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How can we call this a society when people like JFk and Lincoln are shot, but people like Bush arent? I mean what is wrong with this world? The man who shot Bobby Kennedy, who ran against Nixon before Nixon was even elected, was shot by an angry palestinian, why was he angry? He pledged to give money to Israel. What has Bush done? Again, why wasnt he assassinated, he has four years.

Watches as a black Mercedes pulls in front of house, starts to laugh, takes out copy of Constitution.

because hes smart enough to know everyone hates him and would kill him first chance they get. he surrounds himself with only peopel that agree with him and doesnt ride in open vehicles

Why isnt Bush....gone.

Because you touch yourself at night.

How can we call this a society when people like JFk and Lincoln are shot, but people like Bush arent?

I believe slightly left wing presidents are more likely to get shot because extremists with guns in America are usually far right wingers.

[George W. Bush] doesn't ride in open vehicles
Neither has any President since Kennedy.

Neither has any President since Kennedy.
and he maks sure to surround himself with only people that agree with him, and im sure they are still well screened

because hes smart enough to know everyone hates him and would kill him first chance they get. he surrounds himself with only peopel that agree with him and doesnt ride in open vehicles

Yeah, everyone does hate him. Besides 52% of America, that is.

...why wasnt he assassinated, he has four years.
Improved presidential security?

Give the snipers time.

It's true. Bush's death is overdue, according to Tecumseh's curse.
For those who don't know, Tecumseh's curse was set by Tecumseh, a native american who tried to organize an alliance of tribes to keep back US expansion. He failed, and was killed by William Henry Harrison. According to legend, as he died he laid a curse on the United States that every president elected in a year ending with 0 would suffer a terrible malady. From 1840 onwards, starting with Harrison himself, every president elected in a year ending with 0 died in office. Furthermore, these were the only presidents to die in office. The curse seems to have stopped with Regan though. My guess is that Tecumsh decided it was more of a curse to let him live. Unfortunately, the same seems to apply to Bush.

Just because someone votes for Bush doesn't mean they don't hate him. I know lots of people who hate Bush, and only voted for him because he was the "lesser of two evils."

Just because someone votes for Bush doesn't mean they don't hate him. I know lots of people who hate Bush, and only voted for him because he was the "lesser of two evils."

Which was like .0001% of the vote. Your argument is invalid. YOU LOSE. 0 LIVES. GAME OVER. OUT OF QUARTERS, TOO.

How can we call this a society when people like JFk and Lincoln are shot, but people like Bush arent? I mean what is wrong with this world? The man who shot Bobby Kennedy, who ran against Nixon before Nixon was even elected, was shot by an angry palestinian, why was he angry? He pledged to give money to Israel. What has Bush done? Again, why wasnt he assassinated, he has four years.

Watches as a black Mercedes pulls in front of house, starts to laugh, takes out copy of Constitution.
I'm not sure what your point is. Sounds like you're whining. Please stop.

Yeah, everyone does hate him. Besides 52% of America, that is.
52% of voting america, and thats no guarantee they were voting for him as for his propaganda campaign

Which was like .0001% of the vote. Your argument is invalid. YOU LOSE. 0 LIVES. GAME OVER. OUT OF QUARTERS, TOO.
im sure this mature, and intelligent reply has statistics to back it up

Security has been tight lately. Not just from Bush, but, as said, from every president SINCE Kennedy.

By the way, Lincoln was not exactly left wing. He was a Republican, after all.

I only wish that we could execute people for even THINKING things anti-government.

You may think all right-wingers are rednecks with guns. Well, you'll be sorry when you're the one WITHOUT the gun.

:sniper:

The only problem with trying to shoot bush is this, he has no heart, so that rules out the most effective target, and his brain is not only small, but mostly dead, thereby ruling out the backup target.

What's a poor sniper to do?

Security has been tight lately. Not just from Bush, but, as said, from every president SINCE Kennedy.

By the way, Lincoln was not exactly left wing. He was a Republican, after all.

I only wish that we could execute people for even THINKING things anti-government.

You may think all right-wingers are rednecks with guns. Well, you'll be sorry when you're the one WITHOUT the gun.

:sniper:

Back then Republicans were left wing, and vice versa.

Back then Republicans were left wing, and vice versa.

Back then, they didn't really have the term, so he was neither. :-p

The only problem with trying to shoot bush is this, he has no heart, so that rules out the most effective target, and his brain is not only small, but mostly dead, thereby ruling out the backup target.

What's a poor sniper to do?
Hmn....well, he does seem to breath. Why not go for the lungs...

because hes smart enough to know everyone hates him and would kill him first chance they get. he surrounds himself with only peopel that agree with him and doesnt ride in open vehicles



first you spelled people wrong and wait a minute... Bush WALKED down Pennsylvania avenue with nothing covering him. and if everyone would kill him why dont you? huh?

Security has been tight lately. Not just from Bush, but, as said, from every president SINCE Kennedy.

By the way, Lincoln was not exactly left wing. He was a Republican, after all.

I only wish that we could execute people for even THINKING things anti-government.

You may think all right-wingers are rednecks with guns. Well, you'll be sorry when you're the one WITHOUT the gun.

:sniper:
Sorry, but you're obviously an idiot. And you're hardly right-wing if you believe that the thought police and big government are a good idea.
Please, educate yourself on your own party and ideology before posting here.


And don't use the annoying gun smileys. 'Tis the true sign of the NS n00b.

Back then, they didn't really have the term, so he was neither. :-p

By today's standards, republicans were generally left-wing back then. But Lincoln himself was really more of a moderate.

How can we call this a society when people like JFk and Lincoln are shot, but people like Bush arent? I mean what is wrong with this world? The man who shot Bobby Kennedy, who ran against Nixon before Nixon was even elected, was shot by an angry palestinian, why was he angry? He pledged to give money to Israel. What has Bush done? Again, why wasnt he assassinated, he has four years.

Watches as a black Mercedes pulls in front of house, starts to laugh, takes out copy of Constitution.


If by "takes out a copy of the constitution" you mean freedom of speech then you're wrong. mainly cause lets see thats slander and a couple of other things and those are not protected under the ammendment so ha! maybe you should research a little more before you talk.

And you people openly discussing murdering a president, post-patriot act are idots as well.
Not terribly bright.

first you spelled people wrong and wait a minute... Bush WALKED down Pennsylvania avenue with nothing covering him. and if everyone would kill him why dont you? huh?
id like pictures of thatm r neocon,. and id love to see you explain why bottles were banned for 100 m radius from where the stupid parade was, well mroe of a motorcade than parad
and oh wait, look at all that punctuation and capitalization you forgot

id like pictures of thatm r neocon,. and id love to see you explain why bottles were banned for 100 m radius from where the stupid parade was, well mroe of a motorcade than parad
and oh wait, look at all that punctuation and capitalization you forgot
The difference is "thatm" you were insulting Bush's intelligence, and he was just pointing out how you were in no place to judge.

id like pictures of thatm r neocon,. and id love to see you explain why bottles were banned for 100 m radius from where the stupid parade was, well mroe of a motorcade than parad
and oh wait, look at all that punctuation and capitalization you forgot


oh wait punctuation doesnt matter as much spelling because you can understand it still but if you spell things wrong then people cant understand it.

and ok no ones gonna kill anyone with a bottle stupid. they just dont want immature people like you apparently are throwing bottles and trash at people. and no smart person would be very close if they were going to shoot someone they would be somewhere where they could get away easily. smart
one.

oh yeah what do you want pictures of ?

