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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4190699.stm

This is just getting stupid. I mean he is a cartoon character for crying out loud!!!

EDIT: I just nicked the title from the BBC, so if you want to complain, write to them about it...

The video's makers plan to mail it to US schools in the spring to promote tolerance and diversity
dont those fools know? teaching tolerance and diversity is tantamount to teaching homosexuality

Spongebob doesn't promote homosexuality. It promotes beastiality. Note that spongebob can sometimes be seen holding hands with Patrick. Patrick isn't of the same species. It also promotes drug abuse because you have to be really stoned to watch it if you are over 10.

dont those fools know? teaching tolerance and diversity is tantamount to teaching homosexuality

The quote by the guy from the WAFF is the best

WAFF spokesman Mark Barondeso told the newspaper that anyone who thought the video promoted homosexuality "needs to visit their doctor and get their medication increased".

some people have too much time on their hands...

http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2004/thespongebobsquarepantsmovie.html

Yup totally hard core stuff....
Patrick also displays sexual perversion in the final scene, when he attends a rock concert wearing fishnet stockings and women's black leather boots.

dont those fools know? teaching tolerance and diversity is tantamount to teaching homosexuality

and a chance for people to vent their own lack of knowledge and homophobia. So let me get this straight, kids are going to copy a a cartoon character and by doing this they are going to decide on their sexuality. I can understand that people who object don't want gay offsrping I mean what will the neighbours say? I thought parents wanted informed kids to make informed decisions on their own at an appropiate time. When I see a bunch of kids looking like Spongebob all saying they love eachother and start performing inappropiately then I'll admitt this is wrong

Yes, I find a sponge being stupid highly offensive. Man, Christians should just lock themselves in the closet if they don't want to see these movies. I'm one of them, but God, I see all kinds of crap.

What a load of balony this is. I am straight but don't have a huge problem with it, why do these religious nutters have such a big thing about them. The gays are happy being gay, and this planet is overpopulated, whats wrong with men not being able to breed! Everyone wins.

SpongeBob - who appears on the children's cable channel Nickelodeon - is seen as an icon for adult gay men in the US, apparently because he regularly holds hands with his sidekick Patrick.

What seriously?

When did this happen? I guess I must have missed this month's issue of Homosexual Agenda. Jeez forget one and you totally lose track of the plan to destroy western civilization.

SpongeBob is stupid and that's it, I hope he gets blown of the cable.

What seriously?

When did this happen? I guess I must have missed this month's issue of Homosexual Agenda. Jeez forget one and you totally lose track of the plan to destroy western civilization.

Jeeze man, you need to stay in touch. You missed more than just one issue of the agenda if you didn't know SpongeBob's popularity was part of the master plan, and secretly brainwashing all kids to be gay and run around naked for the benefit of all us evil gay men, who coincidentally, are also pedophiles and fetishists.

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I used to listen to that James Dobson when I was a church-going teenager. Not all the time or anything, but in the car with my mom and stuff. It's embarrassing to see them getting totaly stupid. This isn't even homophobia, it's paranoia.

*snip*
I thought parents wanted informed kids to make informed decisions on their own at an appropiate time.
*snip*

The problem is that some want them to be informed only about what they, the parents, believe to be right. This probably does not include holding hands with starfish and sponges. :eek:

This probably does not include holding hands with starfish and sponges. :eek:

I wasn't even aware starfishes and sponges had hands for them to hold.

I guess those kids will have to settle for holding hands with their same-sex best friend without any second thought, while their parents start preparing the soul-purifying rituals to save their children from the evil satanic influence of perceived gayness.

Meh. :roll:

oh no! kids might start to think that sponge-on-starfish sex is acceptable!

oh no! kids might start to think that sponge-on-starfish sex is acceptable!

You mean...? It isn't? Oh God! What have I been doing all this time?! The homosexuals have already gotten to me!

KHAAAAAAAN!

You mean...? It isn't? Oh God! What have I been doing all this time?! The homosexuals have already gotten to me!

KHAAAAAAAN!


My work here is done.


Hehehehe.


Hahahaha.


MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

(evil laughter fades off slowly in the distance...)

Heh...I love how there is so much objection to butts being shown. Because clearly, cartoon butts will cause the inevitable downfall of society.

The Religious Right will start seeing a Gay Agenda everywhere they look. This is just irrefutable proof of how they've worked themselves up into conducting a... Bitch Hunt.

I wouldn't be surprised if every allegation of Gay Agenda conspiracy collected could make the X Files look like yesterday's junk mail in scale. We could call those.. the XY Files.

These characters are not real, and are not even human, so many may choose to gloss over the animated nude scenes, though it sends a wrong message to children that it's okay to pull down one's pants for a laugh.

