What is your idea of a perfect world?
Overbearance
24-01-2005, 01:02
What is your idea of a perfect world, be as descriptive as possible please. :)
Kastoria
24-01-2005, 01:24
Sports, 24/7....all kinds. Each sport has its own channel. So I can go from footy to rugby to American football to tennis in one day...without missing a beat. So good....
All people in relationships are devoted to their partners. I'm a romantic at heart.
Music is produced for cheap and CDs/digital music is at about a quarter of the price its at now.
Food doesn't make you fat. or at least, you cannot become overweight from eating bad food. Pizza is the national staple.
If none of this works, I wish we were all hobbits and the entire world was the Shire....the simple life is for me. And short pants!
Vegas-Rex
24-01-2005, 01:25
A. None
B. Some world ruled by the principles of Rawl's veil of ignorance (look it up, its really cool)
C. The Earth at the end of I Robot (the book, not the movie)
D. The island of the Taltos (in the book Taltos, by Anne Rice)
E. The stuff I talked about in the heaven thread on Friday
Conceptualists
24-01-2005, 01:28
Free Market, no Government, no Capitalist, only decent music, where we can change our sex at will.
EDIT: And where tobacco is both cheap and not harmeful in any way.
One with very few laws. So I can do basically what I wanted whenever I wanted.
Nureonia
24-01-2005, 01:32
One where I was some sort of deity. The only one.
One where everyone finally realizes that I'm right.
:D
Kiwi-kiwi
24-01-2005, 01:42
One that's impossible due to the nature of humans. Everyone would have their part and do what they could, and everyone would get what they need. There would be none of this rich-poor stuff and all that...
I personally think that money is one of the main problems in the world. Money/material value anyway... the need to have more things that are worth more, as though it's a measure of how much you are worth. It's also something that I don't think we'll ever be able to get rid of.
Reaper_2k3
24-01-2005, 01:47
im with malkyer, but they realize im right, not him >_>
perfect world
a world encompassing benevolent dictatorship with each country electing its own goverment from a picked number of people by the ruler, a number of impartial appointed courts, strict control of big corporations so they dont rip every damn one off and sacrifice progress and safety for profit, mixed monetary system with more emphasis put on barter, extra emphasis placed on the progress of the sciences and education of people in a way that will relate to what job they will have later in life, not like start learning pertinent shit once you hit college, learn it through out your life, immediate execution of known and proven capital criminals. like if some one saw you murder some one or some other serious crime, your ass is dead, curtails extremist religious beliefs through education and diplomacy
Von Stickler
24-01-2005, 02:05
A world, where decent men and women walk the streets.
Where water flows uphill.
Where miracles can happen behind enemy lines,
without air support.
And where a guy (Boy or girl) can stand on the wall that seperates you from the barbarians, take a bullet, and shoot back at the son-of-a-*Expletive deleted* who fired it.
Unless you can understand this, you'll never understand me.
I wanna take you there.
Superpower07
24-01-2005, 02:05
A libertarian society
Bitchkitten
24-01-2005, 02:09
Where I get to be the omnipotent god. I could have so much fun. Even better than running your own nation!
:D
Jenn Jenn Land
24-01-2005, 02:10
What is your idea of a perfect world, be as descriptive as possible please. :)
No disease. No meaness. Everybody's happy, and hot, and horny, and we all have a lot of sex all day long every day with no unwanted pregnancies.
Los Banditos
24-01-2005, 02:16
To quote a Guttermouth song titled "Perfect World":
If I lived in a perfect world
I would spend my days lying in the sun
The party never ends in a perfect world
If your life has hit the skids
Wave goodbye to the wife & kids
I’m ready to move in to a perfect world
Nacho cheese and anarchy
Boy that sure sounds good to me
Every kind of drug is free
In the new america
Shoot your pistol in the air
Celebrate a brand new year
Living leisurely in a perfect world
Everybody’s drinking hams
Good by all you straight edge bands
Sit around and get a tan
In the new america
When I turn on my t.v.
