NationStates Jolt Archive

I personally like: the rise of Islam and medieval Europe/Islam. Japanese history can also be quite interesting too.

Rome!

World War 2 up until present

Everything else just seemed like mindless squabble over who gets to get the best headstart. Keep in mind, the actual wars are not something I enjoy, rather I enjoy the history behind it.

Rome!

Rome is really good for classical civilizations.

Rome (kingdom, republic, empire)
The 20th centuary (ie 1901 - 2001
The history of science
South America pre-Europeons
Asia (esp China and Japan)

Sorry, can't select one. Accounts of wars usually bore me, but I quite enjoyed Caesar's accounts of his own exploits. Too bad he wasn't there to write a history for Alexander.

The first decades of the 21st century. You do allow future history don't you?

The 90s were awesome. Pretty liberal American president and the best music.

More seriously, though, I think that the 20s and 30s in Germany cannot be overstudied. I think it is incredibly important to understand the factors that allowed Hitler to come to power. There is no easy answer to that question, and there never will be, but it must be avoided at all costs.

The older I get the less I believe one fucking word about history,
history is but a pack of tricks we play on the dead

The first decades of the 21st century. You do allow future history don't you?

Future history is a bit of a contradiction isn't it? ;)

I have no favourites, though I dislike most of the stuff that is pre-Ancient Greece/Rome...

CARTHAGE!

That's when the world was good. Before the barbarous Romans.

CARTHAGE!

That's when the world was good. Before the barbarous Romans.
Yes. Thats a pretty cool era.

CARTHAGE!

That's when the world was good. Before the barbarous Romans.

ROME!

I rather like the Classical era, but mostly I prefer the bits that you dont learn about a million times in school, like Korea, Egypt and Russia.
Tsarist Russia has a VERY neat history...Crimean War anybody?

I personally have an affinity for pre-Spanish colonisation South American history (Aztecs, Mayans, Incans, etc.).

Europe 1700-1914, from the War of the Spanish Succession to the begining of WWI. Especially the Napoleonic period (c. 1795-1815) and the Golden Age of Diplomacy before WWI (c. 1880-1914).

Europe 1700-1914, from the War of the Spanish Succession to the begining of WWI. Especially the Napoleonic period (c. 1795-1815) and the Golden Age of Diplomacy before WWI (c. 1880-1914).

You LIKE 19th Century Europe?

Please, please, please explain George Eliot's "Middlemarch" to me, if you've read it. Naughty favours forever if you can.

The USA's golden years: 1995-2000. Man do I miss Clinton...

Middle ages, Dark Ages, and then Celtic history

The Bubonic Plague era. Good times.

ROME!

CARTHAGE!!!

Japanese is first on my list. Especially Sengoku Jidai and Bakumatsu. Followed by Celtic and Scandinavian--pre-Roman, of course. I find all history interesting, but these are on the top of my list.

Mid to late fifties to mid sixties in Greenwich(sp?) Village and North Beach in San Francisco.

The literature and music movements I enjoy had their best moments around here. Though I wouldn't really like living during this time as I do not believe in 'the good old days.'

Yesterday around noon was nice.

The first 12 minutes following the Big Bang was pretty sweet.

The rest is just filler material.

YES!!! The Crimean War!! 19th Cent. history of warfare.
Napoleonic wars especially Peninsular campaign, Grande Armee
American Civil War (not to civil, if you ask me)
Also dabbled in Japan and Hundred Years War


I don't understand how no one can seem to like warfare, after all war is just another means of politics

AND SCREW CLINTON!

1924-1953: Stalinist Russia (and the power struggle after Lenin's death.
Edward the I, Edward the II and from his death (with a red hot poker up the arse, dontcha know) to the end of the 116 year war. Sorry, the 100 year war.

ww11


















yes i did say world war eleven

Dark ages Europe and the 18th and 19th Century America and Europe.

18th Century France
Medieval Far East
Modern World History, becuase it's so political (I love politics!). :D

I can never seem to be that interested in ancient history, becuase I fail to see the relevence today of a lot of it. True a basic knowledge is useful, but much of it is so overhyped it's insane. That said I enjoy all history so I'll still look into it etc!

