NationStates Jolt Archive

Burn Steam. Destroy the person who invented that shitty idea. Steam has ruined the Valve franchise. It must be destroyed and it's data stolen.

The only Thing Steam ruined was CS 1.5.... :gundge:

No, and it ruined the ability to boot up a game and click on a server and play.

Wow, you must be one of those 11yr old kids who just repeats what they hear.

Steam allows valve to directly patch their games, sell their games without going through a publisher (which in turn gains them more money), allows for easier cheat detection, just to name a few things.

Now my question to you is, how would you do it better? Can you think of a better way to do this instead of using some sort of middleware? I doubt it.

You're probably pissed because they relased an update last night and you couldn't get it right away? Instead of being grateful for valve adding something new like bots and a map and fixing some major bugs, you're whining because you can't get the game right away because 500,000 other people are trying to get it at the same time.

Back off. Handing all that bandwidth isn't an easy task. If you really want to help them, why don't you donate money to valve so they can get more servers, or why don't you become an official valve mirror?

Now, please stfu and come back when you're, oh let's say, 18. By then you might be mature enough.

Wow, you must be one of those 11yr old kids who just repeats what they hear.

Steam allows valve to directly patch their games, sell their games without going through a publisher (which in turn gains them more money), allows for easier cheat detection, just to name a few things.

Now my question to you is, how would you do it better? Can you think of a better way to do this instead of using some sort of middleware? I doubt it.

You're probably pissed because they relased an update last night and you couldn't get it right away? Instead of being grateful for valve adding something new like bots and a map and fixing some major bugs, you're whining because you can't get the game right away because 500,000 other people are trying to get it at the same time.

Back off. Handing all that bandwidth isn't an easy task. If you really want to help them, why don't you donate money to valve so they can get more servers, or why don't you become an official valve mirror?

Now, please stfu and come back when you're, oh let's say, 18. By then you might be mature enough.

1.)Steam allows valve to directly patch their games, sell their games without going through a publisher (which in turn gains them more money), allows for easier cheat detection, just to name a few things.

They can sell their games from it. I have no beef with that. And to be honest, servers can just run cheating death or some other anti-cheat program.

2.) Now my question to you is, how would you do it better? Can you think of a better way to do this instead of using some sort of middleware? I doubt it.

By going back to the 1.5< mod module. It was so much more reliable and easier.

3.) You're probably pissed because they relased an update last night and you couldn't get it right away? Instead of being grateful for valve adding something new like bots and a map and fixing some major bugs, you're whining because you can't get the game right away because 500,000 other people are trying to get it at the same time.


No, I'm pissed because;
1.) I buy HL2
2.) Buy DVDROM
3.) Install the game.
4.) Boot steam up
5.) Log in (took quite a while, considering the problems)
6.) Reinstall my drivers
7.) Watch steam tell me "The server is busy, normal service will resume in a few minutes". Ater 45 minutes, I still get the same message.
8.) Type this and have some person I have never even met call me an 11 year old child.
9.) Wait. and wait. and wait. To play a game I should already have access to the moment I installed it [and the new drivers].

It didn't do this when they added two new DoD maps. It would be easier if they put the maps, the bots, and the bug fixes on a download, considering it's entirely stupid to play these games on anything less than a DSL connection, and then have people who want to download it play the new games and the people who don't the old games.

Evidently you cannot make the comparison between the simpleness that is, or was, 1.5 and the idiocy of Steam.

I've already paid £100 for the DVD-ROM drive and the game. Why should I have to pay MORE money for it to work?

I can't play HL2 on my home pc because it's not online. Without Steam, I'd be able to. I'm 18, so according to your logic I'm just old enough to state my opinion. Thanks for that privelige.

I don't think I need to say anymore. Bloody steam, ruining it for people who aren't online...

I can't play HL2 on my home pc because it's not online. Without Steam, I'd be able to. I'm 18, so according to your logic I'm just old enough to state my opinion. Thanks for that privelige.

