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What freedoms have I given up?

Andaluciae
21-01-2005, 06:10
Please, enlighten me as to what freedoms I have lost.
Salchicho
21-01-2005, 06:12
Please, enlighten me as to what freedoms I have lost.
The freedom to blow up innocent people in the buildings in which they work. Damn Patriot Act.
Colodia
21-01-2005, 06:12
Are you a white Christian who lives in America?

(Not implying anything, it just makes sense to know a bit more about this person)
Andaluciae
21-01-2005, 06:15
Are you a white Christian who lives in America?

(Not implying anything, it just makes sense to know a bit more about this person)
Yep, well actually the Christian part varies on a regular basis. I'll often go from that to agnosticism and back in a very short period of time...
Salchicho
21-01-2005, 06:15
Are you a white Christian who lives in America?

(Not implying anything, it just makes sense to know a bit more about this person)
White, not a christian. Muslim.
Keruvalia
21-01-2005, 06:29
The freedom to blow up innocent people in the buildings in which they work. Damn Patriot Act.

Well so much for my weekend plans.
Alomogordo
21-01-2005, 06:33
Please, enlighten me as to what freedoms I have lost.
The right to know your charges when being arrested.

The right to contact an attorney after arrest.

The confidence of knowing that police can only search you with a warrant.

Is that enough or should I go on?
Keruvalia
21-01-2005, 06:34
Yep, well actually the Christian part varies on a regular basis. I'll often go from that to agnosticism and back in a very short period of time...


FLIP-FLOPPER! :D
Selgin
21-01-2005, 06:41
Are you a white Christian who lives in America?

(Not implying anything, it just makes sense to know a bit more about this person)
Are you a white liberal agnostic who lives in Europe? You may not be implying anything, but that sure sounds like stereotyping to me. How does knowing someone is a white Christian American help you judge the opinions and ideas they express here? Can you not detect bias without knowing someone's race, religion, age, etc? If you are liberal, I find it ironic that you ask the question, since it is usually conservatives that are accused of being racist.
Colodia
21-01-2005, 06:42
Are you a white liberal agnostic who lives in Europe? You may not be implying anything, but that sure sounds like stereotyping to me. How does knowing someone is a white Christian American help you judge the opinions and ideas they express here? Can you not detect bias without knowing someone's race, religion, age, etc? If you are liberal, I find it ironic that you ask the question, since it is usually conservatives that are accused of being racist.
Nope, minority liberal Muslim in California.

And you may also find it ironic that I am pro-gun

AND I support the death penalty.


(wait a sec, RACIST?)
Alomogordo
21-01-2005, 06:43
Are you a white liberal agnostic who lives in Europe? You may not be implying anything, but that sure sounds like stereotyping to me. How does knowing someone is a white Christian American help you judge the opinions and ideas they express here? Can you not detect bias without knowing someone's race, religion, age, etc? If you are liberal, I find it ironic that you ask the question, since it is usually conservatives that are accused of being racist.
He's not being racist, he's just being a jerk.
Selgin
21-01-2005, 06:44
He's not being racist, he's just being a jerk.
I stand corrected. Jerk it is, then. :D
Colodia
21-01-2005, 06:45
He's not being racist, he's just being a jerk.
Now I'm a jerk....

HEY EVERYONE, I'M A BIG, FAT JERK! AND NOW I'LL EAT SOME SNAKES, SOME BIG, FAT, POISONOUS.....SNAKES!

"Now THAT'S sarcasm...."
Alomogordo
21-01-2005, 06:50
Now I'm a jerk....

HEY EVERYONE, I'M A BIG, FAT JERK! AND NOW I'LL EAT SOME SNAKES, SOME BIG, FAT, POISONOUS.....SNAKES!

"Now THAT'S sarcasm...."
Um, what? :confused:
Colodia
21-01-2005, 06:51
Um, what? :confused:
Nothing, you caught me in a mood swing.


Back and forth...
Logical and insane...
logical and insane...
back and forth...
Bleddrook
21-01-2005, 06:54
Not a racist or a jerk. Far as I can tell, he asked the question so he could pinpoint what freedoms the thread starter had lost. And seriously, you guys went way overboard with your assumptions. Calling him a racist over one simple question? Christ...
Colodia
21-01-2005, 06:57
Not a racist or a jerk. Far as I can tell, he asked the question so he could pinpoint what freedoms the thread starter had lost. And seriously, you guys went way overboard with your assumptions. Calling him a racist over one simple question? Christ...
It's alright, I've been called worse, while I was at worse moods.

