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My knowledge of the Bible is limited. I do, however, recall that two of every species boarded Noah's Ark.

How big must Noah's Ark have been to fit each and every species on Earth onboard? Given that there are literally thousands of species, it must have been huge. If not all of the species could fit onboard the Ark then some must have come into existence afterwards. Could this have occurred due to the result of evolution or another mechanism?

I say it was at least 5 million tonnes.

"Genesis 6:15 in the Bible tells us the Ark's dimensions were at least 135 meters long (300 cubits), 22.5 meters wide (50 cubits), and 13.5 meters high (30 cubits). That's 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high! It could have been larger because several larger-sized cubits were used. But the 45-centimeter (18-inch) cubit is long enough to show the enormous size of the Ark."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/arksize.html

"Noah's Ark was three stories high (Genesis 6:16). This made its total deck area equivalent to the area of about 36 lawn tennis courts. The average size of animal is about the size of an adult sheep. From this, scientists have calculated that the Ark could have held about 522 railroad stock cars full of sheep-sized animals. This is eight freight trains with 65 carriages on each!

Remember too that not every creature had to go on the Ark. Fish and other sea creatures didn't go on, and they account for a very large percentage of the world's animals. It was only land-dwelling, air-breathing animals that went on the Ark — and even many of them are very small, such as spiders, worms, beetles, etc.

When we realize that not every shade of butterfly, snake, kangaroo, or whatever had to go on board — just major “kinds” — we find that there might have been only about 35,000 animals on board.

So the question is not so much how did they all fit, but what did Noah use all the left-over room for?"

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/animalark.html

Ah, that's an interesting explanation! You know the theory evolution and Creationism can co-exist without being antagonistic...I'm certain of it. It's just depends how fundamental the Christian is and how radical the scientist is.

Noah's "Ark" == Vessel of Sekhinah == the Earth.
The "Flood" == Wave of Geburah.

If you're going to take everything so literaly, you'll never very get far in life.

Noah's "Ark" == Vessel of Sekhinah == the Earth.
The "Flood" == Wave of Geburah.

If you're going to take everything so literaly, you'll never very get far in life.

What are the alternatives?

the only problems I can see with the whole concept ,, is the structural strength of wood up to the task?
I mean the damn things nearly as big as a modern cruiser!
also.. what did he feed the animals on?
and,,, only a tiny point.
where did the water go afterward?

An alien space-ship?

Noah's "Ark" == Vessel of Sekhinah == the Earth.
The "Flood" == Wave of Geburah.

If you're going to take everything so literaly, you'll never very get far in life.


Umm, last I checked, the Bible provided specific measurements for the arc, and said measurements did not coincide with the size of the earth.

Also, the fact that they have found seashells on top of Mt. Everest, as well, as the fact that nearly every culture has a flood myth, leads us to believe that there was, indeed, a catastrophic flood of global proportions.

Another question:

How did Noah have access to all the many animals on the Earth. For example, the three-fingered tree sloth exists only in the Amazon jungle, the red kangeroo lives only in Australia. How did he reach these remote species?

Also, while the average animal may indeed be the size of a sheep, many species are much larger. Noah would have had to find room for many species of elephant (african and indian) as well as rhino, giraffe, hippo and polar bear etc etc.

Also, if the world was totally submerged in water, why are there no traces of marine fossil in desert areas that are traceable back to a common era?

go to Answers in Geniesis .com or something like that its opened up my eyes with their plausable deniability :D

Umm, last I checked, the Bible provided specific measurements for the arc, and said measurements did not coincide with the size of the earth.

Also, the fact that they have found seashells on top of Mt. Everest, as well, as the fact that nearly every culture has a flood myth, leads us to believe that there was, indeed, a catastrophic flood of global proportions.

Scientific evidence suggests that the sea was, indeed, considerably higher several thousand years ago. Whether or not it flooded the world entirely is open for argument..

Another question:

How did Noah have access to all the many animals on the Earth. For example, the three-fingered tree sloth exists only in the Amazon jungle, the red kangeroo lives only in Australia. How did he reach these remote species?

Also, while the average animal may indeed be the size of a sheep, many species are much larger. Noah would have had to find room for many species of elephant (african and indian) as well as rhino, giraffe, hippo and polar bear etc etc.

Also, if the world was totally submerged in water, why are there no traces of marine fossil in desert areas that are traceable back to a common era?

It was an alien spaceship, I tell you!

The aliens took DNA samples of everything. It's so obvious :rolleyes:


:D

Another question:

How did Noah have access to all the many animals on the Earth. For example, the three-fingered tree sloth exists only in the Amazon jungle, the red kangeroo lives only in Australia. How did he reach these remote species?

Also, while the average animal may indeed be the size of a sheep, many species are much larger. Noah would have had to find room for many species of elephant (african and indian) as well as rhino, giraffe, hippo and polar bear etc etc.

Also, if the world was totally submerged in water, why are there no traces of marine fossil in desert areas that are traceable back to a common era?

1) Maybe the land above water, at that time, was much less sparse and spread out as it is now.

2) Maybe the deserts weren't submerged entirely?! :D

It was an alien spaceship, I tell you!

The aliens took DNA samples of everything. It's so obvious :rolleyes:


:D

If aliens can do it...God can do it too!

1) Maybe the land above water, at that time, was much less sparse and spread out as it is now.

The world was basically exactly the same as it is today. It takes millions of years for continental drift to be noticeable, and we simply havent been around that long.

1) Maybe the land above water, at that time, was much less sparse and spread out as it is now.

2) Maybe the deserts weren't submerged entirely?! :D

I'm liking the whole UFO thing compared to that.

I'm wondering how all the non-aquatic plants and fungi survived as well...

I'm wondering how all the non-aquatic plants and fungi survived as well...

They survived because Noah had plants on the ship too. Duh!

The world was basically exactly the same as it is today. It takes millions of years for continental drift to be noticeable, and we simply havent been around that long.

Damn right...we've only been around for like 6000 years?!

I'm liking the whole UFO thing compared to that.

It's a plausible aternative :-D

It was an alien spaceship, I tell you!

The aliens took DNA samples of everything. It's so obvious :rolleyes:


:D
WOOHOO! Anal probes! But how did they probe the owls? They don't have rectums.

can't remember exactly where, but it says somewhere in the bible that "the lands shifted" like a major event...not an earthquake or nething like that....idk though.....could be a reason for pangea...maybe god miraculously shifted them....idk....

I'm wondering why submerged ruins from a range of civilisations have not been found all over the world, dating back to a single period...

Some of these animals also have very specific dietary requirements. the koala only eats eucalyptus leaves. I guess they had a whole bunch of these in reserve. I think the space required for food would have been more significant than the space required for the animals themselves. Also, most of it would have rotted before the journey was over.

Also, what about amphibious animals, like turles, that spend their time both in and out of water? I wonder how these were dealt with?

Also, the number of birds on the ark would have been a sight to behold.

Yeh, if you accept God as an explaination the conversation becomes pointless.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. As I see it, if the ark did exist then it would have to be HUGE. Alternatively, only a minor range of species could be present on the Ark but would evolve afterwards...

WOOHOO! Anal probes! But how did they probe the owls? They don't have rectums.

They put them in blenders and put the goo in test tubes. *nods*

can't remember exactly where, but it says somewhere in the bible that "the lands shifted" like a major event...not an earthquake or nething like that....idk though.....could be a reason for pangea...maybe god miraculously shifted them....idk....

Pangaea was hundreds of millions of years ago, before the time of mammals, let alone primates or humans.

WOOHOO! Anal probes! But how did they probe the owls? They don't have rectums.

Oral probing?!

Pangaea was hundreds of millions of years ago, before the time of mammals, let alone primates or humans.

Are you 100% certain it was before mammals? They found mammals with dinasaurs... Then again, I do believe all of this was after Pangaea separated...

They survived because Noah had plants on the ship too. Duh!
But Genesis never says so...

I'm just playing devil's advocate. As I see it, if the ark did exist then it would have to be HUGE. Alternatively, only a minor range of species could be present on the Ark but would evolve afterwards...

Again, too short a time-span for evolution.

A theory for what the flood was is that the modern day Black Sea used to be completely dry, and a massive cliff-face (about where modern day Istanbul on the map is) ruptured, and the Black Sea was completely flooded. It wasn't a global catastrophe, but to the people of the time, it would have seemed like one.

Are you 100% certain it was before mammals? They found mammals with dinasaurs... Then again, I do believe all of this was after Pangaea separated...
Well, yeah. Granted, palaeontology is fallible, but if I recall correctly, mammals had not yet emerged by the time Pangaea split.

Bigger than a breadbasket...

But Genesis never says so...

Whoever wrote Genesis is a lying scumbag and I resent him with a deep and fiery hatred.

Are you 100% certain it was before mammals? They found mammals with dinasaurs... Then again, I do believe all of this was after Pangaea separated...

Yes.

Panagea was in the time of the early Triassic period (up until 208 million years ago.) Primitive, almost reptilian mammals appeared first in the late Jurassic, which ended 144 million years ago.

Intelligent primates have only been around for about a million years.

Again, too short a time-span for evolution.

A theory for what the flood was is that the modern day Black Sea used to be completely dry, and a massive cliff-face (about where modern day Istanbul on the map is) ruptured, and the Black Sea was completely flooded. It wasn't a global catastrophe, but to the people of the time, it would have seemed like one.

That is a plausible explanation. But how would Noah have predicted this?!

That is a plausible explanation. But how would Noah have predicted this?!

It would have taken a long time for that water to travel all of that distance, especially if the cliff face began to slowly crumble. Maybe he got word from settlements close to it, and the animals he saved were simply his livestock.

