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I'm so cool-On the Feminist Anti Feminist Hype

Alexias
14-01-2005, 23:32
Once upon a time, there was this ultra cool guy called Alex.

One day, Alex was very board, so he started visiting a "Website" on the "World Wide Web" called "NationStates" created by a man called Max Barry.

Anyhow, his coolness rubbed off on the site, and it became extremly popular.

On one of his visits to the website, Alex created a thread called

"Massive Feminist Movement in the Alexian Empire"


People joined, people looked, people made fun.

And Alex was relativly pleased with it.

But soon, it spun out of control, as it reaked with so much coolness that everyone had to see it, and then copy it, incoperate parts of it into there things, and start debates about the general topic.

And thus, and Internet trend was born!



That's right. I started the trend. I start trends in my community and city(I.e. the resurgence of MC Hammer's popularity in the sourounding area) and now, even on the internet! The godamn internet!

Man I kick ass!




Don't belive me?

Look, see for yourself.


http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7944613#post7944613
New Foxxinnia
14-01-2005, 23:34
Uh, who are you?
Sumixia
14-01-2005, 23:38
Sorry, but seeing as feminism is a hotly debated topic in more than just these forums, I doubt that you started it all. The feminist topic here probably would have happened here if you had never started that RP.
Alexias
14-01-2005, 23:42
It is indeed a hotly debated topic.

But not here.

Just as is Bhudisism, but in all the times I've been to this site, no one has ever mentioned it.



And so, I have set the trend on this site. Look at the date.


If you can find a feminist/whatnot internet debate wich took place before my thing, please show me so that I can stop making a fool of myself.
Alexias
14-01-2005, 23:44
Uh, who are you?




Do you read English?

If not, you shouldn't be here.






I just explained who I was in the above post, my friend. If you would just read like they taught you in the schoolhouse, you would not have wasted your time by asking such a foolish question.
Alexias
14-01-2005, 23:45
Uh, who are you?

Now, I think the real question is, Who are YOU?! Huh? Huh?
New Foxxinnia
14-01-2005, 23:48
Now, I think the real question is, Who are YOU?! Huh? Huh?The question isn't if you know who I am, but if you know who you are. I know who I am. Do you know who you are?
Gnostikos
14-01-2005, 23:48
Just as is Bhudisism, but in all the times I've been to this site, no one has ever mentioned it.
The orthographical romanisation is "Buddhism".
Sdaeriji
14-01-2005, 23:50
Now, I think the real question is, Who are YOU?! Huh? Huh?

He is Foxxinnia, someone of relevance here. We still await an answer to his original question.
Alexias
14-01-2005, 23:58
The question isn't if you know who I am, but if you know who you are. I know who I am. Do you know who you are?



The answer to the original question was above.

"Once upon a time, there was this ultra cool guy named Alex"


If you read, you would not have asked such silly questions.


But, it is my belief, from what I have seen combined with my devine revelations, that you do not actually know who you are, and simply are under the illusion that you do.
Alexias
14-01-2005, 23:59
The orthographical romanisation is "Buddhism".



Thank you.

I did rather butcher the word, didn't I?
Alexias
15-01-2005, 00:00
He is Foxxinnia, someone of relevance here. We still await an answer to his original question.



What does that mean? Where is here? Are you implying that this internet site is a place?


And as for his relevance, I have never head of him.


Him being you, Foxxinnia.
Alexias
15-01-2005, 00:19
I stand by my original statement.
New Foxxinnia
15-01-2005, 00:31
If you hang out in II all the time and then you suddenly come into General getting all upity I think we have the right to ask you who the fuck you are. 'Ight?
Sdaeriji
15-01-2005, 00:34
What does that mean? Where is here? Are you implying that this internet site is a place?


And as for his relevance, I have never head of him.


Him being you, Foxxinnia.

And neither have us have heard of you in General. Ask around General and see who more people have heard of, me and Foxx, or your anonymous ass.
Hughski
15-01-2005, 01:46
He is a Pope.
Alexias
15-01-2005, 03:24
Oh, I'm sorry, am I on yo turf, my man?

Yo, man, don't want no trouble up in here, don' be like dat, c'mon!



You sound like the guys were I live, always all like

"Yo frontin' wit me, cracka?! I kaill yo ass, I kill dis guy, I swear, walahi!"

Those guy is so funny, boy do I love him.....


Anyhow, I don't mean to be offensive, but, to be frank, I do not really care all that much about the reputation you have built online, I do not really care weather you have heard of me or not, and I have just as much right to be here as you. I bought Mr.Barry's book, and therefore, I must say, it gives me more right to be here than most of the people on this site.

