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43 high school kids were arressted, expelled or suspended from our local high school. They brought a police dog in and surched every locker they found a variety of drugs, alchol, pipes, lighters, cigarrets, beer bottle caps, and other things.


Do you think its right to just expell a kid who obviuosly has a problem providing no help what so ever allowing them more time to go do all of this and forgetting about them until next school year?

43 high school kids were arressted, expelled or suspended from our local high school. They brought a police dog in and surched every locker they found a variety of drugs, alchol, pipes, lighters, cigarrets, beer bottle caps, and other things.


Do you think its right to just expell a kid who obviuosly has a problem providing no help what so ever allowing them more time to go do all of this and forgetting about them until next school year?

can i be the first to say:

no

I truly think they should offer some sort of help for the kids who obviously have this problem insted of getting rid of them and allowing them to have more time to f**k up

43 high school kids were arressted, expelled or suspended from our local high school. They brought a police dog in and surched every locker they found a variety of drugs, alchol, pipes, lighters, cigarrets, beer bottle caps, and other things.


Do you think its right to just expell a kid who obviuosly has a problem providing no help what so ever allowing them more time to go do all of this and forgetting about them until next school year?
The department of education should definately have some type of drug treatment program. High school is way too early to give up on somebody with a drug problem.

definatly I looked into it and studies show most kids dont even come back the next year. and its not like the school goes to check on them when the expullsion time is up!

i was there watching the dogs. it was so crazy. expelling a kid will not help trust me i know alot of them that have been and they are not striaghting out.

I know deven isnt that little freshmen that had an ounce on him! My heart stoped when he stoped at Jackies locker! I thought I would die but nothing was in there thank god.

Where, exactly, did this happen?

If 43 kids were busted all at once, then it probably made the news somewhere. There might be a news report about this on the World Wide Web.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Little old Klamath Falls, Oregon but I havent even seen it in our local news yet so im not sure the news has got wind of it yet. It's Mazama High School

Do you think its right to just expell a kid who obviuosly has a problem providing no help what so ever allowing them more time to go do all of this and forgetting about them until next school year?

No. On the other hand, they weren't very intelligent for keeping that stuff in their lockers, rather than at home, so they probably weren't doing very well in their studies anyway.

yes but now the school knows why and they could offer some help insted they just get rid of them and wash their hands clean!

43 high school kids were arressted, expelled or suspended from our local high school. They brought a police dog in and surched every locker they found a variety of drugs, alchol, pipes, lighters, cigarrets, beer bottle caps, and other things.


Do you think its right to just expell a kid who obviuosly has a problem providing no help what so ever allowing them more time to go do all of this and forgetting about them until next school year?

its the American way....

hey not all americans are this way.

yes but now the school knows why and they could offer some help insted they just get rid of them and wash their hands clean!

Well, I don't know....I did a lot of that stuff during high-school and I still managed to get decent marks and go on to university. I also wasn't dumb enough to leave crap like that in my locker, so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy.

No. On the other hand, they weren't very intelligent for keeping that stuff in their lockers, rather than at home, so they probably weren't doing very well in their studies anyway.

If the school never had searches, I wouldn't consider it too stupid to keep drugs at school, although I wouldn't do it. We now have biannual drug searches, and kids caught during those are the idiots, although just because they are idiots doesn’t mean the school should just expel them and give up on them. Not only that, but before our first drug search ever, they warned us first. Great planning there.

well they dont tell us at all we just see it happen and becauseit is teens it doesntmakethenews

I like King's point.

Yeah, i'll concede. They should be offered help instead of being expelled.

though why they need that stuff in their lockers is still beyond me.

I feel the school has no responsibility for these kids they made a stupid choice and now they have to live with the results of that choice. Remember they can always come back next year if they don't that's their choice....

on question.... what is the penalty for possession of drugs or drug related paraphernalia in Oregon.

Here in Nevada any of those kids caught with drugs would have been going with the police as its a automatic Felony.

I would say expulsion is a bit much for a first offense. If they had been caught with drugs several times before it might be a different matter, or if they were selling instead of merely having them for personal use. As it is, a suspension until they get some sort of drug counseling would be a good idea. The parents of course need to take action about these kinds of things too.

I feel the school has no responsibility for these kids they made a stupid choice and now they have to live with the results of that choice. Remember they can always come back next year if they don't that's their choice....

on question.... what is the penalty for possession of drugs or drug related paraphernalia in Oregon.

Here in Nevada any of those kids caught with drugs would have been going with the police as its a automatic Felony.
Sure, because an education is much less desirable than a nasty encounter with the legal system. When they are convicted felons they can go on to a successful career running a meth lab.

I'd say expulsion is somewhat overkill, but I mean, how incredibly retarded do you have to be to leave that sort of stuff in your locker?

I mean, if the school tells you not to bring something to school you typically shouldn't. Like, don't bring a gun to school, that's not a good idea, and very few people challenge that. It just makes sense to me, but then again I never even got so much as a detention during high school...

well Im pretty sure theirs a certain amount you have to have to get a felony. but no matter how much they had on them they were taken straight to JDH and booked either until their parents came to get them or other accomadations were made but alot of those kids were already on probation. The kid who started it had an ounce on him and he just got put on probation for an alchol related problem he had (wich unfortunatly involved my younger brother) anyways he is only a freshmen! Can you believe how hard his life is going to be now!

Wait a sec.


43 high school kids were arressted, expelled or suspended from our local high school. They brought a police dog in and surched every locker they found a variety of drugs, alchol, pipes, lighters, cigarrets, beer bottle caps, and other things.

They're expelling kids for having beer bottle caps?

no I said expelled or suspended and those ones were suspended. but that was only 7 of them the rest were expelled.

hey not all americans are this way.