Jacksonian Era (Post Civil War US)
The Industrial Revolution (World Wide)
The Great Depression and it's causes (World Wide)

Rome during the Reign of Caligula & Nero
(in) Soviet Russia (history makes you!)
pre-Christian Scandanavia

Medieval European History till the Early Modern Period.

And social History in the 19th Century

Future history is a bit of a contradiction isn't it? ;)

Only if future existence is contradictory. History being the narrative of existence. (Perhaps, we could lose the ability toi create narratives, this would also invalidate future history.) :)

It's all pretty interesting, whether it's 8000 years ago or last week. At least in my opinion.

Medieval Europe- England, France and the Holy Roman Empire.
English Civil Wars.
30 years War 1618-1648.
Wars of the Roses 1555-1585.
Punic Wars (Carthage).
Napoleonic Wars.
Celtic Wars of Independence.
Both World Wars.
Turko-Hugarian Wars.

Err... Think thats it really.

i have to also say the rise of Islam.
and rome was interesting as well.
i just like history, all of it.

550 to 250 million years ago. The age of the trilobites.

Rome
Ancient Eygpt
WWI
WWII
Now


I absolutly HATE colonial america times. It's so boring.

Oh, and the Medieval/ Rennisances times, like those too.

Bah, ONE other person mentions the Crimean War, which was sort of like practice for WWI. Nobody is interested in the post-Napoleon Russia using its oversized army (even by Russian standards) to make a territory grab and have it blow up?

The Mesozioc era, which occured between 250 - 65 million years ago.

Hey, you did ask! ;)

Rome

Rome is Satan in a time era. Do not like it.

/take out hypnosis watch/

You are getting sleeeeeepyy.... verrrrryy verrrry sleeeeeeeppyy...

When I snap my fingers, you will hate everyone who hates Carthage and rip out their brains....

*SNAP*

Bah, ONE other person mentions the Crimean War, which was sort of like practice for WWI. Nobody is interested in the post-Napoleon Russia using its oversized army (even by Russian standards) to make a territory grab and have it blow up?
Actually, you make it sound quite interesting.

By my knowledge of the Crimean war is limited to the knock-on effects it had in Britain (eg immigration)

Actually, you make it sound quite interesting.

By my knowledge of the Crimean war is limited to the knock-on effects it had in Britain (eg immigration)

All i know about it is from my "Eyewitness: Battle" book. It has a few pictures in it about that war.

OH! And it was also the first war with war correspondents!

Really though, the American Civil War was more of a precursor as to what WWI would be(near the end trenches became the confederates friends). It was also the first "Modern" war so to speak, seeing how they were both giant armies so they had to use different tactics.

Only problem is, only about .5% of Europeans actually looked at the tactics of the war. So the only people who learned anything were the Americans. Who had a "devil-may-care" attitude. As you can tell, the Europeans go tthemselves into the SAME mess the Confederates and Union peoples got into 50ish years before.

Actually, you make it sound quite interesting.

By my knowledge of the Crimean war is limited to the knock-on effects it had in Britain (eg immigration)
Well, basicaly Russia wanted a port in the Black Sea, and the Ottoman Empire owned all the good spots, so Russia said 'Hey, give us that or we will cause you pain.' and invaded.
France (Under Napoleon III, I think) and England went in to back up the Ottomans in hopes of gaining more access to Jeruselam, the English also had the secondary goal of removing a French symbol from the Holy Sephulcur (mispelled, most likely :P), a silver star, I think.
I beleive that the Russian casualties alone exceded one million, quite a huge number by the standards of the day, and one of the first uses of iron-sided ships (Basicaly sailing ships made of iron plates, they could barely move and werent of any use except as mobile forts).
I dont think the US had any involvment, we were still pissed at England, and I dont think we liked Napoleon the Third or the Tsar of the time, and we sure as hell werent going to support those heathen Mohammedians.

It also happened in the years 1854-1856 and involved some famous actions i.e. Charge of the light brigade and the battle of Balaclava.

And that :)
So yeah, it was a sort of European Civil War equivalent (technology wise)

CARTHAGE!

That's when the world was good. Before the barbarous Romans.

Agreed.

Spain, 1936-1939. The 'Heroic Years' of Spanish Anarchism.