Nothing but pornography
No more rated g in a perfect world
Strung out hookers everywhere
Have a picnic feed the bears
Now nobody even cares
In the new america
Nothing in this worlds for free
Cause everything belongs to me
No more green fees in a perfect world
Yep, that would be my perfect world.
Rangerville
24-01-2005, 02:38
This song by Garth Brooks perfectly explains my idea of a perfect world
"This ain't coming from no prophet
Just an ordinary man
When i close my eyes i see
The way this world could be
When we all walk hand in hand
When the last child cries for a crust of bread
When the last man dies for just words that he said
When there's shelter over the poorest heads
We shall be free
When the last thing we notice is the color of skin
When the first thing we look for is the beauty within
When the skies and the oceans are clean again
We shall be free
We shall be free
We shall be free
Have faith, walk proud
We shall be free
When we're free to love anyone we choose
When this world's big enough for all different views
When we all worship from our own kinds of pews
We shall be free
We shall be free
We shall be free
Have a little faith, hold out
We shall be free
And when money talks for the very last time
And nobody walks a step behind
When there's only one race and that's mankind
We shall be free."
New Genoa
24-01-2005, 02:39
me as supreme ruler and carmen elektra and fifty other hot chicks from 'round the world as my concubines. oh yeah and that freedom stuff, I guess.
The Plutonian Empire
24-01-2005, 02:46
In my perfect world, there are absolutely NO "indecency" laws--people can get it on in public if they want. The legal age of marriage is reduced to 13, along with the age of sexual consent.
There is no abortion, no death penalty.
Everyone is healthy.
All the babes have boobs between C-cup and EEE-cup :D (you knew someone had to bring it up eventually!)
no one is over 5'2 (I thought I was 5'4, until I measured myself and got 5'2 instead)
The Plutonian Empire is the only nation governing the planet, and has expanded to the ends of the universe and beyond.
I have my very own wife who like sex just as much as I do :D :fluffle:
I get trillions of :fluffle:es per day from all 3.5 billion women on this planet :D
And much, much more ;)
EDIT: And unlimited sex with whoever we want (friends, family, etc) :D
New Anthrus
24-01-2005, 02:47
For Science and Technology:
I'd like a rapidly progressing world, where the mind has finally conquered every last physical object.
For Society: I want a religious, thoughtful populace who know their manners, and that cuts no one off in the passing lane.
For Culture:
Whatever the heck it turns into is fine. If I don't like it, great! Variety is the spice of life.
For the economy:
Everyone gets rich all the time.
For the government:
A one world liberatarian government that passes the basic laws (against murder and such), and protects us from space aliens.
For me:
I want a house on my private Carribean Island, where I can watch waterskiiers all day, and read a book while sipping a magahrita. I'd have a condo in New York, Vienna, and on the moon. It'd be a nice and quiet life for me to reflect, and become closer to God.
The Plutonian Empire
24-01-2005, 02:49
No disease. No meaness. Everybody's happy, and hot, and horny, and we all have a lot of sex all day long every day with no unwanted pregnancies.
Hey, how about me? :D
Roach-Busters
24-01-2005, 03:19
A world without roaches. :)
Johnistan
24-01-2005, 03:22
Basically just a constant line of beautiful women waiting to do you know what with me.
Roaming Beasts
24-01-2005, 03:26
Alot like my nation, but with less crime.
New Anthrus
24-01-2005, 03:28
A world without roaches. :)
As you're an exterminator, why don't you hate other bugs? I mean, don't you take pleasure in killing spiders?
The Plutonian Empire
24-01-2005, 03:29
Basically just a constant line of beautiful women waiting to do you know what with me.
Does your idea of a beautiful woman constitute 7 foot 90 pound stick figures, like today's supermodels are?
