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I, personally, on behalf of the truly patriotic Americans (yes, there are still 6 or 7 of us), would like to thank Europe for REACH and extend my hopes that they continue such endeavors to protect not only themselves, but the world, as you grow to become an econimic super power.

I would like to thank you for showing the US that we cannot just run rampant, willy-nilly, with impunity around the globe.

Yes, I am serious. This is not sarcasm. I am glad to see a growing economic power that does not cow to the US and isn't afraid to dole out spankings if needed.

Thanks, Europe! :)

Note: If you don't know what REACH is or don't know its affects on US industry, look it up. If you're too stupid to pay attention to global news instead of just local drivel, then I'm not wasting my time explaining it to you.

what else can I say but your welcome :)

Well thanks for that, but I wouldn't be greatful of the EU to quickly. Anything good to come out of the EU is probably purely selfish or down to luck. The EU has come with some really great stuff in it's time though, such an example being the CAP. (If you won't be sarcastic I will)

Thanks, Europe! :)

No problem, any time dude...

...looks up REACH on Wikipedia...

As the word reach is actually quite common in English, for those of you who don't know look here (http://europa.eu.int/comm/environment/chemicals/reach.htm)

:)

I, personally, on behalf of the truly patriotic Americans (yes, there are still 6 or 7 of us), would like to thank Europe for REACH and extend my hopes that they continue such endeavors to protect not only themselves, but the world, as you grow to become an econimic super power.

I would like to thank you for showing the US that we cannot just run rampant, willy-nilly, with impunity around the globe.

Yes, I am serious. This is not sarcasm. I am glad to see a growing economic power that does not cow to the US and isn't afraid to dole out spankings if needed.

Thanks, Europe! :)

Note: If you don't know what REACH is or don't know its affects on US industry, look it up. If you're too stupid to pay attention to global news instead of just local drivel, then I'm not wasting my time explaining it to you.

If you're such an American patriot, wouldn't you be more happy if America limited itself, not letting other nations or organisations do so?

Economic cooperation between the United States and the European Union will definitely bring fiscal rewards to both countries. On that note I agree with you.

I'm a bit unclear on justifying patriotism on the basis of whether or not one supports REACH. I am sure that there are a number of faithful Americans that support REACH and a number who are against it. To me, whether you support an organization or not does not determine patriotism to one's country. There are plenty of people in this world who love their countries, but perhaps strongly disagree with their governments.

Revolutions occur in history (or are supposed to occur) because people in certain nations want to make their nation a better place for their citizens.

To me, Kennedy put it best, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." If your actions, however large or small, make your country a better place, then you my friend are a patriot to your nation.

Thanks, Europe! :)

You are most welcome.

You are no patriot if you are happy the United States is losing power. If anything, you are a traitor.

Although, I'm not to informed on this REACH thing, so I'll look into it and get back to you.

If you're such an American patriot, wouldn't you be more happy if America limited itself, not letting other nations or organisations do so?


He might be more happy, but that doesnt preclude him from being very happy that it occured at all.

Any parent would be happy if a doctor made their sick child well, regardless of how much 'more happy' they would be if the child somehow cured itself.

You are no patriot if you are happy the United States is losing power. If anything, you are a traitor.


America's hopelessly inept and awful use of its own power is a bad thing for america.

Any parent who loved their child would, if they saw him playing with a machine gun, take that gun away.

A chemical bill for Europe? Well thats cute. I dont see how that bill really showsthe US anyhting. And on the economic front, even with 450 million members it still cant hold a candle to us. Their unemployment rates are twice ours, and there economic system isnt geared for economic growth. Its social based, not capital based.

And i agree, you should look to the US and encourage your own country to improve. Do not look to Europe forthe answers to Americas problems.

[QUOTE=New Granada]America's hopelessly inept and awful use of its own power is a bad thing for america.QUOTE]

Europe's unfounded arrogance and ceaseless ingratitude for spilled American blood is bad for Europe.