If you want to know more about the Crimean War, click here:

http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5443/crimopen.htm

Very short, but to the point.

The bes was the time of Prussia

Austria fell
The Volkergiest
WW1
Kaiser Wilhelm
The Fredericks
The helmets
Machine gun
Uboats
Unrestricted submarine warfare
Partitions of Poland

All good. Anyway Rome is better then Carthrage since they won. But they were barbaric and called the nice germans barbarians

Anyway Rome is better then Carthrage since they won.

Is France better than Prussia since France won?

The 30 yrs war sucked only good it did was create Prussia. Screwed Germany over but not as much as the damn National Socalist who don't know how to run the Country. Barbarians.

-1600 and 1700s in Europe

-Late 1800s in Africa around the time in which the British were fighting the Zulus and the Boers.

France better then Prussia. Ha. Napolean was Italian who used the French army. Prussia destroyed the French in ww1. Any way the French never won. Napolean only conquered the West of the Rhine and was allied with the two German states until the Volkergeist created a Napoleanic hatred which allowed the Third Colation to defeat him at Waterloo. Lets count the victories

3 for Prussia All hail the Mighty Prussia
0 for France Ha ha ha ha ha. Strongest military power at least 2x the size of England and still lost.

Middle ages, Dark Ages, and then Celtic history


Agreed, completely. I love Celtic history, right up until the time that Christianity was introduced widely through the celtic areas. Historical King Arthur, anyone?

About 1200 to around 1350. The Era of the Mongol Khans. I mean, ffs, these guys thundered over 90 degrees of longitude and forged an empire that was never equalled, before or after.

After that.... Mebbe the era of the Crusader Kingdoms - Leper Kings, Orient-afied Westerners, Saladin and the farce of the 'Lion Hearted'.

France better then Prussia. Ha. Napolean was Italian who used the French army. Prussia destroyed the French in ww1. Any way the French never won. Napolean only conquered the West of the Rhine and was allied with the two German states until the Volkergeist created a Napoleanic hatred which allowed the Third Colation to defeat him at Waterloo. Lets count the victories

3 for Prussia All hail the Mighty Prussia
0 for France Ha ha ha ha ha. Strongest military power at least 2x the size of England and still lost.
But Prussia has been annihilated. The French Republic still alive and kicking. Germany today is half the size of the German Empire. The Prussian military tradition is dead, never to rise again.

My point is that just because a country and culture is destroyed by war doesn't mean it is worse than its conqueror. I like Germany more than France too even though the old German way of life has been buried by France and France's buddies. I also think Carthage's civilization was as good as if not better than Rome.

You LIKE 19th Century Europe?

Please, please, please explain George Eliot's "Middlemarch" to me, if you've read it. Naughty favours forever if you can.

Oh God...Middlemarch is an insidious disease sent to plague high school students! ;) If it helps, I think (and I'm not positive because it was a looong time ago that I was in high school!) Middlemarch is somewhat less political than some of Eliot's other novels. It does generally deal with the class divide and the rise of the middle class though. Fred's family thinking that Mary's not good enough for him, Dorothea marrying the rich guy to help her family rather than the guy she loves, etc. I can try to find my notes on it if you need specific help!

I majored in Art History so I know more about artistic eras than political ones but I've always had a fascination with ancient history (Egypt, Greece, China - less so Rome (sorry Sdaeriji!) because artistically they just ripped off Greece, for the most part), and the 'Gilded Age', the birth of Modernism (1870-1910 kind of time) - Impressionism, Post-Impressionism, and Art Nouveau. I know I'm romanticising it but to me it's a bit like the youth of the modern era, before WWI made Europe grow up in a hurry.

For a complete review of the military of the french please see:
http://miljokes.com/a/sep03/090903.htm

note: please do not read if you dont have a sense of humor.

favorite era has to be the golden age of rome. who doesn't love virgil? augustus? the aeneid?

I love the history of pre-Roman Europe, especilly Germanic and Celtic. Also early czarist Russia. Ivan the Terrible was the shit. Pre-colonial Africa is pretty cool too.

Does anyone else notice a Western bias here? From what I remember in school, the only Eastern, African, or even Islamic history we learned was when it directly affected the West.

