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You all have been zapped! By Chapelle!

I am against the war 100%, which you could find in other threads.

PS, I am Kramers Intern. If you remember him, yeah, he is anti-war, I was barred from the boards.

I was using by debating skills to see how well I could debate for a cause I dont believe in.

Do you know what I dont get? Why dont people support the Iraq war? I know there are no terrorists or WMDs there, I support it because they had an evil dictator.

This is a guy who killed and tortured his own people, ever heard of the Kurds? We the US the most powerful nation on the face of the earth, have a responsibility. That is to help out nations less fortunate than our own. Should we really just stand around while people are being abbused and tortured? Yeah, sure, that would be the easy thing to do. But what is the right thing? Ok, people have been killed by the US and others, but its been about 10-13,000. How many were killed by Saddam? A few hundred thousand.

After the Soviets broke up, we were the last Superpower, we had to use that power to help the rest of the world, sorry if you think we just sit around and worry about ourselves but this war a defenit necesity.

I do think it could use some better planning and more armor. But I am behind the theory of the Iraq war 100%!
So why don't you go into other dictatorships, like Zimbawbray, stop the genocide in Rawander, stop the fighting in the DRC? Of course, they don't have oil?

Your support and endorsement makes me feel warm and fuzzy. :)

Wait, that's my blanket... nevermind.

A well reasoned and rational argument. I'm convinced. I now support the Iraq war. I also support invading some other countries. Let's start with Saudi Arabia. They lack religious freedom, spawn terrorists, and violate human rights. Let's invade them, send in some missionaries to teach them religious tolerance, and occupy them for a while so we can install a Jeffersonian democracy. We might need a draft, but it's a small sacrifice to pay.

Oh, and most people put civillian casultys at at least 20,000 I think about 60,000 some think it's aroound 100,000. Acording to Iraq body count.net it's between 15365 and 17582, I balive thats very conservtive, considering Flaujia.

So why don't you go into other dictatorships, like Zimbawbray, stop the genocide in Rawander, stop the fighting in the DRC? Of course, they don't have oil?
Stay out of Zimbabwe. Robert Mugabe has the situation under control. Your imperialist troops aren't needed.

So why don't you go into other dictatorships, like Zimbawbray, stop the genocide in Rawander, stop the fighting in the DRC? Of course, they don't have oil?

Maybe we're killing two birds with one stone. See, while I said there were no terrorists in Iraq, others came to Iraq from Syria, so we can take down the dictator, and kill a few Al-Quiedans.

A well reasoned and rational argument. I'm convinced. I now support the Iraq war. I also support invading some other countries. Let's start with Saudi Arabia. They lack religious freedom, spawn terrorists, and violate human rights. Let's invade them, send in some missionaries to teach them religious tolerance, and occupy them for a while so we can install a Jeffersonian democracy. We might need a draft, but it's a small sacrifice to pay.
oh, yeah, I forgot about them why not get them? Oh, i rember they don't stand up to you do they.

Do you know what I dont get? Why dont people support the Iraq war? I know there are no terrorists or WMDs there, I support it because they had an evil dictator.
I know...but you also helped him gain power in the first place...makes the rest of us suspect your motives when he stops playing fetch for you and then you take him out....

This is a guy who killed and tortured his own people, ever heard of the Kurds?
Yet you support Turkey, who also persecutes the Kurds...

We the US the most powerful nation on the face of the earth, have a responsibility. That is to help out nations less fortunate than our own. Should we really just stand around while people are being abbused and tortured? Yeah, sure, that would be the easy thing to do. But what is the right thing?
The right thing is to intervene...but have some consistency...if you really feel this is your duty, try to protect as many people as possible...not just those in areas you think are more important. And please keep God out of it...the last thing we need is another holy war (referring to the "God is on our side" quote of Bush that I just can't reference, but hey, we all heard it!)