So don't be calling me "Some anonomous fuck". Your as much of an anonomaus fuck as I am.


Now, I consider myself a pretty friendly guy, even with people on the internet.

But you guys all coming here, being extremly disrespectfull and rude to me, well, you know what, if your going to be like that, I don't want to talk to you, I don't have time for bullshit like that, espicially not over the internet, because quite frankly, I have better things to do.

If your going to be like that, don't post here in my thread any more. Thank you.
Alexias
15-01-2005, 03:25
He is a Pope.

how did you know?

You must be Equadorian.
Sdaeriji
15-01-2005, 03:27
Oh, I'm sorry, am I on yo turf, my man?

Yo, man, don't want no trouble up in here, don' be like dat, c'mon!



You sound like the guys were I live, always all like

"Yo frontin' wit me, cracka?! I kaill yo ass, I kill dis guy, I swear, walahi!"

That guy is so funny, boy do I love him.....


Anyhow, I don't mean to be offensive, but, to be frank, I do not really care all that much about the reputation you have built online, I do not really care weather you have heard of me or not, and I have just as much right to be here as you. I bought Mr.Barry's book, and therefore, I must say, it gives me more right to be here than most of the people on this site.

So don't be calling me "Some anonomous fuck". Your as much of an anonomaus fuck as I am.


Now, I consider myself a pretty friendly guy, even with people on the internet.

But you guys all coming here, being extremly disrespectfull and rude to me, well, you know what, if your going to be like that, I don't want to talk to you, I don't have time for bullshit like that, espicially not over the internet, because quite frankly, I have better things to do.

If your going to be like that, don't post here in my thread any more. Thank you.

Aww, you don't have to get all indignant just because no one here cares who you are.
Kryozerkia
15-01-2005, 03:31
I know who he is - a random no name little twit that just popped up ande decided thate was supposedly cool for some unknown reason.
Alexias
15-01-2005, 03:55
You guys are really seriously think that your internet reputation is important?

Listen, I asked you not to post here anymore.

If your going to be rude to me, go away.

Please, your being very unfair.
Mental Hospital
15-01-2005, 04:03
Alexias, ya know man, you should be careful about what your saying. Especially as your the one who started a thread about how you supposadly started all these trends and your soooo cool and related bs.
r_f
Alexias
15-01-2005, 04:24
I am so cool.


But I am not rude and impolite.

In addition, I did start that trend on this site.

Feel more than welcome to prove me wrong in both accounts.
Bogstonia
15-01-2005, 05:40
Yo, what makes you so cool?

I want to be cool too.
Alexias
15-01-2005, 05:42
If I could but tell you.

Alas, it is not a trait wich can be taught....sadly, it is implemented from birth.

It can be aquired, but sadly, not taught. I apologize, I would if I could, but it would be like trying to teach hair to grow.

Impossible.
Neo-Anarchists
15-01-2005, 05:42
You guys are really seriously think that your internet reputation is important?
I doubt it's best to deride others with that when you started a thread about why you are cool.
Bogstonia
15-01-2005, 05:48
If I could but tell you.

Alas, it is not a trait wich can be taught....sadly, it is implemented from birth.

It can be aquired, but sadly, not taught. I apologize, I would if I could, but it would be like trying to teach hair to grow.

Impossible.

Well how do I aquire it nimrod?
Alexias
15-01-2005, 05:50
I doubt it's best to deride others with that when you started a thread about why you are cool.


But if it is so terrible and untrue, why do they flock to me?

(This isn't about that. It was about the trend I started. I wanted healthy debate, instead I got idiotic and insutlting one-liners. Not my fault.)
Alexias
15-01-2005, 05:53
Well how do I aquire it nimrod?

Well, my friend, from what I have learned from you, from what I see, you yourself cannot aquire. It can be aquired by others, by a select few, but not you.

I am sorry, but do not dispair......Maybe you can get a job as a......cracker, and do some sort of....uncool thing.....That is something you will have to find out for yourself.
Alexias
15-01-2005, 05:59
Anyhow, I'm off to bed.

Good night,children of the world!!!
Bogstonia
15-01-2005, 06:01
Well, my friend, from what I have learned from you, from what I see, you yourself cannot aquire. It can be aquired by others, by a select few, but not you.

I am sorry, but do not dispair......Maybe you can get a job as a......cracker, and do some sort of....uncool thing.....That is something you will have to find out for yourself.