Shame. I could mention Averroes, Tokugawa Iesu, Lu Bu, Dhong Zhuo or a hundred others and 99% of high schoolers nowadays would just stare at me blankly. Shame.

The world is getting boring...whatever happened to the ideal world domination that every country desired? We need to all go to war to see who claims victory. We could make bets on the winner as well. I got my money on the Philipines! Any takers?? Heh, I need to stop playing Risk...

Mine definately would have to be either the Italian Renaissance or the Baroque Era.

There was a time not so long ago when new legends were possible at Notre Dame. From 1964 through the 1974 season, Ara Parseghian was the Fighting Irish coach, completing its Football Trinity with Rockne and Leahy. In the early '70s it was not difficult to see, even without the perspective time now provides, that a new legend was being added to Notre Dame's litany.

Like its truest believers, Notre Dame has always been most in love with Notre Dame, particularly the image of Notre Dame. In pursuit of maintaining that image since Frank Leahy's departure in the early '50s, the school has achieved an uneven history at best in the hiring of its most visible symbol, its football coach.

Since the Era of Ara, the Notre Dame football program has had Devine, a better name than concept; Faust, a better concept than name; Holtz, a big name that ultimately wore out its welcome; and Davie, which has Devine appearances with potentially Faustian consequences.

School administrators, against the better judgment of its athletic leadership, preferred hiring Dan Devine to Ara Parseghian in 1964. The late, great athletic director, Moose Krause, won out that time, and the Era of Ara ultimately enhanced Notre Dame's legendary status.

Eleven years later, the administration finally had its way and rescued Devine from the rapidly deteriorating scrap heap of his tenure with the NFL Packers in Green Bay -- where another legendary Catholic figure, Vince Lombardi, looms large even today. Even though Devine, like Parseghian, produced a national championship, he failed to crack the Notre Dame Trinity and win the hearts of the faithful.

Gerry Faust, ever clutching his Rosary beads, perfectly fit the image that Hollywood created and Notre Dame so carefully nurtured in the film, "Knute Rockne, All American." Unfortunately, Faust wasn't a very good college football coach.

Lou Holtz was a very good football coach, and probably no less a man than Leahy. But a very good man, Parseghian, came in between them, raising the standard of just what a Notre Dame football coach should be. Ara Parseghian didn't just fit the image: He helped create it.

As Lloyd Bentsen once said to Dan Quayle, I knew Ara Parseghian, and Lou Holtz was no Ara Parseghian.

Then came Bob Davie, who might be another Gerry Faust, but without the Rosary beads. With his Hollywood good looks, Davie appeared typecast for the part. However, his record was not the stuff that new legends are made of at Notre Dame.

An NCAA scandal left over from Holtz's days, when Davie was an assistant, hangs over the Golden Dome with the threat of severe sanctions that will make pursuit of the legend even more elusive for Davie and the Irish.

Still, remarkable things seem to happen in the newly expanded, 80,000-seat Notre Dame Stadium that almost looks more tradition-laden than the 59,000-seat core it now surrounds. You can still see the freshly sandblasted bricks of the old exterior, surrounded by the fresh bricks of the new edifice that somehow looks like it's been there forever.

A few years ago, as I returned to the campus for the first time in several years, Southern Cal came to South Bend for its 32nd visit at a time when both programs are mere shadows of themselves. National attention on that college football Saturday was focused elsewhere, but in South Bend, the game, as always, was the center of the only universe that mattered.

In a season during which it has struggled, Notre Dame rallied from a 24-3 deficit with a remarkable second-half comeback for a 25-24 victory. There were a couple of lucky bounces, stuff that could have happened to any team, particularly a fumble the Irish recovered in the end zone with 2:40 to play to complete the rally.

But there also was the inexplicable: a 20-degree drop in temperature and the pouring rain throughout the second half that seemed to cool off and wash out the California boys, and a change in the wind that left the Trojans with what must have felt like the very breath of God in their face instead of at their backs, where it belonged, in the fourth quarter.

"It's funny how that game starts out sunny and it's pretty warm and SC's making plays, and by the end of the game, it's rainy and cold and the wind's coming with us in the fourth quarter," admitted Davie.

"It was remarkable," USC coach Paul Hackett said. "Someone elbowed me and said, 'Now they've changed the wind, too.' This is what happens when you play at Notre Dame Stadium."