Ok, people have been killed by the US and others, but its been about 10-13,000.
Hmmmm....I would like to dispute that...since you label U.S and others...what time frame are we talking here, because it should be more in the millions. Are you factoring in regimes backed by the CIA that murdered thousands? Because then you got some serious numbers....you'd better clarify this and provide some facts to back you up on such a low number.

After the Soviets broke up, we were the last Superpower, we had to use that power to help the rest of the world, sorry if you think we just sit around and worry about ourselves but this war a defenit necesity.
I'm glad you think so. Aren't there any other necessary wars you should be running off to? Like in the Sudan, maybe?

I do think it could use some better planning and more armor. But I am behind the theory of the Iraq war 100%!
I love percentages....so when are you joining the forces? Or is it that you will remain BEHIND while your soldiers die?

Do you know what I dont get? Why dont people support the Iraq war? I know there are no terrorists or WMDs there, I support it because they had an evil dictator.

This is a guy who killed and tortured his own people, ever heard of the Kurds? We the US the most powerful nation on the face of the earth, have a responsibility. That is to help out nations less fortunate than our own. Should we really just stand around while people are being abbused and tortured? Yeah, sure, that would be the easy thing to do. But what is the right thing? Ok, people have been killed by the US and others, but its been about 10-13,000. How many were killed by Saddam? A few hundred thousand.

After the Soviets broke up, we were the last Superpower, we had to use that power to help the rest of the world, sorry if you think we just sit around and worry about ourselves but this war a defenit necesity.

I do think it could use some better planning and more armor. But I am behind the theory of the Iraq war 100%!


The problem is that we didnt need to turn iraq into a hellhole and a warzone and wreck it for a generation to put saddam hussein out of power, we could have done that by killing him or applying other pressures.

There have been much worse atrocities committed in the last fifteen years than those by saddam hussein. A striking example is that of the genocide in rwanda.

A well reasoned and rational argument. I'm convinced. I now support the Iraq war. I also support invading some other countries. Let's start with Saudi Arabia. They lack religious freedom, spawn terrorists, and violate human rights. Let's invade them, send in some missionaries to teach them religious tolerance, and occupy them for a while so we can install a Jeffersonian democracy. We might need a draft, but it's a small sacrifice to pay.

Haha, if we invaded Saudi Arabia we would have the shit bombed out of us. Think remember what happened during 9/11? That was because the US had military structures in Islamic "holy land" even though there govt. invited us there to help them keep stuff under control. So it wasnt our fault.

Maybe we're killing two birds with one stone. See, while I said there were no terrorists in Iraq, others came to Iraq from Syria, so we can take down the dictator, and kill a few Al-Quiedans.
The most recent report I saw was that most insergants where Iraqies, who, strangly enough, don't like there country being invaded and a puppet goverment being put in place. Strange that. Oh, and they don't like you killing people who they see as innocents.

Yes, there are some foregn fighters, I think they are in minority.

I know...but you also helped him gain power in the first place...makes the rest of us suspect your motives when he stops playing fetch for you and then you take him out....


Yet you support Turkey, who also persecutes the Kurds...


The right thing is to intervene...but have some consistency...if you really feel this is your duty, try to protect as many people as possible...not just those in areas you think are more important. And please keep God out of it...the last thing we need is another holy war (referring to the "God is on our side" quote of Bush that I just can't reference, but hey, we all heard it!)


Hmmmm....I would like to dispute that...since you label U.S and others...what time frame are we talking here, because it should be more in the millions. Are you factoring in regimes backed by the CIA that murdered thousands? Because then you got some serious numbers....you'd better clarify this and provide some facts to back you up on such a low number.


I'm glad you think so. Aren't there any other necessary wars you should be running off to? Like in the Sudan, maybe?


I love percentages....so when are you joining the forces? Or is it that you will remain BEHIND while your soldiers die?

I am unable to join the army because I am blind in my left eye.

Because we know it's a lie?

America has propped up dictators and tyrants when it served our purposes. This is no different.

Do you know what I dont get? Why dont people support the Iraq war? I know there are no terrorists or WMDs there, I support it because they had an evil dictator.

