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As long as I'm polling, what does everyone think of PETA?

I think it's disgusting and immoral. People Erotically Touching Animals are a bunch of perverts.

Not sure what PETA is. if it is People erotically touching animals (Which I doubt) it's a bit weird

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. You know, the ones who said that even if animal testing resulted in a cure for cancer, they'd still be against it.

People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They are a very radical animal right org. Their pres is quoted as saying that he would never condone research on animals, even if it led to a cure for cancer.

You beat me to the punch.

People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They are a very radical animal right org. Their pres is quoted as saying that he would never condone research on animals, even if it led to a cure for cancer.

I know. ;)

It's People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They try to influence societal standards that encourage the routine torture of animals. Sometimes, they're stupid by doing things like spending money on anti-milk billboards when they could be opposing things like the horrendous conditions in factory farms. There's no reason anyone should hate them, though, they're just trying to make life better for some innocent creatures. If you hate animals, fine, don't give them your money.

They're militant as well. Hell, I went to their website once and they had under the kids section "Colonel Corn Launches an assault on the meaties in Texas."

Further evidence that they are morons.

People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They are a very radical animal right org. Their pres is quoted as saying that he would never condone research on animals, even if it led to a cure for cancer.

Crackpots with personality disorders, who would probably start attacking farmers if all pharmaceutical animal testing was banned!!

well, technically vivisection isn't always the best idea, many things that are fine to us are poison to animals and vice versa.

and peta isn't always horribly radical... for instance, rather than encourage the boycott of nearly every company that does any animal testing whatsoever, they only encourage the boycott of companies that unnecessarily test on animals. (i.e. people who test cosmetics and houshold cleaners on animals, such as procter and gamble, instead of those who just test medicine...)

they do take it a bit far at times though, however how much attention do you think they would get if they didn't?

Okay, I'll agree that testing cosmetics on animals is pretty dumbass. But how is having an orgy in the middle of the streets going to solve that.

Have you seen their ads? They compare the conditions on chicken farms to the Holocaust. Complete and total nutjobs.

Here's the page whose address PETA stole.

http://mtd.com/tasty/

okay, who else watched penn and teller last night then? C'mon, own up.

I've never seen them, except on the today show. Are they any good?

I've never seen them, except on the today show. Are they any good?

yeah, penn and teller bullshit is fucking good. I highly reccomend it

PETA is a minor annoyance that I have since choosen to ignore.

PETA: People for the Eating of Tasty Animals
:D

PETA is super radical

So should anything be done about them, or are they harmlessly stupid?

they're pretty harmless, but incredibly annoying. the thing is, uninformed ppl will believe them.

and although i dont agree with testing cosmetics on animals, i think it may be the law to do so before putting a product on the market.
i KNOW it's the law that you have to test medications on animals.
being in the ag program at school, pro-peta people make me angry.

Ingrid Newkirk (co-founder and president of PETA):

"A rat is a pig is a boy is a dog"

Was I the only one who conjured up pictures of a bored farmer out in the sticks when I read this (with Duelling Banjos in the background)

I believe the people in PETA have a few(ok, alot) of screws in their heads loose. Sure, torturing animals is bad, but I mean not testing on them AT ALL? I mean, we conquered this planet, so we can do whatever we want with it!

Anyhoo, No Animal testing? Would you rather we test real people? I say we test on the PETA people. Since they don't want us to test animals, it must mean they want to volunteer for their place!

Ingrid Newkirk (co-founder and president of PETA):

"A rat is a pig is a boy is a dog"

Was I the only one who conjured up pictures of a bored farmer out in the sticks when I read this (with Duelling Banjos in the background)

Lol. Quotes like that do piss me off, though. How can someone...whatever.

PETA: People for the Eating of Tasty Animals
:D

As a level 5 vegan I find your comment offensive. I won't eat anything which casts a shadow.

As a level 5 vegan I find your comment offensive. I won't eat anything which casts a shadow.

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As a level 5 vegan I find your comment offensive. I won't eat anything which casts a shadow.

He's just jokin' around. He's not trying to insult vegetarians. I actually have great respect for anyone that can abstain from meat.

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Okay, maybe he is. :p

I'm fine with people who are Vegetarians because of their religious beliefs or because their bodies can't handle the food. IF its for another reason...

P.S. The great MAddox never lies.

I'm fine with people who are Vegetarians because of their religious beliefs or because their bodies can't handle the food. IF its for another reason...


It is part of my agenda to save mother earth. Along with pocket mulching.

I'd say tons more animals are being killed by habitat destruction than are being eaten.

It is part of my agenda to save mother earth. Along with pocket mulching.

Hippie.