Intelligent primates have only been around for about a million years.

I believe that even Apes emerged between 5 and 23 million years ago...

Although yeah, I guess that the most primitive Homo sapiens could have emerged no earlier than 1.8 million years ago.

Also, if the world was totally submerged in water, why are there no traces of marine fossil in desert areas that are traceable back to a common era?

You will find salt traces in just about any soil or sand you find except in high mountains, where it is presumable that saltwater was unable to reach.

It would have taken a long time for that water to travel all of that distance, especially if the cliff face began to slowly crumble. Maybe he got word from settlements close to it, and the animals he saved were simply his livestock.

Yeah add some embellishment...a little spice...maybe he saved his pet and a local sheep...

(in a small raft made out of the roof of his house).

You will find salt traces in just about any soil or sand you find except in high mountains, where it is presumable that saltwater was unable to reach.

There is evidence that sea level was once considerably higher...

Although yeah, I guess that the most primitive Homo Sapiens could have emerged no earlier than 1.8 million years ago.

Yeah, that's what i meant.

You will find salt traces in just about any soil or sand you find except in high mountains, where it is presumable that saltwater was unable to reach.

The salt is natural within most types of rock. Do you think that the ocean came first and has always been salty? You could find it in high mountains, certainly.

This discussion isn't fun without a few fundos to taunt

This discussion isn't fun without a few fundos to taunt
:D

Bah...they'll come eventually. I can provide rebuttal for now:

God produced everything in Seven Days. It's obvious, everything I say is right, and I have God on my side. If you don't believe me you'll burn in hell. If I don't try to persuade you then I deserve to burn in hell for not trying to prevent you from burning in hell: oh the guilt! The guilt!

Assuming that Noah's Ark actually existed, it would be very much smaller than you think it is. From Einstein's Refrigerator;


Did Noah's Ark really exist?

Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes. No.

You get the idea - this debate will go on forever. I'm not even going to attempt to answer this one.

Instead, let's just look at the physical aspects of the ark. As you will soon see, conditions were not ideal. We know that the ark was bigger than a rowboat, but smaller than the Titanic. In fact, we know its exact size - it was 450 x 45 x 75 feet, with an approximate volume of 1,518,750 cubic feet. How did they get this number? Very simple - it's stated in the bible. (Actually, it's stated in cubits, not feet).

So how many animals do we have to fit in this place? Let's leave out the fish, as they can't drown. Bugs and plants - let 'em drown. So, we're left with the birds, reptiles, and mammals.

Conservatively, there were 3500 species of mammals, 6000 species of reptiles, and 12,000 species of birds. Add this all up and you get 21,500 different species. Of course, there were two of each, or 43,000 individuals on the boat.

Now let's do some quick math: 1,518,750 divided by 43,000 is about 35 cubic feet per animal. Wow! That sounds like ample space.

Wrong! It is about the size of a human coffin! (6 x 2 x 3 =36 cubic feet) A bit cramped, but a possibility.

Uh, Oh! We forgot about food and water! This would take up quite a bit of space, as they were supposedly on the ark for at least 275 days. Water storage is a big problem. After all, you can't drink the salty seawater.

If we figure an average of 1 quart per day for each animal, Noah would have to store away 1,263,125 gallons of the liquid. Of course, it was raining quite heavily, so the supply could have been considerably less.

Let's not forget the space needed for cages, partitions, and passageways. We need even more space for any offspring produced along the way.

If we take into account all of these factors - we can make one conclusion: the ark must have been extremely cramped, unsanitary, and oppressive. Even worse, there were only eight humans and some 43,000 animals screaming for their attention.

This means that each human was responsible for feeding, watering, and cleaning 5375 animals each day. If they slept four hours a day, they would need to care for 270 animals each hour. Wow! Simpler said than done.

Some may argue that these numbers suggest that the ark was an impossibility. On the other hand, some would say that these calculations are meaningless due to the power of the almighty. I'll let you decide for yourself.

One thing that we can be sure of though - a trip on the ark was not like a honeymoon on The Love Boat.

Useless? Useful? I’ll leave that for you to decide.


Einstein's Refrigerator (http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/noahs_ark/index.html)

Guess that clears this one up. :rolleyes:

Excellent analysis

if you read the biblical account, it also states that of some animals groups of 7 males and seven females were taken. i think one of these animal groups were sheep.

it was Project N.O.A.H. demn it

Neurological Observation Alien Hosts.

The famous Dr. "noah" had an advanced form of being able to see into the furture. He saw a massive astroid coming towards the earth, and so he got together other scientists "his sons' and told them what he saw. They could find no way to protect themselves from this astroid. So they started putting together teams to gather DNA, one male one female, for cloneing perposes. This took some time, and while they gathered, "noah" started working on his ark. It was a massive space ship, and as he neared getting it done, it started raining, as small metorites started hitting the earth. People started getting scared, for they didn't know what was happening. The governement saw what "noah" was doing and they tried to attack him, but again "noah" saw this coming and quickly sealed the doors as they got there. They took off, and headed into deep space, but their scanners were hit by a metorite. They pushed on, and after some time they sent out a probe, but it never returned, so they waited longer, and this time they sent out another probe, more advanced then the first one, and it came back with evidence of a livable planet, and had pictures of an olive tree to boot.

They landed and started all over, they booted up the cloning labs, and soon "unloaded" the entire populace onto this new world. Though things were different in this world. Great reptiles had once ruled the earth, but due to some shifts in its crust the climates had changed and killed them off. Noah and his "sons" started blending DNAs and started Cloneing as well. Soon the world was on its way to being reformed.

it was Project N.O.A.H. demn it

Neurological Observation Alien Hosts.

The famous Dr. "noah" had an advanced form of being able to see into the furture. He saw a massive astroid coming towards the earth, and so he got together other scientists "his sons' and told them what he saw. They could find no way to protect themselves from this astroid. So they started putting together teams to gather DNA, one male one female, for cloneing perposes. This took some time, and while they gathered, "noah" started working on his ark. It was a massive space ship, and as he neared getting it done, it started raining, as small metorites started hitting the earth. People started getting scared, for they didn't know what was happening. The governement saw what "noah" was doing and they tried to attack him, but again "noah" saw this coming and quickly sealed the doors as they got there. They took off, and headed into deep space, but their scanners were hit by a metorite. They pushed on, and after some time they sent out a probe, but it never returned, so they waited longer, and this time they sent out another probe, more advanced then the first one, and it came back with evidence of a livable planet, and had pictures of an olive tree to boot.

They landed and started all over, they booted up the cloning labs, and soon "unloaded" the entire populace onto this new world. Though things were different in this world. Great reptiles had once ruled the earth, but due to some shifts in its crust the climates had changed and killed them off. Noah and his "sons" started blending DNAs and started Cloneing as well. Soon the world was on its way to being reformed.

It still doesn't answer the question: were the owls orally probed?

Incest between humans and animals obviously would have been prevailent in the post-flood environment

Incest between humans and animals obviously would have been prevailent in the post-flood environment

I hope that wasn't the reply to my post just above ^^ hehe ;).

Assuming that Noah's Ark actually existed, it would be very much smaller than you think it is. From Einstein's Refrigerator;



Einstein's Refrigerator (http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless/noahs_ark/index.html)


Well, one thing is it wouldn't be nearly as saltly as you think it would be. Lets toss in lots more water, and the salt concentration drops by, lets say, a lot. Thus why there is plenty of water for us to drink in this world. Thats the whole thing behind ice caps melting. its not the water levels, its that it would lower the salt levels, and mess with temps and currents.

So water wouldn't be as much of a problem as you would think, though its all pointless anyways, look at my other post, its Project Noah.

It still doesn't answer the question: were the owls orally probed?

orally? no, they had their blood taken, much better to have live dna, oral swabbing tends to collect dead cells from the insides of the cheeks.

orally? no, they had their blood taken, much better to have live dna, oral swabbing tends to collect dead cells from the insides of the cheeks.

I'm sure you could draw blood that way if you really wanted...

uhh stupids, about whether or not he could reach all the species, the landmass was probably pangea (for those of you who don't know what that is, its all the continents combined)
i'm ashamed to be on the same planet with you

und Greater Oceanium, du kannst deine Mutter ficken

uhh stupids, about whether or not he could reach all the species, the landmass was probably pangea (for those of you who don't know what that is, its all the continents combined)
i'm ashamed to be on the same planet with you

und Greater Oceanium, du kannst deine Mutter ficken

I don't think you realise that 3/4 of this post has been sarcasm. I am amused by your post nonetheless ;) :p

Also, the fact that they have found seashells on top of Mt. Everest, as well, as the fact that nearly every culture has a flood myth, leads us to believe that there was, indeed, a catastrophic flood of global proportions.

That's absolute bull. The mountain range we now know of as the Himalayas did not exist until after the Indian plate collided with the Asian plate, about 140 million years ago. Prior to this, the area between the two continental plates was filled with a vast ocean, called the Tethys sea. When the two plates collided plate matter from between the plates - the rock embedded with millions of years of evolutionary fossils including those of shelled arthropods, which first appeared about 550 million years ago - rose up to form the Himalayan mountains, which are fold mountains (and incidentally, they are growing every year, as the Indian plate continues to move north 2cm per year).

The presence of fossil shells on Mount Everest is NOT an indication of a global flood (of which there is NO EVIDENCE of), merely a result of a tectonic plate collision.

I'm sure you could draw blood that way if you really wanted...

true, but it would be harder, though it would make it easier to draw blood on shelled animals, like the turtle. So, yes there might have been oral probes, but not for the owls.

true, but it would be harder, though it would make it easier to draw blood on shelled animals, like the turtle. So, yes there might have been oral probes, but not for the owls.