I remember Parseghian's first year. During a home game, it started to snow. When the student section started chanting, "Ara stop the snow! Ara stop the snow!" he turned to his assistant coach, Tom Pagna, and asked, "Can I?"

The next year, at another home game, it started to snow again and the students started chanting once again: "Ara stop the snow! Ara stop the snow!" This time, Parseghian turned to Pagna and asked, "Should I?"

Notre Dame loves itself for those stories. It loves itself for its beautiful stadium, which somehow manages to look both new and old at the same time, like a good story that becomes legend.

I graduated soon thereafter and ended up listening to short wave "simulcasts" in 'Nam for the '67 season. I was relegated to watching the '68 & '69 seasons on German TV, and got to listen to the '70 season in 'Nam. By the time I got back to see a game, Ara was on his way out.

The student body never chanted for Bob Davie to change the weather or the wind against USC. Maybe the faithful just assumed he could and would.

These days, I have to wonder if the creation of legends at Notre Dame is simply on automatic pilot, resulting in pale recreations of the past rather than the stuff new legends are made of.

But the only way Notre Dame will ever wake up the echoes and shake down the thunder again will be to build anew on its image, not merely copy it over and over again.

And until that happens, the true believers will just continue to cheer, cheer for old Notre Dame.

Middle Ages for me, I suppose.

Does anyone else notice a Western bias here? From what I remember in school, the only Eastern, African, or even Islamic history we learned was when it directly affected the West.

Shame. I could mention Averroes, Tokugawa Iesu, Lu Bu, Dhong Zhuo or a hundred others and 99% of high schoolers nowadays would just stare at me blankly. Shame.

1. Carthage is in AFRICA! Although that did affect the west.
2. I learned about the Indus Valley civilzation. And that died out before there even WAS western civilization.
3. Basicially all history affects the West.

Does anyone else notice a Western bias here? From what I remember in school, the only Eastern, African, or even Islamic history we learned was when it directly affected the West.

Shame. I could mention Averroes, Tokugawa Iesu, Lu Bu, Dhong Zhuo or a hundred others and 99% of high schoolers nowadays would just stare at me blankly. Shame.

Yes I have heard of Averroes, Lu Bu, Tokugawa, and Dong Zhuo, but Carthage still is more interesting than all of that.

Also, Carthage was part of western civilization, because their culture was Phoenician.

I would of loved to be alive in the 60's.. best music ever made, people actually cared about things, it was the social revolution. So many great things came out of the 60's.. things that still effect us today!

I would of loved to be alive in the 60's.. best music ever made, people actually cared about things, it was the social revolution. So many great things came out of the 60's.. things that still effect us today!

Things from the sixties:

Mass prostitution.
Teen sex x 10000000000
The rise of Drug Cartels
The rise of the Hippies
HORRIBLE music.
A screwed up government system.
The only war that America lost.

Oh yeah, such GOOD things(*cough* yeah right, you pinko hippie commie*cough*)

I find this era simpler than present day and less competition. with the exeption of the depression, but it was a cool and stylish era, in my opinion.

Oh yeah, such GOOD things(*cough* yeah right, you pinko hippie commie*cough*)

You're so mature, it shines right on through there mister.. :rollseyes:

You're so mature, it shines right on through there mister.. :rollseyes:

Well excuuuuuuuse me for believing that Organized government is good, that music should be GOOD, NO drugs(as in Cocaine, Marijuana), that prostitution is bad, and that communism(as in communism in the REAL world. Not Communism in THEORY) is friggen evil.

Well excuuuuuuuse me for believing that Organized government is good, that music should be GOOD, NO drugs(as in Cocaine, Marijuana), that prostitution is bad, and that communism(as in communism in the REAL world. Not Communism in THEORY) is friggen evil.

First of all.. lets address music..

Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin
Jimi Hendrix
Janis Joplin
The Beatles
The Eagles
Neil Young
Rod Stewart
David Bowie
Eric Clapton

Need I go on? Or is your idea of good music "Brooks & Dunn" ? LOL! Perhaps hip hop? Or even better Rap crap?