Being that I cannot aquire it, I will not despair and I will do some 'uncool thing' and get a job as a cracker. Thank you, nimrod.
Stripe-lovers
15-01-2005, 06:44
You guys are really seriously think that your internet reputation is important?

Listen, I asked you not to post here anymore.

If your going to be rude to me, go away.

Please, your being very unfair.

Aww, he's sweet mummy. Can I keep it? I promise I'll feed this one.


No, I won't play "traffic lights" with it this tim, I promise. Pleeeeeease.


Ah, screw it, I didn't really want it anyway.
Mental Hospital
15-01-2005, 06:55
Here, want a bit of debate than,, as I quickly noticed on the thread you started which apperently makes you real cool, the first post is dated 23-12-2004, or in laymans terms, December 23rd 2004. Now correct me if I'm wrong but did the femminist movement not start long before that, and have multiple peaks of popularity since? At least in the real world thats the case. And even in this forumn looking back at prior threads with related topics we find such examples as
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378220 started 02-12-2004 (21 days before your thread)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=389373 started 13-01-05

and thats about it,, that a quick look shows in the top 6 pages with recent posts.. hmm.. not much of a trend there at all is there. And one was far before your post... wow... and than the internet thing,, just no dude. Even if you some how did start it (and forget about the whole, developement by military for communication end of things) you'd be a hell of alot older than your style of "debate" and obvious signs of bias would suggest you are.

Now that I've bitten into your little hook,, let's see what you can come back with (yes I am very bored tonight).
r_f

edit - Also forgot to mention your slang/method of construction sentances/insults as proof of you being relatively young.
Bedou
15-01-2005, 07:40
"Yo frontin' wit me, cracka?! I kaill yo ass, I kill dis guy, I swear, walahi!"


Where are you from? Really, honest question--not everyone knows the word "walah/wahlah/walla/whalla".
Alexias
15-01-2005, 12:46
Being that I cannot aquire it, I will not despair and I will do some 'uncool thing' and get a job as a cracker. Thank you, nimrod.


Now, all of you, I have not been mean or impolite to you whatsoever.

If you are going to be like, that, I will call the moderators.

Do NOT post in my thread if all your going to do is insult me.

Here, I'll repeat it for you guys.

Do NOT post in my thread if all your going to do is insult me.

There, it's written twice, so, please, stop being impolite and rude or I will call the moderators.

So far, Bedou and Mental Hospital are the only people who have added anything to this.

Strip-Lover's? You think it funny that I talk like that?

Well, maybe it's because I am nice to people and not an asshole.

Now, from experience, I know that this is not always the way to go, but in this case, it pays off, as I do not look like some stuck up fool, such as yourself.

I don't have time to waste with idiots.

So, if you are going to insult me, and your not going to add anything, I ask you not to post here.

Thank you.
Alexias
15-01-2005, 12:55
Here, want a bit of debate than,, as I quickly noticed on the thread you started which apperently makes you real cool, the first post is dated 23-12-2004, or in laymans terms, December 23rd 2004. Now correct me if I'm wrong but did the femminist movement not start long before that, and have multiple peaks of popularity since? At least in the real world thats the case. And even in this forumn looking back at prior threads with related topics we find such examples as
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378220 started 02-12-2004 (21 days before your thread)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=389373 started 13-01-05

and thats about it,, that a quick look shows in the top 6 pages with recent posts.. hmm.. not much of a trend there at all is there. And one was far before your post... wow... and than the internet thing,, just no dude. Even if you some how did start it (and forget about the whole, developement by military for communication end of things) you'd be a hell of alot older than your style of "debate" and obvious signs of bias would suggest you are.

Now that I've bitten into your little hook,, let's see what you can come back with (yes I am very bored tonight).
r_f

edit - Also forgot to mention your slang/method of construction sentances/insults as proof of you being relatively young.


Military what? You didn't word that phrase very well, I don't know what you mean.

But as for the rest, yes, it was debated, but not widely so, only in small pockets.

It was I that made the trend.

No, I do not mean that I actually started the feminist movement, that would be impossible, it started decades before I was born.

Obvious bias? Whatever do you mean? Just because I am aware of the fact that I am the coolest person in the world does not make me biased.

And why must you bring up what you believe is my age? That has nothing to do with anything. Could it be that you simply lack good arguments?
Alexias
15-01-2005, 12:58
Where are you from? Really, honest question--not everyone knows the word "walah/wahlah/walla/whalla".

I live in a prodominantly arab muslim and african muslim community, if that is what you are asking.