I believe slightly left wing presidents are more likely to get shot because extremists with guns in America are usually far right wingers.
that's why 3 of 4 assassinated Presidents are Republican (rolls eyes)

oh wait punctuation doesnt matter as much spelling because you can understand it still but if you spell things wrong then people cant understand it.

and ok no ones gonna kill anyone with a bottle stupid. they just dont want immature people like you apparently are throwing bottles and trash at people. and no smart person would be very close if they were going to shoot someone they would be somewhere where they could get away easily. smart
one.

oh yeah what do you want pictures of ?
bush being anywhere in the open not surrounded by people who have signed their souls over to the republican national convention for the fact they support bush

oh yes, no one is going to kill anyone with a bottle, glass bottles arnt dangerous at all, nope.

how can we call this a society when people like JFk and Lincoln are shot, but people like Bush arent?

Assassinating Bush would be a very, very stupid idea. I'd think that most people that hate Bush hate Cheney just as much, if not more.

It is because americans on the whole are bad people and dishonorable and unworthy of good government.

bush being anywhere in the open not surrounded by people who have signed their souls over to the republican national convention for the fact they support bush

oh yes, no one is going to kill anyone with a bottle, glass bottles arnt dangerous at all, nope.


i never said bottles werent dangerous did i? but no one is going to get close enough even getting past the crowds would not get to him the secret service would stop this person. and i see that you didnt deny the immature comment or that any smart person would shoot him from a distance to make it easier to get away.

It is because americans on the whole are bad people and dishonorable and unworthy of good government.



Where are you from?

And becuase the VP can't be President...he'd die of a heart attack on Day Two.

He's president because he fairly won this thing called an "election" I know it's hard to pronounce. Deal with it, he got the popular vote, he won fair and square. Stop complaining!

He's president because he fairly won this thing called an "election" I know it's hard to pronounce.
erection?


nope....im gonna have to work at this "election" thing

i never said bottles werent dangerous did i? but no one is going to get close enough even getting past the crowds would not get to him the secret service would stop this person. and i see that you didnt deny the immature comment or that any smart person would shoot him from a distance to make it easier to get away.
and ok no ones gonna kill anyone with a bottle stupid.

shut the fuck up you annoying neocon dipshit

shut the fuck up you annoying neocon dipshit


aww did the little leftist run of things to disprove my reasoning with?
im sorry..........not!
see i guess i win.
and please i know you can find different words than profanity.

shut the fuck up you annoying neocon dipshit
Shut the fuck up you annoying flamebaiting spammer.

must....resist...urge......to ....question....intelligence.... of ....posters.......


because if he were killed DICK CHENEY would be president

any other questions?

Your copy of the Constitution isn't going to help you. You are crossing over a serious line (at least those folks in dark sun glasses take it seriously). I had a student write an essay on a standardized test about Clinton being killed and the Secret Service paid a visit to his home, interviewed all his friends, family and teachers.

And that was before the Patriot Act.

Honestly, you should delete this thread.
if im not American and dont live i America i can still say kill Bush...

maybe not wise, but i can say it

erection?


nope....im gonna have to work at this "election" thing
Okay, you continue working on pronouncing it, and I would like to see everyone hold hands and shut the fuck up about how horrible the president is. Oh el oh el he can't say nuclear properly. Oh no he's going to instate the draft! You're all gonna die!

because hes smart enough to know everyone hates him and would kill him first chance they get. he surrounds himself with only peopel that agree with him and doesnt ride in open vehicles

He walked a couple blocks at the inaugural parade.

Oh el oh el he can't say nuclear properly.
oh i can pronounce that


do i get a prize?

if im not American and dont live i America i can still say kill Bush...

maybe not wise, but i can say it


i know that but i think he meant the 1234 guy but we dont know where hes from

i know that but i think he meant the 1234 guy but we dont know where hes from
i love not being an american...

i love not being an american...


i think wed all like to try that sometimes just to see what its like to not be hated by most of the rest of the world for som stupid reasons not that they all are but some are

If by "takes out a copy of the constitution" you mean freedom of speech then you're wrong. mainly cause lets see thats slander and a couple of other things and those are not protected under the ammendment so ha! maybe you should research a little more before you talk.

Yeah I knew someone would catch that :)

i think wed all like to try that sometimes just to see what its like to not be hated by most of the rest of the world for som stupid reasons not that they all are but some are
i wouldnt say having a dictatorial, hypocritical and dangerous foreign policy is a stupid reason to hate someone, but thats your call

;)

Yeah I knew someone would catch that :)
:)

i wouldnt say having a dictatorial, hypocritical and dangerous foreign policy is a stupid reason to hate someone, but thats your call


i dont think its dictatorial but no one can be un hypocritical all the time sorry but i didnt say they were all bad reasons just some of them

... but i didnt say they were all bad reasons just some of them

cant say fairer than that

It is because americans on the whole are bad people and dishonorable and unworthy of good government.

Very bad people, with plenty of means and bored enough to use them... We're Eeevilllll.... Remember that. :mp5:

Okay, you continue working on pronouncing it, and I would like to see everyone hold hands and shut the fuck up about how horrible the president is. Oh el oh el he can't say nuclear properly. Oh no he's going to instate the draft! You're all gonna die!

The guy is a complete dumbass! Somewhere along the line how smart a guy is stopped mattering and how well he shook his hand and how bright his eyes were started to matter.

So why dont YOU go back to watching nascar drinking some beer, tracking dirt and dog shit into your house, go to church pray for three hours, two of the three for Bush. No seriously, people pray for that shmuck!

He's president because he fairly won this thing called an "election" I know it's hard to pronounce. Deal with it, he got the popular vote, he won fair and square. Stop complaining!

Is he legally entitled to 8 more years because the past four belonged to Al Gore?

Is he legally entitled to 8 more years because the past four belonged to Al Gore?


how did the last four belong to al gore?
and its only four more years anyway

Assassinating Bush would be a very, very stupid idea. I'd think that most people that hate Bush hate Cheney just as much, if not more.

As much as I hate Cheney, he has an IQ higher than 91. I think its considerably higher. He may be just as bad, but at least hes not a dumbass.

Is he legally entitled to 8 more years because the past four belonged to Al Gore?
Someone better tell Al Gore that, so he can retract his concession...

As much as I hate Cheney, he has an IQ higher than 91. I think its considerably higher. He may be just as bad, but at least hes not a dumbass.
How do you know anyone's IQ? Carter is the only President to have released his IQ.

how did the last four belong to al gore?
and its only four more years anyway

Its called an election! He won the majority popular no argument. Bush rigged Florida! He just barely won! Gore won the election! End of story, or is it?

Someone better tell Al Gore that, so he can retract his concession...


why because peoples race wasnt on the ballot and the illegal aliens didnt get to vote?

Its called an election! He won the majority popular no argument. Bush rigged Florida! He just barely won! Gore won the election! End of story, or is it?

how did gore win again?
cause every time they did a recount lost votes even when the recount was done by his own party who i might add designed the ballot everyone was complainin about

Its called an election! He won the majority popular no argument. Bush rigged Florida! He just barely won! Gore won the election! End of story, or is it?
Gore rigged California! Bush should have won! Nonsensical ramblings utterly ungrounded in fact! I'm a dumbass!

He had actual citizens backing him thats how

Gore rigged California! Bush should have won! Nonsensical ramblings utterly ungrounded in fact! I'm a dumbass!


yea except that california is historically won by the democrats

yea except that california is historically won by the democrats
And now, Florida is historically won by Republicans.

And now, Florida is historically won by Republicans.


the past one or two elections yes
not as long as california

Heh, Gore as president during 9/11? We would have had to send an appology to Bin-Laden for the loss of his pilots.
And by now we would be Europe2. Gore is even more inept and stupid than Bush.