Roach-Busters
24-01-2005, 03:30
As you're an exterminator, why don't you hate other bugs? I mean, don't you take pleasure in killing spiders?
Not as much as killing roaches. ;)
New Anthrus
24-01-2005, 03:32
Not as much as killing roaches. ;)
I see.
Bill Mutz
24-01-2005, 04:09
New York City with San Francisco's clean air, North Carolina's weather, Florida's beaches, the UK's music, Tokyo's police force, Massachusetts's laws on gay marriage, South Korea's failure to start shrieking in terror and going totally apeshit at the mention of human cloning, China's atheistic government, Australia and New Zealand's scenery and wildlife, Slovenia's schools, German architects, Vietnam, Thailand, and China's cooking, New Hampshire's taxes, an average lifespan of about five-hundred years with mine being about two-hundred and thirty-one years, three months, eight days, nine hours, thirty-one minutes, two seconds, and eight-hundred and thirty-five thousand, six-hundred and fifty-six point one nanoseconds, I die in a skydiving accident in which I am wearing nothing but a strap-on and clown make-up and land about three feet from where two litte kids are playing in a kiddy pool (YAY FOR TRAUMATIZING CHILDREN!) but only after my body has been completely waxed, there is no Nascar, Christians are kept in zoos or on the moon, the world president is a humpback whale with a hearing disorder, and it's still cool to go to a disco.
Overbearance
24-01-2005, 19:12
i shouldve expected some perverted answers like some of these. oh well.
Boopdaloop
24-01-2005, 19:17
EDIT: And unlimited sex with whoever we want (friends, family, etc) :D[/QUOTE]
That's pretty sick mate
Rasselas
24-01-2005, 19:24
EDIT: And where tobacco is both cheap and not harmeful in any way.
I like the sound of that...
Siljhouettes
24-01-2005, 19:53
Sounds like most people are going for the anarchist "sexfest" style world. Ahhh, sure sign me up!
My perfect world will never come to pass as long as people remain essentially selfish and self-centred. Well, here goes anyway...
There would be no money - and hence no poverty, misery or capitalists. The basis of society would be, "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." People would gladly supply one another with necessities and some measure of luxuries, and would simply take what they needed, having lost all selfishness and hence any temptation to take more than they would know what to do with, or to deprive others.
People would be tolerant, friendly, intelligent. They would have learned to stop and think for themselves about important issues, free of hate, propaganda, fear of others, jealousy and intolerance.
Eventually there would be no more government, when people finally accept that "no government" doesn't mean doing whatever they want, but instead being responsible, and caring for one another without selfishness.
You would be free to do anything which does not harm other people; rigid codes of morality would have disappeared, replaced by a responsible sense of ethics.
The disappearance of selfishness would entail universal vegetarianism and anti-specism, the full recognition of the rights of animals, and of the responsability man has towards nature.
Pure Metal
24-01-2005, 19:57
a compassionate and empathetic world; education, knowledge and the greater good (Rousseau) valued above materialistic goods and modern 'celebrity culture'; and only good music, free drugs & booze, and jobs for all. to be even more idealistic, let's have world peace too :D
Pure Metal
24-01-2005, 20:00
My perfect world will never come to pass as long as people remain essentially selfish and self-centred. Well, here goes anyway...
There would be no money - and hence no poverty, misery or capitalists. The basis of society would be, "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." People would gladly supply one another with necessities and some measure of luxuries, and would simply take what they needed, having lost all selfishness and hence any temptation to take more than they would know what to do with, or to deprive others.
People would be tolerant, friendly, intelligent. They would have learned to stop and think for themselves about important issues, free of hate, propaganda, fear of others, jealousy and intolerance.
Eventually there would be no more government, when people finally accept that "no government" doesn't mean doing whatever they want, but instead being responsible, and caring for one another without selfishness.
You would be free to do anything which does not harm other people; rigid codes of morality would have disappeared, replaced by a responsible sense of ethics.