This is a guy who killed and tortured his own people, ever heard of the Kurds? We the US the most powerful nation on the face of the earth, have a responsibility. That is to help out nations less fortunate than our own. Should we really just stand around while people are being abbused and tortured? Yeah, sure, that would be the easy thing to do. But what is the right thing? Ok, people have been killed by the US and others, but its been about 10-13,000. How many were killed by Saddam? A few hundred thousand.

After the Soviets broke up, we were the last Superpower, we had to use that power to help the rest of the world, sorry if you think we just sit around and worry about ourselves but this war a defenit necesity.

I do think it could use some better planning and more armor. But I am behind the theory of the Iraq war 100%!

Let me draw up a nice long list of countries in similar situations... actually, I'd rather let you do your own homework.

Haha, if we invaded Saudi Arabia we would have the shit bombed out of us. Think remember what happened during 9/11? That was because the US had military structures in Islamic "holy land" even though there govt. invited us there to help them keep stuff under control. So it wasnt our fault.
It's a small price to pay to liberate Mecca and Medina. I'd like to attend church services in Mecca one day.

Haha, if we invaded Saudi Arabia we would have the shit bombed out of us. Think remember what happened during 9/11? That was because the US had military structures in Islamic "holy land" even though there govt. invited us there to help them keep stuff under control. So it wasnt our fault.
Oh...so you'll only intervene when the opposing army has already been demoralised, the economy destroyed and the infrastructure deteriorated into nothingness after a decade of sanctions....

You're so tough! Go America, Go!

Haha, if we invaded Saudi Arabia we would have the shit bombed out of us. Think remember what happened during 9/11? That was because the US had military structures in Islamic "holy land" even though there govt. invited us there to help them keep stuff under control. So it wasnt our fault.
And your not having the s**t bombed out of you now?

I am unable to join the army because I am blind in my left eye.
Well I wouldn't let that stop me if I was feeling 100%! Go over there anyway on your own money and let all hell break loose! Seriously...I'll take up a collection for you!

You all have been zapped! By Chapelle!

I am against the war 100%, which you could find in other threads.

PS, I am Kramers Intern. If you remember him, yeah, he is anti-war, I was barred from the boards.

I was using by debating skills to see how well I could debate for a cause I dont believe in.

You all have been zapped! By Chapelle!

I am against the war 100%, which you could find in other threads.

PS, I am Kramers Intern. If you remember him, yeah, he is anti-war, I was barred from the boards.

I was using by debating skills to see how well I could debate for a cause I dont believe in.
;) Yeah, I balive you,

Can't take the flack eh.

You all have been zapped! By Chapelle!

I am against the war 100%, which you could find in other threads.

PS, I am Kramers Intern. If you remember him, yeah, he is anti-war, I was barred from the boards.

I was using by debating skills to see how well I could debate for a cause I dont believe in.
Wow, how counterproductive of you. You've convinced me that the Iraq war was a good idea, and I was originally against it.

You all have been zapped! By Chapelle!

I am against the war 100%, which you could find in other threads.

PS, I am Kramers Intern. If you remember him, yeah, he is anti-war, I was barred from the boards.

I was using by debating skills to see how well I could debate for a cause I dont believe in.
You should have told us about how your pro-war stance came to you from a Van Halen guitar solo.

It's a small price to pay to liberate Mecca and Medina. I'd like to attend church services in Mecca one day.
Screw that...we could take over and charge a toll fee to get in...could you imagine the riches? Every muslim is obligated to visit Mecca at least once in their life....it'd be champagne and cavier for us you drunken commie sot! :D

And your not having the s**t bombed out of you now?

First of all I was talking about here in the US, like a 2nd 9/11, only worse.

Second of all, look at the first post again, it is edited, than reflect and soak it all in.

You all have been zapped! By Chapelle!

I am against the war 100%, which you could find in other threads.

PS, I am Kramers Intern. If you remember him, yeah, he is anti-war, I was barred from the boards.