Anyway, of the many reasons Bush has yet to be assassinated is the fact that the Soviet Union isnt around anymore, the Mafia has been losing power, and he isnt Catholic.
As for surrounding himself with people who agree with him...its something most people do. But, perhaps he should give Kerry a cabinet position :P

the past one or two elections yes
not as long as california
Doh, looks like the past three out of four:
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/maps9296.html

who here hates bush??
lets take a poll

When i say if you "hate" me for being American, i hate you back and you can go F#$% yourselves, odds are very strong you and your country need us more than we need you...er wait, the US doesn't need any one country economically, especially in Europe, considering the US consumer drives the world economy....and opil derives from a great deal of different countries...and oh yeah, the vanguard of research into alternative clean fuels is...the big, bad US.

As far as anyone harming our president, i suggest you don't. Cheney would lay waste to any country who sponsored, directly or indirectly, whoever sponsored that. think a little bit,,,would you want those overproductive rednecks with guns led by Cheney after your ass? You'd lose. Quickly.

As far as any reasonable people out there, hey, he has 4 years, i can guarantee a moderate wins the next election (by American standards, anyway)

Bush is neccessary.

Without him, Americans will never learn their folly.

Doh, looks like the past three out of four:
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/maps9296.html


ok sorry bout the couple but still not as long california right?

How can we call this a society when people like JFk and Lincoln are shot, but people like Bush arent? I mean what is wrong with this world? The man who shot Bobby Kennedy, who ran against Nixon before Nixon was even elected, was shot by an angry palestinian, why was he angry? He pledged to give money to Israel. What has Bush done? Again, why wasnt he assassinated, he has four years.

Watches as a black Mercedes pulls in front of house, starts to laugh, takes out copy of Constitution.
I believe Americans have become smart enough to know that assassination doesn't work. The American Presidency is like a flat worm, you cut off the head and another grows in its place. In the current situation the next head would be Cheney and that is one ugly vicious bull dog pug head.

The last thing the world needs is Cheney in the number one spot with a Republican Congress and the "Moral Imperative" to carry out every haired brained scheme laid out by the President.

You see in America we have term limits which means Bush can never run again. In other words he hits the ground as a future lame duck with the lowest approval rating of any 2nd term president in history. Every day that passes, Bush gets a little lamer. If he decides that the first thing he goes for is the Social Security reform and it fails, then his Presidency will be a four year long hobbled waddle.

ok sorry bout the couple but still not as long california right?
And how is that relevant?

I believe Americans have become smart enough to know that assassination doesn't work. The American Presidency is like a flat worm, you cut off the head and another grows in its place. In the current situation the next head would be Cheney and that is one ugly vicious bull dog pug head.

The last thing the world needs is Cheney in the number one spot with a Republican Congress and the "Moral Imperative" to carry out every haired brained scheme laid out by the President.

You see in America we have term limits which means Bush can never run again. In other words he hits the ground as a future lame duck with the lowest approval rating of any 2nd term president in history. Every day that passes, Bush gets a little lamer. If he decides that the first thing he goes for is the Social Security reform and it fails, then his Presidency will be a four year long hobbled waddle.



yea but lets see he had the highest popular vote count of any president right? and hows it gonna be a hobble because he tried to keep social security goin

And how is that relevant?


i dont remember if it was you or someone else but it was said gore rigged california

On another note, I wish people would just drop this subject. Bush is here for four more years, and then you will never hear from him again, unless he gets into Congress, in which case he will have one of two hundred or however many representatives there are votes. Big whup.
So hold on for the next few years, and everything will be happy, M'kay?

yea but lets see he had the highest popular vote count of any president right?

And the most votes against than any President in history. In fact more people voted against Bush than voted for any former President.

On the Social Security, if he really wanted to keep it going all he would have to do is raise the payroll contribution 1% and it's good for the next 75 years. His plan so far only takes contributions away from the fund making it go belly up faster than the 2042 projected date.

On another note, I wish people would just drop this subject. Bush is here for four more years, and then you will never hear from him again, unless he gets into Congress, in which case he will have one of two hundred or however many representatives there are votes. Big whup.
So hold on for the next few years, and everything will be happy, M'kay?


yea but only if your candidate who will probably be hillary clinton(if youre a democrat) gets elected

And the most votes against than any President in history. In fact more people voted against Bush than voted for any former President.


ok so voter turnout was higher is that not a good thing

yea but only if your candidate who will probably be hillary clinton(if youre a democrat) gets elected
Hillary would be even worse than Bush.
Anyway, I doubt were going to have a female president any time soon, were on a role with the guys :P

And the most votes against than any President in history. In fact more people voted against Bush than voted for any former President.

On the Social Security, if he really wanted to keep it going all he would have to do is raise the payroll contribution 1% and it's good for the next 75 years. His plan so far only takes contributions away from the fund making it go belly up faster than the 2042 projected date.

ok but that would just piss ppl off like the tax cuts
but what ppl didnt say was that the ppl who got higher tax cuts were the richer ones because they were the ones who paid more taxes and the truth of it is that aroun the top 6 or so % percent pay more of the taxes than any other demographic

ok so voter turnout was higher is that not a good thing


Great it should be even higher, but the country is divided and those numbers are not lost on Congress especially when they have to face AARP. The SSI plan is designed to appeal to 20 to 30 year olds, but AARP always votes in a solid block. 20 some things usually don’t vote in massive turnout.

Hillary would be even worse than Bush.
Anyway, I doubt were going to have a female president any time soon, were on a role with the guys :P


yea hbut who else is there to run for the democrats right now?

ok but that would just piss ppl off like the tax cuts
but what ppl didnt say was that the ppl who got higher tax cuts were the richer ones because they were the ones who paid more taxes and the truth of it is that aroun the top 6 or so % percent pay more of the taxes than any other demographic

The income tax cuts have not much to do with SSI, unless of course the Congress raids the SSI fund again to try and make up some of the difference like in the age of Reagan.

The income tax cuts have not much to do with SSI, unless of course the Congress raids the SSI fund again to try and make up some of the difference like in the age of Reagan.


i know that i was just tryin to make a kind of comparison
i know its kind of bad but it sorta works

ok sorry bout the couple but still not as long california right?
More like 5 out of the last 6. Reagan got it twice, and I'm unsure about 1976 (too lazy to check.) and it went Nixon twice IIRC.

As for California, it was 4 of the last 7 for dems. (Reagan got it twice and Bush 41 got California in 1988). I believe Nixon got it twice also.
EDIT: Ford got it once and Nixon got it twice so that is 4 of the last 8 for Dems (

More like 5 out of the last 6. Reagan got it twice, and I'm unsure about 1976 (too lazy to check.) and it went Nixon twice IIRC.

As for California, it was 3 of the last 6 for dems. (Reagan got it twice and Bush 41 got California in 1988). I believe Nixon got it twice also.


thanks for correctin me i guess i jumped a little there
but i think reagan possibly gained some advantage cause he was from california was he not?

to answer the title, cause Cheney is worse!

Sorry, but you're obviously an idiot. And you're hardly right-wing if you believe that the thought police and big government are a good idea.
Please, educate yourself on your own party and ideology before posting here.


And don't use the annoying gun smileys. 'Tis the true sign of the NS n00b.

The gun was fitting in this case though, eh?

And if you read my post carefully, it never says if I'm right wing or left wing. It never says what party I am at all.

And so what makes me "obviously an idiot?"

"Why isnt Bush....gone."

You have been reported to the thought police, however they have not elected to pick you up yet, since we know you are part of an Al Quida sleeper cell. Just ignore the several men in black trenchcoats and black fedoras who will seemingly appear from nowhere when you least expect it. :cool:

Why isnt Bush....gone.

