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Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??
Im sure you are as anxious as I am to find out why France isnt on that list,
c'mon US americans Y'all got some explaining to do boys.

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Canada 1984-85
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??


eh?

eh?
We are waitin in this thread to find out why those evil americans didnt nuke paris after the rainbow warrior incident.

We are waitin in this thread to find out why those evil americans didnt nuke paris after the rainbow warrior incident.

Damn right they should have!

I guess i didn't make it obvious that i snuck another country in the list in my quote :(

I live in a blue state.

Damn right they should have!

I guess i didn't make it obvious that i snuck another country in the list in my quote :(
When Canada is dead and gone they will be no more Celine Dion!
Cant believe I missed that man, nicely done.

I live in a blue state.
...and?

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??


You missed China 1999.

...and?
Im guessing hes waiting for someone from a red state to come and defend the USAs failure to nuke France.

You know what? The world would be a giant cesspool of chaos if we Americans did not have the power and the resolve to put down evil when we see it. Not to say that nobody has gotten away with evil on our watch. There have been plenty that we've missed. Guess we better get busy making more bombs, to stabilize the world, protect the innocent, and deter evil dictators from ruling the world. Stopping Hitler, Killing terrorists, saving Kuwait STOPPING THE RED TIDE (USSR). All of Europe, no all the world should be grateful for all of the brave americans who have lost their lives defending them. God bless all of those people less fortunate who have had war within their borders during the last 100 years!! War is truly horrible!! BUT TO SIT AROUND AND POINT FINGERS AT THE USA WHILE WE ARE DYING FOR YOU IS SHAMEFUL!!!!!

You know what? The world would be a giant cesspool of chaos if we Americans did not have the power and the resolve to put down evil when we see it. Not to say that nobody has gotten away with evil on our watch. There have been plenty that we've missed. Guess we better get busy making more bombs, to stabilize the world, protect the innocent, and deter evil dictators from ruling the world. Stopping Hitler, Killing terrorists, saving Kuwait STOPPING THE RED TIDE (USSR). All of Europe, no all the world should be grateful for all of the brave americans who have lost their lives defending them. God bless all of those people less fortunate who have had war within their borders during the last 100 years!! War is truly horrible!! BUT TO SIT AROUND AND POINT FINGERS AT THE USA WHILE WE ARE DYING FOR YOU IS SHAMEFUL!!!!!
Thats all well and good, but why is France not a smoking ruin?

Bungles,

I am British. In each of the cases mentioned the US was acting to offset some threat to global order. The US has a vested interest in this order because they are at the top of the hierarchy, but so do I, and so do you, because the absence of order and authority is one of the worst evils in this world. And aren't we fortunate we have a liberal order, that the US and its allies protect our rights to criticise it and lobby and demonstrate against it?

Just for argument's sake, can you justify the invasion of South Korea by North Korea that brought the US and Britain to her defence, and therefore precipitated such bombing?

I may be a Jesus freak but we're in a corrupt world. We are often confined to choose not the perfect path but the lesser of all the evils when we act.

Alex

PS Blessed Assurance: Don't forget the nearly 3 million Brits and Empire/Commonwealth men and women who died for this cause in the 20th century either :)

I was an American soldier in the 82nd Airborne for 5 years. I spent 4 of them in peace keeping missions around the world (PROTECTING) people who could not protect themselves. I was in Sinai, and at the same time my brother was in Bosnia. I get kind of emotional when we are put down for diong what we did. We shed blood sweat and tears to help people half way around the world.

I don't know what your cause is? Is it the imposiiton of democracy and liberty?

If so, how do you justify all the dictators the US has supported over these decades too?

Men like Sadam Hussein (remember him?)
Suharto in Indonesia
Batista in Cuba
Pol Pot in Cambodia (it was the evil North Vietnamese that got rid of him)
The Argentinian dictatorship of the late 70s
Uribe in Colombia now

And many others too.

I agree the US is interested in maintaining world order, but it's not for altruistic reasons.

I don't know what your cause is? Is it the imposiiton of democracy and liberty?

If so, how do you justify all the dictators the US has supported over these decades too?

Men like Sadam Hussein (remember him?)
Suharto in Indonesia
Batista in Cuba
Pol Pot in Cambodia (it was the evil North Vietnamese that got rid of him)
The Argentinian dictatorship of the late 70s
Uribe in Colombia now

And many others too.

