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Which movie best reflects current American politics?

Prosophia
16-01-2005, 09:06
Just curious about how pop culture reflects (or doesn't reflect) politics - and what it says about what we think!

Of course, I'd be interested in hearing what other country's politics people think these movies reflect - and why!

And if you're unfamiliar with any of the choices, check out the Internet Movie Database: http://www.imdb.com/.
Hughski
16-01-2005, 09:08
TEAM AMERICA!

(need I say more?)
Smeagol-Gollum
16-01-2005, 09:09
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

(heh, you can pick your own names for the labels).
Prosophia
16-01-2005, 09:10
TEAM AMERICA!

(need I say more?)

Ooh - haven't seen that one (yet!). I'm totally planning on checking it out, though!
Nihilistic Beginners
16-01-2005, 09:15
I hate to say this but...Salo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal%F2_o_le_120_giornate_di_Sodoma
Patra Caesar
16-01-2005, 09:20
I'd also vote for 'Team America' I think.
Gataway_Driver
16-01-2005, 12:48
One flew over the cuckoo's nest
New Fuglies
16-01-2005, 12:53
Caligula.
DHomme
16-01-2005, 13:40
Starship troopers
Johnny Wadd
16-01-2005, 14:18
Caligula.


Are you for real? I don't see any anal sex going on in the cabinet or snakes being involved in any sort of way.
Johnny Wadd
16-01-2005, 14:18
My pick is:



Walking Tall!
New Fuglies
16-01-2005, 14:35
Are you for real? I don't see any anal sex going on in the cabinet or snakes being involved in any sort of way.

Think metaphorically. ;)
The State of It
16-01-2005, 14:45
Goodfellas....The Godfather Trilogy....Casino
FairyTInkArisen
16-01-2005, 15:15
I'm also gonna go with Team America (it was also damn funny!)

my friends were joking about how afterwards there was probably Americans that stood up, saluted and said 'God bless America'
Sanctaphrax
16-01-2005, 15:17
Air Force One for the simple reason that I haven't seen any of the films, yet I have read the book of AFO. Therefore it wins by default.
Barkur
16-01-2005, 15:26
Team America, deff ;)
Wong Cock
16-01-2005, 15:29
They didn't know what they do.
Ogiek
16-01-2005, 16:23
Rollerball (the original 1975 version).

Its vision of a corporate controlled future where people are distracted from the real issues of the day by mindless entertainment is a vision of our present and future.
Ulrichland
16-01-2005, 16:26
Mein Führer! I can walk!
Ogiek
16-01-2005, 16:32
Mein Führer! I can walk!

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
Ulrichland
16-01-2005, 16:44
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!

lol
Ashmoria
16-01-2005, 16:50
the wizard of oz

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
New Granada
16-01-2005, 16:51
The Triumph of the Will
Ulrichland
16-01-2005, 16:55
The Triumph of the Will

o_O LOL!
Battlestar Christiania
16-01-2005, 17:02
Voted for Air Force One, but Team America: World Police would be better, and I mean that in an entirely good way.

My pick is:



Walking Tall!
Hell yeah!
Neo Cannen
16-01-2005, 17:07
There is a quote from the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy which I think sums up American politics very well at the moment. In this exert from "So long, and thanks for all the fish" Ford Prefect is talking about an Alien Spacecraft's occupant of a Giant silver robot that has just landed in London which has said

"I come in peace" it said, adding after a long momenmt of further grinding "Take me too your lizard"

Ford Prefect of course had an explination for this

"It comes from a very anchient democracy" he explained

"You mean it comes from a world of Lizards?" Arthur asked

"No" Said Ford "Nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people"

"Odd" said Arthur "I thought you said it was a democracy"

"I did" said Ford "It is"

"So" said Arthur, hoping he wasnt sounding redicoulsly obtuse "Why dont the people get rid of the Lizards?"

"It honestly doesnt occur to them" said Ford "They've all got the vote so they all pretty much assume that the government they voted in more or less aproximates to the government they want"

"You mean they actually vote for the Lizards?" said Arthur

"Oh yes" Ford replied

"But" said Arthur, going for the big one again "Why?"

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, the wrong lizard might get in, got any gin?"

"What?" said Arthur

"I said" Ford asked with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice "Have you got any gin"

"I'll look, tell me about the Lizards"

Ford shrugged "Some people say the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them. They're completely wrong of course, completley and utterly wrong. But someones got to say it"

"Thats terrible" said Arthur

"Listen bud if I had one alterian dollar for every time I heard one part of the universe look at another bit of the universe and say 'thats terrible' I wouldnt be sitting like a leamon looking for a gin. But I havent and I am"
Kroblexskij
16-01-2005, 17:10
TEAM AMERICA!

(need I say more?)

i just need my forged pass to see it :D
Prosophia
16-01-2005, 17:57
There is a quote from the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy which I think sums up American politics very well at the moment.

Brilliant - so true! I wonder if that quote will be in the movie?
Prosophia
16-01-2005, 18:00
Rollerball (the original 1975 version).

Its vision of a corporate controlled future where people are distracted from the real issues of the day by mindless entertainment is a vision of our present and future.

Interesting... I've never seen it.

I was thinking of Wag the Dog for similar reasons - except the "mindless entertainment" was a war.

And the scary thing is, I know that kind of stuff isn't limited to only the Republicans who are in power.
Buechoria
16-01-2005, 18:04
Apollo 13.