Because you touch yourself at night.

flawless use of the family guy qoute, nothing tops family guy.

but as for why bush is still in office... its because the people who dont like bush are the kind of people who dont usaully carry guns and shoot people very often. see, the number of violent gun totin' supporters of bush is a bit higher then the number of violent gun totin' lefties who want him dead. not to sterotype that is, just the number of them sorta favor bush's side.

p.s. please dont flame too bad... im not an asshole, just an idiot.

"Why isnt Bush....gone."

You have been reported to the thought police, however they have not elected to pick you up yet, since we know you are part of an Al Quida sleeper cell. Just ignore the several men in black trenchcoats and black fedoras who will seemingly appear from nowhere when you least expect it. :cool:


What?

flawless use of the family guy qoute, nothing tops family guy.

but as for why bush is still in office... its because the people who dont like bush are the kind of people who dont usaully carry guns and shoot people very often. see, the number of violent gun totin' supporters of bush is a bit higher then the number of violent gun totin' lefties who want him dead. not to sterotype that is, just the number of them sorta favor bush's side.

p.s. please dont flame too bad... im not an asshole, just an idiot.


no offense but not so flawless use of a completely wrong stereotype

52% of voting america, and thats no guarantee they were voting for him as for his propaganda campaign
okay, this may be VOTING america, but go back, some of those people voting are DEAD or MADE UP :gundge:

ok but that would just piss ppl off like the tax cuts
but what ppl didnt say was that the ppl who got higher tax cuts were the richer ones because they were the ones who paid more taxes and the truth of it is that aroun the top 6 or so % percent pay more of the taxes than any other demographic

You want to guess why? HMM?!?

Because even if you make a million dollars a year, and the government takes a 50% income tax, you're still a fucking rich person.

If you take 50% income tx from my family, we die. Quickly. But painfully.

Rich people don't need tax cuts! They're fucking rich!

Laenis won the thread with post #4

It's true. Bush's death is overdue, according to Tecumseh's curse.
For those who don't know, Tecumseh's curse was set by Tecumseh, a native american who tried to organize an alliance of tribes to keep back US expansion. He failed, and was killed by William Henry Harrison. According to legend, as he died he laid a curse on the United States that every president elected in a year ending with 0 would suffer a terrible malady. From 1840 onwards, starting with Harrison himself, every president elected in a year ending with 0 died in office. Furthermore, these were the only presidents to die in office. The curse seems to have stopped with Regan though. My guess is that Tecumsh decided it was more of a curse to let him live. Unfortunately, the same seems to apply to Bush.

If you believe in curses, well, this one is not necessarily over yet. Regean technically died and was revived. Some say he broke it by living, some say it's fulfilled because indeed died, if only for a minute. For instance, on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, she died for a short time from drowning and was revived by mouth to mouth. A new slayer was called upon her death. I realize that was a TV show, but if you believe in this curse, it could go either way. We'll just have to see.

You want to guess why? HMM?!?

Because even if you make a million dollars a year, and the government takes a 50% income tax, you're still a fucking rich person.

If you take 50% income tx from my family, we die. Quickly. But painfully.

Rich people don't need tax cuts! They're fucking rich!


ok um the tax cuts were proportional to your income smart one.
and so youre sayin that for all the government should try to be fair to "minorities" they shouldnt be fair in their tax cuts and only give tax cuts to the "less fortunate". and your obviously not dead or dying because you have internet so stop complaining about something that is obviously not hurting you that bad cause if it was and you were smart or desperate you wouldnt bepaying for the interent

ok um the tax cuts were proportional to your income smart one.

Buddy, blow me.

An Iraqi with no arms can type more coherently than you!

Judging by your quoted post in my prvious post, you are trying to make it look as though we should cut taxes for the rich because they are being taxed to heavily! OMFG top 6% gets hghest taxes.

They also get the highest income. They require tax increases. Massive tax increases. Like 90%.

It makes my day when I see a kerry bumper sticker, mainly so I can pull up next to the car, role down my window and scream, "hahahahahahaahaha LOSER." So as I pass them they can see my Bush/Cheney 04 sticker. Oh, and on the shooting idea, it just makes me wonder if the liberals who love peace, if they are really peaceful. Also Kennedy had a Death wish so he knew his plans wouldn't have gotten through congress unless he forced them, so he acctually had himself killed. :p . There is something that will make the liberals :headbang: So kerry supporters :upyours: I voted for BUSH and he WON.

If Bush does die, my thoughts are that Cheney will either be killed also, will die soon after, will be impeached and removed, or will resign. I think if it happens, Cheney won't even have time to pick a new VP, and the U.S. will have its first ever Speaker of the House as President.

Because Americans don't remember how to riot. A good riot at the inauguration could have killed him, if properly planned...

"Why isnt Bush....gone."

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statemapredbluelarge.png

That's why.

Now of course the interesting thing here is that the states with the highest population density averaged in favor of Kerry so this map is slightly inaccurate.

The gun was fitting in this case though, eh?
Eh, no. Never acceptable.

And if you read my post carefully, it never says if I'm right wing or left wing. It never says what party I am at all.
You're so far right wing, that even you don't know where the hell you stand anymore.

And so what makes me "obviously an idiot?"
"I only wish that we could execute people for even THINKING things anti-government. "

This qualifies you alone as either an idiot or a nutbag. Not sure which yet as you haven't posted much.

Security has been tight lately. Not just from Bush, but, as said, from every president SINCE Kennedy.

By the way, Lincoln was not exactly left wing. He was a Republican, after all.

I only wish that we could execute people for even THINKING things anti-government.

You may think all right-wingers are rednecks with guns. Well, you'll be sorry when you're the one WITHOUT the gun.

:sniper:

Lincoln was left-wing for his day. Abolition was a left-wing ideal, and the Republicans of that age were a left-wing party. They became right-wing after William McKinely drew on the support of wealthy manufacturers and so made the Republicans the party of business.
As for the rest of your post, such as executing people who disagree with the government, may God in His eternal wisdom have mercy on your soul.

"Why isnt Bush....gone."

You have been reported to the thought police, however they have not elected to pick you up yet, since we know you are part of an Al Quida sleeper cell. Just ignore the several men in black trenchcoats and black fedoras who will seemingly appear from nowhere when you least expect it. :cool:


Thought police? What would they have to bust him for???

Buddy, blow me.

An Iraqi with no arms can type more coherently than you!

Judging by your quoted post in my prvious post, you are trying to make it look as though we should cut taxes for the rich because they are being taxed to heavily! OMFG top 6% gets hghest taxes.

They also get the highest income. They require tax increases. Massive tax increases. Like 90%.
sorry but i wont blow you as much as you apparently want me too.
so your plan is make the rich poor so everyones nice and equal right?
that sounds a little communistic to me . if im wrong about your plan correct me please and i never said they were being taxed too heavily read before answering. and yes they do pay most of the taxes and tax cuts are generally proportional to your income

sorry but i wont blow you as much as you apparently want me too.
so your plan is make the rich poor so everyones nice and equal right?
that sounds a little communistic to me . if im wrong about your plan correct me please

COMMIES!!!! COMMIES!!!! YEEEEAGH!
:mp5:

It's true. Bush's death is overdue, according to Tecumseh's curse.
For those who don't know, Tecumseh's curse was set by Tecumseh, a native american who tried to organize an alliance of tribes to keep back US expansion. He failed, and was killed by William Henry Harrison. According to legend, as he died he laid a curse on the United States that every president elected in a year ending with 0 would suffer a terrible malady. From 1840 onwards, starting with Harrison himself, every president elected in a year ending with 0 died in office. Furthermore, these were the only presidents to die in office. The curse seems to have stopped with Regan though. My guess is that Tecumsh decided it was more of a curse to let him live. Unfortunately, the same seems to apply to Bush.