I agree the US is interested in maintaining world order, but it's not for altruistic reasons.
Dude is it true that Zippy and George were gay lovers?

Trust me, I have made a lot of friends in the British Airborne Corps. I was awarded British Wings for doing a jump with a british jumpmaster. 10,000 of them came to fort bragg, North Carolina for a joint exercise. They are awesome soldiers dedicated and determined. And above all, even with harsh criticism, the brits have done what they think is right. Much appreciated.

Im sure you are as anxious as I am to find out why France isnt on that list,
c'mon US americans Y'all got some explaining to do boys.

Our targetting systems haven't been working properly. :(

Dude is it true that Zippy and George were gay lovers?


It's true. They still live together now in a caravan on the Devon coast.

Trust me, I have made a lot of friends in the British Airborne Corps. I was awarded British Wings for doing a jump with a british jumpmaster. 10,000 of them came to fort bragg, North Carolina for a joint exercise. They are awesome soldiers dedicated and determined. And above all, even with harsh criticism, the brits have done what they think is right. Much appreciated.

I'm not questioning your personal integrity, but am questioning your government's.

Have you ever considered that you are ruled by bad people?

Look it up, america has a trade deficit with everyone, Meaning our wealth is going out to you. We give more financial aid than most countries total GDP. We invest globally we support emerging democracies, Our faith based organizations are world renowned for helping people. WE ARE NOT PERFECT!!! But we're not that bad either.... Give us a break.

Ok this was pointed out earlier. But why the fuck isn't France on that list you silly gun-shy Americans :p
Them bastards with all their nuclear testing in the Pacific Ocean deserved to be bombed.

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??


Yes, we defend it all the time.

With more bombs.

WE ARE NOT RULED!! by anyone. We are governed by the most democratically elected and diverse cross section of people from all over the world. Go to congress.gov, look at how many nationalities are represented in our government. Something you all forget is that america is only 200 years old. EVERYONE HERE IS AN IMMIGRANT.

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??

Well, I'm an American, and you have a point. Everyone is bashing Bush for the Iraq war. But virtually no one was arguing with Clinton on the bombing of Yugoslavia. At least in Iraq oil is an excuse! Yugoslavia had nothing. We did not get UN approval. Slobo has killed less than Saddam. He had no interest in spreading outside of the pieces of the former country. He had no WMD. Essentially every excuse used for Yugoslavia could have been used for Iraq, but nobody busted Clinton for it.

Ok this was pointed out earlier. But why the fuck isn't France on that list you silly gun-shy Americans :p
Them bastards with all their nuclear testing in the Pacific Ocean deserved to be bombed.

Every time I think that the French are wimps, I remember what they did to that Greenpeace boat in the South Pacific. The protest boat wouldn't move, so the French sunk it. Beautiful piece of work! I must applaud you on that!

I did´nt ask for amerikans keep my country in order. Mc. Dollar is the ultimate WMD. I cannot support crocodile tears shed by these so called "defenders of faith, moral, common sense, hamburgers, wathever". American soldiers are not victims. Are just idiots that think they have a mission in the countries of someone else. They just see too many movies. Poor fellows.

Well, I'm an American, and you have a point. Everyone is bashing Bush for the Iraq war. But virtually no one was arguing with Clinton on the bombing of Yugoslavia. At least in Iraq oil is an excuse! Yugoslavia had nothing. We did not get UN approval. Slobo has killed less than Saddam. He had no interest in spreading outside of the pieces of the former country. He had no WMD. Essentially every excuse used for Yugoslavia could have been used for Iraq, but nobody busted Clinton for it.
Clinton had sex in the White House though. He is a whole different breed of president. Best Clinton quote:

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement... Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true”

Dude, he kicks ass.

Well, I'm an American, and you have a point. Everyone is bashing Bush for the Iraq war. But virtually no one was arguing with Clinton on the bombing of Yugoslavia. At least in Iraq oil is an excuse! Yugoslavia had nothing. We did not get UN approval. Slobo has killed less than Saddam. He had no interest in spreading outside of the pieces of the former country. He had no WMD. Essentially every excuse used for Yugoslavia could have been used for Iraq, but nobody busted Clinton for it.

heh Micheal Moore did. Well he openingly mentioned the US's international exploits while Clinton was in power.