My comment is more to do with the complete over-reaction to drugs in the US....War on Drugs anyone?

well it is pretty bad here though we're catching std's from drug use, and then there are all those innocent kids whose parents have messed up their lives and the kids have to deal w/ the conseqence's. It really need's to be helped, I myself have no problem with weed and stuff but hevy drugs like meth and heroin, and others are getting out of control!

They're expelling kids for having beer bottle caps?
Probably on the assumption that they had beer bottles, and therefore beer, at some point. It's the "Where there's smoke, there's fire." line of reasoning.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."

The kids who had just the caps got suspended for 2 weeks the rest of them were expelled

The thought of the authorities invading the privacy of citizens is, at worst, a tragedy of the result of power. But another tragedy is the fact that these drugged out kids are missing out on the opportunity to gain some knowledge. The local High School should be reprimanded for not teaching the children how to spell and express themselves properly. There is the real crime!

arressted, surched, alchol, cigarrets - Shameful Education system shameful!!

I know how to spell all of that thank you but I just dont take the time to spell chack every post I have.

The thought of the authorities invading the privacy of citizens is, at worst, a tragedy of the result of power. But another tragedy is the fact that these drugged out kids are missing out on the opportunity to gain some knowledge. The local High School should be reprimanded for not teaching the children how to spell and express themselves properly. There is the real crime!

arressted, surched, alchol, cigarrets - Shameful Education system shameful!!
...How old are you?



You have no (no) rights at school if they intefere with the purpose of the school. Sorry.

I think there's no point in having a meeting or even a 'help system' put up by the board of education to help the people using drugs. I mean, for dangerous ones such as cocaine, heroin and those others, alright, but the high school students probably had hash or weed on them when they got caught. The sort of people who do softer drugs such as weed etc... don't really grasp the gravity of there situation and a seminar about drugs only makes them laugh or leaves them indifferent. At least, that is the personal experience of friends and I.
However, i am strongly against bringing dogs into a high school and searching lockers, for me, it's invasion of private life, school is like a second home for kids, no1 should be aloud to search them inside, at least, no cops.

that is very true you arent allowed to defend your self at all it is a disruption you are expected to sit there and roll with the punches so to speak.

43 high school kids were arressted, expelled or suspended from our local high school. They brought a police dog in and surched every locker they found a variety of drugs, alchol, pipes, lighters, cigarrets, beer bottle caps, and other things.


Do you think its right to just expell a kid who obviuosly has a problem providing no help what so ever allowing them more time to go do all of this and forgetting about them until next school year?
the govewrnment doesnt give a fuck about drug users, they jsut want to stick them in jail as long as possible to make it look like they are morally better and tough on drugs

The thought of the authorities invading the privacy of citizens is, at worst, a tragedy of the result of power. But another tragedy is the fact that these drugged out kids are missing out on the opportunity to gain some knowledge. The local High School should be reprimanded for not teaching the children how to spell and express themselves properly. There is the real crime!

arressted, surched, alchol, cigarrets - Shameful Education system shameful!!

I want to point out that you misspelled arrested searched alcohol and cigarettes … I hope that that was just a joke that you failed to make funny.

Personally I do not feel that it is the job of the SCHOOL (notice school … I do not mean government or anything besides school) to put these kids through therapy to help. They chose to break the rules (and if you contend that drugs are bad and addictive and it was not a choice then that proves that they are bad and do not belong in an educational institution)

Whether hard or not that is life

Dear Nations,

I am against having young highschool students with drugs and etc... Althoufgt it tis there personel choice . But i think they should make a law about this subject . There should identification needed . Although in some states there are already laws .But that doesn't mean that they can't buy them . There should be a law against buying it under the age of 21 years and photo identidification needed. [COLOR=Red]TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION !!!!!!!
DUGS ARE BAD :gundge: : :mad: :


Greecelot

Well, I don't know....I did a lot of that stuff during high-school and I still managed to get decent marks and go on to university. I also wasn't dumb enough to leave crap like that in my locker, so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy.


I totally agree.

The whole war on drugs is stupid. It should be treated as a public health problem, not a criminal problem.

I think there's no point in having a meeting or even a 'help system' put up by the board of education to help the people using drugs. I mean, for dangerous ones such as cocaine, heroin and those others, alright, but the high school students probably had hash or weed on them when they got caught. The sort of people who do softer drugs such as weed etc... don't really grasp the gravity of there situation and a seminar about drugs only makes them laugh or leaves them indifferent. At least, that is the personal experience of friends and I.
However, i am strongly against bringing dogs into a high school and searching lockers, for me, it's invasion of private life, school is like a second home for kids, no1 should be aloud to search them inside, at least, no cops.
You are underage you have no privacy rights even at home. That’s how life works … these people are responsible for your health while you are at their facilities … they are responsible for your wellbeing.

I bet if you got hurt taking drugs in school the school would be one of the first people sued (and rightfully) because the are RESPONSIBLE for you

the govewrnment doesnt give a fuck about drug users, they jsut want to stick them in jail as long as possible to make it look like they are morally better and tough on drugs
No, it's not about looking good. That's just a side benefit. It's about making jobs for prison guards, collecting fines, using prisoners as cheap labor, and giving private companies fat contracts to run prisons and prison commissary services.

The whole war on drugs is stupid. It should be treated as a public health problem, not a criminal problem.
Where's the profit in that?

I still feel very strongly about having some kind of help system for these children. Some of them dont have parents who could care less and so those children will not get the help they need. I dont believe in giving up on a child. They obviously arnet ready to be out on there own yet so why just get rid of them like they were an adult who has to make their own choices now?

what pisses me off is that we have none or very little of our rights as US citizens. it is fucked. :upyours: school asses well the roxburry is right there should be something else for these kids.