The civil rights movement was in the 60's.. lets not forget about that. Or perhaps you are one of those people who thinks god should just tell us what to do? Yeah, umm okay!

Yes, I'm a pinko commie because I have taste.. sorry to hear you don't.

First of all.. lets address music..

Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin
Jimi Hendrix
Janis Joplin
The Beatles
The Eagles
Neil Young
Rod Stewart
David Bowie
Eric Clapton

Need I go on? Or is your idea of good music "Brooks & Dunn" ? LOL! Perhaps hip hop? Or even better Rap crap?

The civil rights movement was in the 60's.. lets not forget about that. Or perhaps you are one of those people who thinks god should just tell us what to do? Yeah, umm okay!

Yes, I'm a pinko commie because I have taste.. sorry to hear you don't.


First of all, most of the music in the 60's was that hippie crap. Sure, a few groups stood out, but most just, well, sucked.

Second, NO, I am NOT a god-worshiping redneck. I am an agnostic Republican supporter born in Worcester, MA and i've lived all over the world(to Pakistan, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Panama, and alot of other placs). I believe in the Civil Rights movement.

Also, you didn't adress the Vietnam War. Or the Drugs. Or the prostitution. Or the hippies.

You only focused on Music and the Civil Rights(of which only the Civil Rights really matter).

For a complete review of the military of the french please see:
http://miljokes.com/a/sep03/090903.htm


Let me remind you that the Gauls WERE NOT french.

ROME!
the Napolionic wars were cool too though.

ROME!
the Napolionic wars were cool too though.

.. Not another one...


CARTHAGE!

First of all, most of the music in the 60's was that hippie crap. Sure, a few groups stood out, but most just, well, sucked.

Second, NO, I am NOT a god-worshiping redneck. I am an agnostic Republican supporter born in Worcester, MA and i've lived all over the world(to Pakistan, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Panama, and alot of other placs). I believe in the Civil Rights movement.

Also, you didn't adress the Vietnam War. Or the Drugs. Or the prostitution. Or the hippies.

You only focused on Music and the Civil Rights(of which only the Civil Rights really matter).


Well you only addressed the negative parts. No matter the era there will be good and bad. Vietnam being one of those bad things. You never did say what music you like and then leaped to the conclusion I was a pinko so excuse me if I did some leaping of my own...lol :)

Well you only addressed the negative parts. No matter the era there will be good and bad. Vietnam being one of those bad things. You never did say what music you like and then leaped to the conclusion I was a pinko so excuse me if I did some leaping of my own...lol :)

Well, the sixties are one of those decades where most everything was bad. There were a few exceptions such as the first superbowl(w00t!), the civil rights movement, and Space-related stuff(goooooo NASA!), but besides that it was really the worst decade in history(at least for the First World)

To Hyrokkia, no I have not read Middlemarch. As for that list of 60's artists, I would only buy albums by 2 of those. I personally don't like 60's music, rap, or country. Just because one likes it does not make it best. This is just a matter of opinion, whether it is historical eras, or music. The title of the post is FAVORITE eras, not BEST eras. You don't have to like my taste in music/history, just as I don't have to like yours. It's just opinion people-- can't we all just get along?

such as the first superbowl(w00t!), the civil rights movement, and Space-related stuff(goooooo NASA!)

Okay, those are some other great things..

But what about the whole social revolution? Women's rights.. the end of segregation? Surely these are some rather landmark things that happened!

P.S. What music do YOU like?

Okay, those are some other great things..

But what about the whole social revolution? Women's rights.. the end of segregation? Surely these are some rather landmark things that happened!

P.S. What music do YOU like?

1. Womens rights were in the THIRTIES.

2. I already said the Civil Rights movement(thats segregation and technically women)

3. Long live Techno, Classical, instrumental, and anythng made by Nobuo Uematsu(the guy who made Final Fantasy music before Nov. '04)!

1. Womens rights were in the THIRTIES.

2. I already said the Civil Rights movement(thats segregation and technically women)

3. Long live Techno, Classical, instrumental, and anythng made by Nobuo Uematsu(the guy who made Final Fantasy music before Nov. '04)!

Actually women won the right to vote in the 20's.. but there is more to rights than simply voting..

I don't like the music you like with the exception of Classical...

Thank you for answering my question. :)