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Don't Lose Your Head Over It!

Johnny Wadd
20-01-2005, 17:44
Now this is a creative way to go. Hats off to this guy:



Decapitated man found behind Hazlet theater
BY DAN NEWMAN
Staff Writer



HAZLET — Two juveniles came upon a gruesome discovery Saturday night when they saw a man who had apparently committed suicide and, in the process, was decapitated.

The body of Wolfgang Persieck, 50, of Union Beach, was spotted by the two teens, ages 14 and 17, as they rode through the back parking lot of the Hazlet Multiplex Cinemas theater around 10:30 p.m.

“The two juveniles were riding around when they saw a decapitated body hanging over the back seat of a vehicle,” Hazlet Detective Sgt. Howard Nuss said. “At this point, they flagged down Holmdel Officer David D’Arcy, who was in the area investigating a separate incident.”

According to Nuss, Persieck decapitated himself by using three separate ropes, tying one end of each around a light post in the back parking lot of the theater located on the northbound side of Route 35, and the other around his neck.

Once the ropes were secure, Persieck got into his 2004 Ford Explorer and started to drive. His head was found approximately 100 feet from his body, Nuss said.

“There were no skid marks, so we don’t believe that he was going at a high rate of speed. He had about a 40-foot run-up so we figure at best he was doing 30 mph at the moment of decapitation,” Nuss said.

The vehicle coasted to a stop about 200 feet later, after it hopped a curb and hit a small tree. Nuss said that it was evident after talking to family members and discovering other supporting materials, that it was a suicide.

“Apparently, he [Persieck] had been having problems recently in his life. He left six pages of notes in the vehicle, which we found afterward,” Nuss said. “The kids who found the victim were definitely shaken up.”

He also said that grief counselors would be available to the teens if needed.

“This is certainly a unique case. I’ve been an officer for 24 years and this was not a common thing at all. I’ve come across my fair share of suicides, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like this,” Nuss said.



I guess you have to be really depressed to do something like that. My question is did he really have to use three ropes? Could two have sufficed?
Johnny Wadd
20-01-2005, 19:28
bump
Neo-Anarchists
20-01-2005, 19:30
Wow, that's disturbing...
Decapitation by car and ropes?
I've never heard of anything like it before.
The Purple Relm
20-01-2005, 19:42
I guess you have to give him points for creativity.
Neo-Anarchists
20-01-2005, 19:46
I guess you have to give him points for creativity.
I guess...
There are always some people who seem to want to die in unusual ways. The oddest I'd heard before this was death by cutting oneself in two across the midsection with a bandsaw. I am glad I wasn't there.
Jordaxia
20-01-2005, 19:51
I guess...
There are always some people who seem to want to die in unusual ways. The oddest I'd heard before this was death by cutting oneself in two across the midsection with a bandsaw. I am glad I wasn't there.

That guy must have been a frustrated lumberjack and/or bond villain.
Truly bizaare.
Neo-Anarchists
20-01-2005, 19:53
That guy must have been a frustrated lumberjack and/or bond villain.
Truly bizaare.
The one with the bandsaw?
No, he was just severely mentally ill, and that was his ideal form of death.
I saw a picture, luckily after the police had cleaned the place up a bit, and also luckily with the cut section turned away. It was absolutely gruesome.

Funny thing is, the expression he had on at death was a smile. That was what reall put me off. Dead guy cut i half, blood all over the walls, huge psychotic grin on dead guy's face.
:(
Andaluciae
20-01-2005, 20:04
yikes, that's not how I'd want to go...
Drunk commies
20-01-2005, 20:06
Now this is a creative way to go. Hats off to this guy:



Decapitated man found behind Hazlet theater
BY DAN NEWMAN
Staff Writer



HAZLET — Two juveniles came upon a gruesome discovery Saturday night when they saw a man who had apparently committed suicide and, in the process, was decapitated.

The body of Wolfgang Persieck, 50, of Union Beach, was spotted by the two teens, ages 14 and 17, as they rode through the back parking lot of the Hazlet Multiplex Cinemas theater around 10:30 p.m.

“The two juveniles were riding around when they saw a decapitated body hanging over the back seat of a vehicle,” Hazlet Detective Sgt. Howard Nuss said. “At this point, they flagged down Holmdel Officer David D’Arcy, who was in the area investigating a separate incident.”

According to Nuss, Persieck decapitated himself by using three separate ropes, tying one end of each around a light post in the back parking lot of the theater located on the northbound side of Route 35, and the other around his neck.