PETA are a bunch of hysterical wackos, I have no time for them. I occasionally visit their website for amusement. I think that they're mostly harmless, as long as they're completely ignored then everything's OK.

There are 2 more pages Maddox has dedicated to Peta:
http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html "Guiltless Grill?"
and the follow-up, with a letter from PETA themselves:
http://maddox.xmission.com/hatemail.cgi#PETA

Oh and I have that t-shirt, by the way. :D

There are 2 more pages Maddox has dedicated to Peta:
http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html "Guiltless Grill?"
and the follow-up, with a letter from PETA themselves:
http://maddox.xmission.com/hatemail.cgi#PETA

Oh and I have that t-shirt, by the way. :D

I envy you.

As a level 5 vegan I find your comment offensive. I won't eat anything which casts a shadow.

So plants don't cast a shadow? How does that work?

I have great respect for people who don't eat meat because of health reasons. But not eating meat or using animal products for some philosophical statement? Sorry, that's just weird.

Actually, I tried an all-vegetarian diet once. I lost a lot of weight, becuase they were really hard to catch.

I have great respect for people who don't eat meat because of health reasons.

Thats what I meant. Although I admire the ability to do so regardless of reason, not eating animals for philosophical reasons is not to cool.

Disclaimer: In my opinion.

So plants don't cast a shadow? How does that work?
When'd he say that?
He doesn't eat anything that casts a shadow. He doesn't eat plants.

I have great respect for people who don't eat meat because of health reasons. But not eating meat or using animal products for some philosophical statement? Sorry, that's just weird.

wtf?

you have respect for people who are dealing with a health problemm but not those who have made a decision for themselves which in no way affects you to eat healthily and attempt to avoid harming animals in the process?

first off, that's like saying "i respect the lactose intolerant for not drinking milk, but when vegans do it, it's just weird."

wtf?

you have respect for people who are dealing with a health problemm but not those who have made a decision for themselves which in no way affects you to eat healthily and attempt to avoid harming animals in the process?

first off, that's like saying "i respect the lactose intolerant for not drinking milk, but when vegans do it, it's just weird."

Yeah, that's about the jist of it. People are omnivors. You can tell by our teeth.

Animals and people are not equal. If I needed to sacrifice a thousand animals to save one human life, I would. And Honestly, I wouldn't mind vegans so much if they weren't so vocal in telling me that meat is evil. Kinda like how a lot of people get annoyed when Chrstians press too hard trying to convert people.

I admire PETA's conviction and what they want to do, but i think they go about it the wrong way and are often too extreme in their actions.

Yeah, that's about the jist of it. People are omnivors. You can tell by our teeth.

Animals and people are not equal. If I needed to sacrifice a thousand animals to save one human life, I would. And Honestly, I wouldn't mind vegans so much if they weren't so vocal in telling me that meat is evil. Kinda like how a lot of people get annoyed when Chrstians press too hard trying to convert people.

I agree!

*goes back to reading Maddox...*

Yeah, that's about the jist of it. People are omnivors. You can tell by our teeth.

we're omnivores of opportunity, you can tell by the length of our intestines we aren't meant for excessive meat consumption.

we're omnivores in the same way that raccoons, rats and most bears are. if there's meat, we can eat it, if there isn't, well, then that's perfectly alright for our digestion.

too much meat is terrible for you though.

Animals and people are not equal.

...people are animals.

And Honestly, I wouldn't mind vegans so much if they weren't so vocal in telling me that meat is evil.

oh please. i've been a vegetarian for 5 years and i've never tried to convince someone not to eat meat but you would not believe how many times people have shoved meat in my face and tried to make me eat it. my mother has tried a number of times to slip chicken broth into my food and still harasses me to eat meat whenever i go home.

so don't tell me that vetetarians and vegans are preachy.

...people are animals.


Speak for yourself. I personally try to hold myself to higher standards than that. Physiologically we are, but intelectually and spiritually we are not. But thats another bigass can of worms.

Speak for yourself. I personally try to hold myself to higher standards than that. Physiologically we are, but intelectually and spiritually we are not. But thats another bigass can of worms.
we are part of the kingdom animalia, thus we are animals...

and dolphins are at least as smart as us, but you're not out putting them into a new category, now are you?

Oh, but many of them are. They feel enlightened and that he rest of us are poor misguided dumbasses. Know I know this inot true for all vegans. one of my roomates is a vegan, yet he never brings it up. Except when we forget to order the pizza w/o the pepperonis. :)

How are dolphin's at least as smart as us. When's the last time you saw a dolphin in intelligent discourse like we are having now? They maybe smart, but their brains missing a few key parts. As for Kingdom Animalia, I did agree that we are physically animals. However, a human is so much more than its physiology. Otherwise, we would not be having this discussion.