But Bush and Reagan both had close calls, Reagan was shot and Shrub has to have the SS break his bretzles into more managable pieces before he's allowed to eat them.

sorry but i wont blow you as much as you apparently want me too.
so your plan is make the rich poor so everyones nice and equal right?
that sounds a little communistic to me . if im wrong about your plan correct me please

Oh my god. How do you even breath on your own?

Sorry. Had to get that out of my system.

My plan is not to make the rich poor. it is to substantially increase their taxes. 90% tax on a millionaire hurts him not. Equality is impossible. But i strive to get a bit clsoer to that.

Instead of my family and the rest of the middle class (the fuckin' minority as you call us) paying the brunt of taxes, the multi-billionaires should pay more.

Pure and simple.

And i am Communistic.

If Bush does die, my thoughts are that Cheney will either be killed also, will die soon after, will be impeached and removed, or will resign. I think if it happens, Cheney won't even have time to pick a new VP, and the U.S. will have its first ever Speaker of the House as President.

You want DENNIS HASTERT to be President of the United States? :eek:

You're so far right wing, that even you don't know where the hell you stand anymore.


You're correct, but the post never said that.


This qualifies you alone as either an idiot or a nutbag. Not sure which yet as you haven't posted much.

Chill out ok? That was hyperbole.

Oh my god. How do you even breath on your own?

Sorry. Had to get that out of my system.

My plan is not to make the rich poor. it is to substantially increase their taxes. 90% tax on a millionaire hurts him not. Equality is impossible. But i strive to get a bit clsoer to that.

Instead of my family and the rest of the middle class (the fuckin' minority as you call us) paying the brunt of taxes, the multi-billionaires should pay more.

Pure and simple.

And i am Communistic.

im pretty sure i breath the way everyone else does.
by the way im part of the f*in middle class.
and they are not paying the brunt of the taxes. taxes work like this ther more you make the more you pay right. and a 90% increase on anyones taxes would make them poor.the multi-billionaires do pay a proportionate amount to their income. now communism is making ppl equal part of it is anyway right? so that doesnt make any sense if you want to make the rich ppl pay more than the poorer ppl so they wouldnt be equal unless you mean the amount of money they have in their pockets is equal

And i am Communistic.

Duh!

Well I hate to break it to all of yall but what exactly has Bush done that everybody is so upset? Ok so he is in the war with Iraq, but that is like cleaning your room. Your mom get onto your for days and weeks and it just gets dirtier, sooner or later you have to clean it, it may not be pretty but its what needs to be done, and thats that. And besides what are you all complaining about Iraq for, because according to polls that is the main reason people dont like Bush. What is it to yall? I mean the TROOPS. the ones over there fighting and putting their lives on the life think they are doing the right thing and they need to be over there...so HOOHA

Yes about Lincoln, but my major point was that they didn't have those terms back in the good old days. And besides, he wasn't an abolitionist until the middle of the Civil War.

And as for this:

God in His eternal wisdom have mercy on your soul.

I know where I am with God. I am fine with God. And God's fine with me. Sure I have my flaws, we all do, but I'm trying, very very hard.

Well I hate to break it to all of yall but what exactly has Bush done that everybody is so upset? Ok so he is in the war with Iraq, but that is like cleaning your room. Your mom get onto your for days and weeks and it just gets dirtier, sooner or later you have to clean it, it may not be pretty but its what needs to be done, and thats that. And besides what are you all complaining about Iraq for, because according to polls that is the main reason people dont like Bush. What is it to yall? I mean the TROOPS. the ones over there fighting and putting their lives on the life think they are doing the right thing and they need to be over there...so HOOHA


i agree with you and if some troops complain then why the crap did they join in the first place?

Well I hate to break it to all of yall but what exactly has Bush done that everybody is so upset? Ok so he is in the war with Iraq, but that is like cleaning your room. Your mom get onto your for days and weeks and it just gets dirtier, sooner or later you have to clean it, it may not be pretty but its what needs to be done, and thats that. And besides what are you all complaining about Iraq for, because according to polls that is the main reason people dont like Bush. What is it to yall? I mean the TROOPS. the ones over there fighting and putting their lives on the life think they are doing the right thing and they need to be over there...so HOOHA

Amen.

im pretty sure i breath the way everyone else does.
by the way im part of the f*in middle class.
and they are not paying the brunt of the taxes. taxes work like this ther more you make the more you pay right. and a 90% increase on anyones taxes would make them poor.the multi-billionaires do pay a proportionate amount to their income. now communism is making ppl equal part of it is anyway right? so that doesnt make any sense if you want to make the rich ppl pay more than the poorer ppl so they wouldnt be equal unless you mean the amount of money they have in their pockets is equal

We are not paying the brunt of taxes? I guess the 3 million millionaires currently pay more taxes than the 289 million people that are not in that top bracket. And no, a 90% income tx rate for a millionaire will not make him poor.

Unless of course, you, being a member of us middle class people, consider 100,000+ a year poor. Cuz I sure as hell do. Billionaires do not pay as much as they should.

As for you definition of Communism, well, it amuses me. Communism is a creation of a classless society. Rich people should pay more than porrer people becuase they HAVE MORE MONEY. Very simple. My family has less. Thus we should pay much less in proportion than a billionaire.

Hundreds of millions of Americans scrape by by week to week checks while some fatass rich CEO sits at his giant mansion that he built from one days' worth of profit and has his private chefs cook him a meal before he takes his limousine to his private airport and flies his private jet to a private island where he relaxes for a month.

You're correct, but the post never said that.
Captain Obvious to the rescue! It said enough for me to easily deduce that from a few sentences.


Chill out ok? That was hyperbole.
Trust me. I'm chilled out. I'm a Libertarian and it's Friday night, know what I mean?
Glad to hear you were joking there. Read a few more posts and you'll find a few assholes who say these types of things wholeheartedly... no joke.

You want DENNIS HASTERT to be President of the United States? :eek:

Never said I wanted. However, that's probably what would happen. Cheney is hated by basically everyone.

Well I hate to break it to all of yall but what exactly has Bush done that everybody is so upset? Ok so he is in the war with Iraq, but that is like cleaning your room.
Let's not start on the Patriot Act, really. I'm upset with Bush for spending my tax dollars to "save" some people I don't give a shit about. At least not enough to dump our tax dollars into "saving" them. It's really none of our business. It's not Uncle SuperSam.
Also, his Jesusfreak attitude scares me.

I'd like to shake his hand for lowering taxes (a little, but it's a start) and privatizing social security.

Well I hate to break it to all of yall but what exactly has Bush done that everybody is so upset? Ok so he is in the war with Iraq, but that is like cleaning your room. Your mom get onto your for days and weeks and it just gets dirtier, sooner or later you have to clean it, it may not be pretty but its what needs to be done, and thats that. And besides what are you all complaining about Iraq for, because according to polls that is the main reason people dont like Bush. What is it to yall? I mean the TROOPS. the ones over there fighting and putting their lives on the life think they are doing the right thing and they need to be over there...so HOOHA

Thanks for converting Bush's entire campaign into a tiny paragraph perfect for brainwashing.

What has Bushy done? Oh nothing. Not like he went to war for no reason, commited a felony by lieing to Congress, destroyed America's credibility, fucked up our economy, created false projections...What else?

And comparing teh War in Iraq to cleaning your room. My god, what a stroke of fuckin' genius. Sooner or later we have to clean Iraq, because America is the fucking World Police. Right? Good.

And I hate this war because we were lied to and I care about the TROOPS becuase tehya re in a DEATHTRAP. And how dare you generalize like that? How dare you say that every troop is for this damn war? You think troops signed up knowing we were going to a war in fuckin' Iraq?