I'm not saying you should kiss the ground we walk upon, but maybe some mutual respect wouldn't hurt.

I completely agree with Malkyer. Ever since Iraq all I've basically heard from Europeans was in the order of "we want America to lose because America is evil." So fuck you.

To continue on your analogy, if you came to my front gate saying you want me to die, I'll shoot you -- with a non-lethal round, of course (such as a beanbag), but it will still hurt like hell.

Also, it almost seems like (correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm probably twisting your words), by your analogy, you think America is a young nation. Well we are, but it seems you're JEALOUS that a younger nation became better than you did in all of your existance (unless your British, in which case you don't like it that us gun-toting rednecks kicked your ass).

Not trying to make enemies, because Europe has some good stuff, and Europeans are overall fairly cool people. I just hate your governments and those that think America is the Great Satan.

Anyways, I digress.


What the hell is REACH? I went on some government site, and from what I gather, all it is is pork. (For those of you who read Jon Stewart's "America: The Book", you'll know what I'm talking about.)

I completely agree with Malkyer. Ever since Iraq all I've basically heard from Europeans was in the order of "we want America to lose because America is evil." So fuck you.

To continue on your analogy, if you came to my front gate saying you want me to die, I'll shoot you -- with a non-lethal round, of course (such as a beanbag), but it will still hurt like hell.

Also, it almost seems like (correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm probably twisting your words), by your analogy, you think America is a young nation. Well we are, but it seems you're JEALOUS that a younger nation became better than you did in all of your existance (unless your British, in which case you don't like it that us gun-toting rednecks kicked your ass).

Not trying to make enemies, because Europe has some good stuff, and Europeans are overall fairly cool people. I just hate your governments and those that think America is the Great Satan.

Anyways, I digress.


What the hell is REACH? I went on some government site, and from what I gather, all it is is pork. (For those of you who read Jon Stewart's "America: The Book", you'll know what I'm talking about.)


Nicely put. :)

I just dont see the point of Europe giving us advice on foreign policy. They sucked in colonial times. They sucked in moderntimes. France did a wonder with the ivory coast. And the way they handled Yugoslavia was genius. THey gave us vietnam and korea. I would say maybe they learned from their mistakes, butthen they make them all over again.

Nicely put. :)

Thank you! :)

[QUOTE=New Granada]America's hopelessly inept and awful use of its own power is a bad thing for america.QUOTE]

Europe's unfounded arrogance and ceaseless ingratitude for spilled American blood is bad for Europe.

I'm not saying you should kiss the ground we walk upon, but maybe some mutual respect wouldn't hurt.


I was born here where I live in Phoenix, Arizona.

I just dont see the point of Europe giving us advice on foreign policy. They sucked in colonial times. They sucked in moderntimes. France did a wonder with the ivory coast. And the way they handled Yugoslavia was genius. THey gave us vietnam and korea. I would say maybe they learned from their mistakes, butthen they make them all over again.

Meh. Not quite, but the first part I agree with.

I just dont see the point of Europe giving us advice on foreign policy. They sucked in colonial times. They sucked in moderntimes. France did a wonder with the ivory coast. And the way they handled Yugoslavia was genius. THey gave us vietnam and korea. I would say maybe they learned from their mistakes, butthen they make them all over again.

I have to correct a factual error.

Korea was not the Europeans' fault. A number of nations, namely the United States, Soviet Union, the "People's Republic" of China, and Japan were responsible for allowing the Korean War to happen.

Mostly the blame lies on America and Russia, for not working out a decent occupation/exit plan. China deserves its share too, as they encouraged and later aided the North Koreans. And if Japan hadn't conquered Korea in 1895, none of the other stuff would've mattered.

Sorry. My OCD took hold.

I was born here where I live in Phoenix, Arizona.

And that changes the truth of my statement how?

