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Salman Rushdie speaks some sense...

Vonners
24-01-2005, 14:08
The idea that any kind of free society can be constructed in which people will never be offended or insulted, have the right to call on the law to defend them against being offended or insulted, is absurd. In the end a fundamental decision needs to be made: do we want to live in a free society or not? Democracy is not a tea party where people sit around making polite conversation. In democracies people get extremely upset with each other. They argue vehemently against each other's positions. (But they don't shoot.)

At Cambridge I was taught a laudable method of argument: you never personalise, but you have absolutely no respect for people's opinions. You are never rude to the person, but you can be savagely rude about what the person thinks. That seems to me a crucial distinction: people must be protected from discrimination by virtue of their race, but you cannot ring-fence their ideas. The moment you say that any idea system is sacred, whether it's a belief system or a secular ideology, the moment you declare a set of ideas to be immune from criticism, satire, derision, or contempt, freedom of thought becomes impossible.

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=603426
Cannot think of a name
24-01-2005, 14:10
I was wondering if you where going to make this into its own thread....
ProMonkians
24-01-2005, 14:11
Go Salman Rushdie!
I read one of his books once (Fury), I liked it. Any of his others any gooD?
Stormforge
24-01-2005, 14:15
Makes sense to me. Some people need to take that to heart.
Vonners
24-01-2005, 14:15
I was wondering if you where going to make this into its own thread....

Yeah I was debating with myself whether or not there was any point....but then thought 'oh bugger it...whats the worst that can happen' :)
Cannot think of a name
24-01-2005, 14:18
Yeah I was debating with myself whether or not there was any point....but then thought 'oh bugger it...whats the worst that can happen' :)
No, it's a good call. Its too buried in the Halo thing.

Any side bets on the when/if someone starts personal attacks on Rushdie? That would be classic....
ProMonkians
24-01-2005, 14:21
Any side bets on the when/if someone starts personal attacks on Rushdie? That would be classic....

I think his beard is ugly!! He should shave it off! He's making a mockery of bearded men arround the world!!!!!!
Cannot think of a name
24-01-2005, 14:22
I think his beard is ugly!! He should shave it off! He's making a mockery of bearded men arround the world!!!!!!
nice :)
Vonners
24-01-2005, 14:34
No, it's a good call. Its too buried in the Halo thing.

Any side bets on the when/if someone starts personal attacks on Rushdie? That would be classic....

True...it is a bit buried....I guess it was a futile attempt at prolonging the life of a dead end thread LOL

As for attacks...page three at the latest :)
Vonners
24-01-2005, 14:37
I think his beard is ugly!! He should shave it off! He's making a mockery of bearded men arround the world!!!!!!

!LOLOL!!!
Vonners
24-01-2005, 19:24
True...it is a bit buried....I guess it was a futile attempt at prolonging the life of a dead end thread LOL

As for attacks...page three at the latest :)

well I guess page three is a bit hopefull...

So no one wants to discuss if the enlightenment will need to be refought?