Awesome...you have added a ray of sunshine into a dark, dark day!

uhh stupids, about whether or not he could reach all the species, the landmass was probably pangea (for those of you who don't know what that is, its all the continents combined)
i'm ashamed to be on the same planet with you

If you'd read the thread, you'd know that i've already refuted that point.

true, but it would be harder, though it would make it easier to draw blood on shelled animals, like the turtle. So, yes there might have been oral probes, but not for the owls.

I think my idea of putting them into a blender and collecting the goo is best.

It still doesn't answer the question: were the owls orally probed?
Perhaps nasally, or aurally, maybe even optically. Of course, the latter only works if one is missing an eye.

If you'd read the thread, you'd know that i've already refuted that point.

I don't think he read the thread...

Have any of you read the Epic of Gilgamesh? Basically its a flood story that was written in cuneiform way back in the day. The story predates that whole genesis thing by a few hundred years at least. I suggest you all google it.

On a side note, almost all of the stories in the bible can be found in history earlier than the bible appeared, although under different dieties and religions. The devil didn't even appear in the bible until the hebrews encountered the Zoroastrians.

Thought I would share.

Well, one thing is it wouldn't be nearly as saltly as you think it would be. Lets toss in lots more water, and the salt concentration drops by, lets say, a lot. Thus why there is plenty of water for us to drink in this world. Thats the whole thing behind ice caps melting. its not the water levels, its that it would lower the salt levels, and mess with temps and currents.

So water wouldn't be as much of a problem as you would think, though its all pointless anyways, look at my other post, its Project Noah.

I don't understand exactly what you're debating. Regardless, the world's available fresh water comes from two places: rain, filling catchments like lakes and rivers; and subterranean aquifers. The fresh water present in the polar ice caps does NOT count, as it is locked there, and it's not going to melt any time soon (in fact, the ice shelves and icebergs are sea ice, aka ice formed from sea water which is salty) - however, what icebergs do melt are made of salt water anyway, so that does not effect global 'temperatures and currents'. Speaking of which, don't get your science from popular culture. "The Day Aftr Tomorrow" is not a science journal.

Perhaps nasally, or aurally, maybe even optically. Of course, the latter only works if one is missing an eye.

Or you're willing to lose an eye for the oh-so-important operation!

I want to know what Noah did about all those asexual bacterial strains, zooplankton and diatoms. There are millions of different species of those but you only need one for propagation. How in the world did he catalogue all those tiny little guys???

Whoever wrote Genesis is a lying scumbag and I resent him with a deep and fiery hatred.
Well, no one person wrote Genesis. I was creation myth passed down for some undetermined amount of time before it was finally written down by the Hebrews, if I remember correctly.

Although yeah, I guess that the most primitive Homo Sapiens could have emerged no earlier than 1.8 million years ago.
I am sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine. In proper Linnaean taxonomy, the genus is majuscule (uppercase/capitalised), and the species is miniscule (lowercase). And it is either italicised or underlined, preferably the former when it is possible. Therefore there are two possibilities: Homo sapiens and Homo sapiens. Never, ever capitalise the species name in binomial nomenclature.

I want to know what Noah did about all those asexual bacterial strains, zooplankton and diatoms. There are millions of different species of those but you only need one for propagation. How in the world did he catalogue all those tiny little guys???

N.O.A.H was a fascinating operation. And he used his mind powers..duh!

Have any of you read the Epic of Gilgamesh? Basically its a flood story that was written in cuneiform way back in the day. The story predates that whole genesis thing by a few hundred years at least. I suggest you all google it.

On a side note, almost all of the stories in the bible can be found in history earlier than the bible appeared, although under different dieties and religions. The devil didn't even appear in the bible until the hebrews encountered the Zoroastrians.

Thought I would share.


Actually you're wrong, the devil is found in the book of Job, and since Zoroastrians may be older then Genisis and such, Job is much older. Though its all based on who said what where when and how often did they get covered up and such. So its an endless debate....check out my project Noah, makes less fighting if you just accept it. lol

I am sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine. In proper Linnaean taxonomy, the genus is majuscule (uppercase/capitalised), and the species is miniscule (lowercase). And it is either italicised or underlined, preferably the former when it is possible. Therefore there are two possibilities: Homo sapiens and Homo sapiens. Never, ever capitalise the species name in binomial nomenclature.

Word. It's like... like.. doing something heinous!

I want to know what Noah did about all those asexual bacterial strains, zooplankton and diatoms. There are millions of different species of those but you only need one for propagation. How in the world did he catalogue all those tiny little guys???
Noah only took animals with him. If you know your classifications, then you know that bacteria are not even in the same domain as animals. But we're just getting silly now, I've said things like this a lot of times already, especially in Genesis in what it says God created, forgetting bacteria, protists, fungi, viruses, and prions. But I'm too tired right now to continue this train of thought.

I don't understand exactly what you're debating. Regardless, the world's available fresh water comes from two places: rain, filling catchments like lakes and rivers; and subterranean aquifers. The fresh water present in the polar ice caps does NOT count, as it is locked there, and it's not going to melt any time soon (in fact, the ice shelves and icebergs are sea ice, aka ice formed from sea water which is salty) - however, what icebergs do melt are made of salt water anyway, so that does not effect global 'temperatures and currents'. Speaking of which, don't get your science from popular culture. "The Day Aftr Tomorrow" is not a science journal.

I think you missed glacial melting.

Nice of you to reiterate that Hollywood does not do dissertations :)

N.O.A.H was a fascinating operation. And he used his mind powers..duh!

thats right, and I might just have to make a website to prove it, cause after all, if its found on the web, or if google finds it, its true...ha!

Hey, you want to be the first Priest of the Order of Operation Noah? or POON

I'm the Pope of the Order of Operation Noah, also POON

uhh stupids, about whether or not he could reach all the species, the landmass was probably pangea (for those of you who don't know what that is, its all the continents combined)
i'm ashamed to be on the same planet with you

und Greater Oceanium, du kannst deine Mutter ficken
I wouldn't let anyone do that to MY mother. Well, except my father, for obvious reasons (I've never wished I'd never been born for one).

I am sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine. In proper Linnaean taxonomy, the genus is majuscule (uppercase/capitalised), and the species is miniscule (lowercase). And it is either italicised or underlined, preferably the former when it is possible. Therefore there are two possibilities: Homo sapiens and Homo sapiens. Never, ever capitalise the species name in binomial nomenclature.

You are forgiven. It's 5 35 in the morning here and I haven't slept. A little laziness should be tolerated. At least it's not 31337 5pk

I think you missed glacial melting.

Nice of you to reiterate that Hollywood does not do dissertations :)

Haha, yes, I did miss glacial melting. However, whatever effect they have on the world's ocean salinity (compared to, say, the alleged polar melting) would be negligable because they simply do not hold enough water.

Pleasure. ;)

Noah only took animals with him. If you know your classifications, then you know that bacteria are not even in the same domain as animals. But we're just getting silly now, I've said things like this a lot of times already, especially in Genesis in what it says God created, forgetting bacteria, protists, fungi, viruses, and prions. But I'm too tired right now to continue this train of thought.

Zooplankton are indeed animals, as are diatoms. A lot of people mistake some sea creatures as being plants (such as anemones), when they are really animals.

Noah only took animals with him. If you know your classifications, then you know that bacteria are not even in the same domain as animals. But we're just getting silly now, I've said things like this a lot of times already, especially in Genesis in what it says God created, forgetting bacteria, protists, fungi, viruses, and prions. But I'm too tired right now to continue this train of thought.


No, Dr Noah did take all the little guys too, he knew that many animals must use these things to digest food, and such. Also he was hoping to make a bundle holding the only patents on the worlds medicine, but he is currently in stasis hiding for the Generals of Destruction, and their Senior Spy.

thats right, and I might just have to make a website to prove it, cause after all, if its found on the web, or if google finds it, its true...ha!

Hey, you want to be the first Priest of the Order of Operation Noah? or POON

I'm the Pope of the Order of Operation Noah, also POON

Ok I'll be the first Priest! I want to be an Archbishop actually..

All Laymen outside the Order are hereby declared: LOONs!

EDIT: Maybe they should be LOOONs? Hmm...something interesting that will have to be discussed at the first convention of the Bisops of the Order of Operation Noah, (BOONs); convention = CBOONs.

Well, no one person wrote Genesis. I was creation myth passed down for some undetermined amount of time before it was finally written down by the Hebrews, if I remember correctly.


It was sarcasm anyway..

Ok I'll be the first Priest! I want to be an Archbishop actually..

All Laymen outside the Order are hereby declared: LOONs!

Ok, you can be an ArchBishop, it will be Benidicted ArchBishop of Operation Noah or BABOON

Noah only took animals with him. If you know your classifications, then you know that bacteria are not even in the same domain as animals. But we're just getting silly now, I've said things like this a lot of times already, especially in Genesis in what it says God created, forgetting bacteria, protists, fungi, viruses, and prions. But I'm too tired right now to continue this train of thought.

Technically, the Bible doesn't list these things anyway because back when the Bible was written, they didn't know about good ol' viruses and bacteria and zooplankton and mitochondria and thus, for them, they did not exist.

Zooplankton are indeed animals, as are diatoms. A lot of people mistake some sea creatures as being plants (such as anemones), when they are really animals.
Well, zooplankton are obviously animals. "Zoo-" is derived from the Greek zoion, meaning "animal". Thus a zoologist studies animals. But you had mentioned bacteria, which are their own domain and kingdom. And diatoms are not animals, sorry to burst your bubble. They are protists.

