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Many people on here vehemently argue for or against the existence of God. But are they/we arguing about the same conception of God?

I will start by saying I think it/him/her exists/existed and that at some undefined point in the past God created the universe. I think that is God's sole contribution. I believe God is the architect of the universe and that's it.

Lastly, I don't believe any mainstream religon can adequately understand divinity if it exists.

What do you think?

P.S. Sorry if this subject has been covered recently and I've missed it. :)

I don't know if this has been covered, but it is dangerously close to "Is there a God?" topics we frequently get, so it might end up the same. (I hope not though, this seems quite interesting).

As to what is God the most common one is that it is a superterrestrial being (attributes differing). However, one of the nivest definitions of God I've heard as from a friend who said "God is the bond created by love that exists between people."

Interesting question (Answer is my belief only),
* I'm not sure that god created the universe, they might be a by-product of the creation process. I don't beleive there is any-thing beyond the universe, not even god.
* I'm not sure that there is a single all powerful god, or whether they are multiple. All I know(/beleive) is that there is at least one.
* They are not allpowerfull/interfeering. I can see god's influence at work in the world, but not god's hand directly. I think that there is some reason that prevents god from directly interfeering with our lives.

I also agree with Conceptualists that:
God is the bond created by love that exists between people.
This is certainly part of what god is, although I think there is more to it than that.

Re: God'sFree Hand: Yes, I guess we will only learn (I guess that could be the intention) by our own free will.

Some cosmologists and Philoopshers have postulated that there could be multiple universes. But, this doesn't preclude God does it?

I totally agree with that..

"God is the bond created by love that exists between people."


I believe that:

~ God is more of a 'force' or energy field rather than a person or thing
~ The big bang happend but God is the energy that forced it to happen
~ The only hell is being on the Earth... there is no devil.
~ Every action, thought, movement is God's will
~ Jesus and Budha were both heavenly bodies

1) God is a person, not a concept/theory
2) We are a figment of this person's imagination, not the opposite
3) God likes company

Everyone has God within them. Those that choose to ignore their God sense are the ones that will destroy this planet through hate, greed, indifference, and selfishness.

Those that nurture the God within, generally enjoy their serenity and peace of mind.

BTW, this has nothing to do with religion.

God is like a little fish living in an ocean.

First Of,

The Bible is a book of stories, so ther you have your first problem. Stories adapt to peoples perceptions and of course memories.

I disagree that God made the world because that is just being naive and almost brinking on the edge of insanity, but to deny that there was a man named Jesus.

I do believe that there was a man named Jesus and that he had a huge following, he must have been a celebrity of their time. His 'adventures' were then made into the bible.

God is not real, and neither are his 'unearthly' doings. However, people have the right to believe in what they want to. :)

First of all I’m an Atheist…

If there were a God then it would be similar to ourselves, after all we are supposed to be made in its image. While God could take the physical form of a human or any other living organism it wouldn’t be mortal. As for the matter of essence of God if God could create the Earth in six days (the seventh being for rest) then there has to have been energy expenditure. Where then did the energy that created the universe come from?

If God was the creator of the universe then we could imply that there is or was something outside the universe and that is the space that God comes from. One would presume that God can enter and leave this universe and is not confounded by the laws of this universe otherwise God would be trapped in the universe it created and it’s hardly omnipotent in that case. If the hand of God was real then all actions could be predictable but they’re not, a more impressive act by God would be to make acts that should be random not eg: making all dice always throw up six.

Finally in what part of God are we created? All our emotional reactions and fuelled by chemical reactions and the standard anthropologist can explain to you the causation and subtleties between each cultures behavioural actions. Reading through the First Testament much of the God’s actions seem to be more in the interest of preserving the Jewish people from polytheism, smiting thy neighbour and installing a patriarchal and slave system. The Second Testament’s emphasis on compassion, love and humility also reeks of conforming to the current socio-religious demands of Jewish society under Roman occupation. It would therefore seem that God is partial to playing power politics amongst his creations.

Just some rambling thoughts…