I really feel sorry for all of you self hating Americans. Sorry your guy lost the election, maybe next time. I'm sure he's a good guy and it's obvious he loves his country. But Where do you get off being apologetic to people from other countries for who our president is. I say get the vote out next time get a better candidate, and good luck.

PS Reguarding my passion, it's not meant to be a personal attack, I guess this has been building up for a while.

I gotta go till tonight, more on this later.

You know what? The world would be a giant cesspool of chaos if we Americans did not have the power and the resolve to put down evil when we see it. Not to say that nobody has gotten away with evil on our watch. There have been plenty that we've missed. Guess we better get busy making more bombs, to stabilize the world, protect the innocent, and deter evil dictators from ruling the world. Stopping Hitler, Killing terrorists, saving Kuwait STOPPING THE RED TIDE (USSR). All of Europe, no all the world should be grateful for all of the brave americans who have lost their lives defending them. God bless all of those people less fortunate who have had war within their borders during the last 100 years!! War is truly horrible!! BUT TO SIT AROUND AND POINT FINGERS AT THE USA WHILE WE ARE DYING FOR YOU IS SHAMEFUL!!!!!

This post just broke my wank-o-meter.

This post just broke my wank-o-meter.
Woah coincidence! My Idiotic Rubbish meter just blew up.
EDIT: When I read the post it blew up!

Woah coincidence! My Idiotic Rubbish meter just blew up.
EDIT: When I read the post it blew up!
Thats what you get for buying one of those French Idiotic Rubbish Meters.

Thats what you get for buying one of those French Idiotic Rubbish Meters.

You buy one and it just breaks the next fuckin' day like a McDonald's kid's meal toy.

Thats what you get for buying one of those French Idiotic Rubbish Meters.
Damn, but the American ones were endorsed by Bush. Thought the levels of "idiotic rubbish" might be slightly more reasonable/understanable with the French version.

WE ARE NOT RULED!! by anyone. We are governed by the most democratically elected and diverse cross section of people from all over the world. Go to congress.gov, look at how many nationalities are represented in our government. Something you all forget is that america is only 200 years old. EVERYONE HERE IS AN IMMIGRANT.

Venezuela has a more democratic constitution than the US. As you say, look it up. But, that doesn't stop your country trying to oust Chavez. Secondly, the US has oldest active constitution in the world. Perhpas it could use updating?

I think you have a slightly vulgar understanding of economics, but never mind. I don't blame you, you've been well and truly brainwashed.

Venezuela has a more democratic constitution than the US. As you say, look it up. But, that doesn't stop your country trying to oust Chavez. Secondly, the US has oldest active constitution in the world. Perhpas it could use updating?

I think you have a slightly vulgar understanding of economics, but never mind. I don't blame you, you've been well and truly brainwashed.
Absolutely spot on! Hes been influenced by French propaganda only when France is destroyed will he be free, why wont the Americans see sense?























































































































Wont somebody please think of the children?

Ha! Brilliance. The French should be subjected to some kind of Iraq like situation.

:gundge: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :gundge: :gundge: Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53

They were a menace. Not only did they adopt a system that most Americans can't understand, they also looked at the US funny.

Korea 1950-53

Protecting South Korea from the Red menance by bombing the crap out of them. They also looked at the US funny.

Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69

The US hates chilli that much.

Indonesia 1958

It's a secret plot so that Indonesia gets so pissed off they invade the nearest European country (Us, Australia) and they won't have to put up with kangaroos ever again.

Cuba 1959-61

They want their cigars

Congo 1964

"If I have to attend another one of their stupid party lines..."
That's Conga lines Mr Bush
"Whatever"

Peru 1965

They refuse to return the lawn mower or turn their music down.

Laos 1964-73

They had it coming. For what I don't know...

Vietnam 1961-73

Ho Chi Minh was a danger to society! So what if he wanted to introduce shorter working hours, cancel all public debts and create an independant Vietnam. He was dangerous! Kinda like President Diem of South Vietnam who persecuted Buddhists and caused many leading monks to light themselves on fire and who the US employed and then the CIA bumped off... Wait no, bad example.

Cambodia 1969-70

They also refused to return the lawn mower or turn their music down.

Lebanon 1983-84

There was a cat that moved and they thought it had WMDs... Sorry about that...