And of course sea anemones are animals, as are corals to take another off the top of my head.

Ok, you can be an ArchBishop, it will be Benidicted ArchBishop of Operation Noah or BABOON

And my toilet shalt henceforth be known as:

The Khazi of the Amatory Benedicted ArchBishop of Operation Noah: KABAOOM

Mayb the story is an elaborate metaphor? Perhaps Noah carried a Platonic conception of these many animals in his mind eye, and they subsequently achieved material substance through the benevolent grace of the Holy Father.

to further it all


Actually Jesus was an alien, his space ship, known as the Ghost, came down to infiltrate the world that Dr. Noah had set up in the Noah project. He found a matching DNA woman, and impregnated herself into her, and then had to use his space tech to make her husband understand and not just kill her. Using advanced genitics he allowed himself to retain his memory and advanced knowledge, as well as his mental powers. He then started an order to keep an eye on the world, and would have gotten away clean, except he got caught by the secret police of Noah, also known as the JEWS or Justice Enforcement Warriors. They then killed him, but failed to stop his space ship that took his body, they healed him, put him back together, but couldn't get rid of some of the scars, he was sent back down to leave final orders, and left again. Only to return in the future with a more massive fleet and destroy the earth, though his followers will be taken first.

He is a citizen of the Generals of Destruction and so he is their "son"


a post of mine from a different thread

Technically, the Bible doesn't list these things anyway because back when the Bible was written, they didn't know about good ol' viruses and bacteria and zooplankton and mitochondria and thus, for them, they did not exist.
Umm...sorry, but mitochondria are ATP producer organelles in eukaryotes. They are in humans as well. And naturally no-one knew about micro-organisms, viruses, and prions back then, which is proof that God obviously doesn't have a solution to everything.

And my toilet shalt henceforth be known as:

The Khazi of the Amatory Benedicted ArchBishop of Operation Noah: KABAOOM

You may use your Bishop powers however you see fit. When my organization is started, I'll let you know ^_^

Umm...sorry, but mitochondria are ATP producer organelles in eukaryotes. They are in humans as well. And naturally no-one knew about micro-organisms, viruses, and prions back then, which is proof that God obviously doesn't have a solution to everything.
I think you are missing the truth of the Noah Project.

Umm...sorry, but mitochondria are ATP producer organelles in eukaryotes. They are in humans as well. And naturally no-one knew about micro-organisms, viruses, and prions back then, which is proof that God obviously doesn't have a solution to everything.

I realise this. I was attempting, apparently unsuccessfully, to be humerous by mentioning something in a serious light that had absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about. But wait, it did! They didn't know about it! Thus your post was essentially pointless.

Umm...sorry, but mitochondria are ATP producer organelles in eukaryotes. They are in humans as well. And naturally no-one knew about micro-organisms, viruses, and prions back then, which is proof that God obviously doesn't have a solution to everything.

It doesn't prove that.. It could also suggest that God chose not to offer a solution to everything. Life would be so boring if there was nothing to seek..

Thus your post was essentially pointless.
My post was meant to educate. Many people go around spouting off pseudo-science they half-remember from high school biology, and I was trying to correct any misconceptions. Apparently you know what mitochondria are, so it was pointless.

I also like flauting my knowledge--since I have very little of a social life, all I can do is sit at home and do research on biology, primarily pathology and entomology, all day after school.

You may use your Bishop powers however you see fit. When my organization is started, I'll let you know ^_^

Lol email me: Hustor222@hotmail.com

I shall use my most bishoply powers to further the cause for Operation NOAH: What is it? Where did it come from? Who invented operation NOAH?

We may never conquer by the pen. But we shall surely prevail with felt tips!

It doesn't prove that.. It could also suggest that God chose not to offer a solution to everything. Life would be so boring if there was nothing to seek..
So, let me get this straight. God tells us exactly how to live our lives and what to believe in without straying, according to Exodus, but leaves some things out of what actually happened in his account of the creation of the universe in order to excite his followers? I don't buy it...

My post was meant to educate. Many people go around spouting off pseudo-science they half-remember from high school biology, and I was trying to correct any misconceptions. Apparently you know what mitochondria are, so it was pointless.

I also like flauting my knowledge--since I have very little of a social life, all I can do is sit at home and do research on biology, primarily pathology and entomology, all day after school.

Haha, I'm guilty of the same charge, I'm afraid, although my interests usually lie in the direction of astronomy, geology and zoology.

My post was meant to educate. Many people go around spouting off pseudo-science they half-remember from high school biology, and I was trying to correct any misconceptions. Apparently you know what mitochondria are, so it was pointless.

I also like flauting my knowledge--since I have very little of a social life, all I can do is sit at home and do research on biology, primarily pathology and entomology, all day after school.

It's all in good faith. I may never forget again that Homo sapien should be written as displayed TT. Flauting your education...interesting ;) Then again...if you meant flouting then it's not a good way to get people to believe you ;). Mocking what you say is never good! Nor is openly disregarding it for that matter..

Lol email me: Hustor222@hotmail.com

I shall use my most bishoply powers to further the cause for Operation NOAH: What is it? Where did it come from? Who invented operation NOAH?

We may never conquer by the pen. But we shall surely prevail with felt tips!

OR paint brushes!!

So, let me get this straight. God tells us exactly how to live our lives and what to believe in without straying, according to Exodus, but leaves some things out of what actually happened in his account of the creation of the universe in order to excite his followers? I don't buy it...

Nor do I.

Nor do I.

Nor do I. In fact, I don't believe any of it. Go atheism, the one true logic. ;)

OR paint brushes!!

When the pen has failed. When the felt tip has failed. Only then - and only then - shall we resort to the paint brush! Fear the paint brush: it is through this that the True Power of Operation NOAH will be spread, if all else fails!

Nor do I. In fact, I don't believe any of it. Go atheism, the one true logic. ;)

Perhaps. Agnosticism is another viable logic, however..

I believe that there actually was a flood, however, I think that only the middle east was flooded. That is the area were scientists have found the most evidence for a flood, and for Hebrews at that time that was the known world. I personally believe that there was a Noah, but its obvious that he didn't grab every last mosquito/ larva/ bug thing. I think that a lot of the Bible is not literal nad I also believe that much may have been lost during its various millions of translations. But almost every culture back then had a flood story, Greeks, Sumarians, etc. Also, they had either one man or one man and his family surviving it. Coincidence: possible but none to likely, as the various religions agreed on almost nothing else. I am not a fundamentalist, but I don't think the should be insulted unless they are being beligerent, like sadly, many are. But you should never make fun of someone for there personal beliefs. That being said, I think that if someone believes the Earth is only 6000 years old, then they aren't using the brain God gave them. I wont rule out anything though. I mean after all, who of us was around back then. Except of course for the aliens. ;)

Some men's cubics are longer than others :D

We, the extraterrestrials, did it... Noah just decided to steal the credit. Anyhow, the reason the top of Mt. Everest has seashells is because the land that is now Mt. Everest was one flat and underwater. It wasn't until the Indian sub-continent slammed into Asia until Everest was pushed up out of the ocean. Anyhow, if Noah really did it how did he keep the carnivores from devouring him or the other animals? The answer is simple, he didn't do it, we with out superior technology did it by storing the animals in data-form in which thier molecules were reassembled after the weather calmed down. Our method works better because if only two animals of each species were stored in an "ark" then there would be no genetic diversity and the animals would quickly die off if one of the mates die prematurely. With out method we can store the genetic code of many many more individuals of a species. Does our logic not work well? Yes, God was pissed off at us for a bit but when he realized he destroyed most of his creations he was rather glad that we saved some. Our rewards were even bigger and superior brains :D

Haha, I'm guilty of the same charge, I'm afraid, although my interests usually lie in the direction of astronomy, geology and zoology.

Hah hah! NERD!

Wait a second...

I play Final Fantasy constantly, I watch Anime, I'm a friggen genius, I watch the History and Discovery Channels in my free time, I'm on the High-Honor Role, I spend my life writing fantasies, I have conquered races, destroyed planets, harvested resources, I have taken over the world(these last four were in Video-games, of course), I spend 95% of my time indoors(but I CAN do Push-ups, sit-ups, etc)...

Slash that. I hereby proclaim myself the King Of All Loathed Apemen(K.O.A.L.A.)

Baisically, King of the Nerds.

We, the extraterrestrials, did it... Noah just decided to steal the credit. Anyhow, the reason the top of Mt. Everest has seashells is because the land that is now Mt. Everest was one flat and underwater. It wasn't until the Indian sub-continent slammed into Asia until Everest was pushed up out of the ocean. Anyhow, if Noah really did it how did he keep the carnivores from devouring him or the other animals? The answer is simple, he didn't do it, we with out superior technology did it by storing the animals in data-form in which thier molecules were reassembled after the weather calmed down. Our method works better because if only two animals of each species were stored in an "ark" then there would be no genetic diversity and the animals would quickly die off if one of the mates die prematurely. With out method we can store the genetic code of many many more individuals of a species. Does our logic not work well? Yes, God was pissed off at us for a bit but when he realized he destroyed most of his creations he was rather glad that we saved some. Our rewards were even bigger and superior brains :D


Bringers of Falseness, Dr. Noah shamed you and now you try to disprove him. Project Noah lives on!!

Bringers of Falseness, Dr. Noah shamed you and now you try to disprove him. Project Noah lives on!!

In our heart and in our mind,
Another truth we shall never find,
NOAH is the only way,
I'm sorry, but I had to say!

Hah hah! NERD!

Wait a second...