The disappearance of selfishness would entail universal vegetarianism and anti-specism, the full recognition of the rights of animals, and of the responsability man has towards nature.
wow sounds like a great place! nice - except for the lack of government - no time to figure out why though
Doraland
24-01-2005, 20:02
It would probably take a Jacobin-stye Revolution and Reign of Terror to achieve my kind of ideal world, so there's not much chance of it happening.
A majority Pagan, humanistic society with emphasis on science, logic, and reason. Free public education from kindergarten to college would be the educational bedrock. Passion would also have its place, in the form of the arts, music, poetry, etc. The people would be the national militia. Every man and woman would keep and bear arms. A standing army would exist, but it would not rule the country. Police would be well-trained, well-armed, and highly disciplined. Corporations would have a free market, but they would not have the right to form monopolies. They could keep their profits, but would have to deal with the trade unions, which would have the right to strike, seldom used. There would be no corporate welfare, and no generational welfare. There would be old-age pensions and some basic, last-resort public health insurance for all, with any additional being privately owned. Taxes would be a single rate- 25%, and only those in the upper-classes would be pay it. Tariffs would be enough to raise revenue and provide some protection to industries, but not enough to discourage foreign trade. Co-operative shops and farms would also exist, but would be purely optional, one more choice in the macroeconomy. Churches would pay their fair share of taxes as well, and not be subsidized. Estate taxes would be limited to a small share of any estate, enough to prevent too much aristocracy, but not enough to deprive children of their parents' legacies and spouses of some share of their husbands' or wives' assets. There would be free and open elections for all elective offices, which would include the head of state, as the ideal state would be a Republic, of course. There would be no titular nobility. There would be checks and balances to prevent one-man rule or tyranny of the majority. There would be a Bill of Rights. Outsourcing would be unheard of, and the rich would not be penalized for their success, only asked to pay a little more due to their benefit from the protection of the state. There would be a minimum wage, but not one high enough to discourage employment. There would be full civil liberties, with no restrictions on the rights of consenting adults. Gay marriage, drugs, prostitution, and polygamy would be legal. There would be one appeal for capital crimes, during which DNA would be available, and then the convicted murderers would be put to death. Thieves would pay restitution to their victims, rapists would be chemically castrated along with child molesters, and spies would be shot. The fewer laws, though, the fewer crimes. Abortion would be legal until the 2nd trimester, when it would become illegal as murder. Voluntary euthanasia, but not involuntary, would be legal. So would assisted suicide. Condoms would be freely distributed in public schools from grades 9 to the senior year in college.
wow sounds like a great place! nice - except for the lack of government - no time to figure out why though
Well, thank you! I hesitated before putting in "no government", but I think it would be possible if all the rest came to pass. Having said that, as things are today, I'm more of an advocate of a strong government which takes its social responsabilities seriously and ensures the needs and well-being of all its citizens.
Legless Pirates
24-01-2005, 20:05
Back to the stone age! We're waaaaay overcrowded now
Free Market, no Government, no Capitalist, only decent music, where we can change our sex at will.
A free market can't exist without capitalism. A free market is what capitalism is.
I have two ideal worlds, one of which is ideal for me and one of which is ideal for society.
In the "Me" ideal world, I'm omnipotent and immortal. Simple as that.
In the "Society" ideal world, capitalist companies compete with eachother to provide great services and goods at negligible prices. The government interferes only to prevent fraud, theft and damage to people and property. Well no, actually if it's a perfect world there's no crime. Everyone is free to do as they please provided they don't steal from or directly harm anyone without that person's consent.
The heavy metal of the 1980's is universally popular, and the entire populace demands to hear the likes of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden broadcast constantly on radio and in live venues. Though pop musicians of various sorts are allowed to compete thanks to the free-market capitalist society, nobody buys their music because they suck. Metal rules the land.