Grenada 1983

Sounds to similar to a code name for marijuana. By the way how's the war on drugs going there anyway?

Libya 1986

They looked at the US rather strangely

El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s

The US didn't like them at the time. But now they're part of the coalition of the willing everyone in the US loves them!

Panama 1989

Stupid hats

Bosnia 1995

Never trust a country with a name like that...

Sudan 1998

This was during the whole transition stage of William Cohen, the US Secretary of Defense at the time, from wimpy poet, to killer of innocent civillians. What a brave man.

Former Yugoslavia 1999

See Bosnia

Iraq 1991-??

No reason. Just seems like a really good place to bomb/invade

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??

They were housing a dangerous man who attacked the twin towers and who the CIA gave $3 billion dollars worth of training to and who the US also had a good business relationship with. How does that sound George?
"Edit out the last part"

So in summation:

The US say that all rich white men are equal. If you aren't rich and white :sniper: :mp5:

Wont somebody please think of the children?

Everytime someone says 'won't somebody please think of the children', God kills a toddler.

http://www.bridges4kids.org/images/toddler-flowers.jpg

Say goodbye to little Billie. As a straight white middle-class male, he was in for a damn good life.

Everytime someone says 'won't somebody please think of the children', God kills a toddler.

http://www.bridges4kids.org/images/toddler-flowers.jpg

Say goodbye to little Billie. As a straight white middle-class male, he was in for a damn good life.
Billy was a french spy. So God wanted him dead anyway.
Wake up America
























LeGaytricks has you.

Nooooo! Not the gay agenda!

*starts singing that song from Candide* And here I am, heart broken, forced to glitter, forced to be gay...

Well, it had to be done.

WE ARE NOT RULED!! by anyone. We are governed by the most democratically elected and diverse cross section of people from all over the world. Go to congress.gov, look at how many nationalities are represented in our government. Something you all forget is that america is only 200 years old. EVERYONE HERE IS AN IMMIGRANT.

Australia is FAR more multicultural than America.

EVERYONE HERE IS AN IMMIGRANT.

I think your indigenous peoples would have something to say about that... technically they are immigrants of a sort, but in the sense of the word that I think you mean, they aren't.

Sorry. Had to be pedantic and pick at this one...

I think your indigenous peoples would have something to say about that... technically they are immigrants of a sort, but in the sense of the word that I think you mean, they aren't.

Sorry. Had to be pedantic and pick at this one...

Maybe s/he meant "everyone is an immigrant unless they live in Africa where the human race originated"?

Nah.

Maybe s/he meant "everyone is an immigrant unless they live in Africa where the human race originated"?

Nah.
I took it to mean "everyone is an immigrant unless they are French, in which case they were placed here by Satan"

I'm right arent I?

Australia is FAR more multicultural than America.

hahahahhahahhahahahahahah,

Oh, that was serious... erm

Australia multicultural isnt that an oxymoron?

hahahahhahahhahahahahahah,

Oh, that was serious... erm

Australia multicultural isnt that an oxymoron?
Slagging off Australia?
The endtimes are here!
The Anti-Crikey has arrived.

hahahahhahahhahahahahahah,

Oh, that was serious... erm

Australia multicultural isnt that an oxymoron?

I kinda thought so...

hahahahhahahhahahahahahah,

Oh, that was serious... erm

Australia multicultural isnt that an oxymoron?

Well, it is multicultural isn't it? It's not just the descendants of English undesirables.

OMG a fellow Bristolian.

Oh? How is it an oxymoron?

Slagging off Australia?
The endtimes are here!
The Anti-Crikey has arrived.

I am thieving you're word 'anti-crikey' and giving you only a somewhat glittery number 2 pencil in return/

Oh? How is it an oxymoron?

Because in Australia we aren't really that multi-cultural... Although by comparison, we are more multi-cultural than America, but we still lock up refugees from neighbouring nations...

You know what? The world would be a giant cesspool of chaos if we Americans did not have the power and the resolve to put down evil when we see it. Not to say that nobody has gotten away with evil on our watch. There have been plenty that we've missed. Guess we better get busy making more bombs, to stabilize the world, protect the innocent, and deter evil dictators from ruling the world. Stopping Hitler, Killing terrorists, saving Kuwait STOPPING THE RED TIDE (USSR). All of Europe, no all the world should be grateful for all of the brave americans who have lost their lives defending them. God bless all of those people less fortunate who have had war within their borders during the last 100 years!! War is truly horrible!! BUT TO SIT AROUND AND POINT FINGERS AT THE USA WHILE WE ARE DYING FOR YOU IS SHAMEFUL!!!!!