I play Final Fantasy constantly, I watch Anime, I'm a friggen genius, I watch the History and Discovery Channels in my free time, I'm on the High-Honor Role, I spend my life writing fantasies, I have conquered races, destroyed planets, harvested resources, I have taken over the world(these last four were in Video-games, of course), I spend 95% of my time indoors(but I CAN do Push-ups, sit-ups, etc)...

Slash that. I hereby proclaim myself the King Of All Loathed Apemen(K.O.A.L.A.)

Baisically, King of the Nerds.

Let's compare. I read, write, watch and generally live science fiction; I study Physics and Geology at school (and Astronomy, Astrophysics, and Zoological biology in my free time); I render planets on photoshop; roleplay; prefer Discovery and National Geographic channels over MTV and New Scientist/Scientific American over Cosmo; speak HTML (and some words of Vulcan); spend all accountable time indoors, generally on the computer...

I declare myself the Queen of Nerds. We are sad.

prefer Discovery and National Geographic channels over MTV .

MTV sucks anyway. You made a wise choice.

thats odd, acronyms, and such......odd I say...I would never use one....... ;)

POON

thats odd, acronyms, and such......odd I say...I would never use one....... ;)

POON

You, as the Pope, are the only one still in mental contact with the great NOAH himself. You are created in the image of the great Noah. And everything you say is fact. How is NOAH nowadays anyway?

I may require my KABAOOM soon TT.

Fools, don't you know that aliens created us! L. Ron Hubbard said so. :D

You, as the Pope, are the only one still in mental contact with the great NOAH himself. You are created in the image of the great Noah. And everything you say is fact. How is NOAH nowadays anyway?

I may require my KABAOOM soon TT.

The great NOAH sleeps, though he has divined many secrets upon me using his powers of the mind. great visions I have seen, and I fear that spys walk amongst us, the Catholics are working against us. They are our anti-selves. Beware their kinds...oh, and the holy food is pudding, the kind you buy in the cup. yum ^_^

Let's compare. I read, write, watch and generally live science fiction; I study Physics and Geology at school (and Astronomy, Astrophysics, and Zoological biology in my free time); I render planets on photoshop; roleplay; prefer Discovery and National Geographic channels over MTV and New Scientist/Scientific American over Cosmo; speak HTML (and some words of Vulcan); spend all accountable time indoors, generally on the computer...

I declare myself the Queen of Nerds. We are sad.

I read, write, and watch science fiction, fantasy, and historical fiction; I study History, social sciences, debate, and geography in at school(And all of them as well as battlefield tactics, armaments, and general war stuff in my free time); I am an Uber Final Fantasy Freak; I create battleplans and weapons on GIMP; roleplay(on World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy XI: Online); I watch alot of Anime; prefer the History Channel to MTV(anyday),prefer Techno, Classical, and videogame music instead of Rock, prefer Discovery over Nick, prefer Discovery Civilization/Times over cartoon network(except for when Futurama or Anime is on); Have read the Lord of The Rings series, the Enders Game Series, the Enders Shadow Series, the Silmarillion, the Book of Unfinished Tales, The Book of Lost Tales I AND II, The Plot Against America, Hannibal: Enemy of Rome, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and am reading Mein Kampf; I speak English, Spanish, phrases of Arabic, and a few words of Urdu, 1337 $p34k, and Basic HTML; I spend all free time indoors(except for when there is a Baseball game, I'm playing Capture the Flag with my friends, am doing Paintball, or watching a historical reenactment), and then I'm either researching politics, history, Poland(I'm part Polish, y'know. My last name is the same as Jan III Sobieski's mother, so I'm related to the saviour of European Civilization), Arabic, Islam, playing a Final Fantasy game, looking up cheats, watching NewGrounds Flash, reading a novel, trying to get various Linux Distro's to work, looking at the shiny new Mac's, or watching the Red Sox/Patriots.

Beat THAT!

I hereby declare myself EMPEROR of Nerds!

The great NOAH sleeps, though he has divined many secrets upon me using his powers of the mind. great visions I have seen, and I fear that spys walk amongst us, the Catholics are working against us. They are our anti-selves. Beware their kinds...oh, and the holy food is pudding, the kind you buy in the cup. yum ^_^

I KNEW it. It's a conspiracy. One day all shall know that NOAH is: the truth; the one truth; the only truth.

Yum pudding is good. What's the Holy Drink? I suggest a double shot of Vodka, with Malibu and Taboo.

Carnation instant breakfast :D

I KNEW it. It's a conspiracy. One day all shall know that NOAH is: the truth; the one truth; the only truth.

Yum pudding is good. What's the Holy Drink? I suggest a double shot of Vodka, with Malibu and Taboo.
ahh, I see you do have a gift

the holy drink is Vodka. the word meaning little water, for Noah saw it as good and needed as water. Though it seems only the russians follow this more close then others. Though the Russians are one of Noah's personal gene splices.

I read, write, and watch science fiction, fantasy, and historical fiction; I study History, social sciences, debate, and geography in at school(And all of them as well as battlefield tactics, armaments, and general war stuff in my free time); I am an Uber Final Fantasy Freak; I create battleplans and weapons on GIMP; roleplay(on World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy XI: Online); I watch alot of Anime; prefer the History Channel to MTV(anyday),prefer Techno, Classical, and videogame music instead of Rock, prefer Discovery over Nick, prefer Discovery Civilization/Times over cartoon network(except for when Futurama or Anime is on); Have read the Lord of The Rings series, the Enders Game Series, the Enders Shadow Series, the Silmarillion, the Book of Unfinished Tales, The Book of Lost Tales I AND II, The Plot Against America, Hannibal: Enemy of Rome, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and am reading Mein Kampf; I speak English, Spanish, phrases of Arabic, and a few words of Urdu, 1337 $p34k, and Basic HTML; I spend all free time indoors(except for when there is a Baseball game, I'm playing Capture the Flag with my friends, am doing Paintball, or watching a historical reenactment), and then I'm either researching politics, history, Poland(I'm part Polish, y'know. My last name is the same as Jan III Sobieski's mother, so I'm related to the saviour of European Civilization), Arabic, Islam, playing a Final Fantasy game, looking up cheats, watching NewGrounds Flash, reading a novel, trying to get various Linux Distro's to work, looking at the shiny new Mac's, or watching the Red Sox/Patriots.

Beat THAT!

I hereby declare myself EMPEROR of Nerds!

1.618 is the answer to all of your questions.

Pizza then is the Holiest of fake Italian foods I presume?

ahh, I see you do have a gift

the holy drink is Vodka. the word meaning little water, for Noah saw it as good and needed as water. Though it seems only the russians follow this more close then others. Though the Russians are one of Noah's personal gene splices.

Of course...the Russians! They are yet to play their part as the world becomes enlightened...NOAH is the: way Fowards; one way Forwards; true way Forwards. Quite clearly anyone who can not see this is Backwards. And as NOAH once said: "He who is Backwards will never see the true way Forwards".

Why did you save Mosquitos? Just to be a jackass?

Pizza then is the Holiest of fake Italian foods I presume?

Pizza holiest of fake italian foods???

anything that tries to copy the Italians is an abomination. The italians are the long used toys of others, they have become weak, and useless (no offense).

Even the catholics push them around.

Why did you save Mosquitos? Just to be a jackass?

We're sorry.

Pizza holiest of fake italian foods???

anything that tries to copy the Italians is an abomination. The italians are the long used toys of others, they have become weak, and useless (no offense).

Even the catholics push them around.

NEWS FLASH: Italy is a Catholic Country!

Besides, the Italians suck.

Why did you save Mosquitos? Just to be a jackass?
to spread diesese, all vaccines come from Noah, and the church of Noah, its a very deep secret, kinda like Men In Black owning alien tech to pay for thiers, only ours is bigger, we loan money to the MIB to help us keep tabs on any of the Generals of Destruction and their minions, like the pope and such.

NEWS FLASH: Italy is a Catholic Country!

Besides, the Italians suck.
thus the part where the Catholics push them around, after all the pope is a pole that has 100 swiss guards

to spread diesese, all vaccines come from Noah, and the church of Noah, its a very deep secret, kinda like Men In Black owning alien tech to pay for thiers, only ours is bigger, we loan money to the MIB to help us keep tabs on any of the Generals of Destruction and their minions, like the pope and such.

Disease is good: for only NOAH may truly cure the diseased. Afterall, was it not NOAH that showed Jesus the light and gave him, for a time, the power to cure others?

Awesome, what sacrifice would you have me offer to you?

Awesome, what sacrifice would you have me offer to you?

If you are prepared to draw blood from a parrot Orally...NOAH will give you his services.

Thats all, geez, who hasn't done that?

Thats all, geez, who hasn't done that?

Only those who are yet to find truth in NOAH. heheh.

I hearby declare you immortal.

LEGAL DISCLAIMER:

Section1(a): Thou shalt remain immortal only in soul and not in body.
Section1(b): Thou soul shalt be sent to paradise where thou shalt feast on the flesh of chickens forever.

Alright! Its about time someone recognized my greatness. With my immortality I create my own religion and subvert yours bwahahahahaha!

Alright! Its about time someone recognized my greatness. With my immortality I create my own religion and subvert yours bwahahahahaha!

Come on...that's not allowed. You can be a Bishop in our religion...we shall co-erce you ;)

Also they say thatonly the animals from the region got there. Also i read that the arc couldn't haave, out of the materials available, stood up structurally.

NO!.... Stop!...mind changing... brain...oyster...strudel...arghmpf. Yes master, I exist only serve.

NO!.... Stop!...mind changing... brain...oyster...strudel...arghmpf. Yes master, I exist only serve.

That's the spirit! ;) Mind-altering drugs WERE NOT used ( :gundge: )...no really...they weren't!