Knowing that they could come home sealed shut in an aluminnum coffin?

Noone thought that Bush would send them to hell. Now he did.

Captain Obvious to the rescue! It said enough for me to easily deduce that from a few sentences.


I know it was obvious and quite easy to glean from it. Actually, I think I have views incredibly different from everyone else in the world.


Trust me. I'm chilled out. I'm a Libertarian and it's Friday night, know what I mean?
Glad to hear you were joking there. Read a few more posts and you'll find a few assholes who say these types of things wholeheartedly... no joke.

Good to hear that too. If I knew you in real life, we could have a few drinks and laugh over this.

We are not paying the brunt of taxes? I guess the 3 million millionaires currently pay more taxes than the 289 million people that are not in that top bracket. And no, a 90% income tx rate for a millionaire will not make him poor.

Unless of course, you, being a member of us middle class people, consider 100,000+ a year poor. Cuz I sure as hell do. Billionaires do not pay as much as they should.

As for you definition of Communism, well, it amuses me. Communism is a creation of a classless society. Rich people should pay more than porrer people becuase they HAVE MORE MONEY. Very simple. My family has less. Thus we should pay much less in proportion than a billionaire.

Hundreds of millions of Americans scrape by by week to week checks while some fatass rich CEO sits at his giant mansion that he built from one days' worth of profit and has his private chefs cook him a meal before he takes his limousine to his private airport and flies his private jet to a private island where he relaxes for a month.


how do you know how a rich person lives through the media? the media is a bunch of crap alot of the time. and my family "scrapes by by week to week checks"ok i know communism is a classless society which means everyone is equal in every way an i used one form of possible equality. and a 90% tax increase might not immediately make them drop down to the middle class level but it would eventually add it up. you know why these ppl are ceos because they worked now granted some of them inherited these things but somewhere along the line someone had to work for it. now dont get upset just cause either someone somewhere in your family didnt work that hard or maybe they just werent as lucky. i mean no offense but thats just the way it is, and how are you gonna change it, unless you become a big politician or a rich person you wont be able too. and i know it sux but life isnt always fair.

we could have a few drinks and laugh over this.
Cheers!
*clink*

Thanks for converting Bush's entire campaign into a tiny paragraph perfect for brainwashing.

What has Bushy done? Oh nothing. Not like he went to war for no reason, commited a felony by lieing to Congress, destroyed America's credibility, fucked up our economy, created false projections...What else?

And comparing teh War in Iraq to cleaning your room. My god, what a stroke of fuckin' genius. Sooner or later we have to clean Iraq, because America is the fucking World Police. Right? Good.

And I hate this war because we were lied to and I care about the TROOPS becuase tehya re in a DEATHTRAP. And how dare you generalize like that? How dare you say that every troop is for this damn war? You think troops signed up knowing we were going to a war in fuckin' Iraq?

Knowing that they could come home sealed shut in an aluminnum coffin?

Noone thought that Bush would send them to hell. Now he did.


you say bush lied to congress about the weapons?
he had evidence brought to him by the government agencies that shoed these weapons. and the un inspections were a bunch of crap cause they waited till the ppl let them in they werent really surprise inspections. and every troop isnt for iraq but they should have signed up to protect their country not to sit around an be able to say i was in the army so it looks good. thats their fault if they dont like it they obviously dont care about their country.

how do you know how a rich person lives through the media? the media is a bunch of crap alot of the time. and my family "scrapes by by week to week checks"ok i know communism is a classless society which means everyone is equal in every way an i used one form of possible equality. and a 90% tax increase might not immediately make them drop down to the middle class level but it would eventually add it up. you know why these ppl are ceos because they worked now granted some of them inherited these things but somewhere along the line someone had to work for it. now dont get upset just cause either someone somewhere in your family didnt work that hard or maybe they just werent as lucky. i mean no offense but thats just the way it is, and how are you gonna change it, unless you become a big politician or a rich person you wont be able too. and i know it sux but life isnt always fair.

The first sentence you wrote. And the second. Incoherent blather. Learn to spell.

Yes, 100,000+ a year would eventually make you very poor. Hell you might lose a few grand in stocks that you've been playing for years, eh?

Yes, someone had to work for it. But that does not give you the right to be a taxfree German Junker. Or tax less than the people.

Life isn't fair, correct. But if you resign yourself to it then you deserve to be trampled by it.

And hell, what are you, living in pre-revolution France? You're like a "middle class" person that advocates less taxes for the people above you!

What are you, isnane?

Goddamnit I have no time for this. Got to go.

Have fun.

you say bush lied to congress about the weapons?
he had evidence brought to him by the government agencies that shoed these weapons. and the un inspections were a bunch of crap cause they waited till the ppl let them in they werent really surprise inspections. and every troop isnt for iraq but they should have signed up to protect their country not to sit around an be able to say i was in the army so it looks good. thats their fault if they dont like it they obviously dont care about their country.

He lied. he used what is called "selective information". He takes what he wants.

Watch the interviews with CIA directors, see how he lied his ass off.

And if that is true, why the fuck did Bush give Tenet a medal? For faulty fuckin' info? No. Tenet is a croney.

As for your ragging on the UN...

Un is awesome. Their inspections are well done. And if American network if Spy Satellites is so shitty that they cannot see Iraqui's moving ICBM's and TONS of URANIUM from palce to palce...then I am ashamed of this country. Again.

And troops did sign up to protect this country. Iraq is not protecting this country.

The first sentence you wrote. And the second. Incoherent blather. Learn to spell.

Yes, 100,000+ a year would eventually make you very poor. Hell you might lose a few grand in stocks that you've been playing for years, eh?

Yes, someone had to work for it. But that does not give you the right to be a taxfree German Junker. Or tax less than the people.

Life isn't fair, correct. But if you resign yourself to it then you deserve to be trampled by it.

And hell, what are you, living in pre-revolution France? You're like a "middle class" person that advocates less taxes for the people above you!

What are you, isnane?

Goddamnit I have no time for this. Got to go.

Have fun.

i never said they should pay less taxes i was pointing out you were wrong about how they should pay more. and what does this mean "But that does not give you the right to be a taxfree German Junker. Or tax less than the people" especially the second sentence.

Ok well here goes
Let's not start on the Patriot Act, really. I'm upset with Bush for spending my tax dollars to "save" some people I don't give a shit about. At least not enough to dump our tax dollars into "saving" them. It's really none of our business. It's not Uncle SuperSam.
Also, his Jesusfreak attitude scares me.

Well thats the wrong attitude, what if your parents didnt give a shit about you and dumped you into a garbage back while you were a kid? We are free so why shouldnt everyone else, we are no better then they are, we have only had better oportunites, because basically thats what america is all about. What if nobody gave a shit about anybody else, and we didnt get involved in WWII well my friend this world could be alot worse off

What about when Bush said that Saddam was directly connected with the 9/11 terrorist attacks as his reason for invading Iraq? And do you wonder why so many of Bush's cabinet members have/are resigning? Maybe because they don't want to be grouped with a liar.

He lied. he used what is called "selective information". He takes what he wants.

Agreed

And troops did sign up to protect this country. Iraq is not protecting this country.
That part makes no fuckin sense. Troops signed up to protect the country eh? guess they signed up for sexual abuse and bondage too. As for Iraq not protecting this country?... All I can deduce from that is if they arent protecting you, go rip their society apart? what about if they're neutral and wanna be left the fuck along? I dont remember them doing anything to the us, oh, beside one of the iraqis almost "killing George W's father"

What about when Bush said that Saddam was directly connected with the 9/11 terrorist attacks as his reason for invading Iraq? And do you wonder why so many of Bush's cabinet members have/are resigning? Maybe because they don't want to be grouped with a liar.