Right now our government is in deep shit (like the Apollo 13 crew) but with enough support and assistance from the people (mission control), I think everything will turn out fine.
Eutrusca
16-01-2005, 18:05
Any of the Alan Drury books which were made into movies. It's been awhile, but I think "Advise and Consent" was the first of those.
Bushrepublican liars
16-01-2005, 18:08
Just curious about how pop culture reflects (or doesn't reflect) politics - and what it says about what we think!


I voted "others". "The Downfall", about the last days of Hitler, reflects the current US politics best. The difference between both systems is a very thin line.
Eutrusca
16-01-2005, 18:09
I voted "others". "The Downfall", about the last days of Hitler reflects the current US politics best. The difference between both systems is a very thin line.
Utter nonsense.
Bushrepublican liars
16-01-2005, 18:10
Utter nonsense.

Hmm when it comes from you, we can understand that. :p All your posts are "Go US!" nonsense and BS.
Johnny Wadd
16-01-2005, 18:16
I voted "others". "The Downfall", about the last days of Hitler, reflects the current US politics best. The difference between both systems is a very thin line.


Hmm, not really too many similarities between the NAZI party and the current administration. If you say Patriot Act, I say RICO Act. Can you name for me some similarities between the two?
Johnny Wadd
16-01-2005, 18:17
Hmm when it comes from you, we can understand that. :p All your posts are "Go US!" nonsense and BS.

All of your posts are "Down with Bush!" nonsense and BS.
Prosophia
16-01-2005, 18:20
Hmm, not really too many similarities between the NAZI party and the current administration. If you say Patriot Act, I say RICO Act. Can you name for me some similarities between the two?

*feels like she's about to seem utterly ignorant* What's the RICO Act?
Prosophia
16-01-2005, 18:22
Nevermind - just googled it!

"In 1970, Congress passed the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1961-1968. At the time, Congress' goal was to eliminate the ill-affects of organized crime on the nation's economy. To put it bluntly, RICO was intended to destroy the Mafia.

Throughout the 1970's, RICO's intended purpose and its actual use ran parallel to each other. Seldom was RICO used outside of the context of the Mafia, and it is not an overstatement to say that civil claims under RICO were simply not brought.

In the 1980's, however, civil lawyers noticed section 1964(c) of the RICO Act, which allows civil claims to be brought by any person injured in their business or property by reason of a RICO violation. Any person who succeeded in establishing a civil RICO claim would automatically receive judgment in the amount of three times their actual damages and would be awarded their costs and attorneys' fees. The financial windfall available under RICO inspired the creativity of lawyers across the nation, and by the late 1980's, RICO was a (if not the most) commonly asserted claim in federal court. Everyone was trying to depict civil claims, such as common law fraud, product defect, and breach of contract as criminal wrongdoing, which would in turn enable the filing of a civil RICO action."

http://www.ricoact.com/
New Stamford
16-01-2005, 18:49
Death to Smoochy
Dempublicents
16-01-2005, 18:52
Other:

Love Actually

Billy Bob Thorton as the pushy sleazeball president - PERFECT! =)
Mandunns
16-01-2005, 18:54
America and politcs! Lets Say No MORE!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Johnny Wadd
16-01-2005, 18:54
Other:

Love Actually

Billy Bob Thorton as the pushy sleazeball president - PERFECT! =)


Shouldn't that be Clinton as he was the biggest sleazeball in years. Come on, he's the leader of the free world and picks trailer trash chicks? Dude WTF???
Johnny Wadd
16-01-2005, 18:55
Another perfect film for this administration:

High Noon
Dempublicents
16-01-2005, 18:59
Shouldn't that be Clinton as he was the biggest sleazeball in years. Come on, he's the leader of the free world and picks trailer trash chicks? Dude WTF???

Does Clinton not count as pretty much current?
Johnny Wadd
16-01-2005, 19:13
Does Clinton not count as pretty much current?

No. He was nearly 5 years ago, so not current.
Prosophia
16-01-2005, 20:24
Does Clinton not count as pretty much current?

My intention in asking the question was more current than Clinton - as in, this most recent election and the time surrounding it.

But as long as you specify, match 'em up to any decade (or country)!
Powerhungry Chipmunks
16-01-2005, 20:40
Eraserhead
Passive Cookies
16-01-2005, 20:45
It has to be Wag the Dog... Although Team America is rather close (slightly over the top). But in Wag the Dog, the current government creates a war overseas to distract the public and convince them they cannot possibly change presidents. Commericals in that movie coined the phrase "you can't change horses in mid stream." One of my highschool teachers used that movie to demonstrate the ridiculousness of American politics. Good times.
Karas
16-01-2005, 20:50
Bullworth. A suicidal politition tells it like it is and then gets assasinated for doing so. In politics, you have to be suicidal to tell it like it is.
Dempublicents
16-01-2005, 20:51
No. He was nearly 5 years ago, so not current.

You do realize that the country has been around for over 200 years, correct?
Dempublicents
16-01-2005, 20:52
My intention in asking the question was more current than Clinton - as in, this most recent election and the time surrounding it.

But as long as you specify, match 'em up to any decade (or country)!

I was referring to the current administration. Someone decided to point out that the description could also mean Clinton. Although I doubt that Clinton was as pushy as Bush in foreign matters, this is probably partially true.
Prosophia
16-01-2005, 21:11
I was referring to the current administration. Someone decided to point out that the description could also mean Clinton. Although I doubt that Clinton was as pushy as Bush in foreign matters, this is probably partially true.

Ah, gotcha. The other poster threw me off!

Clinton - pushy? Don't you remember - Doonesbury drew him as a waffle! :p