Bono is the Messiah
24-01-2005, 20:08
I'd like to live in a simpler world. No banks, credit cards, bills coming every week. Something like the Middle Ages, but without the war and death and stuff.
Conceptualists
24-01-2005, 20:16
A free market can't exist without capitalism. A free market is what capitalism is.
Or maybe not. Free markets existed long before capitalism did. And it is possible to argue that capitalism would really struggle in a proper free market
(NB: You do realise the current state the US market isn't free right?)
Doraland
24-01-2005, 20:26
A free market, according to the defnition that Adam Smith gave would be capitalistic. Actually, the US market is much freer than say, Sweden's.
Conceptualists
24-01-2005, 20:29
A free market, according to the defnition that Adam Smith gave would be capitalistic. Actually, the US market is much freer than say, Sweden's.
China's market is much freer then the USSR's, doesn't mean China has a free market though.
And whilst Adam Smith was very influential, what currently passes as capitalism isn't the same as what Smith described. To claim that it is is like claiming Lysander Spooner in an Anarcho-Capitalist
Or maybe not. Free markets existed long before capitalism did. And it is possible to argue that capitalism would really struggle in a proper free market
(NB: You do realise the current state the US market isn't free right?)
I do realise that. But the common usage of the word capitalism implies a society where government does not intefere with economic dealings or trade. That's a free market.
So actually, capitalism wouldn't struggle in a free market, it would BE a free market. To my mind capitalism and free-market society are synonyms.
Conceptualists
24-01-2005, 20:42
I do realise that. But the common usage of the word capitalism implies a society where government does not intefere with economic dealings or trade. That's a free market.
The common usage of the word evolution tends to be closer to Lamarkianism rather then the actual modern theory.
Common usages can be wrong.
So actually, capitalism wouldn't struggle in a free market, it would BE a free market. To my mind capitalism and free-market society are synonyms.
Capitalism in its current manifestation definetly would struggle, especially for western business that heavily really upon government subsidies to sell their products cheaply definitely would.
>>>To my mind capitalism and free-market society are synonyms.
But not in mine ;)
Capitalism in its current manifestation definetly would struggle, especially for western business that heavily really upon government subsidies to sell their products cheaply definitely would.
>>>To my mind capitalism and free-market society are synonyms.
But not in mine ;)
By definition a government subsidy goes entirely against capitalist values. Government interference in private enterprise is a typically socialist idea. Really, you need to understand what capitalism is. The United States do not have a truly capitalist society, with their rampant subsidies and restrictions. However, they are perhaps one of the closest societies to being capitalist.
To have government control or regulate industry and trade is socialism. To have government leave industry and business alone is capitalism.
Conceptualists
24-01-2005, 21:01
By definition a government subsidy goes entirely against capitalist values. Government interference in private enterprise is a typically socialist idea. Really, you need to understand what capitalism is. The United States do not have a truly capitalist society, with their rampant subsidies and restrictions. However, they are perhaps one of the closest societies to being capitalist.
You seem to be back tracking. Previously you were infering that the way a word is commonly used is it definition, but now are saying something different.
However, capitalism is more then just what the free market is or isn't. It is the industrial process behind the way goods are produced and can exist without the free market [hence why the USSR is occasionally decribed as State-Capitalist]
To have government control or regulate industry and trade is socialism. To have government leave industry and business alone is capitalism.
So useing your definition, the Tudor monarchs [say] were really socialists?
So useing your definition, the Tudor monarchs [say] were really socialists?
No, but their tendancy towards economic totalitarianism was socialist. They of course lacked the whole "give to the poor" ideal.
i would be the benevelent god emperor.advised and aided by an elected council from indepdendant city states.
Sex would not be restricted and is in fact encouraged.
the market would be suitably controlled yet suitably free to prevent the problems of socialism and capitilsim.
no one would be poor,hungry or alone.
magick ^-^
something besides humans to talk too.
a large harem for my amusement.
everyone respects eachothers opinions.
yeah if only.