I shall now serve master by signing off so that I will be able to awaken for Linear Algebra in the moning. Live long and prosper!

I shall now serve master by signing off so that I will be able to awaken for Linear Algebra in the moning. Live long and prosper!

Never die and always prosper!

I shall now serve master by signing off so that I will be able to awaken for Linear Algebra in the moning. Live long and prosper!
oh yeah, you need to send me some vodka, and I'll umm, bless it for you, and even filter it with my own kidneys for you.

oh yeah, you need to send me some vodka, and I'll umm, bless it for you, and even filter it with my own kidneys for you.

And send me some Holy Gold. Holy Gold always comes in handy when it comes to...urm...blessing NOAH.

...Also, the fact that they have found seashells on top of Mt. Everest...
As I'm sure this has been explained already I just laugh. loud.

:D

"Genesis 6:15 in the Bible tells us the Ark's dimensions were at least 135 meters long (300 cubits), 22.5 meters wide (50 cubits), and 13.5 meters high (30 cubits). That's 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high! It could have been larger because several larger-sized cubits were used. But the 45-centimeter (18-inch) cubit is long enough to show the enormous size of the Ark."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/arksize.html

"Noah's Ark was three stories high (Genesis 6:16). This made its total deck area equivalent to the area of about 36 lawn tennis courts. The average size of animal is about the size of an adult sheep. From this, scientists have calculated that the Ark could have held about 522 railroad stock cars full of sheep-sized animals. This is eight freight trains with 65 carriages on each!

Remember too that not every creature had to go on the Ark. Fish and other sea creatures didn't go on, and they account for a very large percentage of the world's animals. It was only land-dwelling, air-breathing animals that went on the Ark — and even many of them are very small, such as spiders, worms, beetles, etc.

When we realize that not every shade of butterfly, snake, kangaroo, or whatever had to go on board — just major “kinds” — we find that there might have been only about 35,000 animals on board.

So the question is not so much how did they all fit, but what did Noah use all the left-over room for?"

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/animalark.html
I had the same crap from a god-botherer once. I tried to point out that "No, only the average sheep is the size of a adult sheep. Elephants are much bigger. So to are Hippos, and girraffes and horses and cows..."
Didn't sink in. He just kept at the "but a mouse is smaller"
I also pointed out that the bit about:
'When we realize that not every shade of butterfly, snake, kangaroo, or whatever had to go on board — just major “kinds”'
Is agreeing with evolution, which they're against. They seem to think that a small horse-prototype animal - the size of a sheep - was led on board and in the last 4000 years has become every type of ungulate in existance. Including all the extinct ones. Super-evolution!
Then I asked him how the Kiwi and Tuatara got to NZ, and the fact their bones have never been found anywhere else. He got all smug and replied that 'didn't I know that the continents were all together back then? Hadn't I read my science books properly. It's obvious the kiwi and tuatara simply walked to NZ from Mt Ararat. Also no-ones found the bones yet, because no-ones looking for them.'
I was going to ask where did Noah get all the food from to feed 35 000 animals for more than a year, but I was kind of open-mouthed in awe at this man's incredible level of stupidity.
It was breath-taking.

Originally Posted By Hughski:
How big must Noah's Ark have been to fit each and every species on Earth onboard? Given that there are literally thousands of species, it must have been huge. If not all of the species could fit onboard the Ark then some must have come into existence afterwards. Could this have occurred due to the result of evolution or another mechanism?

ok...first of all...there was no "noahs ark" just to clear that up.
secondly, for all you so-called "believers" out there, before you start to bitch and whine, there were many, many more species out there. Billions of thousands. some of which havent been discovered yet...
There couldnt possibly be a big enough ship to hold that much.

ok ill finish this later class is over ;-)

ok...first of all...there was no "noahs ark" just to clear that up.
secondly, for all you so-called "believers" out there, before you start to bitch and whine, there were many, many more species out there. Billions of thousands. some of which havent been discovered yet...
There couldnt possibly be a big enough ship to hold that much.

ok ill finish this later class is over ;-)

Hmmm. Actually I believe that your point "billions of thousands" of species can be refuted. If only the animals were kept onboard the ship. Hmph. It just depends on how many trillions of species you're talking about here. But Dr. NOAH had the answer. He used the power of everything, and harnessed it through the beauty of nothing...

the only problems I can see with the whole concept ,, is the structural strength of wood up to the task?
I mean the damn things nearly as big as a modern cruiser!
also.. what did he feed the animals on?
and,,, only a tiny point.
where did the water go afterward?

Structural strength, I have no idea. Ask an enginner.

Feeding the animals? Well, if one of the above posts is correct that there was a lot of enpty space, then Noah would have had space for feed. But waht did they eat? I have no clue. I wasn't there.

The water from the flood is now in the oceans. It says that God carved out places for the water to go. Before this the earth was quite a bit smoother than now.

they gave measurements, and translating cubits into common terms, it was longer than a football field and as tall as a five story building

"Genesis 6:15 in the Bible tells us the Ark's dimensions were at least 135 meters long (300 cubits), 22.5 meters wide (50 cubits), and 13.5 meters high (30 cubits). That's 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high! It could have been larger because several larger-sized cubits were used. But the 45-centimeter (18-inch) cubit is long enough to show the enormous size of the Ark."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/arksize.html

"Noah's Ark was three stories high (Genesis 6:16). This made its total deck area equivalent to the area of about 36 lawn tennis courts. The average size of animal is about the size of an adult sheep. From this, scientists have calculated that the Ark could have held about 522 railroad stock cars full of sheep-sized animals. This is eight freight trains with 65 carriages on each!

Remember too that not every creature had to go on the Ark. Fish and other sea creatures didn't go on, and they account for a very large percentage of the world's animals. It was only land-dwelling, air-breathing animals that went on the Ark — and even many of them are very small, such as spiders, worms, beetles, etc.

When we realize that not every shade of butterfly, snake, kangaroo, or whatever had to go on board — just major “kinds” — we find that there might have been only about 35,000 animals on board.

So the question is not so much how did they all fit, but what did Noah use all the left-over room for?"

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/animalark.html

One thing I'd like to add to that discussion,

A cubit is the length from your elbow to the tip of the middle finger. According to various rabbis, modern day equivilant is about 22-29 inches. However, during skeletons have been found from Noah's time, some as tall as 11 feet! So if Noah was that big, his cubit would have been waaaay bigger then someone of todays.

So he may have had even more room.

The world was basically exactly the same as it is today. It takes millions of years for continental drift to be noticeable, and we simply havent been around that long.

That's based on a lot of assumptions that may or may not be accurate. If the sea was largely under ground and the "fountains of the deep" breaking up was the result of earth falling to the bottom of the sea and the polar caps were liquid you might have a whole different set of possibilities.

That's based on a lot of assumptions that may or may not be accurate. If the sea was largely under ground and the "fountains of the deep" breaking up was the result of earth falling to the bottom of the sea and the polar caps were liquid you might have a whole different set of possibilities.


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wha?

So the world was totally solid with the sea underground, and the only reasons oceans exist is because the ground caved in?

No way. I've never heard that theory before, it sounds totally implausible, and contradicts basically every scientist who has ever studied the continents.

Here, look- http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/glossary/Contdrift.shtml

(a nice simple explanation)

I'd like to see you refute the theory.

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wha?

So the world was totally solid with the sea underground, and the only reasons oceans exist is because the ground caved in?

No way. I've never heard that theory before, it sounds totally implausible, and contradicts basically every scientist who has ever studied the continents.

Here, look- http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/glossary/Contdrift.shtml

(a nice simple explanation)

I'd like to see you refute the theory.

Just one alternate theory that science ignores. As for refuting the theory you posted, I can't refute it anymore than you can refute mine.

BTW, I'd say that along with the possibility I mentioned atmospheric conditions would be derastically different, high oxygen content, different layering, major differences.

Also, the flood theory I mentioned above could also explain the amazing pressures needed to create the kind of fossile record currently in existance and also might seriously affect dating procedures as well.

Just one alternate theory that science ignores. As for refuting the theory you posted, I can't refute it anymore than you can refute mine.

BTW, I'd say that along with the possibility I mentioned atmospheric conditions would be derastically different, high oxygen content, different layering, major differences.

Also, the flood theory I mentioned above could also explain the amazing pressures needed to create the kind of fossile record currently in existance and also might seriously affect dating procedures as well.

I probably could refute that theory, but it's 5AM and I simply can't be bothered. So you can keep it. :)

I probably could refute that theory, but it's 5AM and I simply can't be bothered. So you can keep it. :)


I'm not saying that I have tested it, but there have been some very small scale model's that showed promising results. The problem is, everyone is so sold on alternate theories that getting money for research is a problem. Just think of how many variables we are talking about with that kind of a model: underground ocean currents, temp. pressures for a host of atmospheric gases, temperature for everything, air currents, distribution of mass, spead of planatary rotation, gravity, density.

Think about how much one little (by comparison) earth quake in the Indian Ocean did and imagine something with this kind of proportions, the waves it would generate, the pressures, etc.

I'm not claim to know that things happened this way, but there are certainly possibilities that make the Biblical acount of the flood somewhat more realistic.

not a single one of you that can challenge the TRUTH of the Dr Noah Project.

Yes, my liege. We shall tell the world. These infidels cannot stand before Dr. Noah's truth. Just tell me what do. I am even willing to suffer matrix algebra for you.

Yes, my liege. We shall tell the world. These infidels cannot stand before Dr. Noah's truth. Just tell me what do. I am even willing to suffer matrix algebra for you.

