NationStates Jolt Archive

Not in the sence of econemy, or the fact that they are in wars. But we all heard of those wars about 12-13 years ago. Of course most of us were there. But the problem is, tons of children were orphans, and the orphanages didnt have enough workers and all, but the children had little care, sure they got fed, clothed, but they didnt get loved, and they have serious emotional problems because of that, its a generation of teens who act like todlers, in a way, they are still awaiting the emotions that they should have had recieved when they were much younger, this will, in 10-20 years lead to problemed adults, who cant work well, so the term the children are our future is really true, its just awful over there.

what?

wars in eastern europe 12-13 years ago?

Outside of Yugoslavia I'm having a rough time figuring this one out.

what?

wars in eastern europe 12-13 years ago?

Outside of Yugoslavia I'm having a rough time figuring this one out.

Yeah thats pretty much what Im talking about, also in Romania, and Russia and ex. Soviet Territories.

Not in the sence of econemy, or the fact that they are in wars. they didnt get loved, and they have serious emotional problems because of that, in a way, they are still awaiting the emotions that they should have had recieved when they were much younger, this will, in 10-20 years lead to problemed adults, who cant work well, so the term the children are our future is really true, its just awful over there.

They are in wars now? The economy is growing very fast in Poland in Hungary. As for the rest, that is sad :(

I say the same goes for any war torn nation, and probably the areas struck by the tsunami wave. We need to act now to make sure all of these childeren get a proper upbringing in good foster families, for those who no longer have any. Someone make a UN resolution! I;m too lazy, and I already made two relating to the tsunami.

Turkey is supposedly doing better, so I hear anyhow :gundge:

Yeah thats pretty much what Im talking about, also in Romania, and Russia and ex. Soviet Territories.

Still not sure which wars you're talking about. Let's see:

Eastern European nations that haven't been involved in a war recently:
Czech Republic, Slovakia, Belarus, Russia (except in a very limited fashion), Ukraine, Moldova, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, (East) Germany

Former Yugoslavia nations: Bosnia & Herzogovina, Croatia, FYR of Macedonia, Serbia & Montenegro, Slovenia

Others: Albania (I don't know that they've been in a war recently, but they never seem to be far away from one)

Are you sure you're not just generalising from one conflict?

Turkey is supposedly doing better, so I hear anyhow :gundge:
Except that I wouldn't really classify Turkey as in Eastern Europe...it really is more of a Middle Eastern country.

Except that I wouldn't really classify Turkey as in Eastern Europe...it really is more of a Middle Eastern country.

No, the Turkish people think of themselves as Europeans. They are trying to adopt European culture, and seem more like Greece than Arabia. They also want to join the Eropean Union, and they are also using the Latin Alphabet instead of Arabic. They're European now.

No, the Turkish people think of themselves as Europeans.Thats nice, the rest of Europe doesnt seem to agree with them They are trying to adopt European culture
Huh? You just said they were European, so their culture would in fact already be European culture.It just wouldnt be the same culture as the rest of Europe., They also want to join the European Union, And I want to find a million dollars buried in my garden- it aint gonna happen though. They're European now.
No they are Asians who happen to have stolen a very small part of Europe from the Greeks.

They want people to consider them European, why not make them happy? Jerk.

They want people to consider them European, why not make them happy? Jerk.
Is that the best you can do :D

Is that the best you can do :D

No, actually I could call you something much worse. You don't want that do you. :) By the way, the rest of Europe Needs Turkey The Turkish population, unlike the rest of the continent is growing fast. The other countries need the Turkish imigrants to do jobs, and keep the EU's economy running. Have you ever been to, or at least seen a picture of Turkey's coast? It looks very Greek, or mediteranian. For this reason, Turkey is a Mediteranian country, It's neutral between Europe and ME, (Middle East) but leans toward Europe.

[QUOTE=BlatantSillyness] And I want to find a million dollars buried in my garden- it aint gonna happen though.
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Turkey are already in negotiations to join the EU so grab your spade

We need Turkey? Why? so we can pay even more money to the EU?