Nice work for the EU. Too bad the EPA has been stripped toothless here. And even the chemicals we got around to banning here are okay for US companies to sell abroad. Like they'll hurt us, but not somebody in a Third world country. By the way, I consider it patriotic to try to improve the way my country does things. There is a difference between patriotism and jingoism.

Oh, I have something to thank Europe for too!

I thank you for Techno AND Dragostea din tei!

And that changes the truth of my statement how?


The statement was mostly absurd to begin with.

The US didnt fight WW2 in europe out of simple generosity and good will.

Had europe fallen to the germans, the US would have fallen next.

Also bear in mind that japan declared war on us.


Additionally, respect is based upon the doing of respectable deeds.

America has lately been doing contemptable things, and has therefore earned not respect but contempt.

Oh, I forgot to add ... if you want to degenerate this into a "who's a patriot and who's not" or a "Europe vs. America" flamewar, be my guest.

I said my peace. I had no plans on justifying my stance.

Oh, I have something to thank Europe for too!

I thank you for Techno AND Dragostea din tei!


I saw the video for Dragostea din tei when I was in london for new years, at first i thought it was the most god awful annoying thing i'd seen in as long as i could remember, like gay romanian j-pop happy hardcore techno that sounded like gay italian techno.

Now I like it, and prior to hearing it I didnt know that Romanian had broad elements of Latin grammar.

So now i'm learning romanian.

Oh, I forgot to add ... if you want to degenerate this into a "who's a patriot and who's not" or a "Europe vs. America" flamewar, be my guest.

I said my peace. I had no plans on justifying my stance.


I'd actually much rather just talk about Dragostea din tei now that it has been mentioned.

I'd actually much rather just talk about Dragostea din tei now that it has been mentioned.


Works for me! :D

I hate Europeans and their stupid superioirty complex because their sex education is so much better than ours when not only is their tobacco education much worse but the only reason they seem better in sex ed is because they don't count their working class because they're technically not real citizens because they're from turkey...

Works for me! :D

Heres the (un)offical music video for it :D

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/numanuma.html

Well, I might as well thank Europe for something too.......

I thank the Nation of Fr*nce (;)) for fancy alchohol.

I thank Germany for Heckler and Koch, and sausage, and beer.

I thank Britain for our independence.

I thank Italy for cars.

I thank Poland for....well, nothing, actually, as you should be part of Germany.

I thank Russia for your pushing the US to be the most powerful nation in the world, and for vodka.

I thank Spain for bullfights.

I thank Belgum for Fr*nch toast, Fr*nch fries, and Belgum Waffles.

I thank Switzerland for chocolate, cheese, and the banks that are hiding my milli----wait, you didn't hear that.

And I thank Vatican City for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Now that that's out of the way, fuck the rest of you. ;)

Just kidding. Except for a few of you. You know who you are. :)

I hate Europeans and their stupid superioirty complex because their sex education is so much better than ours when not only is their tobacco education much worse but the only reason they seem better in sex ed is because they don't count their working class because they're technically not real citizens because they're from turkey...


When they invented writing, they came up with something called "Punctuation".

Heres the (un)offical music video for it :D

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/numanuma.html


Have you seen the real video though? where they ride on the airplane?

Well, I might as well thank Europe for something too.......

I thank the Nation of Fr*nce (;)) for fancy alchohol.

I thank Germany for Heckler and Koch, and sausage, and beer.

I thank Britain for our independence.

I thank Italy for cars.

I thank Poland for....well, nothing, actually, as you should be part of Germany.

I thank Russia for your pushing the US to be the most powerful nation in the world, and for vodka.

I thank Spain for bullfights.

I thank Belgum for Fr*nch toast, Fr*nch fries, and Belgum Waffles.

I thank Switzerland for chocolate, cheese, and the banks that are hiding my milli----wait, you didn't hear that.