Perhaps they are resigning because so many people give him so much shit for nothing. He is only doing what has needed to be done for a long time and that is take care of a problem that needed to be gone before it could fester and cause us problems, and thats why they are quiting because they are afraid to stand up FOR WHAT IS RIGHT

What about when Bush said that Saddam was directly connected with the 9/11 terrorist attacks as his reason for invading Iraq? And do you wonder why so many of Bush's cabinet members have/are resigning? Maybe because they don't want to be grouped with a liar.
Well they sure as hell didnt have a problem with it before. You act like they had an epiphany. Like their ass didnt know

Whoa, I just realized something.

In a few years, probably about like 40 for me, I'll be dead. (I'm going to die pretty young, by the way, like 59ish.)

Then it won't matter what anyone's done. Well to the rest of the world, but then again, they're going to die too. And their children will die. And their children will die.

We're all going to die, so why does anything matter?

(This is my other mood. I have two: Insane and suicidal)

He lied. he used what is called "selective information". He takes what he wants.

Watch the interviews with CIA directors, see how he lied his ass off.

And if that is true, why the fuck did Bush give Tenet a medal? For faulty fuckin' info? No. Tenet is a croney.

As for your ragging on the UN...

Un is awesome. Their inspections are well done. And if American network if Spy Satellites is so shitty that they cannot see Iraqui's moving ICBM's and TONS of URANIUM from palce to palce...then I am ashamed of this country. Again.

And troops did sign up to protect this country. Iraq is not protecting this country.


if you call making "surprise inspections" by making it obvious where youre goin next and waiting patiently outside until they let you in then yes their. and if bush told everything that could cause problems you idiot theres always info you can and cant tell. inspections are amazing. and tenet doesnt matter cause hes not there but youre right iraq isnt protecting this country its protecting the world from a tyrant. and ya know those trucks powell was talkin about well our satellites have pictures of them going across either the sudani or syrian border but either way it doesnt matter.

Well they sure as hell didnt have a problem with it before. You act like they had an epiphany. Like their ass didnt know


a president usually loses about that many cabinet members so its not abnormal stupid. he lost 2 or 3 less than clinton.

That part makes no fuckin sense. Troops signed up to protect the country eh? guess they signed up for sexual abuse and bondage too. As for Iraq not protecting this country?... All I can deduce from that is if they arent protecting you, go rip their society apart? what about if they're neutral and wanna be left the fuck along? I dont remember them doing anything to the us, oh, beside one of the iraqis almost "killing George W's father"

I believe what Ratheia is saying is that the war in Iraq is not necessary to protect the country, and therefore the troops are not doing what they signed up for.

I think.

Well thats the wrong attitude, what if your parents didnt give a shit about you and dumped you into a garbage back while you were a kid? We are free so why shouldnt everyone else, we are no better then they are, we have only had better oportunites, because basically thats what america is all about. What if nobody gave a shit about anybody else, and we didnt get involved in WWII well my friend this world could be alot worse off
Your metaphor was so poorly envisioned, I don't know where to begin.
Comparing a mother dumping her own baby in the dumps to my statement? Sensational emotionalism won't win me over anytime soon. I'm a realist and a sone cold skeptic.
I don't think it's necessarily the most optimistic or goody-doody. But I really don't care in the least about Iraq, Iran or the Middle East period. I believe America should fix it's own problems before it's arrogant enough to feel we're bringing the world the best option.

I believe what Ratheia is saying is that the war in Iraq is not necessary to protect the country, and therefore the troops are not doing what they signed up for.

I think.

Actually they are, they signed up to serve and protect...your opinion may not be that they are protecting, but they are serving their country

Your metaphor was so poorly envisioned, I don't know where to begin.
Comparing a mother dumping her own baby in the dumps to my statement? Sensational emotionalism won't win me over anytime soon. I'm a realist and a sone cold skeptic.
I don't think it's necessarily the most optimistic or goody-doody. But I really don't care in the least about Iraq, Iran or the Middle East period. I believe America should fix it's own problems before it's arrogant enough to feel we're bringing the world the best option.


whats the best option then?

Bush is one of the BEST and BOLDEST Presidents we've had in a Long time! He stood in front of the world and gave a dictator 72 hourse to leave is own country or we would shove our boot up his a$$! You couldnt do that and then back it up. but i dont agree w/ all that he has done. I believe he sohuld leave Iraq now that he has done his part...but he wont...he is forcing oour government on other people who arent used to it...Russia did it and they're economy nearly hit rock bottom and thats why they aren't a world power anymore. BUSH is a very good man but he has done both, good and bad in these past 4 years...lets look for more good this time round!

Your metaphor was so poorly envisioned, I don't know where to begin.
Comparing a mother dumping her own baby in the dumps to my statement? Sensational emotionalism won't win me over anytime soon. I'm a realist and a sone cold skeptic.
I don't think it's necessarily the most optimistic or goody-doody. But I really don't care in the least about Iraq, Iran or the Middle East period. I believe America should fix it's own problems before it's arrogant enough to feel we're bringing the world the best option.

Well whether my metaphor worked or not the point is that America has a duty and that duty is to ensure freedom, we have ours so they should have theirs, its just that simple. I dont think that Bush is wrong and I believe he is doing what needs to be done.

Bush is one of the BEST and BOLDEST Presidents we've had in a Long time! He stood in front of the world and gave a dictator 72 hourse to leave is own country or we would shove our boot up his a$$! You couldnt do that and then back it up. but i dont agree w/ all that he has done. I believe he sohuld leave Iraq now that he has done his part...but he wont...he is forcing oour government on other people who arent used to it...Russia did it and they're economy nearly hit rock bottom and thats why they aren't a world power anymore. BUSH is a very good man but he has done both, good and bad in these past 4 years...lets look for more good this time round!

Another metaphor...lol....we cant just leave iraq now, its like a house of cards, if you build one up and then rip out the foundation what happens? It all tumbles down. If we dont help them to get back on their feet then our soliders will have died in vain because the fact is we will have to do this all over again.

whats the best option then?
The best option is liberty. And good ole' capitalism.
Ironically, that's what we've given up most since 9/11, thanks to the Patriot Act and our parnoia-inducing media.
We have a little ways to go before our country can call itself "free".
Both social and economic liberties need to be fully instated before we can impose these values on other nations.
You don't see how I can view the situation in this way?

The best option is liberty. And good ole' capitalism.
Ironically, that's what we've given up most since 9/11, thanks to the Patriot Act and our parnoia-inducing media.
We have a little ways to go before our country can call itself "free".
Both social and economic liberties need to be fully instated before we can impose these values on other nations.
You don't see how I can view the situation in this way?


i see how you can view it that way i just dont agree with all of it.
i agree about the media
but i think the patriot act helps defend the conuntry ok mayb it could be relaxed a little.
but if we "fully instate" economic and social liberties then it would almost be anarchy wouldnt it?

its like a house of cards, if you build one up and then rip out the foundation what happens? It all tumbles down. If we dont help them to get back on their feet then our soliders will have died in vain because the fact is we will have to do this all over again.

This is very true, but you must admit that Bush is a very intelligent & barve man for doing what he has done.America is better with him and not Kerry. Kerry is going to hell b/c he would allows same sex marriages! im a a CHRISTIAN, I agree with the bible and it says that they will go to hell but with God's love. Gays are bad and america is better with bush than Kerry!

its like a house of cards, if you build one up and then rip out the foundation what happens? It all tumbles down. If we dont help them to get back on their feet then our soliders will have died in vain because the fact is we will have to do this all over again.