In Canada.
Mental Hospital
15-01-2005, 22:25
Military what? You didn't word that phrase very well, I don't know what you mean.

But as for the rest, yes, it was debated, but not widely so, only in small pockets.

It was I that made the trend.

No, I do not mean that I actually started the feminist movement, that would be impossible, it started decades before I was born.

Obvious bias? Whatever do you mean? Just because I am aware of the fact that I am the coolest person in the world does not make me biased.

And why must you bring up what you believe is my age? That has nothing to do with anything. Could it be that you simply lack good arguments?

Look up the history of the interneit.. as I recall, it was initially developed by the military to enhance interbranch communication and datatransfer. The age factors into the whole time frame issue. The internet started to gain popularity during the 90's,, where I personally tend to think you woulda been a little young to understand the technicallities behind formallizing and popularizing the internet we know now adays.

And as you said,, its highly unlikely at best (even by your own admission) that you started the movement,, but as I pointed out by the recently posted to threads, there is no increase or decrease in the number of threads about femminizim being discussed, ergo no trend started by you.

The 'obvious bias' I'm talking about is how you take facts that support what your point of view, while ignoring facts that do not fit that pattern. Also it has caused you to make irrational jumps in coming up with a logical conclusion about your supposed 'coolness'.

Also, I would strongly caution you against, crying wolf to the mods about how everyone is sooo horribly mistreating you,, without taking a step back and look at how your responding.
r_f

edit - taken from your post prior to the responce to mine,, kinda ironic i would think

'I don't have time to waste with idiots.

So, if you are going to insult me, and your not going to add anything, I ask you not to post here. '

On one hand your saying everyone is a waste of time and an idiot (with exceptions of course), which last time I checked was an insult, than cry out for them insulting you and not adding anything to the thread. Funny shit man
Der Lieben
15-01-2005, 22:32
Is this for real? Jeez, I thought I knew what immaturity was.
Imardeavia
15-01-2005, 22:48
Is this for real? Jeez, I thought I knew what immaturity was.

Quite, You know, people disagreeing with you Alex is not being rude and impolite. Mercilessly mocking your self-obsessiveness and immaturity is, so feel free to accuse me, but by then I'll be long gone away from 'your thread'.

Mikorlias of Imardeavia
Zentia
16-01-2005, 01:53
Look up the history of the interneit.. as I recall, it was initially developed by the military to enhance interbranch communication and datatransfer. The age factors into the whole time frame issue. The internet started to gain popularity during the 90's,, where I personally tend to think you woulda been a little young to understand the technicallities behind formallizing and popularizing the internet we know now adays.



I always thought it was the french, but the DOD invented E-mail.
Boonytopia
16-01-2005, 03:06
Now, from experience, I know that this is not always the way to go, but in this case, it pays off, as I do not look like some stuck up fool, such as yourself.

I don't have time to waste with idiots.

I think that statement makes you look like a stuck up fool.
Neo-Anarchists
16-01-2005, 03:15
Once upon a time, there was this ultra cool guy called Alex.

One day, Alex was very board, so he started visiting a "Website" on the "World Wide Web" called "NationStates" created by a man called Max Barry.

Anyhow, his coolness rubbed off on the site, and it became extremly popular.

On one of his visits to the website, Alex created a thread called

"Massive Feminist Movement in the Alexian Empire"


People joined, people looked, people made fun.

And Alex was relativly pleased with it.

But soon, it spun out of control, as it reaked with so much coolness that everyone had to see it, and then copy it, incoperate parts of it into there things, and start debates about the general topic.

And thus, and Internet trend was born!



That's right. I started the trend. I start trends in my community and city(I.e. the resurgence of MC Hammer's popularity in the sourounding area) and now, even on the internet! The godamn internet!

Man I kick ass!




Don't belive me?

Look, see for yourself.


http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7944613#post7944613
Wait, by that do you mean that you believe you started the trend of feminism debate over the entire internet?

Or did I read too much into tht statement?
Alexias
16-01-2005, 04:05
There is an increase, you are just not looking hard enough.

No, not the whole internet.

Listen, if you read, you will see, that, those people were in fact, very insulting, and did not even talk about the issues at hand.

"I have a better internet reputation then you and your a random fuck"

"How do I do it, nimrod? Your a nimrod, nimrod?"

"Can I keep him? He's like, not cussing like hell, and he's not resorting to mindless insults while writting, he's such a wuss and so cute blah blah blah."

That is what I was refering to.