You mean it isn't :confused:



::Edit:: After reading some of the reviews for other films this website cannot really be faulted though (provided you ignore the 'Moral Rating' and the occasional 'some Christians may be offended.").

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4190699.stm

This is just getting stupid. I mean he is a cartoon character for crying out loud!!!

EDIT: I just nicked the title from the BBC, so if you want to complain, write to them about it...

SIGH! Sounds like another example of the tendency toward overreaction on the part of some fundamentalists. I hug my grown sons just like I hug my grown daughters. I've actually had some local fundamentalists mention to me that this might give people "the wrong impression." I politely told them to kiss my lilly white azz! :D

EDIT: Oh yeah ... I also told them that I would pray for them! Hehehe! :D

Hahahaha,
That is so funny

This is rediculous. Has this world gone so to hell that fucking religious fanaticals have to attack a simple childrens cartoon character. I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and even to share their opinion but arent we all created equal? If your religion prohibits you from being gay thats fine but do not condemn homosexuals to a life of segregation as if they are diseased. If somebody enjoys a life style that you do not approve of that does not give you the right to banish them. I realize that we havent actually banished them but we may as well have. It's no different than Hitler with the Jews. they had different beliefs so he murdered them. We are not murdering homosexuals but we are subjecting them to a life filled with hate and make them ashamed of who they are like it's wrong. If it doesnt affect you then why must you throw a huge fit about it. It's no different than 7 year old boys saying that girls have 'cooties'. The whole argument that homosexuality is childish and unsupported by fact.

Organized Christianity in this nation is becoming a major fucking embarrassment. We have a very small group of people making us look like a nation of idiots.

What seriously?

When did this happen? I guess I must have missed this month's issue of Homosexual Agenda. Jeez forget one and you totally lose track of the plan to destroy western civilization.
No kidding, all this time I thought he was an icon for stoners.

Maybe I've been going to the wrong meetings....teach me for starting before I get there..........




Seriously, though-because he holds hands with his buddy? Teachers make the kids hold hands anytime they go anywhere-sweet crap, they're turning the kids GAY!!!!!!!

Now this is yet another example that I don't automatically assume that the BBC has its facts straight. They kinda miss Dobson's point, making it sound like he disapproves of Spongebob Squarepants or thinks that Spongebob is gay. As is often the case on certain sensitive issues, the BBC's bias trumps factual reporting. In Dobson's own words:

"..let's be clear that this issue is not about objections to any specific cartoon characters."

He goes on to explain that the objection is over one particular video "slated to be distributed to 61,000 public and private elementary schools throughout the United States" and which has a tolerance pledge which includes a reference to "sexual identity". The objection is that the issue of sexual identity is "beyond the comprehension of 6 and 7 year-old children", and that the distribution of the video "trumps the authority of mothers and fathers [regarding the teaching of moral issues] and leaves it in the hands of strangers whose standards may very well be different than the children they teach." Again, the objection is only for the video itself, not any characters featured in the video.

My source: http://family.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/family.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=17669

Please note that I'm not endorsing or attacking Dobson's view. (Personally, I don't agree with it at certain points, as I tend to think the inclusion of "sexual identity" is at worst, harmless, but I'm also not exactly willing to spew venom and go to war over it either.) I'm just trying to clarify what that view is.

In 1999 conservatives claimed handbag-carrying Teletubby Tinky Winky, an import from the UK, was a bad role-model.
Well, they do have a point with this. Teletubbies should be outlawed.

Nothing like the US "Religious Right" to take something as bad as religion and make it 100 times worse.

Now this is yet another example that I don't automatically assume that the BBC has its facts straight. They kinda miss Dobson's point, making it sound like he disapproves of Spongebob Squarepants or thinks that Spongebob is gay. As is often the case on certain sensitive issues, the BBC's bias trumps factual reporting. In Dobson's own words:

"..let's be clear that this issue is not about objections to any specific cartoon characters."

He goes on to explain that the objection is over one particular video "slated to be distributed to 61,000 public and private elementary schools throughout the United States" and which has a tolerance pledge which includes a reference to "sexual identity". The objection is that the issue of sexual identity is "beyond the comprehension of 6 and 7 year-old children", and that the distribution of the video "trumps the authority of mothers and fathers [regarding the teaching of moral issues] and leaves it in the hands of strangers whose standards may very well be different than the children they teach." Again, the objection is only for the video itself, not any characters featured in the video.

