries or something

Interesting side note: The Kingdom of Fife (where the above story is set) in the spirit of patriotism independantly declaired war on Germany during the second world war - this declaration has never been retracted.

funny if it was ride of the valkyries or something
LOL

LOL
yeah i can accept the health deterioration there, she probably thought death was comnig for her

yeah i can accept the health deterioration there, she probably thought death was comnig for her

Hmm. I think I could certainly upstage that though :p

I have to learn what music it was before I make an opinion :p

By the sound of things it was drum & bass.....

By the sound of things it was drum & bass.....

Watch it be the soundtrack to "My Fair Lady" or something of the like...

With a little bit of luck
With a little bit of luck..

Okay, what in the nine Hells is this kid supposed to do?
Live on the street for three months?
This is absolutely ludicrous.

Okay, what in the nine Hells is this kid supposed to do?
Live on the street for three months?
This is absolutely ludicrous.
In principle, I disagree. If someone is repeatedly and willfully disturbing the peace, then action ought to be taken against that person.

The only thing that concerns me is that the article doesn't mention whether or not the man had formal complaints served against him prior to this action. Was he officially told by the authorities that he was being a problem? How many times was he told? When? ...or did he just show up at his own door one day to find that he couldn't get in?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."

In principle, I disagree. If someone is repeatedly and willfully disturbing the peace, then action ought to be taken against that person.

The only thing that concerns me is that the article doesn't mention whether or not the man had formal complaints served against him prior to this action. Was he officially told by the authorities that he was being a problem? How many times was he told? When? ...or did he just show up at his own door one day to find that he couldn't get in?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
I didn't thouroughly read the article, so I was probably wrong in my assumption.
My assumption was that this was the first action taken against him, before warning him or anything else.
I wonder what provisions are made in this "Anti-social Behaviour Act" for this, though. Does he get to live with someone else? On the street? Is he allowed to rent another home?
It seems like this wasn't the best course of action they could have taken, but I can't really come up with anything more effective myself.

Does anyone know where I can get the text of this "Anti-social Behaviour Act"?

The phrase "ultimate ban" could refer to a ban from the world of the living, but then, one is rarely that metaphorical.

Okay, what in the nine Hells is this kid supposed to do?
Live on the street for three months?
This is absolutely ludicrous.

That's his problem.

Okay, what in the nine Hells is this kid supposed to do?
Live on the street for three months?
This is absolutely ludicrous.

Well if he has 20 people in a flat I'm sure they will stick by him as friends, either that or he's being exploited and he's up shit creak. To be fair if 60 people bothered to turn up to a meeting on this topic then it is affecting a large enough amount of the community that the police could get the ASBO

Interesting side note: The Kingdom of Fife (where the above story is set) in the spirit of patriotism independantly declaired war on Germany during the second world war - this declaration has never been retracted.Fascinating. Do you have any more information about this?

Err, for everybody replying to my first post in this topic, here's a quote of my second which it seems nobody saw...

I didn't thouroughly read the article, so I was probably wrong in my assumption.
My assumption was that this was the first action taken against him, before warning him or anything else.
I wonder what provisions are made in this "Anti-social Behaviour Act" for this, though. Does he get to live with someone else? On the street? Is he allowed to rent another home?
It seems like this wasn't the best course of action they could have taken, but I can't really come up with anything more effective myself.

Does anyone know where I can get the text of this "Anti-social Behaviour Act"?

Err, for everybody replying to my first post in this topic, here's a quote of my second which it seems nobody saw...

http://www.crimereduction.gov.uk/asbos9.htm?fp

basic info not the best but hope it will do

Does anyone know where I can get the text of this "Anti-social Behaviour Act"?
The 2003 UK act (http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/20030038.htm)

The 2004 Scottish act (http://www.scotland-legislation.hmso.gov.uk/legislation/scotland/acts2004/20040008.htm)

Why do Scotland need their own act when they're part of the UK? Because they're awkward buggers :P

The 2003 UK act (http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/20030038.htm)

The 2004 Scottish act (http://www.scotland-legislation.hmso.gov.uk/legislation/scotland/acts2004/20040008.htm)

Why do Scotland need their own act when they're part of the UK? Because they're awkward buggers :P

The wonders of devolved gonernment! I think not

Loud music, which is meant to disturb one's neighbors, is "anti-social behaviour".

However, if the person was merely entertaining theirself, or visitors, their neighbors would have the right to complain. Because, any kind of music can be played at a low level, that would not unduly disturb anyone. ;)