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Well, I was watching the O'Reilly Factor today, and I noticed that he mentioned that Fox News is finally in Canada. So all ye Canadians, what do you think? I know you've heard a lot of bad stuff about it before from the media, but what's your first hand take?

At least I don't have to pay for that crap, and anyone who does, is mentally ill! (it'll be available on digital cable and not regular from what I know). It'll add to the subtle nuances that CBA news and ABC already do - NOTHING.

Look, I don't want this to turn into a "every body hates Fox" thread. I want to see what Canadians think. And no, I'm not mentally ill.

We have it on regular cable in Australia. It's my favourite satirical political comedy channel.

You'd have to be to pay extra for what - yet another all-news channel? How many of those do we already have here? 6? 7? And two or three of THOSE are actually worthwhile news outlets, not official/unofficial mouth organs of the Shrub administration.

If market forces truly dictate what stays on air, I give FoxNews two years or less before they vacate Canadian airwaves. I know I won't be plunking down any extra cash for this. Anyone else feel the same?

My god, they have gone into Canada! Run...Run!

I get all my news from a healthy combo of CNN when i'm bored and CBC every night at 10.

My god, they have gone into Canada! Run...Run!
Too ba we couldn't have a FOXNews ban like the Americans have a beef ban... :D

fox news would be improved by strippers.

You should feel lucky. It's fair and balanced.

Well, I was watching the O'Reilly Factor today, and I noticed that he mentioned that Fox News is finally in Canada. So all ye Canadians, what do you think? I know you've heard a lot of bad stuff about it before from the media, but what's your first hand take?

I'll probably have a look. I need a laugh.

You should feel lucky. It's fair and balanced.
:eek: I should hope you're being sarcastic!

You'd have to be to pay extra for what - yet another all-news channel? How many of those do we already have here? 6? 7? And two or three of THOSE are actually worthwhile news outlets, not official/unofficial mouth organs of the Shrub administration.

If market forces truly dictate what stays on air, I give FoxNews two years or less before they vacate Canadian airwaves. I know I won't be plunking down any extra cash for this. Anyone else feel the same?

I think it's going to be on basic cable. I sure as hell wouldn't want it if it were on digital cable. Why pay for what you get on CNN, CBC, MSNBC, whatever for free?

Guys, watch it first, before mouthing off what every 13 year old on the internet says.

We have it on regular cable in Australia. It's my favourite satirical political comedy channel.
How the hell is it satire? I mean, Bill may crack a joke once or twice, but still...

I love FoxNews and I am a canadian. There ignorance of Canada is amazing and quite amusing. I go on the website almost daily. I don't think I'll waste my money on buying the station for cable though. I look forward to Foxnews in being chided by canadians as is occasionaly the case on CNN. FoxNews is truly entertaining.

Guys, watch it first, before mouthing off what every 13 year old on the internet says.

I'm not 13 :p

I would rate FOX as SPAM entertainment! As with Commericals & other News programs I try to avoid & just enjoy the Movies as best I can. NEWS is someones interpritation of what we should here with commericals!

Lord VTG

I'm not 13 :p
Yeah, but you're saying copying the standard 13 year old line. (Fox sucks! They're Bush's cronies! No, I've never actually watched it...)

I personally like it when Neil Cavuto "Your World" program has Victoria Secret Supermodels modeling their stuff on the runway.. Very nice indeed! Plus I wish Fox News made a Calendar of Hot Fox Babes!

Yeah, but you're saying copying the standard 13 year old line. (Fox sucks! They're Bush's cronies! No, I've never actually watched it...)

I have watched it, and compared with our news-sources, it is incredibly biased (though also thoroughly entertaining)

"Those protesters were blocking traffic!!! They had to be roughed up!!!"

(actual quote)

Guys, watch it first, before mouthing off what every 13 year old on the internet says.

Maybe 13-year-olds have a better sense of discernment than you're willing to give them credit for...

My ass it was a quote. I've watched it for YEARS, and there ain't been nothing even close to that there. You just think it's biased because the media you believe is normal is actually biased to the left. Now, let's get back to the original issue. What do Canadians think?

Maybe 13-year-olds have a better sense of discernment than you're willing to give them credit for...
They don't, since they ignore facts and spout the popular line before even WATCHING Fox news.

The Blight is spreading...

My ass it was a quote. I've watched it for YEARS, and there ain't been nothing even close to that there. You just think it's biased because the media you believe is normal is actually biased to the left. Now, let's get back to the original issue. What do Canadians think?

Well, you're HEARING what Canadians think, it's just that you're choosing not to LISTEN, apparently.

My ass it was a quote. I've watched it for YEARS, and there ain't been nothing even close to that there. You just think it's biased because the media you believe is normal is actually biased to the left.

Bullshit. It was regarding anti-war protests just after the war on Iraq began (or perhaps slightly before). I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.

The media I watch isn't biased towards anything. It's about 50-50, despite what extremists on both sides say. The newspapers I read are biased towards the right, but nowhere near as bad as Fox. Though i'll grant that they're mostly all owned by the same guy.