And I thank Vatican City for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Now that that's out of the way, fuck the rest of you. ;)

Just kidding. Except for a few of you. You know who you are. :)

Hey! :(

Anyhoo, you forgot Romania for Dragostea din tei!

When they invented writing, they came up with something called "Punctuation".

Sumerians invented writing. Phoenecians invented the alphabet.

You're wrong. :P

Have you seen the real video though? where they ride on the airplane?

But this one is so much better!

I have to correct a factual error.

Korea was not the Europeans' fault. A number of nations, namely the United States, Soviet Union, the "People's Republic" of China, and Japan were responsible for allowing the Korean War to happen.

Mostly the blame lies on America and Russia, for not working out a decent occupation/exit plan. China deserves its share too, as they encouraged and later aided the North Koreans. And if Japan hadn't conquered Korea in 1895, none of the other stuff would've mattered.

Sorry. My OCD took hold.

lol i totally understand. thanks for the rebuttal

The statement was mostly absurd to begin with.

The US didnt fight WW2 in europe out of simple generosity and good will.

Had europe fallen to the germans, the US would have fallen next.

Also bear in mind that japan declared war on us.


Additionally, respect is based upon the doing of respectable deeds.

America has lately been doing contemptable things, and has therefore earned not respect but contempt.

The United States, until attacked by Japan in 1941, maintained a successful neutrality in the conflict. The war with Japan was in response to a direct attack on our soil. As for generosity...without American weapons and materiel, Britain and the USSR would have fallen by mid-1942.

America would not have fallen to the Nazis. Germany was simply incapable of attacking the US mainland. They could not project forces very far outside Europe. In fact, Hitler's aim was never world domination, but rather control of Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, with Siberia and Western Europe acting autonomously under an umbrella of German power; a situation similar to Rome's empire and its various dependent states.

Respect is indeed won by doing respectable things. How is liberating a country of 26 million from a murderous dictator not a respectable thing? I'm sure history will judge that what we did was right.

Speaking of respectable things, in 1861 Britain and France called the United States "hypocrital" for fighting to keep the southern States in the Union. Their logic made sense: a nation founded on revolution was surpressing the revolution of others. However, I doubt you will find many people (outside of the deep, deep, deep South) who argue that fighting the Civil War was wrong.

Respect is not defined by doing the popular thing. It is earned by doing what is right.

Hey! :(

Anyhoo, you forgot Romania for Dragostea din tei!

Never heard/saw it.

I, personally, on behalf of the truly patriotic Americans (yes, there are still 6 or 7 of us), would like to thank Europe for REACH and extend my hopes that they continue such endeavors to protect not only themselves, but the world, as you grow to become an econimic super power.

I would like to thank you for showing the US that we cannot just run rampant, willy-nilly, with impunity around the globe.

Yes, I am serious. This is not sarcasm. I am glad to see a growing economic power that does not cow to the US and isn't afraid to dole out spankings if needed.

Thanks, Europe! :)

Note: If you don't know what REACH is or don't know its affects on US industry, look it up. If you're too stupid to pay attention to global news instead of just local drivel, then I'm not wasting my time explaining it to you.
Perhaps suprisingly enough, I tend to agree with this. Any superpower ( and I DO mean "any!" ) needs other power centers to keep it honest. Stick up for what you ( as a group ) believe in and don't hesitate to hold our feet to the fire when such is called for. Um ... just don't expect us to like it! :D

BTW ... my hearty congratulations to the European Space Agency's spectacular success with the Huygens probe! C'est bon ( ? )! ( I would try to say "good job" in other Eurpoean languages, but sadly my vocabulary is lacking. )

Sumerians invented writing. Phoenecians invented the alphabet.

You're wrong. :P

Oh yeah, heh heh.

But still, they still invented punctuation.

Note: If you don't know what REACH is or don't know its affects on US industry, look it up. If you're too stupid to pay attention to global news instead of just local drivel, then I'm not wasting my time explaining it to you.
Borderline trolling.

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