I was using by debating skills to see how well I could debate for a cause I dont believe in.
Not too well, I'd say...how's your eye?

You know, if you stop poking it, it stops hurting...

Wow, how counterproductive of you. You've convinced me that the Iraq war was a good idea, and I was originally against it.
I had my guns out and everthing! Meccccccaaaaaaaaaaa!

Screw that...we could take over and charge a toll fee to get in...could you imagine the riches? Every muslim is obligated to visit Mecca at least once in their life....it'd be champagne and cavier for us you drunken commie sot! :D

One day I am going into Mecca. I know its banned for us outsiders, so its going to same some research, a tanning bed :D A robe, some white cloth, a good beard, language lessons, and prayer session.

Screw that...we could take over and charge a toll fee to get in...could you imagine the riches? Every muslim is obligated to visit Mecca at least once in their life....it'd be champagne and cavier for us you drunken commie sot! :D
We could charge the muslims and the christians admission. Just build a church on top of the kabba and set up an escalator to get to it. Champagne wishes and Caviar dreams.

One day I am going into Mecca. I know its banned for us outsiders, so its going to same some research, a tanning bed :D A robe, some white cloth, a good beard, language lessons, and prayer session.
Dummy...you don't have to be Arab...you just have to be muslim! Even a white, English speaking muslim.

Sheesh...bit time research needed.

Now shut up and pay our toll.

Wow, how counterproductive of you. You've convinced me that the Iraq war was a good idea, and I was originally against it.

Wait are you serious? I convinced you? And my heart wasnt even in it!

Now I know why Bush won.

Wow. Are you against it again?

We could charge the muslims and the christians admission. Just build a church on top of the kabba and set up an escalator to get to it. Champagne wishes and Caviar dreams.
While we're at it, let's take over Vatican city, embalm the pope like Lenin and charge a fee to come see him!

It's all becoming so clear...

Dummy...you don't have to be Arab...you just have to be muslim! Even a white, English speaking muslim.

Sheesh...bit time research needed.

Now shut up and pay our toll.

Yeah but being tanned and robish could help.

Really? I thought you had to be arabic, you could just lie to get in otherwise. No I think you have to be arab.

Wait are you serious? I convinced you? And my heart wasnt even in it!

Now I know why Bush won.

Wow. Are you against it again?
Not unless you can produce another eloquent post to sway me. I remain firmly in support of the Iraq war and the invasion of Saudi Arabia for the purposes of selling Mecca to Disney in exchange for a huge wad of Disney stock.

Yeah but being tanned and robish could help.

Really? I thought you had to be arabic, you could just lie to get in otherwise. No I think you have to be arab.
Well I think Cheez Whiz is an abomination, but lots of people like it.

No really...JUST muslim...plenty of Arabs are Christians or other faiths, and they don't get in either.

But go hard with the robes....just PAY THE DAMN TOLL!

While we're at it, let's take over Vatican city, embalm the pope like Lenin and charge a fee to come see him!

It's all becoming so clear...
Now you're thinking.

*Looks at edited first post, Remians uncovinced.*

if there is no financial gain in an effort to be involved in a foreign affair, the U.S. will not go in and do nething about it. Humanitarian aid is on the low of the totem pole compared to financial gain, we must get money from being involved in foreign problems and conflicts to better our economy.

Wait are you serious? I convinced you? And my heart wasnt even in it!

Now I know why Bush won.

Wow. Are you against it again?
Yep, He's serious. He's also George Bush's Illigetmet son.

*Looks at edited first post, Remians uncovinced.*

No seriously, I hate this war, I think it has made America look arrogant.

if there is no financial gain in an effort to be involved in a foreign affair, the U.S. will not go in and do nething about it. Humanitarian aid is on the low of the totem pole compared to financial gain, we must get money from being involved in foreign problems and conflicts to better our economy.
Duh, thats why we're building MeccaDisney.

No seriously, I hate this war, I think it has made America look arrogant.
It's made me turn on Blair certainly, I havn't turned on America, just the goverment and your corprate systems.