I am listening. It's just that I don't want this to devolve into an argument on its merits.

They don't, since they ignore facts and spout the popular line before even WATCHING Fox news.

And of course, you're not just grossly oversimplifying matters to suit your point of view.

Bullshit. It was regarding anti-war protests just after the war on Iraq began (or perhaps slightly before). I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.

The media I watch isn't biased towards anything. It's about 50-50, despite what extremists on both sides say. The newspapers I read are biased towards the right, but nowhere near as bad as Fox. Though i'll grant that they're mostly all owned by the same guy.
What newspaper does one find that are biased to the right, besides the Wall Street Journal? You do realize that 89% of newspaper editors are liberal...

And of course, you're not just grossly oversimplifying matters to suit your point of view.
I'm not. Are you defending thirteen year olds on the internet? Blasphemer!

I am listening. It's just that I don't want this to devolve into an argument on its merits.

I've given my opinion - that left purely to market forces, it will fail. There simply isn't an audience large enough to support it. That would be true of any far-right wing media outlet operating in Canada, though - not just of FoxNews.

Canadians like news - not partisan blather or entertainment disguised as news - but real news and investigative journalism. FoxNews isn't news.

I don't see a viable market for it here.

What newspaper does one find that are biased to the right, besides the Wall Street Journal? You do realize that 89% of newspaper editors are liberal...

The Herald Sun. The articles themselves aren't usually *terrible* despite one that called the Green party "lunatics" (and it wasn't an opinion piece)

This guy is a great example. Theres no real lefty columnists.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/sectionindex1/0,5442,dhs_andrewbolt%5ETEXT%5Eheraldsun,00.html

This is the most major newspaper in my city.

Well, let's get some more Canadians in here! Sorry I made the mistake of trying to debate you; I got too caught up and forget the purpose of the thread.

I've given my opinion - that left purely to market forces, it will fail. There simply isn't an audience large enough to support it. That would be true of any far-right wing media outlet operating in Canada, though - not just of FoxNews.

Canadians like news - not partisan blather or entertainment disguised as news - but real news and investigative journalism. FoxNews isn't news.

I don't see a viable market for it here.
Yeah, except that it's neither, and that Canadians have been accepting both by listening to the BBC and other outlets. And why does Al-Jazeera do well in Canada? I doubt even you would say they're unbiased.

What newspaper does one find that are biased to the right, besides the Wall Street Journal? You do realize that 89% of newspaper editors are liberal...

I can think of several (mind you, those are Canadian right-wing papers, so they'd probably be a little too Marxist for your worldview).

The Herald Sun. The articles themselves aren't usually *terrible* despite one that called the Green party "lunatics" (and it wasn't an opinion piece)

This guy is a great example. Theres no real lefty columnists.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/sectionindex1/0,5442,dhs_andrewbolt%5ETEXT%5Eheraldsun,00.html
"No Real lefty columnists"? Look at the New York times!

I've given my opinion - that left purely to market forces, it will fail. There simply isn't an audience large enough to support it. That would be true of any far-right wing media outlet operating in Canada, though - not just of FoxNews.

Canadians like news - not partisan blather or entertainment disguised as news - but real news and investigative journalism. FoxNews isn't news.

I don't see a viable market for it here.

Yes, it will do well here because it is entertaining. I am going to go see right know if it is on my dorm TV.

Probably get some popcorn and a soda.

Yeah, except that it's neither, and that Canadians have been accepting both by listening to the BBC and other outlets. And why does Al-Jazeera do well in Canada? I doubt even you would say they're unbiased.

Show me some ratings numbers to back up your assertions about Al-Jazeera or fuck off.

"No Real lefty columnists"? Look at the New York times!

I meant in that particular newspaper.

Well, some hard numbers will take me a day or so, but you said FoxNews wouldn't survive in the Canadian market because of its "bias", yet Al-Jazeera's been on for years. And no need to be so vulgar.

I personally like it when Neil Cavuto "Your World" program has Victoria Secret Supermodels modeling their stuff on the runway.. Very nice indeed! Plus I wish Fox News made a Calendar of Hot Fox Babes!

I'm sure I'm not alone in saying Greta van Susteren in a bikini will cause severe vomiting among the members of the board.

Yeah, except that it's neither, and that Canadians have been accepting both by listening to the BBC and other outlets. And why does Al-Jazeera do well in Canada? I doubt even you would say they're unbiased.

Of course it is biased it offers a differnt perspective it is educating.

*popping pocorn in the microwave*

Well, some hard numbers will take me a day or so, but you said FoxNews wouldn't survive in the Canadian market because of its "bias", yet Al-Jazeera's been on for years. And no need to be so vulgar.

Sorry for the double post, but your info on al-Jazeera is incorrect. It was only cleared by the CRTC for entry into the Canadian airwaves last year.

Well, some hard numbers will take me a day or so, but you said FoxNews wouldn't survive in the Canadian market because of its "bias", yet Al-Jazeera's been on for years. And no need to be so vulgar.

