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Greeks defend ancient nudes
From correspondents in Athens
January 19, 2005

US viewers' complaints that the Athens Olympics opening ceremony featured lewd nudity have infuriated 2004 Games chief Gianna Angelopoulos.

She has warned American regulators to back off from policing ancient Greek culture.
Ms Angelopoulos warned the Federal Communications Commission watchdog, sensitive after a deluge of outrage when singer Janet Jackson's breast was exposed at a Super Bowl game, not to punish NBC television, which aired the Games.

Male nudity, a woman's breast and simulated sex were the subjects of complaints about the opening ceremony on August 13 which were posted on the FCC website.

"Far from being indecent, the opening ceremonies were beautiful, enlightening, uplifting and enjoyable," Ms Angelopoulos wrote in a weekend commentary in the titled "Since When is Greece's Culture Obscene?"

"Greece does not wish to be drawn into an American culture war. Yet that is exactly what is happening," she said.

Complaints focused on a parade of actors portraying naked statues.

Among them were the satyr and the nude male statues, kouroi, both emblems of ancient Greece's golden age.

An FCC spokesman was not immediately available for comment yesterday.

Created by modern Greek dancer Dimitris Papaioannou, the opening ceremony was credited with giving the Games a successful start.

The FCC, whose authority only extends to US media, has said it is looking into complaints, nine of which were listed on its website, but it was not clear whether a formal investigation would be launched.

Ms Angelopoulos, who said the handful of American complaints were dwarfed by the 3.9 billion people who watched the opening ceremony.

"As Americans surely are aware, there is great hostility in the world today to cultural domination in which a single value system created elsewhere diminishes and degrades local cultures," she said in her commentary.

"In this context, it is astonishingly unwise for an agency of the US government to engage in an investigation that could label a presentation of the Greek origins of civilisation as unfit for television viewing."

Amazing, 9 prudes with an internet connection may get 2000 years of culture banned from American TV :confused: . Poor Americans, there is always one (or nine).

Now, I'm fucking pissed.

They take our movies.
They take our shows.
They take our classics.
Now they take their culture.

Americans...*spits*

Now, I'm fucking pissed.

They take our movies.
They take our shows.
They take our classics.
Now they take their culture.

Because that's what our government is for!
It keeps us "safe"... Or something.

"[...]
an empowered and informed member of society
(pragmatism not idealism),
will not cry in public,
less chance of illness,
tires that grip in the wet
(shot of baby strapped in back seat),
a good memory,
still cries at a good film,
still kisses with saliva,
no longer empty and frantic like a cat tied to a stick,
that's driven into frozen winter shit
(the ability to laugh at weakness),
calm,
fitter,
healthier and more productive
a pig in a cage on antibiotics."
-"Fitter Happier", Radiohead

(don't shoot me for quoting Radiohead...)

It's not the government that's doing this. The FCC isn't controlled by the government...


as far as I know, at least.

Complaints focused on a parade of actors portraying naked statues.

Why did Europe get the normal people and America get the religious prudes during early colonization? What kind of wretched person would be offended by an art museum? If the FCC takes any action whatsoever against American broadcasters then I completely disown my government.

FCC is government agency ain't it? Federal Communications commission.

It's not the government that's doing this. The FCC isn't controlled by the government...


as far as I know, at least.
Really?
I thought it was...

Oh well, close enough.
:p

FCC is government agency ain't it? Federal Communications commission.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

FCC is government agency ain't it? Federal Communications commission.
touche

You know, 9 people out of 293,000,000 isn't a bad ratio. Heck, I'd call that within the margin of error !! :D

I think this thread reeks like eskimo pie and buttered asparagus, with a fried shit twinkie on the side. And a dogshit milkshake. Anyone want a discuss doughnuts instead, how about doughnut holes, ok ok how about ketchup vs mustard....................Get a life

This just in....Beep.....Beep....Beep....Beep....Beep

There are nine retards in the usa somewhere who are vocal about their stupid issues, lets all start a thread about it.

I think this thread reeks like eskimo pie and buttered asparagus, with a fried shit twinkie on the side. And a dogshit milkshake. Anyone want a discuss doughnuts instead, how about doughnut holes, ok ok how about ketchup vs mustard....................Get a life
Ya know, WHY DO THEY put those damn holes in donuts? All they do is break up the donut in two while I'm eating one...