I don't think I need to say anymore. Bloody steam, ruining it for people who aren't online...

Exactly. Why should people have to pay for an INTERNET Connection to play a game OFFLINE?

No, the problem with Steam is its use as an Anti-Piracy tool. Someone who buys Half-Life 2 at a retail store shouldn't be forced to get internet access just so he can play the game. Not to mention that fact that some of us don't have broadband connections. Steam is worthless to those of us who are still forcd to use dial-up modems because we don't have the spare 3 weeks needed to download a game from Steam.

Works fine for me. I bought CS, it installed Steam. Later, it downloaded HL2 automatically for me, and all I have to do it pop in a credit card number and I didn't have to go to the store or wait for it to be mailed to me.

The update feature works way better than previous Valve methods.

I have broadband - which I find essential for online play. If you play online, and you're on dial-up, your going to have your ass handed to you by a 10 year old kid.

For your information, the patch last night ALSO made patches to HALF-LIFE 2. Therefore, you're game was trying to update itself and since the servers were overloaded, then you couldn't update. Looks like your timing was conincidental in that you decided to get the game the night of a rather large update.

Imo STEAM is good and no good. Like they want a person to connect on to the internet before he can play the single player.

To me, that can really backfire, especially if your on a crappy 56k.

Why not do it like Blizzard and Battle.net?

Imo STEAM is good and no good. Like they want a person to connect on to the internet before he can play the single player.

To me, that can really backfire, especially if your on a crappy 56k.

Why not do it like Blizzard and Battle.net?

Because if you're playing with a pirate copy, Steam will tell them where you are.

Steam is digital satan. It serves no practical purpose, is poorly written (you can't even use spaces in file names or names longer than 8 characters... surprising as it may seem we aren't all out here running Half Life 2 on windows 3.1) and is annoying whenever it is used.

I have such a long list of complaints about Steam that I'm not going to take the time to type them all here, but suffice it to say that many people have many problems with it, and we are being ignored.

Steam is digital satan. It serves no practical purpose, is poorly written (you can't even use spaces in file names or names longer than 8 characters... surprising as it may seem we aren't all out here running Half Life 2 on windows 3.1) and is annoying whenever it is used.

I have such a long list of complaints about Steam that I'm not going to take the time to type them all here, but suffice it to say that many people have many problems with it, and we are being ignored.

Exactly. There is an extremely large percent of the steam population that hate the thing.

I can't play HL2 on my home pc because it's not online. Without Steam, I'd be able to. I'm 18, so according to your logic I'm just old enough to state my opinion. Thanks for that privelige.

I don't think I need to say anymore. Bloody steam, ruining it for people who aren't online...

Thankfully there is a highly illegal crack. Although by using it you'll probably make onine play impossible.

I can't even hack and cheat in online games. The whole essence of online gaming is gone I tell you! I am proud to say I have installed steam once, and deleted it once two weeks later when I was released from the mental ward.

This is the first time I've seen anything negative said about Steam, I bought HL2 Silver through Steam and was playing it less than 15 minutes after it was released. Even if I'd ordered it through Amazon for arrival on release day it would have taken longer to install and costed more. So, obviously, I'm a big fan of it and digital content delivery in general.

Also, there's an option to play Steam games offline, so you ony need to be connected to the 'net when you're unlocking the game and updating.

And you paid £100 for HL2 and a DVD-ROM? You seriously got ripped off by someone. Amazon have the collectors edition for £33 and a DVD-ROM drive'll cost you about £25.

The DVDROM cost me £25 and another £25 to install.. well maybe not 100..

Bah, the only problem I have with Steam is that its more RAM eaten up. But otherwise, it makes perfect sense (esp. for antipiracy). And while last nights update was extraordinarily slow, I've had worse (try WORLD OF WARCRAFT. I waited over 3 hours for an update on Cable)