Yes, yes. The whole f****** world should be so thankful to the USA. As a person from (a non-facist) country allied in the axis side on WW2, I don't really see how the Americans have saved us. The world is a bit more complex place than "we-the-great-US-cowboys-in-white-hats" and "de-baad-guys". And this "rogue-state" bullshit. Check out pakistan. A dictator runs it, they have nuclear arsenal. And holy s**t, they are so close pals to the US, that they should really just get a room. All the things that Americans have done for the world can be counted of being:
1) taking directly care of their own intrests, or
2) taking care of their own business undirectly.
America is EVIL, I tell you, E-V-I-L! (Except for NHL, some comicbook publishers, few movie studios, a gamehouse or two, and Conan O'Brien)

But do nuke Paris, then the world would be in your debt.

Oh? How is it an oxymoron?

To be multicultural, there has to be some culture to start with. Unfortunately the internatio9nal image of OZ is that of Bruce cussing Sheila whillst downing a few tinnies. i.e. no culture.

This is of course a stereotype, but a dominant one :)

I really feel sorry for all of you self hating Americans. Sorry your guy lost the election, maybe next time. I'm sure he's a good guy and it's obvious he loves his country. But Where do you get off being apologetic to people from other countries for who our president is. I say get the vote out next time get a better candidate, and good luck.

PS Reguarding my passion, it's not meant to be a personal attack, I guess this has been building up for a while.We're not "self-hating".

We hate the 51% of our countrymen who demonstrated a lack of frontal lobe function.

I'm not sure what this thread is supposed to accomplish really. We're the country who brought you the quote "In order to save the village, it became necessary to destroy it."

With that kind of mentality prevelant, do you think a list like that will bring anything more than high-fives?

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??

I don't defend it. America has done these things, and really, there's no use trying to get americans to defend it. America is like any other super-power interventionist and afraid, so when it feels like it needs to show itself off it will go a bombing and a-invading. It's just that America has cultivated such a propaganda around itself that most people feel a bit disillusioned with all thats going on.

Oh, and Blessed Assurance, while america might be made up of mostly immigrants, it tends to show that the white guy has a statistical advantage over everyone else. That is not individuals, but the general mass. Since I lived in California for most of my life and all I get bombarded by is white men and women on the telly or what, while we all believe in everyone being multi-cultural there is no evidence of that happening. The sterotype of America is a white man or woman, and until we get past that we're screwed, mate.

England, you'd think the sterotype would be the white man but then the indian, pakistinians and what would trash you. Then the scottish and welsh and irish, cause they just feel like beating up we englishmen for subjugating them.

Oh yeah, to clarify, I am Asian by blood, and by nationality american and british.

I don't know what your cause is? Is it the imposiiton of democracy and liberty?

If so, how do you justify all the dictators the US has supported over these decades too?

Men like Sadam Hussein (remember him?)
Suharto in Indonesia
Batista in Cuba
Pol Pot in Cambodia (it was the evil North Vietnamese that got rid of him)
The Argentinian dictatorship of the late 70s
Uribe in Colombia now

And many others too.

I agree the US is interested in maintaining world order, but it's not for altruistic reasons.

The North Vietnamese ARE (or at least were) evil.

The North Vietnamese ARE evil, and I'm right.
Its because they used to be a French colony

Somebody has to get bombed and somebody has to the bombing. Right now it's our turn to do the bombing, and we get to pick who gets bombed.

Bleh, dont care much about the frogs (Foreign Legion is pretty f'in cool though innit?) but anyway, nuke Paris and everywhere around the world there are suddenly massive debts. G7 and Paris being one of the trading capitals of the world (Dont think America is the home of that, americans...actually go out and visit these places and you begin to see america from a different perspective. London is a trading capital too)

People of USA!

Wage war on your own soil
and keep your hands off from Iraq's oil!

What a rhyme.