Ya know, WHY DO THEY put those damn holes in donuts? All they do is break up the donut in two while I'm eating one...
I agree with your point, but it does make it easier to break in halve for dipping in scrumptious milk, or chocolate milk, whatever floats your boat

America: Sex?

America: The Book
America: The movie
America: The position? :fluffle:

America: The Book
America: The movie
America: The position? :fluffle:
America: WTF?!?!?!?!?!!? (the book)

Go Greeks Go!

If this becomes a major stink, I for one will be siding with the greeks. Neither the FCC nor any of these "watchdog groups" have any right being our cultural police.

America: The toilet
America: The car

Edit - no, that is not intentioal to have the toilet and the car next to eachother. Model T's pwn!!!!1
Its all as Yogurt said

MERCHANDIZING: WHERE THE REAL MONEY FROM THE MOVIES IS MADE!

I love synchronised diving. Some of those girls teetee's are poking out of their swimsuits.. oohlala.

This just in....Beep.....Beep....Beep....Beep....Beep

There are nine retards in the usa somewhere who are vocal about their stupid issues, lets all start a thread about it.

I take it from this post and the other that you don't like this thread. Then why have you repeatedly posted on it? :rolleyes: Why not start a thread about it? I mean it's not like the author used it as a tool to say all Americans are prudish idiots. :rolleyes:

9 idiots causing an internation incident. Sounds like treason to me.

It's not the government that's doing this. The FCC isn't controlled by the government...


as far as I know, at least.

Actually it is.

9 idiots causing an internation incident. Sounds like treason to me.

Round them up and proform a vivisection on them using a rusty spoon!

Reminds me of that Simpsons episode where they banned the statue of David...

As an American Greek, I am shocked, and shall hunt these nine down to the ends of the earth, and stuff them to death with spanikopita.

Round them up and proform a vivisection on them using a rusty spoon!

Too good for them. Use the rusty spoon on their tongues, castrate by sawed-off 12-gauge, and let them live as examples.

As an American Greek, I am shocked, and shall hunt these nine down to the ends of the earth, and stuff them to death with spanikopita. Why not baklava?:D

Too good for them. Use the rusty spoon on their tongues, castrate by sawed-off 12-gauge, and let them live as examples.
*shudders*

I don't know... how about gyros? No, I'll do dolmas. They're easier to make. *runs off to get the grape leaves*

I don't know... how about gyros? No, I'll do dolmas. They're easier to make. *runs off to get the grape leaves*

Mmm, I have to go and eat something now!:D

Mmm, I have to go and eat something now!:D
Here, have a dolma! *frisbees a plate to flamebaittrolls*

Here, have a dolma! *frisbees a plate to flamebaittrolls*
Mmm, Greek food...

*drools*

Americans...*spits*
I have a MUCH better idea:

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/4831/SS-18_Satan.png

3. 2. 1.

*American civilization finally destroyed.*

:D

Only in America can nine clueless idiots deny ancient culture to the rest of its citizenry, and only in America a naked breast or a penis in the rectum is considered to be more dangerous than Osama Bin Ladin running about in the globe.

On the other hand, here's an idea I'd love to see just to give those nine idiots or people like them fatal heart attacks:

The next time the Summer Olympics takes place in Athens, have it done Old School Greek:

EVERYONE COMPETING BUCK NEKKID!!

:D :D :D

Only in America can nine clueless idiots deny ancient culture to the rest of its citizenry, and only in America a naked breast or a penis in the rectum is considered to be more dangerous than Osama Bin Ladin running about in the globe.

On the other hand, here's an idea I'd love to see just to give those nine idiots or people like them fatal heart attacks:

The next time the Summer Olympics takes place in Athens, have it done Old School Greek:

EVERYONE COMPETING BUCK NEKKID!!

:D :D :D
LOL

The next time the Summer Olympics takes place in Athens, have it done Old School Greek:

EVERYONE COMPETING BUCK NEKKID!!
Yeah, do!
Some of those athletes are *so* dreamy...

*drifts off into a daydream*

have it done Old School Greek:

ONLY MEN CAN COMPETE


*pukes..* Though I am up for the Bucknaked. Especially Synchronised Diving.

have it done Old School Greek:

ONLY MEN CAN COMPETE


*pukes..* Though I am up for the Bucknaked. Especially Synchronised Diving.

I would go for the ancient greek principle of bucknaked, and as we men are sorry for our dominiation of the olympics in ancient times, we now let women only participate for the next 2700 years.

