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Personally I think a few otherwise-impotent MEPs have decided any excuse to bring the whip out and start cracking it is a good one. Banning a bloody flag across an entire continent will somehow ban evil? I... think not.

I'm not surprised. The EU is known, after all, for a long list of nonsense legislature. I didn't expect this to change, and it looks like so far, I'm right.

This is, by any chance, in response to the Germans asking for it to be banned because of the "don't mention the war" mentality that seems to have been brought around when in their presence?

I'm not surprised. The EU is known, after all, for a long list of nonsense legislature. I didn't expect this to change, and it looks like so far, I'm right.

This is, by any chance, in response to the Germans asking for it to be banned because of the "don't mention the war" mentality that seems to have been brought around when in their presence?

That and a certain prince not realising how many cameras were present when he decided to have a bit of a jolly jape in an Afrika Corps costume.

don't mention the war" mentality that seems to have been brought around when in their presence?
Anyone else thinking of that Fawlty Towers episode:

Basil : "Oh you're German, I'm sorry I thought there was something wrong with you"

Basilto Polly:‘Don't mention the war, i mentioned it once, but i think i got away with it"

German Guest: "However did they win?"

Basil: "you started it"
German Guest: "no we didn't"
Basil : "yes you did you invaded Poland".


http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-3453/epid-53816/

That and a certain prince not realising how many cameras were present when he decided to have a bit of a jolly jape in an Afrika Corps costume.

I think that's what prompted the Germans (though, not collectively, as that would be quite loud) to ask for the ban as well as the previous mentality. Something about how whenever someone sees the swastika they think of Germany (and the war, obviously) and don't get fuzzy feelings. Except neo-nazis, but they don't count. See, it all fits in!

I was certainly thinking of that Fawlty towers episode when I made my previous post.

I'm not surprised. The EU is known, after all, for a long list of nonsense legislature. I didn't expect this to change, and it looks like so far, I'm right.

This is, by any chance, in response to the Germans asking for it to be banned because of the "don't mention the war" mentality that seems to have been brought around when in their presence?

Do you even have any idea of what type of legislation is discussed in the EU parliament? Do shurely dont have any idea of the impact such legislation as on your life, i bet.

And i disagree with the proposed ban. Freedom of speech must be protected, even if evil things show up. In the end, we defend freedom of speech because we believe that the good things said, surpass the bad things.

Besides, it happens a bad precedent.

Do you even have any idea of what type of legislation is discussed in the EU parliament? Do shurely dont have any idea of the impact such legislation as on your life, i bet.

A fast search on "Stupid EU legislation" renders 52 400 hits. :)

I am not saying everything is bad in the EU, but this over-dimensionized administrational giant does make legislations like the appropriate angle of curvature for bananas or the amount of cod that has to be fished in the Baltic sea. "Wat?!? DER Schweden wants to leave some fish alife? Does nicht vant to fish the whole amount? Tsey better oder annexeren ve vilst...."

A fast search on "Stupid EU legislation" renders 52 400 hits. :)

I am not saying everything is bad in the EU, but this over-dimensionized administrational giant does make legislations like the appropriate angle of curvature for bananas or the amount of cod that has to be fished in the Baltic sea. "Wat?!? DER Schweden wants to leave some fish alife? Does nicht vant to fish the whole amount? Tsey better oder annexeren ve vilst...."

The EU administration as 30.000 employees. As an administration, it is quite efficient. Now, the laws that rule them are messy and complicated, but that is another story.

There is no legislation about the curvature of bananas.

I will be the first one to admit and agree that there are many things that need to be discussed about EU affairs, but please, be reasonable, and think why things are done.

There Is legislation about cod fishing. It is called management of reserves. In 15 years, at current rates of fishing, codfish will be nearly extinct. Since fish dont exactly have a nationality,and travel around different countries, you need a global, european policy on the manegement of those stocks, so that we dont overfish them to extinction.

There Is legislation about cod fishing. It is called management of reserves. In 15 years, at current rates of fishing, codfish will be nearly extinct. Since fish dont exactly have a nationality,and travel around different countries, you need a global, european policy on the manegement of those stocks, so that we dont overfish them to extinction.

Exactly it would be stupid to fish to much. So Sweden wanted to fish even less than the stated amount. But this was not allowed.

Besides you are right, there are no radius of curvature on bananas, they are allowed to have a slightly erroneous form. But brown spots should not exceed 2 square cm!

As for the efficency: The stupendous movings from Brussels to Strassbourg does destroy quite a lot. Do you now that the new Italian comissionary only spends a day and a half in brussels and the rest of his time in Rome due to other obligations. Of course you have to move the whole law commision staff to Rome as well.