The world shall know the knowledge of Noah when their minds are not as mushy as they are now. What shred of "proof" stands against Noah? What can "science" say to disprove Noah? What can even religion say? They have lost the metaphores, they have lost true knowledge, and they have lost the eyes that were given for them to see. Soon the truth will be shown.

Currently my clerics are turning the sacred texts into informaton that can be shown on these primative web pages. Soon the world shall see again, the ARK.

The world shall know the knowledge of Noah when their minds are not as mushy as they are now. What shred of "proof" stands against Noah? What can "science" say to disprove Noah? What can even religion say? They have lost the metaphores, they have lost true knowledge, and they have lost the eyes that were given for them to see. Soon the truth will be shown.

Currently my clerics are turning the sacred texts into informaton that can be shown on these primative web pages. Soon the world shall see again, the ARK.

All hail N.O.A.H!

All hail N.O.A.H!

N.O.A.H is the way forwards.

And the KABAOOM is clearly the cleanest place to urinate!

not a single one of you that can challenge the TRUTH of the Dr Noah Project.
Of course we can't, cause it makes such wild jumps of logic that can't possibly be proved that it's obviously irrational.
You can't argue logic with an irrational person.
Every time someone states a reasonable argument against this fairy story, another outrageous and totally bizarre counter-claim is suddenly invented to 'refute' it. And yet the proponents don't realise just how increasingly bizarre and irrational their claims have become.
And demanding that we on the other side have to prove our position is called the burden of proof fallacy:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html


Look at some of the claims:
1. You couldn't fit all the different species of animals in the world in a boat.
Refute: There wasn't as many types! just one horse that evolved (very very very quickly) into every type of hoofed-mammal around (no proof for this given - the fact we haven't found said horse 'eve' is simply because we haven't looked hard enough);
2. Fossil records.
Refute - all that water squashed the sediment into layers and created the fossil beds. Which doesn't explain why all those mentioned above ungulates are there since they didn't 'evolve' until after the flood. Also the crushing water somehow causes all our dating measurements to be off by a few billion years. That makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:
I mean other than if it is true, then surely it's still happening now, so any fossil found under the ocean would be 'newer' than one found on land. But they're not.
3. Where did the water go?
The Earth was flat (!) and God created the ocean beds. Ever bit of evidence we have to the contrary we'll stick our fingers in our ears and go 'lalalalalala'
4. Why are there creatures that are particular to only one specific island and are found no-where else?
Refute - they walked! They wandered off the Ark and decided rather than mate then and there, they would walk 10s of thousands of kms before settling down. Luckily Pangea was around so they could. Oh, did we forget to mention that we've decided all the continents were squashed together 4000 years ago? Yep, then they whooshed apart but obviously slowed down within a year or two to their current rate of an inch or so a year. And no, we're not going to say how this could possibly happen.

We also have the outright crazy claim that ppl were much taller then, so the Ark would have been even bigger. Which goes against all scientific proof and even basic scientific understanding of geology, let alone fossil records and that humans stayed about the same height up until the last 100 years or so, and then have increased dramatically.

But hey! Why let science get in the way of an irrational and downright ludicrous fairy tale.
I think I might start go round telling ppl about all the evidence to support the stories in Grimm's story. Makes about as much sense.
I mean there is a forest in Germany. So surely that proves the Hansel story's true! And for further proof, someone once found a ginger biscuit there!
What more do you need!

Demented Hamsters... That was great!

I have always wondered how these rare species developed so incredibly quickly and how radioactive dating is dead wrong.

These creationists ignorants amuses me, but only so much. It's just mindboggling how some people can be that ignorant.

Thanks, for the great post!

Demented Hamsters... That was great!

I have always wondered how these rare species developed so incredibly quickly and how radioactive dating is dead wrong.

These creationists ignorants amuses me, but only so much. It's just mindboggling how some people can be that ignorant.

Thanks, for the great post!

Creationists ignorant? No, Atheists are the ignorant ones b/c they teach a theory which may be wrong but yet they don't teach other theories like creationsim, etc. Everyone also is ignorant at one ponit but who remains ignorant is the question. Secondly, the Ark only need hold all the young animals of all the land mammals. Thirdly, during the flood there was massive land changes b/c of the water. Fourthly, C-14 dating is acurate if all the variables are known such as the amount of C-14 in the animal when it died b/c the C-14 in the animal is equivalent to the # in the aor which is changing.

Of course we can't, cause it makes such wild jumps of logic that can't possibly be proved that it's obviously irrational.
You can't argue logic with an irrational person.
Every time someone states a reasonable argument against this fairy story, another outrageous and totally bizarre counter-claim is suddenly invented to 'refute' it. And yet the proponents don't realise just how increasingly bizarre and irrational their claims have become.
And demanding that we on the other side have to prove our position is called the burden of proof fallacy:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html


Look at some of the claims:
1. You couldn't fit all the different species of animals in the world in a boat.
Refute: There wasn't as many types! just one horse that evolved (very very very quickly) into every type of hoofed-mammal around (no proof for this given - the fact we haven't found said horse 'eve' is simply because we haven't looked hard enough);
2. Fossil records.
Refute - all that water squashed the sediment into layers and created the fossil beds. Which doesn't explain why all those mentioned above ungulates are there since they didn't 'evolve' until after the flood. Also the crushing water somehow causes all our dating measurements to be off by a few billion years. That makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:
I mean other than if it is true, then surely it's still happening now, so any fossil found under the ocean would be 'newer' than one found on land. But they're not.
3. Where did the water go?
The Earth was flat (!) and God created the ocean beds. Ever bit of evidence we have to the contrary we'll stick our fingers in our ears and go 'lalalalalala'
4. Why are there creatures that are particular to only one specific island and are found no-where else?
Refute - they walked! They wandered off the Ark and decided rather than mate then and there, they would walk 10s of thousands of kms before settling down. Luckily Pangea was around so they could. Oh, did we forget to mention that we've decided all the continents were squashed together 4000 years ago? Yep, then they whooshed apart but obviously slowed down within a year or two to their current rate of an inch or so a year. And no, we're not going to say how this could possibly happen.

We also have the outright crazy claim that ppl were much taller then, so the Ark would have been even bigger. Which goes against all scientific proof and even basic scientific understanding of geology, let alone fossil records and that humans stayed about the same height up until the last 100 years or so, and then have increased dramatically.

But hey! Why let science get in the way of an irrational and downright ludicrous fairy tale.
I think I might start go round telling ppl about all the evidence to support the stories in Grimm's story. Makes about as much sense.
I mean there is a forest in Germany. So surely that proves the Hansel story's true! And for further proof, someone once found a ginger biscuit there!
What more do you need!

Fossil records are icomplete b/c there should be hundreds of dinosaur bones and half species, quarter species, etc. True science doesn't get in the way of religion. It mearly helps it.

Noah's "Ark" == Vessel of Sekhinah == the Earth.
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God told Noah to make a planet out of wood in the shape of a rectangular prism?

Of course we can't, cause it makes such wild jumps of logic that can't possibly be proved that it's obviously irrational.
You can't argue logic with an irrational person.
Every time someone states a reasonable argument against this fairy story, another outrageous and totally bizarre counter-claim is suddenly invented to 'refute' it. And yet the proponents don't realise just how increasingly bizarre and irrational their claims have become.
And demanding that we on the other side have to prove our position is called the burden of proof fallacy:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html


Look at some of the claims:
1. You couldn't fit all the different species of animals in the world in a boat.
Refute: There wasn't as many types! just one horse that evolved (very very very quickly) into every type of hoofed-mammal around (no proof for this given - the fact we haven't found said horse 'eve' is simply because we haven't looked hard enough);
2. Fossil records.
Refute - all that water squashed the sediment into layers and created the fossil beds. Which doesn't explain why all those mentioned above ungulates are there since they didn't 'evolve' until after the flood. Also the crushing water somehow causes all our dating measurements to be off by a few billion years. That makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:
I mean other than if it is true, then surely it's still happening now, so any fossil found under the ocean would be 'newer' than one found on land. But they're not.
3. Where did the water go?
The Earth was flat (!) and God created the ocean beds. Ever bit of evidence we have to the contrary we'll stick our fingers in our ears and go 'lalalalalala'
4. Why are there creatures that are particular to only one specific island and are found no-where else?
Refute - they walked! They wandered off the Ark and decided rather than mate then and there, they would walk 10s of thousands of kms before settling down. Luckily Pangea was around so they could. Oh, did we forget to mention that we've decided all the continents were squashed together 4000 years ago? Yep, then they whooshed apart but obviously slowed down within a year or two to their current rate of an inch or so a year. And no, we're not going to say how this could possibly happen.

We also have the outright crazy claim that ppl were much taller then, so the Ark would have been even bigger. Which goes against all scientific proof and even basic scientific understanding of geology, let alone fossil records and that humans stayed about the same height up until the last 100 years or so, and then have increased dramatically.

But hey! Why let science get in the way of an irrational and downright ludicrous fairy tale.
I think I might start go round telling ppl about all the evidence to support the stories in Grimm's story. Makes about as much sense.
I mean there is a forest in Germany. So surely that proves the Hansel story's true! And for further proof, someone once found a ginger biscuit there!
What more do you need!


Ok, listen, oh simple minded unreading hot headed fool. If you were to READ my posts about Dr. Noah, you would find they are not about a flood, or craming animals into a boat or any of that BS you just lectured about.

1) DNA sampling of one of every animal, collected by a team of scientists
2) Fossil records of a word being destroyed and finding a NEW one....duh
3) The water in the first Earth was a disruption in waves casued by metorites
4) Dr Noah and his team split up, finding new homes for the DNA samples, as well as modify the DNA samples to work with the new earth.