This is very true, but you must admit that Bush is a very intelligent & barve man for doing what he has done.America is better with him and not Kerry. Kerry is going to hell b/c he would allows same sex marriages! im a a CHRISTIAN, I agree with the bible and it says that they will go to hell but with God's love. Gays are bad and america is better with bush than Kerry!


thats just alot extremeist(sp?) there

The best option is liberty. And good ole' capitalism.
Ironically, that's what we've given up most since 9/11, thanks to the Patriot Act and our parnoia-inducing media.
We have a little ways to go before our country can call itself "free".
Both social and economic liberties need to be fully instated before we can impose these values on other nations.
You don't see how I can view the situation in this way?

I believe that America is giving up more and more freedom in exchange for government security and control. One of the most shocking examples of this recently was a family saying that they were against the privatization of Social Security because they did not want to have to invest the money themselves, and would instead rather the government do it for them. The grandmother related the stock market to "gambling".

Whoa, I just realized something.

In a few years, probably about like 40 for me, I'll be dead. (I'm going to die pretty young, by the way, like 59ish.)

Then it won't matter what anyone's done. Well to the rest of the world, but then again, they're going to die too. And their children will die. And their children will die.

We're all going to die, so why does anything matter?

(This is my other mood. I have two: Insane and suicidal)


hey i agree with you 100%. Everything is just a waste of time. Bush sucks major dick i hate him with a passion, but would kerry be any better? Yes bush has done shit to make the free world not so free but really when someone other then u is making the rules are u free? So, why isn't bush dead yet? b/c nobody has any passion to stand up and DO something, anymore. bush is bad, his ideas are bad, but we still have to wake up go to work to pay the bill and feed our familiy's. people are dieing in the war, but next war all we have to do is just don't sign up, then who will protect us nobody, but a good idea is DO START A WAR, and one little question: in this time and age why the fuck should we have a war, with soliders? so in the end plain and simple Bush sucks but there is nothing we can do about it but complain. the next liber prez we have let the right wingers bitch and moan but they wouldn't be able to do anything about it either. Awww capitilism makes u think u can DO anything but really all you have is thought of mind, which is a waste b/c you can't even DO anything with it. but hey i guess other systems aren't too honest with their secert polices right ;)


Form the mind of a drunken suicidal commie (honest one thou)

but if we "fully instate" economic and social liberties then it would almost be anarchy wouldnt it?
Hardly anarchy. Anarchy means no government. I recognize the need for government, but I'd like to see it greatly reduced.
I'd reduce most of our laws to those governing force and fraud. The government's job should only be to protect us from harm. From other nations, and each other.

I believe that America is giving up more and more freedom in exchange for government security and control. One of the most shocking examples of this recently was a family saying that they were against the privatization of Social Security because they did not want to have to invest the money themselves, and would instead rather the government do it for them. The grandmother related the stock market to "gambling".


if you think about the stock market is gambling. you put money into a certain company and you can either add to it or lose it. thats the exact same thing that happens in a casino your put your money on a number or certain amount of points or even a slot machine and you either add to it or lose it.

That is a tad extreme, however I am a Christian as well and believe that Gay marrage is wrong, as well I do believe that Bush is an excellent man, one of the best presidents we have ever had, and as far as Kerry...oh dont get me started...by the way anyone that uses msn messenger can feel free to add me, whether you agree or disagree with my views, because frankly I love a good debate
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How can we call this a society when people like JFk and Lincoln are shot, but people like Bush arent? I mean what is wrong with this world? The man who shot Bobby Kennedy, who ran against Nixon before Nixon was even elected, was shot by an angry palestinian, why was he angry? He pledged to give money to Israel. What has Bush done? Again, why wasnt he assassinated, he has four years.

Watches as a black Mercedes pulls in front of house, starts to laugh, takes out copy of Constitution.

The true question is why are you still around... Well I can fix that...

*Notices a black car across the street and a man holding the constitution... grabs AR15*

Hardly anarchy. Anarchy means no government. I recognize the need for government, but I'd like to see it greatly reduced.
I'd reduce most of our laws to those governing force and fraud. The government's job should only be to protect us from harm. From other nations, and each other.


ok that makes sense but that is what the government or most of it at least obviously beleives it is doing so thats what they do. well yes anarchy in its purest sense is no government yes.

if you think about the stock market is gambling. you put money into a certain company and you can either add to it or lose it. thats the exact same thing that happens in a casino your put your money on a number or certain amount of points or even a slot machine and you either add to it or lose it.

If you have any sense at all, then the stock market is far from gambling. I do not call calculated investments gambling. I mean, if you just throw your money into whatever company you see first, then you know what they say-- "A fool and his money are soon parted."

a president usually loses about that many cabinet members so its not abnormal stupid. he lost 2 or 3 less than clinton.
ooh nice calling me stupid. That reinforces your argument. I didnt argue about the numbers so whos the stupid one?

I believe that America is giving up more and more freedom in exchange for government security and control. One of the most shocking examples of this recently was a family saying that they were against the privatization of Social Security because they did not want to have to invest the money themselves, and would instead rather the government do it for them. The grandmother related the stock market to "gambling".
"Those that would give up a little liberty for a little security, deserve neither liberty nor security"
_Thomas Jefferson

If you have any sense at all, then the stock market is far from gambling. I do not call calculated investments gambling. I mean, if you just throw your money into whatever company you see first, then you know what they say-- "A fool and his money are soon parted."


i agree that last part is true but investing in anything is a gamble. you gamble when you whether or not you crash or not for instance i know its kind of a crappy metaphor but look its not exactly the same as casino gambling maybe but its still gambling maybe not as dangerously with your money or anything but it is gambling.

i agree that last part is true but investing in anything is a gamble. you gamble when you whether or not you crash or not for instance i know its kind of a crappy metaphor but look its not exactly the same as casino gambling maybe but its still gambling maybe not as dangerously with your money or anything but it is gambling.

Well, in that sense, driving a car is a gamble. Getting out of bed is a gamble. But comparing the stock market to a slot machine is just absurd.

Never fear ... the curse of the zero year Presidential death is still plausible.

For those of you unfamiliar, every President since Lincoln (the only exception is Reagan, but the attempt was made) who was elected in a year ending with 0 (zero) has died in office.

Lincoln didn't get his until his 2nd term ....

There's still time. Ask not for whom the pretzel choketh.

hey come close i want to tell u something :p ...... don't get mad :D ........................................................................ I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN ! WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS FUCKIN COUNTRY THAT DON'T BELIVE IN YOUR FUCKIN GOD DON'T THEY HAVE A SAY IF SAME SEX MARRIAGES SHOULD BE LEGEL OR NOT!!!! OR EVEN HEY WHY NOT JUST LET PEOPLE DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO GET MARRIED TO SOMEONE THE SAME SEX!!!!! NOBODY'S FORCEING US TO HAVE BUTT SEX (my g/f wouldn't let me go up there) SO WAT THE PROB. THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS STRAIGHT PEOPLE HAVE

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I still can't believe this guy is actually suggesting that the President be assasinated. Lord knows I wouldn't be suggesting Kerry's assasination if the election had gone the other way.

I still can't believe this guy is actually suggesting that the President be assasinated. Lord knows I wouldn't be suggesting Kerry's assasination if the election had gone the other way.
Well Kerry isnt a despot. He lied about some personal things, sure, but he would get my vote

Look, bush won because america likes him better than kerry.

CASE CLOSED!

Well Kerry isnt a despot. He lied about some personal things, sure, but he would get my vote
What a coincidence, Bush isn't a despot either.

Well Kerry isnt a despot. He lied about some personal things, sure, but he would get my vote

Wait...do you want Bush assasinated too?

I believe slightly left wing presidents are more likely to get shot because extremists with guns in America are usually far right wingers.

Oswald was a communist. Lincoln was certainly not left wing.

No.

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