Once the ropes were secure, Persieck got into his 2004 Ford Explorer and started to drive. His head was found approximately 100 feet from his body, Nuss said.

“There were no skid marks, so we don’t believe that he was going at a high rate of speed. He had about a 40-foot run-up so we figure at best he was doing 30 mph at the moment of decapitation,” Nuss said.

The vehicle coasted to a stop about 200 feet later, after it hopped a curb and hit a small tree. Nuss said that it was evident after talking to family members and discovering other supporting materials, that it was a suicide.

“Apparently, he [Persieck] had been having problems recently in his life. He left six pages of notes in the vehicle, which we found afterward,” Nuss said. “The kids who found the victim were definitely shaken up.”

He also said that grief counselors would be available to the teens if needed.

“This is certainly a unique case. I’ve been an officer for 24 years and this was not a common thing at all. I’ve come across my fair share of suicides, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like this,” Nuss said.



I guess you have to be really depressed to do something like that. My question is did he really have to use three ropes? Could two have sufficed?
Is that in Hazlet, New Jersey? Even our suicides are original and interesting.
Bill Mutz
20-01-2005, 20:13
The one with the bandsaw?
No, he was just severely mentally ill, and that was his ideal form of death.
I saw a picture, luckily after the police had cleaned the place up a bit, and also luckily with the cut section turned away. It was absolutely gruesome.

Funny thing is, the expression he had on at death was a smile. That was what reall put me off. Dead guy cut i half, blood all over the walls, huge psychotic grin on dead guy's face.
:(Each to his own.

The reason people want to go in unusual ways sometimes is that they want attention. Perhaps some find it easier to go through with it if they are laughing about what they're about to do. It is very interesting to think about, really.
Flamebaittrolls
21-01-2005, 15:53
Reminds me of a tale a teacher once told me of a woman who's long scarf got caught under the rear wheel of her convertable with similarly hillarious results.
Katganistan
21-01-2005, 16:19
I can't seem to find this story in any news source....
John Browning
21-01-2005, 17:15
I remember seeing an accidental decapitation in California.

Drunk guy driving in the fast lane with his window rolled down, not wearing a seat belt.

Left side of car rubs the center jersey wall, and he momentarily flopped out the driver's side window, where his head was taken off by the central concrete pillar of an overpass.

Knocked his body back in the car, which luckily coasted to a stop.

His blood fountained all over the inside of the car, because his heart kept pumping out the stump.

Not the most gruesome thing I've seen, but it's right up there.

Kids, keep your head and arms inside the car at all times.
Drunk commies
21-01-2005, 17:17
I remember seeing an accidental decapitation in California.

Drunk guy driving in the fast lane with his window rolled down, not wearing a seat belt.

Left side of car rubs the center jersey wall, and he momentarily flopped out the driver's side window, where his head was taken off by the central concrete pillar of an overpass.

Knocked his body back in the car, which luckily coasted to a stop.

His blood fountained all over the inside of the car, because his heart kept pumping out the stump.

Not the most gruesome thing I've seen, but it's right up there.

Kids, keep your head and arms inside the car at all times.
Jersey wall?
Tolax
21-01-2005, 17:26
I think he means the concreate barrier that you see down the center of some highways.
Drunk commies
21-01-2005, 17:26
Oh, ok. Thanks.
The Roxburry
21-01-2005, 17:39
omfg ewwwwwwwwww! I would die if I was the person who found him I guess you have to be pretty depressed to do somthing like that!
John Browning
21-01-2005, 17:45
Oddly, I find that while seeing dead people may be shocking, it is not always so. Seeing people dead in a specific context has more to do with the shock value - not the manner of death (at least for me). And, if you don't actually see the act take place, it's not as shocking.

I don't even like to hear injured people scream, it's unnerving. But, those times I've come upon an adult who has died as the result of their own stupidity, sometimes it's hard to suppress a laugh. Other dead generate a lot of sympathy and sometimes sadness, even if I didn't know them.

I don't think there's one generalized shock reaction to seeing dead people.
Belperia
21-01-2005, 17:47
This is an urban myth. I first heard this story as being a bloke from Beeston in Nottinghamshire who did the exact same thing on the Uni campus in Nottingham. That would have been '89-'90.