No. It. Hasn't. (been on for years)

Shut up unless you know what you're talking about.

Windbag.

I think even I can agree to that...Here's an even nastier image...Bill O'Reilly in a bikini..Urghhh

No. It. Hasn't. (been on for years)

Shut up unless you know what you're talking about.

Windbag.
I'm not a windbag, and I was mistaken. I will find those numbers for you, however.

Also they have put a lot of restrictions on Al-Jazeera unlike FOX.

*some body is watching movie, instead eating popcorn in room*

Restrictions? Who restricts it? How?

Canadian Radio & Television Commission (CRTC). They regulate broadcasting standards in Canada.

We have it on regular cable in Australia. It's my favourite satirical political comedy channel.

I second that! :D

Restrictions? Who restricts it? How?
It's this crazy thing called "regulations". They barely exist in the United States these days, but some countries actually have them.

Referring a ways back, it's funny how people like to point out that most newspaper editors are liberal but then ignore that most newspaper owners are pretty far to the other side of the aisle. If they really wanted to, the owners could pretty easily turn their papers into rightwing mouthpieces, but it would serve no purpose.

A few conservative newspapers: Washington Times, New York Post, Weekly Standard.

Washingon Times is fairly even, and the Weekly Standard isn't really a Newspaper. It's a magazine.

I've actually found that if there's a major event happening, smart news-seekers try to see it unfold through a Canadian newscamera, if only to see the real deal, and not a truncated, edited version of the same story - with a generous slathering of right-wing agenda appeasement thrown unsubtly into the mix.

It boggles me that so many Americans see right-wing hucksterism as 'news', and actual news as liberal propoganda. What kinda drugs do they put in the water down there, anyway?

Yeah, at least in Canada they don't put it in the water. The doctor prescribes 'em for you.

The Herald Sun. The articles themselves aren't usually *terrible* despite one that called the Green party "lunatics" (and it wasn't an opinion piece)

This guy is a great example. Theres no real lefty columnists.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/sectionindex1/0,5442,dhs_andrewbolt%5ETEXT%5Eheraldsun,00.html

This is the most major newspaper in my city.

Andrew Bolt makes my skin crawl. That Greens "article" was incredible.

Yeah, at least in Canada they don't put it in the water. The doctor prescribes 'em for you.

Given the chance, your HMOs would bill you through your teeth for the drugs obviously dumped into your nation's water supply. Here they'd be a free prescription, but everyone'd be smoking good Canadian weed instead.

And doing what Canadians do a lot of, which is kick back and watch news programs.

Andrew Bolt makes my skin crawl. That Greens "article" was incredible.

Uh-oh, I agree with a collingwood supporter. LMAO ;)

well, i'm from alberta, the bastion of conservative thought in canada. however, i'm very much a left wing person. as much as i don't agree with what fox has to say, i think that it'll be a good thing for it to be in canada. at the very least, it will make for some interesting debates with all of my conservative friends about bill's tie selection. :P

Also they have put a lot of restrictions on Al-Jazeera unlike FOX.
What?....they have a Jewish lobby in Canada too?

Also they have put a lot of restrictions on Al-Jazeera unlike FOX.

The CRTC requires 'balanced' news reporting. Which basically means the station/newspaper can be a right/left-wing mouth peice all they want, but they have to have periodic articles/stories from the other side. The difference between FOX and Al-Jazeera is FOX does occasionally have left-wing persons/shows appear on the stations various programs in compliance with Canadian regulations. Al-Jazeera on the other hand does not.

To answer Armandian Cheese's question at the beginning of the thread. I think it's great that FOX was finally in Canada. I've been getting sick of the uber-socialist, viciously anti-American, pro-Canadian reguardless of fact, propaganda of the CBC, Global, and to a lesser extent, CTV. Canadian television could use a good wash-down with some right-wing American propaganda.

Just from seeing the thread title and not looking at posts I'd say my initial appraisel would be that it will go over like a turd in a punch bowl.

The CRTC requires 'balanced' news reporting. Which basically means the station/newspaper can be a right/left-wing mouth peice all they want, but they have to have periodic articles/stories from the other side. The difference between FOX and Al-Jazeera is FOX does occasionally have left-wing persons/shows appear on the stations various programs in compliance with Canadian regulations. Al-Jazeera on the other hand does not.

To answer Armandian Cheese's question at the beginning of the thread. I think it's great that FOX was finally in Canada. I've been getting sick of the uber-socialist, viciously anti-American, pro-Canadian reguardless of fact, propaganda of the CBC, Global, and to a lesser extent, CTV. Canadian television could use a good wash-down with some right-wing American propaganda.
Well, I wouldn't call it propaganda, but compared to the stuff that's considered unbiased in the Canadian media, anything that gives both sides a fair shake is considered "right wing".

It doesn't bother me that Fox is here in Canada.I rarely watch the idiot box anyways.I can't handle all the bloody commercials.When I want news,I'll get it from the net n choose my own news sources.

All my info I seek is from the net too,since I've been banned from all our cities librairies.

Peace