Turkey is in asia, apart from a tiny part which is insignificant in the whole size of Turkey. it is not a european country

We need Turkey? Why? so we can pay even more money to the EU?


Turkey is in asia, apart from a tiny part which is insignificant in the whole size of Turkey. it is not a european country

No so we can get more cheap labour within the free market area the EU operates. This way companies can make more money

No, actually I could call you something much worse. You don't want that do you. :) Go right ahead- flames dont bother me I think of them as admissions of defeat ;)By the way, the rest of Europe Needs Turkey The Turkish population, unlike the rest of the continent is growing fast. [/quote ]Turkey is Asian and the population of Asia is growing fast Europe can get immigrants from anywhere.[QUOTE=Foxstenikopolis]The other countries need the Turkish imigrants to do jobs, and keep the EU's economy running. No , the EU needs immigrants, it doesnt need them to be from Turkey, and it doesnt need Turkey to be in the EU Have you ever been to, or at least seen a picture of Turkey's coast? It looks very Greek, or mediteranian. For this reason, Turkey is a Mediteranian country, It's neutral between Europe and ME, (Middle East) but leans toward Europe.
No I have never been to Turkey, I figure a country that has so many people wanting to leave it probably isnt worth visiting ;)

Why do we need imigrants exactly?

We need Turkey? Why? so we can pay even more money to the EU?


Turkey is in asia, apart from a tiny part which is insignificant in the whole size of Turkey. it is not a european country

I just said why! Read the dang post! I don't care what you think, make Europe as small as you like, but as far as I'm concerned, Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbajan and all of Russia are in Europe.

Why do we need imigrants exactly?

cheap labor, duh.

Where is the first guy to say Turkey is in Europe? I cannot fight all his battles, just help him in the ones we both agree on. :headbang:

I just said why! Read the dang post!
You said Europe needs Immigrants (and I agreed) You didnt say why Europe needs turkish immigrants and you didnt explain why a need for cheap labour= a need for Turkey in the EU.

I just said why! Read the dang post! I don't care what you think, make Europe as small as you like, but as far as I'm concerned, Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbajan and all of Russia are in Europe.
geographically, youre wrong, Turkey isnt in europe. a very small part of it is, but that is insignificant.

Turkey has a bad human rights record, and its economy is up the left. no, we do not need them

geographically, youre wrong, Turkey isnt in europe. a very small part of it is, but that is insignificant.

Turkey has a bad human rights record, and its economy is up the left. no, we do not need them

Yeah, they need some improvement with their human rights record, that I agree with. Turkey is getting closer to Europe all the time, and when it joins the European union, there will be no arguement that they've made their transition from Middle Eastern to European.

Whether we like it or not Turkey is more than likely going to join the EU. Before they do that they are going to have to address those equal rights and improve the economy as the current accession countries did.

Whether we like it or not Turkey is more than likely going to join the EU. Before they do that they are going to have to address those equal rights and improve the economy as the current accession countries did.
Well, I hope they don't improve their economy quite the same way some current members have done. Thenagain, if Greece 'fixed' it's budgetary data, I'm sure Turkey will too... :D

Yeah thats pretty much what Im talking about, also in Romania, and Russia and ex. Soviet Territories.

By that logic than I guess the United States is also in decline based on the fact that they are in two wars at the moment.

Well, I hope they don't improve their economy quite the same way some current members have done. Thenagain, if Greece 'fixed' it's budgetary data, I'm sure Turkey will too... :D

agreed

Kebab-mongers

The 'CIA World Fact book' is worth a look for those of you unable to comprehend the idea of Turkey being considered a part of Asia minor.
Turkey is 'the uncle no-one talks about', or the annoying cousin you have to put up with at your distant Aunts 5th wedding.
If Turkey did become part of the EU (predictions currently resting at anywhere between 12 and 15 years), things would have to change.
Turkey has a large and rapidly growing population and a low average wage; not the 2 greatest point scorers for entrance into the EU club!
If Turkey joins the EU, it will be another country trying to feed from a diminishing trough.

Todays rant officially over.