-snip-
You forgot Poland! :D

You know what? The world would be a giant cesspool of chaos if we Americans did not have the power and the resolve to put down evil when we see it. Not to say that nobody has gotten away with evil on our watch. There have been plenty that we've missed. Guess we better get busy making more bombs, to stabilize the world, protect the innocent, and deter evil dictators from ruling the world. Stopping Hitler, Killing terrorists, saving Kuwait STOPPING THE RED TIDE (USSR). All of Europe, no all the world should be grateful for all of the brave americans who have lost their lives defending them. God bless all of those people less fortunate who have had war within their borders during the last 100 years!! War is truly horrible!! BUT TO SIT AROUND AND POINT FINGERS AT THE USA WHILE WE ARE DYING FOR YOU IS SHAMEFUL!!!!!


You want to know what's truly shameful??
Americans killing innocent civilians!! that's what's shameful.
while they are there trying to "bring peace" or whatever the hell they are pretending to do, they are killing innocent civilians and blaming it on the people there for misguiding them into thinking that they had bombs on them.
i'm not saying america hasn't helped in some places, mostly in the past.
but as of lately they are not doing ANYTHING at all for the good of ANYONE and that includes americans. they leave those poor boys to fight and they sit at home in those comfy chairs and laugh and plot more wars to bring onto other countries.
and instead of trying to fix the crap right here in this country, all the drugs and homeless and orphans, they sit there and try to "help" other countries that DON'T want them there!! try to fix here first.
don't tell me you don't think that the money that is going for this "war" would be better put to use right here in the US??

You want to know what's truly shameful??
Americans killing innocent civilians!! that's what's shameful.
while they are there trying to "bring peace" or whatever the hell they are pretending to do, they are killing innocent civilians and blaming it on the people there for miss guiding them into thinking that they had bombs on them.
i'm not saying america hasn't helped in some places, mostly in the past.
but as of lately they are not doing ANYTHING at all for the good of ANYONE and that includes americans. they leave those poor boys to fight and they sit at home in those comfy chairs and laugh and plot more wars to bring onto other countries.
and instead of trying to fix the crap right here in this country, all the drugs and homeless and orphans, they sit there and try to "help" other countries that DON'T want them there!! try to fix here first.
don't tell me you don't think that the money that is going for this "war" would be better put to use right here in the US?? Well spoken.

Why won't France join that list dammit!

Bungles,

I am British. In each of the cases mentioned the US was acting to offset some threat to global order. The US has a vested interest in this order because they are at the top of the hierarchy, but so do I, and so do you, because the absence of order and authority is one of the worst evils in this world. And aren't we fortunate we have a liberal order, that the US and its allies protect our rights to criticise it and lobby and demonstrate against it?

Just for argument's sake, can you justify the invasion of South Korea by North Korea that brought the US and Britain to her defence, and therefore precipitated such bombing?

I may be a Jesus freak but we're in a corrupt world. We are often confined to choose not the perfect path but the lesser of all the evils when we act.
Well, to be precise, the military action against the North Korean and Chinese invasion of South Korean was a United Nations action, not a US one. I could probably eliminate several other countries from this list, but have better things to do than cater to flame-baiters. :D

Why won't France join that list dammit! Why the hell do you want France on that list?! :eek:

Bleh, dont care much about the frogs (Foreign Legion is pretty f'in cool though innit?) but anyway, nuke Paris and everywhere around the world there are suddenly massive debts. G7 and Paris being one of the trading capitals of the world (Dont think America is the home of that, americans...actually go out and visit these places and you begin to see america from a different perspective. London is a trading capital too)

True, Tokyo, New York, and London make the most money =(

But still, Paris a trading capital? All Paris does is ship lots o annoying people to U.S. and poisen the food at their local PathMark.

I was an American soldier in the 82nd Airborne for 5 years. I spent 4 of them in peace keeping missions around the world (PROTECTING) people who could not protect themselves. I was in Sinai, and at the same time my brother was in Bosnia. I get kind of emotional when we are put down for diong what we did. We shed blood sweat and tears to help people half way around the world.

Maybe so, but a peacekeeping mission in a region whose inhabitants are generally fiendly to the foreign troops is totally different from a bombing mission of aggression against a people or an occupation of a country whose inhabitants are generally hostile to foreign aggression and occupation.

I am not pointing fingers at you for being stationed in Sinai or ur brotha for being in Bosnia. I would, however, if you were stationed in, say, the Sunni triangle in Iraq.