Tien, tien, tien, les parisien

Anyone else thinking of that Fawlty Towers episode:

Basil : "Oh you're German, I'm sorry I thought there was something wrong with you"

Basilto Polly:‘Don't mention the war, i mentioned it once, but i think i got away with it"

German Guest: "However did they win?"

Basil: "you started it"
German Guest: "no we didn't"
Basil : "yes you did you invaded Poland".


http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-3453/epid-53816/

ROFL - That was exactly what came to my mind.

I'm not surprised. The EU is known, after all, for a long list of nonsense legislature. I didn't expect this to change, and it looks like so far, I'm right.

This is, by any chance, in response to the Germans asking for it to be banned because of the "don't mention the war" mentality that seems to have been brought around when in their presence?

Legislatures in every country (the US, the EU, you name it) pass ridiculous legislation as a matter of course. It's their raison d'etre.

Same for bureaucracies, except they make regulations.

Ever see the Department of Defense specification for fruitcake? I'm not kidding - it's eighteen pages long.

Legislatures in every country (the US, the EU, you name it) pass ridiculous legislation as a matter of course. It's their raison d'etre.

Same for bureaucracies, except they make regulations.

Ever see the Department of Defense specification for fruitcake? I'm not kidding - it's eighteen pages long.

See, that astounds me, for one simple reason. How do you extend fruitcake specification over 18 pages? The guy writing must have lost track of what he was doing, and by about page two he's writing a script for some hollywood blockbuster he wants produced. It'd be in film noir style and everything.

Now what will Harry have to wear to the ball Cinderella?

There are many aspets of the fruitcake. Sizes, non-allergic, best-before dates etc, then you got all the problems with mixing fruitcakes (pastry) and fruitcakes (homosexuals). 18 pages seems to short........
I hope the guy had a proper university degree

Once again, I'm not joking. The specification for condoms is only thirteen pages... chewing gum is fifteen pages.

Maybe the defense contractor who wrote the specs was paid by the page.

Banning the swastika? Fuck that.

It's thousands of years old, widespread, and Europe will piss off lots of Hindus, Buddhists, Falun-Gong members and followers of other religions.

Would the EU ban all manifestations of the swastika, or only Hitler's version (clockwise instead of counter-clockwise, inclined) ?



As for the efficency: The stupendous movings from Brussels to Strassbourg does destroy quite a lot. Do you now that the new Italian comissionary only spends a day and a half in brussels and the rest of his time in Rome due to other obligations. Of course you have to move the whole law commision staff to Rome as well.

It's a matter of French prestige. They insisted that some EU institutions would be placed in France.

They can't pronounce Maastricht either.

I think that's what prompted the Germans (though, not collectively, as that would be quite loud) to ask for the ban as well as the previous mentality. Something about how whenever someone sees the swastika they think of Germany (and the war, obviously) and don't get fuzzy feelings. Except neo-nazis, but they don't count. See, it all fits in!

I was certainly thinking of that Fawlty towers episode when I made my previous post.
Perhaps the EU could pass a law insisting that all Swastikas be replaced by pictures of Basil Fawlty?

You know theres an old saying "First we hang all the lawyers"...

It really ought to be "First we hang all the bureaucrats"...

You know theres an old saying "First we hang all the lawyers"...

It really ought to be "First we hang all the bureaucrats"...
"then we hang all the washing out"

they ban the swastika and im wearing my nazi armband to school

"then we hang all the washing out"

but is there enough bleach to really get all the bureaucratic bs out?

A law banning a symbol. What a load of tragically pointless putridly vile bollocks. Laws are supposed to actually be useful, not give the police distractions from actual crimes.

do they think if we see a flag we'll all become Nazis?

patronising.

It's thousands of years old, widespread, and Europe will piss off lots of Hindus, Buddhists, Falun-Gong members and followers of other religions.

actually the jain are abandoning the swastika as their symbol due to what hitler did it.

but is there enough bleach to really get all the bureaucratic bs out?
Heh theres as much chance of getting rid of bureaucrats as there is of getting rid of hookers

course getting rid of hookers is demonstrably a bad thing so im not sure where i was going here ;)

do they think if we see a flag we'll all become Nazis?

patronising.

Quite right.

You know theres an old saying "First we hang all the lawyers"...

It really ought to be "First we hang all the bureaucrats"...

I second that.

You know theres an old saying "First we hang all the lawyers"...

It really ought to be "First we hang all the bureaucrats"...


1st, Actually, the quote is:

"First thing we do, is kill all the lawyers." Henry VI, Part II, Shakespeare.

2nd, the quote is made as rebel Jack Cade is discussing a plot to take over the government and in context, ti stands for the idea that the government can't be overthrown unless lawyers and the law are wiped out by the rebels.

3rd, Lawyers for the EU who think this is a good idea are exactly the people that Jack Cade and his followers were talking about.