You are not reading very thouroughly, my friend.
Alexias
16-01-2005, 04:06
Now, from experience, I know that this is not always the way to go, but in this case, it pays off, as I do not look like some stuck up fool, such as yourself.

I don't have time to waste with idiots.

I think that statement makes you look like a stuck up fool.


you think to much.

You have to look at the whole thing.

Stop thinking, you'll hurt yourself.
Alexias
16-01-2005, 04:07
Quite, You know, people disagreeing with you Alex is not being rude and impolite. Mercilessly mocking your self-obsessiveness and immaturity is, so feel free to accuse me, but by then I'll be long gone away from 'your thread'.

Mikorlias of Imardeavia


jibe and run away.

Good show.
Alexias
16-01-2005, 04:08
And I have not contacted the moderators, as the people did not continue there insults.

I'm not going to report people who have already stopped.
Neo-Anarchists
16-01-2005, 04:09
There is an increase, you are just not looking hard enough.

No, not the whole internet.

Listen, if you read, you will see, that, those people were in fact, very insulting, and did not even talk about the issues at hand.

"I have a better internet reputation then you and your a random fuck"

"How do I do it, nimrod? Your a nimrod, nimrod?"

"Can I keep him? He's like, not cussing like hell, and he's not resorting to mindless insults while writting, he's such a wuss and so cute blah blah blah."

That is what I was refering to.



You are not reading very thouroughly, my friend.
I meant the statement highlighted in bold in my quote of your original post. The one that says "And thus, and Internet trend was born!"
Alexias
16-01-2005, 04:21
I know that.

I meant on this site.
Mental Hospital
16-01-2005, 04:24
There is an increase, you are just not looking hard enough.
....
You are not reading very thouroughly, my friend.
<Culled out irrelevant parts of your quote cause I can>
There really isn't an increase, or at least enough of one to qualify as a trend. If it where a trend, like most other trends I would expect to see a multitude of threads in the top 6 pages (of most recently posted to threads..) whereas what I found when I had looked (at that point in time) were a grand total of 2 threads directly applicable to the topic at hand, one created before and one after your 'seed thread'. Hence my judgement that a trend was not started. Also, one should remember that if a trend was started, it may not be due to the person, but instead due to the idea being brought to the more front end of the mind as apposed to the back, and related biasing of people thoughts. It would be an interesting idea to further explore tho. (Person vs. Idea starting trends)
And I do tend to read things multiple times, as well as spend much time thinking about things before responding,, so maybe the case may be that I'm reading tooo deeply into what is said? Also it could be a result of bias on my behalf (eg. looking for points to counteract what you say, while disregarding points that agree with what you say).
r_f (flying high up in the sky... soo if'n I'm not making sense I'll be takin a second look at this when I'm back down on earth so to speak. :D)
Alexias
16-01-2005, 04:29
<Culled out irrelevant parts of your quote cause I can>
There really isn't an increase, or at least enough of one to qualify as a trend. If it where a trend, like most other trends I would expect to see a multitude of threads in the top 6 pages (of most recently posted to threads..) whereas what I found when I had looked (at that point in time) were a grand total of 2 threads directly applicable to the topic at hand, one created before and one after your 'seed thread'. Hence my judgement that a trend was not started. Also, one should remember that if a trend was started, it may not be due to the person, but instead due to the idea being brought to the more front end of the mind as apposed to the back, and related biasing of people thoughts. It would be an interesting idea to further explore tho. (Person vs. Idea starting trends)
And I do tend to read things multiple times, as well as spend much time thinking about things before responding,, so maybe the case may be that I'm reading tooo deeply into what is said? Also it could be a result of bias on my behalf (eg. looking for points to counteract what you say, while disregarding points that agree with what you say).
r_f (flying high up in the sky... soo if'n I'm not making sense I'll be takin a second look at this when I'm back down on earth so to speak. :D)

very good points. Well done. I would agree with you, but you don't seem to have your mind made up, but I have to say, I can't really argue with all that.

Although there is still the possibility that it was started, as we still haven't realy made up our minds. I'm confused.

One other example, though.

In "Roach-Buster"'s thread "Roach-Buster's slave market" (or something to that affect) I noted that he was now selling feminist slaves, whereas in all the other slave market threads made before my post, no feminists were mentioned, not from what I saw anyway. Just a thought.

And you must admit, my thread did get a good deal of exposure.
Neo-Anarchists
16-01-2005, 04:29
I know that.

I meant on this site.
Okay, I understand now.
Alexias
16-01-2005, 04:33
Okay, I understand now.


yes. Sorry, I suppose I did not make it very clear.

My fault.