I actually would do anything to get a good laugh. We all seem to need one.
Alomogordo
21-01-2005, 06:57
Not a racist or a jerk. Far as I can tell, he asked the question so he could pinpoint what freedoms the thread starter had lost. And seriously, you guys went way overboard with your assumptions. Calling him a racist over one simple question? Christ...
We all overreacted! How's that?
Selgin
21-01-2005, 07:07
It's alright, I've been called worse, while I was at worse moods.

I actually would do anything to get a good laugh. We all seem to need one.
Sorry, I'm a little cranky myself. A lawyer joke:
You have a gun with two bullets, and you are put in a cage with a hungry lion, a hungry tiger, and a lawyer. What do you do?

Shoot the lawyer. Twice. :D
Selgin
21-01-2005, 07:12
Sorry, I'm a little cranky myself. A lawyer joke:
You have a gun with two bullets, and you are put in a cage with a hungry lion, a hungry tiger, and a lawyer. What do you do?

Shoot the lawyer. Twice. :D
I apologise to any lawyers in here. Please understand that the opinions, statements, and facts presented here in no way represent the views of Nation States Forum, its advertisers, subsidiaries, affiliates, children, or third cousins.
Gactimus
21-01-2005, 07:16
The right to know your charges when being arrested.

The right to contact an attorney after arrest.

The confidence of knowing that police can only search you with a warrant.

Is that enough or should I go on?
Considering that you are wrong on all counts, I would advise against it.
Keruvalia
21-01-2005, 07:18
Now I'm a jerk....


The instant to admitting you're a Muslim, even if you are the greatest human being on the planet, you become a horrible, evil, rancid, filthy, hate-mongering jerk.

Case in point: Paula Abdul is a Muslim. They cut much of her stuff from the American Idol broadcasts in order to keep the average American TV viewer from knowing she's Muslim. She is painted, therefore, as the "nice" judge. The one who has nothing bad to say about anyone. This could not be farther from the truth, but, if average America found out she were Muslim, the show would die instantly.
Selgin
21-01-2005, 07:31
The instant to admitting you're a Muslim, even if you are the greatest human being on the planet, you become a horrible, evil, rancid, filthy, hate-mongering jerk.

Well, not rancid ... :D
While that may be true for some, for most, it is not. You stereotype the rest of America when you say that. While I don't deny that there is definitely some prejudice against Muslims in the U.S., the vast majority do not look upon Muslims as you say we do. There have been no mosque burnings, no internment camps, etc.
Keruvalia
21-01-2005, 07:35
There have been no mosque burnings, no internment camps, etc.

Give it time ... Bush's 2nd term did just start today, after all. ;)
Selgin
21-01-2005, 07:43
Give it time ... Bush's 2nd term did just start today, after all. ;)
That's right, I forgot about our secret plan to .... I mean our new "compassionate to Muslims reach-out program" ... :D
Neo-Anarchists
21-01-2005, 07:57
Considering that you are wrong on all counts, I would advise against it.
What?
O.o

Have you read the Patriot Act? It's terribly dry, but you'd be surprised what you see in there.
Keruvalia
21-01-2005, 08:10
That's right, I forgot about our secret plan to .... I mean our new "compassionate to Muslims reach-out program" ... :D

*tee hee* :D :D

Don't tell me your secret plan ... I might leak it to the enemy. :eek: :eek:

(:D)
Sdaeriji
21-01-2005, 08:20
You've lost your right to smoke a fat blunt rolled in the American flag in the middle of an elementary school classroom. Goddamn government.
Neo-Anarchists
21-01-2005, 08:23
You've lost your right to smoke a fat blunt rolled in the American flag in the middle of an elementary school classroom. Goddamn government.
Yeah...
:(
Now I don't have anything to do on Fridays.
Squi
21-01-2005, 09:10
You've lost your right to smoke a fat blunt rolled in the American flag in the middle of an elementary school classroom. Goddamn government.Curse you President Rosevelt and your fascist state.
Garmia
21-01-2005, 09:31
You haven't lost much, just the third through seventh and fourteenth amendments.
Squi
21-01-2005, 09:48
You haven't lost much, just the third through seventh and fourteenth amendments.You mean they've been quartering troops in people's houses? Are you sure about the 3rd amendment?