Oh, but many of them are. They feel enlightened and that he rest of us are poor misguided dumbasses. Know I know this inot true for all vegans. one of my roomates is a vegan, yet he never brings it up. Except when we forget to order the pizza w/o the pepperonis. :)
how is he vegan unless he also chastizes you for not ordering hte pizza without the cheese?

the thing is, i don't know a single preachy vegan or vegetarian and i know plenty of preachy meat eaters.

Gotta go, I enjoyed sparring with you, though. You are a very good debator (debateur?)

How are dolphin's at least as smart as us. When's the last time you saw a dolphin in intelligent discourse like we are having now? They maybe smart, but their brains missing a few key parts. As for Kingdom Animalia, I did agree that we are physically animals. However, a human is so much more than its physiology. Otherwise, we would not be having this discussion.
umm... dolphins do have language, we don't understand their language but we know they have it. as far as we know they could have religions and be having philosophical discussions all the time...

the only key parts they're missing are opposable thumbs. that's really the only advantage we have over them.

umm... dolphins do have language, we don't understand their language but we know they have it. as far as we know they could have religions and be having philosophical discussions all the time...

the only key parts they're missing are opposable thumbs. that's really the only advantage we have over them.
Oooh. I am so scared...BEWARE THE DOLPHINS!!!!!

Hey I've got an idea, maybe Atlantis was an ancient dolphin civilisation. Maybe they're planning to build amphibious weapons to allow them to invade the land and take over the world.

umm... dolphins do have language, we don't understand their language but we know they have it. as far as we know they could have religions and be having philosophical discussions all the time...

the only key parts they're missing are opposable thumbs. that's really the only advantage we have over them.

What weed have you been smoking?

There is a difference between Language and communication. Cats communicate, does that mean they have a language? Dogs communicate, does that mean they have a language?

Dolphin "language" is probably as advanced as what Homo erectus had. They can say "Come here" "I'm hungry", "Lets play", and "Kill kill!", but they cant go "Well, if you REALLY think about it Seaweed is alive."
"No its not!"
"Yes it is! Look, it's green!"
"So what?!?!?"
"It means that they are alive."
"..."
"Yes, my genius amazes me too sometimes..."

What weed have you been smoking?

There is a difference between Language and communication. Cats communicate, does that mean they have a language? Dogs communicate, does that mean they have a language?

Dolphin "language" is probably as advanced as what Homo erectus had. They can say "Come here" "I'm hungry", "Lets play", and "Kill kill!", but they cant go "Well, if you REALLY think about it Seaweed is alive."
"No its not!"
"Yes it is! Look, it's green!"
"So what?!?!?"
"It means that they are alive."
"..."
"Yes, my genius amazes me too sometimes..."
i haven't been smoking anything recently.

i read an article in which some people who were studying dolphins came to the conclusion that they have a language that is at least as complex as ours.

I think they're hearts are in the right place, and that animals do face so much needless suffering, but they take it to the BS end of the spectrum.

"Sometimes a sacrifice is needed for the greater good." -? [help me out here...]

Okay, I'm back and I gotta say that I agree with lightning star, although I might have out it in a less insulting manner. I perosnally go by rate the opinion not the person. If you think somethings bunk, say so. But don' say that someone has a brain malfunction if they believe that. If you insult them you invoke arguement ad hominem thereby making your arguement seem less valid to the opposing side.

i haven't been smoking anything recently.

i read an article in which some people who were studying dolphins came to the conclusion that they have a language that is at least as complex as ours.

Believe only half of what you read and even less of what you hear. For every article that says that, you can probably find another debunking it. My point: Science is subjective because it is subject to subjective beings.

Okay, I'm back and I gotta say that I agree with lightning star, although I might have out it in a less insulting manner. I perosnally go by rate the opinion not the person. If you think somethings bunk, say so. But don' say that someone has a brain malfunction if they believe that. If you insult them you invoke arguement ad hominem thereby making your arguement seem less valid to the opposing side.

I'm sorry. It' just "What weed have you been smoking" is a phrase I use alot. Usualy in a joking way.

But you people aren't as totally friggen awesome as me to realize it :D
(J/k on that last part)

Sorry, I just assumed. Assume makes an ASS out of U and ME. :P

Sorry pretty cheesy saying, but it holds true.

Sorry, I just assumed. Assume makes an ASS out of U and ME. :P

Heh heh! I know that saying!

Heh heh! I know that saying!
I hear it about twice a week. Usually for a very good reason.

I hear it about twice a week. Usually for a very good reason.

Lol.

Some of the things the organization does are very silly. Some of the things they say make my jaw drop in amazement. I'm simply an omnivore. I will eat anything if it tastes good. I am also one of those assholes who can eat a ton and still look fit. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.