My source: http://family.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/family.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=17669

Please note that I'm not endorsing or attacking Dobson's view. (Personally, I don't agree with it at certain points, as I tend to think the inclusion of "sexual identity" is at worst, harmless, but I'm also not exactly willing to spew venom and go to war over it either.) I'm just trying to clarify what that view is.
In that optic, I would like to see Mr. Dobson object to the pledge of allegiance in the same fashion. Because, just like this video, the pledge "trumps the authority of mothers and fathers [regarding the teaching of moral issues] and leaves it in the hands of strangers whose standards may very well be different than the children they teach." (especially the "under God" part). Also, one has to wonder if the pledge doesn't have notions that are "beyond the comprehension of 6 and 7 year-old children".

*Relieved sigh*

Finally, Dobson is being criticized over what he actually said. My work here is done. :D

*Relieved sigh*

Finally, Dobson is being criticized over what he actually said. My work here is done. :D
and a good job you did too. :D

Spongebob doesn't promote homosexuality. It promotes beastiality. Note that spongebob can sometimes be seen holding hands with Patrick. Patrick isn't of the same species. It also promotes drug abuse because you have to be really stoned to watch it if you are over 10.

Hey! Both me and a one of my friends are fans. We're just a tad insane and engineers.

I am pretty damn serious here, but if you are a fan of SpongeBob while over the age of ten, you need a realitycheck. Really, grown up men and women watching a cartoon.

What's the big deal?

I am pretty damn serious here, but if you are a fan of SpongeBob while over the age of ten, you need a realitycheck. Really, grown up men and women watching a cartoon.

What's the big deal?

What's so much better about live-action tv programmes?

What's so much better about live-action tv programmes?
no seriously, if you are watching anything on nickelodeon in the past 5 years, you need to grow the hell up, those are the worst, most immature, childest shows i have ever seen.

move on up to cartoon network or boomerang and go back to saturday morning cartoons

Remember old cartoons like Woody Woodpecker, and Tom and Jerry? Those were great. Violent as all hell too. It's no wonder my generation grew up the way we did.

Spongebob doesn't promote homosexuality. It promotes beastiality. Note that spongebob can sometimes be seen holding hands with Patrick. Patrick isn't of the same species. It also promotes drug abuse because you have to be really stoned to watch it if you are over 10.I completely agree... Mindless.. all of it...

Apparently, Matt Lauer interviewed the creator of the video on NBC this morning. The video guy's foundation has the same name as another group that IS glbt-friendly. Lauer and the video guy were apparently laughing about the mistake (I say apparently because this came to me second hand), and apparently, Focus KNEW about this mistake and pressed on anyway, hoping to score some homophobia points and spread some fear around, again, KNOWING that their argument was built on a flawed premise.

As a friend of mine asked, if you're either conservative and/or a christian, does it bother you knowing there's a group out there that is a conservative christian group that is willfully selling lies of this sort?

Hey! Both me and a one of my friends are fans. We're just a tad insane and engineers. Yeah.. that says a lot about engineers...lol...

Apparently, Matt Lauer interviewed the creator of the video on NBC this morning. The video guy's foundation has the same name as another group that IS glbt-friendly. Lauer and the video guy were apparently laughing about the mistake (I say apparently because this came to me second hand), and apparently, Focus KNEW about this mistake and pressed on anyway, hoping to score some homophobia points and spread some fear around, again, KNOWING that their argument was built on a flawed premise.

As a friend of mine asked, if you're either conservative and/or a christian, does it bother you knowing there's a group out there that is a conservative christian group that is willfully selling lies of this sort?
That is disturbing. But I'm only responding because, as a hippie grad student, I dig the hell out of your name.

Has anybody seen the pirate on that show? I am pretty sure we is not to be trusted with influencing the minds of little children or the generally stoned population. I think the religious right actually has a case?


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You leave the Flying Dutchman out of this! :p

no seriously, if you are watching anything on nickelodeon in the past 5 years, you need to grow the hell up, those are the worst, most immature, childest shows i have ever seen.

move on up to cartoon network or boomerang and go back to saturday morning cartoons

Ever seen Invader Zim?

I am pretty damn serious here, but if you are a fan of SpongeBob while over the age of ten, you need a realitycheck. Really, grown up men and women watching a cartoon.

What's the big deal?
Adults have been watching animation for as long as there has been animation.

Ever seen Invader Zim?

Got it on DVD. :D

isn't there something BETTER that could be done other than attack a cartoon character?

You leave the Flying Dutchman out of this! :p

I think he was talking about Patchy. :D

isn't there something BETTER that could be done other than attack a cartoon character?
Well, I guess not.
:D

"Patrick also displays sexual perversion in the final scene, when he attends a rock concert wearing fishnet stockings and women's black leather boots."

Sounds more like social satire to me.