No doubt it has some origin, but this story is not it.
Presidency
21-01-2005, 17:51
I suppose we needed him out of the geene pool anyway?
John Browning
21-01-2005, 17:51
Well, someone did it:

http://journalsip.astm.org/jofs/PAGES/1930.htm

Mods, this is Not a picture link
Occidio Multus
21-01-2005, 17:52
Oddly, I find that while seeing dead people may be shocking, it is not always so. Seeing people dead in a specific context has more to do with the shock value - not the manner of death (at least for me). And, if you don't actually see the act take place, it's not as shocking.

I don't even like to hear injured people scream, it's unnerving. But, those times I've come upon an adult who has died as the result of their own stupidity, sometimes it's hard to suppress a laugh. Other dead generate a lot of sympathy and sometimes sadness, even if I didn't know them.

I don't think there's one generalized shock reaction to seeing dead people.
soemtimes there is never a reaction. i am a trade embalmer, and i never had any horrifying reaction to anything that has come across my table, and there have been some bad ones. i think it is a gut reaction that one is born with. some are sensitive, some are not.
Demented Hamsters
21-01-2005, 17:54
Is that in Hazlet, New Jersey? Even our suicides are original and interesting.
Not that original. I have heard being done like that before. Unusual, but not uncommon.
Though the decapitation one is new to me. Especially at such a low speed. He must have been fairly weak-necked.
Demented Hamsters
21-01-2005, 17:57
Oddly, I find that while seeing dead people may be shocking, it is not always so. Seeing people dead in a specific context has more to do with the shock value - not the manner of death (at least for me). And, if you don't actually see the act take place, it's not as shocking.

I don't even like to hear injured people scream, it's unnerving. But, those times I've come upon an adult who has died as the result of their own stupidity, sometimes it's hard to suppress a laugh. Other dead generate a lot of sympathy and sometimes sadness, even if I didn't know them.

I don't think there's one generalized shock reaction to seeing dead people.
I think the laughter at seeing a dead body would be a shock reaction. Because you don't quite know what to do or say in that particular instance and it just comes out.
Occidio Multus
21-01-2005, 17:57
Now this is a creative way to go. Hats off to this guy:

“The kids who found the victim were definitely shaken up.”

He also said that grief counselors would be available to the teens if needed.


Right now, the world over is rattling with the " why couldn't that have been us, dude?" of teenage grind core metal fans. "we have taken pictures!! and a sample of his brain!!!"
John Browning
21-01-2005, 17:59
soemtimes there is never a reaction. i am a trade embalmer, and i never had any horrifying reaction to anything that has come across my table, and there have been some bad ones. i think it is a gut reaction that one is born with. some are sensitive, some are not.

I think the bonus you get is that you aren't seeing it at the moment it happens, and you get to see it all the time, in a lot of different variations.

Watching people burn alive while they're screaming for help is more unnerving than seeing the charred corpses six hours later.
Occidio Multus
21-01-2005, 18:02
I think the bonus you get is that you aren't seeing it at the moment it happens, and you get to see it all the time, in a lot of different variations.

Watching people burn alive while they're screaming for help is more unnerving than seeing the charred corpses six hours later.

you have a point, however i dealt with that one too...my best friend slit his throat and wrists in my bathroom. i didn't get too upset- until i saw his mom at the funeral. :(
LazyHippies
21-01-2005, 18:02
Reminds me of a tale a teacher once told me of a woman who's long scarf got caught under the rear wheel of her convertable with similarly hillarious results.

That reminds me of something I actually witnessed. Thankfully the results weren't tragic, just funny. I was in the car with some friends on our way back from a martial arts class. Suddenly we heard what sounded like a person being slapped hard, and the car kinda jerked, and I saw my friend who was sitting next to me in the backseat be jerked forward as if he had been slapped in the back of his head real hard. We didnt understand what had happened at the moment. We noticed that right around the time this happened, two guys were on the side of the road and we thought those guys had thrown a rock at the car and hit my friend. But this made no sense since the rear window was intact and all of the windows were closed. We stopped the car to see if there was some damage to the car or any way to explain this phenomenon. Thats when we finally realised what had happened. My friend had closed the door with his karate belt still sticking out, there was enough of it sticking out that it got caught under the rear tire, causing it to snap hard. Since my friend had the belt thrown around the back of his neck, when it snapped it jerked his head forward and gave him a rope burn.
John Browning
21-01-2005, 18:04
Isadora Duncan died when her veil (or scarf) was caught under the wheel of her car.

http://www.sfmuseum.org/bio/isadora.html

MODS - no freaky pictures at the link