Now, as I can bring up informaition that is very logical, though I doubt very many of you will listen to it because you can't "prove" it with your own eyes or hands, though there is nothing you can prove from that time period anyways, you will dismiss it and laugh. ha ha. Well, I don't mind, what I do mind is being quoted wrong and made the target of a post that has nothing to do with me.

Before making a post, don't just grab a post and randomly assume just because the word noah is in it, that its talking about the same thing. Use the brain in your head, the eyes on your face, and relilize things before going off.

What did they eat?
Duh, snickers!

kanabia, ure a dumass, albiet a supposedly smart one. It would have been comletely possible that Noah lived on Pangea. All this palentology and archaeology is mildly theoretical at best. THe only way to have known exactly when everything happened is to have actually been there. Modern science has its innacuracies, too, u know. Nothing, except possibly a non-denominational omnipotent deity (assuming one exists), is infallable

mad props to Elbonia, for knowing his german

Slinao, read the bible, it might teach u something, u godless heathen bastard, u and ur stupid acronyms.
and, Hughski, i hope, for the sake of the children, that u are just humouring him

der lieben, noah didn't choose to save mosquitos, u dolt, they could fly!! et tu?

lightning star is pretty nerdy Yay paintball!! we can both wallow in our blatant nerddom, or not, now that uve joined a satanic cult

props to dead hamster, mad props. That cracker's got it in him after all. just dont join N.O.A.H. and all will be right with the world

ditto for Teckor

Fossil records are icomplete b/c there should be hundreds of dinosaur bones and half species, quarter species, etc. True science doesn't get in the way of religion. It mearly helps it.
and because we lost a crapload of fossils during the fossil wars and world wars and previous civilizations.

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Slinao, read the bible, it might teach u something, u godless heathen bastard, u and ur stupid acronyms.
and, Hughski, i hope, for the sake of the children, that u are just humouring him

der lieben, noah didn't choose to save mosquitos, u dolt, they could fly!! et tu?

lightning star is pretty nerdy Yay paintball!! we can both wallow in our blatant nerddom, or not, now that uve joined a satanic cult

props to dead hamster, mad props. That cracker's got it in him after all. just dont join N.O.A.H. and all will be right with the world

ditto for Teckor

I have probally read the bible more then you have, I have studied it as well as had numours classes on it. I currently own 4 different translations of it, and lost my Old Testement written in hebrew with direct translations.

I am not without G-d nor am I a heathan bastard, for two reasons on that last part, one my father is known to me, and is still married to my mother so not a bastard, and heathen because I am not without religion. Just because I look at answers that others don't comprehend doesn't mean that I'm wrong or G-dless. Show me in the bible where I am wrong?

As for those that have supported my church, good job lads, plenty of vodka in store for those that stay true.

by heathen bastard, i meant pagan dumass

if uve read the bible so much, then why did u make up some bullshit story saying that noah was an alien?

IM sorry if this has been already said but...

Please for the love of any god in particular, READ THE GOD DAMNED BIBLE.

Noah, PLEASE READ THIS, did NOT take all te animals in the world in the ark. Please please remember this, for the love of god remember this, he took some cattle and a few farm animals. Whatevers with this every animal in da hole WoRlD rubbish, where did it come from.

Ples Noah didnt exist get over yourselves.

Ples Noah didnt exist get over yourselves.Yes he did. His name was Ziusudra and he built a ship to survive the Flood. But the Yah involved in all of this was not the corrupted version of Yahweh later worshipped by the witless retards who wrote the Bible and followed it (and still do). :D

Yes he did. His name was Ziusudra and he built a ship to survive the Flood. But the Yah involved in all of this was not the corrupted version of Yahweh later worshipped by the witless retards who wrote the Bible and followed it (and still do). :D
Thats not what Jack Chick says (now)

Seashells on mount everest don't mean bull. Mount everest was created when a large chunk of Africa colided with the Indian seashore and pushed it up until it was 3 miles high.

Plus, if there was a global flood so large it covered even the top of mount Everest... Where'd the water go? Even if it all evaporated, we'd have a world like that of Kamino in Star Wars: Episode II (i.e, either raining or raining even harder.)

Creationists ignorant? No, Atheists are the ignorant ones b/c they teach a theory which may be wrong but yet they don't teach other theories like creationsim, etc. Everyone also is ignorant at one ponit but who remains ignorant is the question. Secondly, the Ark only need hold all the young animals of all the land mammals. Thirdly, during the flood there was massive land changes b/c of the water. Fourthly, C-14 dating is acurate if all the variables are known such as the amount of C-14 in the animal when it died b/c the C-14 in the animal is equivalent to the # in the aor which is changing.

C-14 dating is not used to date everything, radioactive dating is much more accurate.

Creationsim is NOT A THEORY, but a religious fantasy. When are you guys going to learn the difference? Not that I expect otherwise from someone who did not finish 8th grade at school. If you had gone past 8th grade you would have known the difference between a scientific theory and a religious story.

IM sorry if this has been already said but...

Please for the love of any god in particular, READ THE GOD DAMNED BIBLE.

Noah, PLEASE READ THIS, did NOT take all te animals in the world in the ark. Please please remember this, for the love of god remember this, he took some cattle and a few farm animals. Whatevers with this every animal in da hole WoRlD rubbish, where did it come from.

Ples Noah didnt exist get over yourselves.

How do you he didn't? Also what if he simply took young animals on board? That would sure save room on the ship. And don't take the lord's name in vain. If your going to be against what the Bible says then at least have respect for ppls religious beliefs. plz. Thank you.

C-14 dating is not used to date everything, radioactive dating is much more accurate.

Creationsim is NOT A THEORY, but a religious fantasy. When are you guys going to learn the difference? Not that I expect otherwise from someone who did not finish 8th grade at school. If you had gone past 8th grade you would have known the difference between a scientific theory and a religious story.

A scientific theory can be proven. A religious story can be proven or disproven. Not much of a difference. Creationism is as much of a theory as Evolution. radioactive dating is hardly heard of. also, how do you know that it's acurate? With what information is it accurate? How much information makes it accurate? Also, I'm grade 10 with high 80's average. Just to let you know that Creationists aren't stupid.

by heathen bastard, i meant pagan dumass

if uve read the bible so much, then why did u make up some bullshit story saying that noah was an alien?


Why do I call him an alien, because he is, all humans are. We are a race that doesn't belong on the Earth, the bible is very clear on this, read it. Where does the bible say we will spend eternity? on the NEW Earth. Wait, does that mean our home isn't here? Wouldn't that make us....aliens? hmm, i'll have to ponder that one, hmmm, aliens.

Now, what in the bible says that Noah wasn't an alien, its shown over and over again that people write things in ways they understand it based on their time and technology. If you're talking to a bunch of people in the desert that carry their stuff in cloth, sheep is the main source of income, you don't talk about dna and cloning, cause they would be like, ok, new madman on the block.

Prove anything I've said about Dr. Noah wrong, I dare you. Use the bible to do it. And while you search, I'll know better then to think you can do it. I've been raised with the bible and believe me, I have a very very deep understanding of it. I'm not saying I'm right to say he was an alien, my whole point is, we don't know, I can rewrite the entire bible and still have the same understanding of the information that is there.

Noah is this, noah is that, omg, does anyone know who noah was? The oldest book in the bible is Job, yet there is very little people know about him, why? oh wait, cause its not the story thats important, its the example set forth in it.

He speaks the truth. Only the truth. Nothing but the truth.

Slinao is the new Pope.

He speaks the truth. Only the truth. Nothing but the truth.

Slinao is the new Pope.

Thank you my brethern, soon more works shall be put out, I've recently been addressed towards Noah's teacher, his grandfather...

Noah's Ark wasn't really all that big. Know why? Cause back then, animals were really friggin' small. You could fit a few thousand different kinds in a regular matchbox. But you had to keep them dry, because otherwise they'd grow to full size, like the little sponge animals you get from supermarket vending machines. This made Noah's job really hard, because he had to keep the animals dry even though it was raining all of the time. This is why there aren't any dinosaurs left. The matchbox they were in got wet and they started to grow to full size, so Noah had to throw them overboard so they wouldn't sink the tiny little Ark. They all drowned and that's why we have fossils. All the well behaved animals were safe and sound and Noah fed them Tetrafin every day until the rain ended and they landed the boat.

The end.

Noah's Ark wasn't really all that big. Know why? Cause back then, animals were really friggin' small. You could fit a few thousand different kinds in a regular matchbox. But you had to keep them dry, because otherwise they'd grow to full size, like the little sponge animals you get from supermarket vending machines. This made Noah's job really hard, because he had to keep the animals dry even though it was raining all of the time. This is why there aren't any dinosaurs left. The matchbox they were in got wet and they started to grow to full size, so Noah had to throw them overboard so they wouldn't sink the tiny little Ark. They all drowned and that's why we have fossils. All the well behaved animals were safe and sound and Noah fed them Tetrafin every day until the rain ended and they landed the boat.

The end.


.....cracker jack theology, at least I am a Pope.

Big enough for him and his wife, Joan of Arc!

Anybody else seen Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure?

.....cracker jack theology, at least I am a Pope.

Yes, some animals were stored in their original crackerjacks boxes, but only the caramelovores.

Yes, some animals were stored in their original crackerjacks boxes, but only the caramelovores.

Well, you were misinformed, dna samples must be kept in air tight, water tight non-reactive containors, much like glass. Any outside contaminent could destroy the dna samples, or make them change when the cloneing process happens, thus causeing a degragation of the genotypes, much like is happening now after Noah had to sleep, and his less then perfect students took over.