Secondly, the US has oldest active constitution in the world. Perhpas it could use updating?We have these neat little things called amendments for our Constitution. That's basically what those do. You might want to look that up.

People of USA!

Wage war on your own soil
and keep your hands off from Iraq's oil!

What a rhyme.

Yes. There can be no cooler war in the world than another American civil war. I'd be glued on the TV 24/7 to see news reports n stuff. Also, the rest of the world be a slightly safer place knowing that american military and economic aggression is no longer imminent.

I'd say the Marines and Air Force should declare war against the Army and Navy. That would rock.

We have these neat little things called amendments for our Constitution. That's basically what those do. You might want to look that up. All people are equal, that's what your constitution says, right? Why don't you behave that way, then?

We have these neat little things called amendments for our Constitution. That's basically what those do. You might want to look that up.

I meant start from scratch, I suspect you knew that.

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries
...
Let's be positive people!
Looking at the glass as half-full rather than half-empty, we can say say that there's 200+ countries that the US hasn't bombed.
At least not yet.
I'm sure GWB will be aiming to rectify that soon.

All people are equal, that's what your constitution says, right? Why don't you behave that way, then?Basically, it's because people are stupid, and because there is no law (that I am aware of) prohibiting individuals from being or acting racist, people feel that is morally right to be racist and to discriminate. It's a problem with our people, not the Constitution.

I meant start from scratch, I suspect you knew that.I assumed by "update" you meant "change or edit" rather than "scrap a currently working system and start over." That's an error on my part; sorry.

Thats all well and good, but why is France not a smoking ruin?
Speaking on behalf of all Georgians, everywhere, I would like to apologize for that oversight. As this is written, F-16s from our Air National Guard are speeding toward Paris. These aircraft are armed with cannister weapons containing Kudzu seeds. Before you know it, Paris, Tennessee will be covered in green, viney plants and will beg for the mercy of atomic weapons.

What's that? Not Tennessee? Not Kentucky? Where in the heck is there another Paris? ... France? Oh. Never mind.

Well, I'm an American, and you have a point. Everyone is bashing Bush for the Iraq war. But virtually no one was arguing with Clinton on the bombing of Yugoslavia. At least in Iraq oil is an excuse! Yugoslavia had nothing. We did not get UN approval. Slobo has killed less than Saddam. He had no interest in spreading outside of the pieces of the former country. He had no WMD. Essentially every excuse used for Yugoslavia could have been used for Iraq, but nobody busted Clinton for it.

Amen...bravo....i have said that before...but it falls on deaf ears...clintons can do no wrong remember?

All people are equal, that's what your constitution says, right? Why don't you behave that way, then?
That was the Declaration of Independence.

Since the Second World War
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
has bombed 21 countries

China 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-61
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Lebanon 1983-84
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Bosnia 1995
Sudan 1998
Former Yugoslavia 1999
Iraq 1991-??
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-??
No, it's indefensible. We should bomb more countries more often. It's cheaper than sending in troops.

Basically, it's because people are stupid, and because there is no law (that I am aware of) prohibiting individuals from being or acting racist, people feel that is morally right to be racist and to discriminate. It's a problem with our people, not the Constitution.

I assumed by "update" you meant "change or edit" rather than "scrap a currently working system and start over." That's an error on my part; sorry.
The Fifteenth and Nineteenth amendments to the Constitution outrightly prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex, color, etc when it comes to voting. The Equal Protection clause is widely held to prohibit discrimination in other matters.

What was the question,then?

"If I have to attend another one of their stupid party lines..."
That's Conga lines Mr Bush
"Whatever"


That made Dr Pepper come out my nose.

The Fifteenth and Nineteenth amendments to the Constitution outrightly prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex, color, etc when it comes to voting. The Equal Protection clause is widely held to prohibit discrimination in other matters.

What was the question,then?
That still does not prohibit individuals from being or acting racist.

That was the Declaration of Independence.

Shh... you and I don't know that. We Americans are just stupid imbeciles.

And to answer the question: because, erm, we don't mind our own business?

That still does not prohibit individuals from being or acting racist.
Not directly. Equal opportunity laws prohibit employers and landlords from using race to choose employees or tenants. It's probably a little more far reaching than that, but you get the idea, I hope. There are laws that prohibit racist actions on the part of individuals, as well as government.