I would go for the ancient greek principle of bucknaked, and as we men are sorry for our dominiation of the olympics in ancient times, we now let women only participate for the next 2700 years.

OH yes. Hallelujah brother. Stupid 9 christians. :D

OH yes. Hallelujah brother. Stupid 9 christians. :D

The Puritans came to America because England wouldn't allow them the freedom to be as repressive and oppressive as they wanted.

The Puritans came to America because England wouldn't allow them the freedom to be as repressive and oppressive as they wanted.

There have been cases in Texas of fundamenatlist Christians converting to fundamentalist Islam because they feel it allows them to be more fundamentalist then they already are. I doubt it's widespread though.

The FCC, whose authority only extends to US media, has said it is looking into complaints, nine of which were listed on its website, but it was not clear whether a formal investigation would be launched

Meaning that there were more than 9 complaints.

I wonder how many the FCC actually recieved...

Source (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,11983539-13762,00.html)



Amazing, 9 prudes with an internet connection may get 2000 years of culture banned from American TV :confused: . Poor Americans, there is always one (or nine).

4000

These nine people are probably the types of Bush-voting Americans who want America to be a Christian moralist dictatorship.

4000

Well spotted!

Americans...*spits*If you've got a problem with this country, then move over here, and vote in our elections. Get your ass over here. We need you. Come on. COME ON! Please?

Help...

The Puritans came to America because England wouldn't allow them the freedom to be as repressive and oppressive as they wanted.
Sounds like the modern conservative Christian complaints about liberals.

There have been cases in Texas of fundamenatlist Christians converting to fundamentalist Islam because they feel it allows them to be more fundamentalist then they already are. I doubt it's widespread though.
That's so funny! They sound like people who are ever striving to hate gays more than they already do.

4,000 people. Wow, it's the majority of the minor minority ...

4,000 people. Wow, it's the majority of the minor minority ...

um...4000 years DOH!

um...4000 years DOH!

I'm boosting the number of idiots complaining so they don't feel so alone :p

I'm boosting the number of idiots complaining so they don't feel so alone :p

LOL:)

Greeks ain't all that hot. At least they didn't pull out their vasoline and do it the "Greek" way!

Wow, the FCC will censor anything nowadays

Source (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,11983539-13762,00.html)



Amazing, 9 prudes with an internet connection may get 2000 years of culture banned from American TV :confused: . Poor Americans, there is always one (or nine).

On behalf of this American,

I for one ENJOYED the opening ceremonies. It gave me new insight into the Greek Culture that I didn't have before and seeing the culture displayed proudly shows us that we ought to take pride in our culture.

These nine people need to get a life. Its the Greek Culture back in the days of Ancient Greece. I think these people need to research Greece more before stating something stupid.

4000
My bad! Thankyou numbers for your numbers!:p

My bad! Thankyou numbers for your numbers!:p

It's actually more like 2783 but meh.


Archaic Period (800 BC - 500 BC)
...
776 BC Date of the first Olympic games.

[http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/aegean/timeline.html]

I'm embarresed to be American! We're all such prudes it's damn unbelievable! And you know what else? I visited the Getty museum- renowned as one of the best collections of ancient art in the world -and for some reason all the male statue's penises had gone missing, and the female statue's seemed to be missing their vulva. I know that the ancient sculptors didn't usually put overly much detail on the female genitals, but damnit, I doubt they completely ignored them.

Americans piss me.

I'm embarresed to be American! We're all such prudes it's damn unbelievable! And you know what else? I visited the Getty museum- renowned as one of the best collections of ancient art in the world -and for some reason all the male statue's penises had gone missing, and the female statue's seemed to be missing their vulva. I know that the ancient sculptors didn't usually put overly much detail on the female genitals, but damnit, I doubt they completely ignored them.

Americans piss me.

Not just Americans (though they have some of the larger numbers), but puritans in general. Any person who wishes to censor anything because they feel it to be "immoral" is an idiot and pisses me off.

Amazing, 9 prudes with an internet connection may get 2000 years of culture banned from American TV :confused: . Poor Americans, there is always one (or nine).

Ahhh, the price of allowing people to speak their minds! Tsk! :rolleyes:

Ahhh, the price of allowing people to speak their minds! Tsk! :rolleyes:

Yes, but it's one thing to speak your mind and say it's offensive and ignore it yourself; it's another thing entirely to attempt to ban millions of people (some of whom might not share your views) from seeing it.