Now, I agree that you can't pass a law that will stop me from thinking that everyone born with brown eyes is genetically inferior to anyone born with blue eyes, but that's the way some people are.

I'm not even sure that that is completely true, though. All of the "hate-crime" laws that have been adopted try to make the punishment more severe if the victim was attacked because of some predjudice on the part of the attacker. So maybe we do have laws agains "bad" thoughts.

Batista in Cuba

Originally democratically elected.

Pol Pot in Cambodia (it was the evil North Vietnamese that got rid of him)

Pol Pot was a Communist, deposed by his own people.

Well, I'm an American, and you have a point. Everyone is bashing Bush for the Iraq war. But virtually no one was arguing with Clinton on the bombing of Yugoslavia. At least in Iraq oil is an excuse! Yugoslavia had nothing. We did not get UN approval. Slobo has killed less than Saddam. He had no interest in spreading outside of the pieces of the former country. He had no WMD. Essentially every excuse used for Yugoslavia could have been used for Iraq, but nobody busted Clinton for it.
That was a NATO humanitarian intervention. And so long as the UN accepts members such as North Korea, Iraq and the former Yugoslavia, it will not be an organization worthy of respect.

I live in a blue state.
And most of those dates are during Democratic administrations. ;)

Venezuela has a more democratic constitution than the US. As you say, look it up. But, that doesn't stop your country trying to oust Chavez. Secondly, the US has oldest active constitution in the world. Perhpas it could use updating?
It has been, 27 times.

I don't understand why you people continue to start pointless arguements that will never be resolved. Stupidity is a world-wide trait.

Australia is FAR more multicultural than America.
CIA Factbook sez:

Australia:
Ethnic groups:
Caucasian 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%

United States:
Ethnic groups:
white 77.1%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1.5%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.3%, other 4% (2000)

I was an American soldier in the 82nd Airborne for 5 years. I spent 4 of them in peace keeping missions around the world (PROTECTING) people who could not protect themselves. I was in Sinai, and at the same time my brother was in Bosnia. I get kind of emotional when we are put down for diong what we did. We shed blood sweat and tears to help people half way around the world.
Yes you do, and reasonable people all respect what you do. But are you really so naive as to believe that all your deployments are for the "good of the world"?

There are many in our government who'd dump your brave blood by the barrel on foreign soil to benefit their cronies, don't mistake blind mindless obedience and faith in a greedy politician for patriotism.

Or perhaps you're one of those who believes we're in Iraq because of WMDs? Or maybe to topple the dictator who we SUPPORTED FUNDED and ARMED back when his atrocities were actually happening?

All that respect we have for soldiers tends to diminish when they've lost the ability to think independently and can't admit that every government has corruption, every army gets used as a proxy for the business interests back home, and that war always involves torture, rape, and lots of dead civilians.

STOPPING THE RED TIDE (USSR).
Bwahahaha my "bombastic nutcase" meter just blew a fuse.

Communism didn't work, and it collapsed. That is not Bonzo's doing or the Marines'.

Can you believe my nation "Bungles Bollocks" was terminated because of this thread?

Isn't my questioning of US foreign policy a legitimate topic?

What about Freedom of Speech?

What a joke.

Beware!!: follow the Us govt. line or be exterminated!

This site is run by an Australian liberal. So, I don't know where you get the idea that this site is a federally owned site. I doubt that this thread is what got you deleted.

Isn't it true that only a Moderator can terminate a nation?

Can you believe my nation "Bungles Bollocks" was terminated because of this thread?

Isn't my questioning of US foreign policy a legitimate topic?

What about Freedom of Speech?

What a joke.

Beware!!: follow the Us govt. line or be exterminated!
You gotta be kidding? Maybe it was the fact that you had Bollocks in your name that got ya fucked over dude? This threads been a blast- havent seen anything offensive in it

Isn't it true that only a Moderator can terminate a nation?

Umm, mods terminate most nations, but yes an admin can terminate a nation. And I HIGHLY doubt you got sliced for this thread. There have been plenty of other inflammatory threads against America that the creator got no deletion.

a perfect example, amentment 1 being broke and also the one about being treated fairly.

and will all these Vietnam veterans quit it about,

"i fought for 30 years and died and then survived for you pinko long hairs to do this."

along the aussie line I think Mr murdoch has somthing to do with Ns