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Describe the ideal woman

Marcados Corporation
13-01-2005, 13:42
I was thinking of doing an RP story where a character is altered into looking like the ideal human woman when I realise I had no clue what that is. So I am asking for people description of the ideal woman (I like the ladies opinion to please, not just horny males :p ), please describe the features.

where possible include an link to an image of the "ideal" part please.

ie:-

Body Shape: - Hourglass/ pear/ apple/ rectangular etc
Face Shape: - Heart/ Oval etc
eye shape: - Almond/ oval etc
Skin colour:- Creamy white/ light tan/ black etc
Lip shape: - ?
Nose shape: - ?

And so forth, Please leave out bust size as that is covered with body shape!
Squealopia
13-01-2005, 13:56
I'm a horny female, can I still reply?

Body Shape: - Slim hourglass shape. That is, tall and very thin, but with a well-defined waist and bust. Kind of like this (http://www.mikas.se/images/gallery/8124_11673.jpg) (it's a weird picture, I know).
Face Shape: - Oval, definately not round.
eye shape: - Anything but narrow eyes.
Skin colour:- I'd say creamy white, on the edge of totally pale.
Lip shape: - Full lips.
Nose shape: - Narrow and overall kind of small nose, not a "buttony" nose though. The ideal lips and nose would look like this (http://www.mikas.se/images/gallery/8124_11192.jpg).
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 14:47
I agree with Erehwon Forest on body shape, and Squealopia on nose/lips and skin colour.
FairyTInkArisen
13-01-2005, 14:49
me!
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 14:51
Body Shape: - Hourglass/ pear/ apple/ rectangular etc
Face Shape: - Heart/ Oval etc
eye shape: - Almond/ oval etc
Skin colour:- Creamy white/ light tan/ black etc
Lip shape: - ?
Nose shape: - ?

And so forth, Please leave out bust size as that is covered with body shape!

Slim, pale to tan skinned, brown hair and brown eyes. Not too fussed about anything else. Natural blondes are nice too.
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 14:55
Me with boobs
The Segovene
13-01-2005, 15:02
I'm a horny female, can I still reply?

Body Shape: - Slim hourglass shape. That is, tall and very thin, but with a well-defined waist and bust. Kind of like this (http://www.mikas.se/images/gallery/8124_11673.jpg) (it's a weird picture, I know).
Face Shape: - Oval, definately not round.
eye shape: - Anything but narrow eyes.
Skin colour:- I'd say creamy white, on the edge of totally pale.
Lip shape: - Full lips.
Nose shape: - Narrow and overall kind of small nose, not a "buttony" nose though. The ideal lips and nose would look like this (http://www.mikas.se/images/gallery/8124_11192.jpg).

You and I, we think alike.

Me with boobs
...
Eutrusca
13-01-2005, 15:03
Well, if you're at all interested in what sort of female appearance an "older man" likes, take a look: http://ParadigmAssociates.org/Denise.jpg

Actually, the key to true appreciation of the fair sex is to look for that which makes a woman unique ... the arch of her neck, the grace of her hands, even the curve of her collarbone.
The Segovene
13-01-2005, 15:04
Well, if you're at all interested in what sort of female appearance an "older man" likes, take a look: http://ParadigmAssociates.org/Denise.jpg

Actually, the key to true appreciation of the fair sex is to look for that which makes a woman unique ... the arch of her neck, the grace of her hands, even the curve of her collarbone.

Dewd. Those are big. Can't be real. Can't be.
o.o
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 15:05
this (http://www.mikas.se/images/gallery/8124_11673.jpg) like this (http://www.mikas.se/images/gallery/8124_11192.jpg)

...Who is that woman? Me like. :p
Eutrusca
13-01-2005, 15:05
Dewd. Those are big. Can't be real. Can't be.
o.o
Are. :D
The Segovene
13-01-2005, 15:06
...Who is that woman? Me like. :p

Ditto.
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 15:07
Are. :D
I like big teeth
Eutrusca
13-01-2005, 15:07
I like big teeth
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What ... EVER! ROFL! :D
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 15:07
I like big teeth

I like pointy teeth.
The Segovene
13-01-2005, 15:08
If you like big, and/or pointy teeth, your ideal mate might just be a gargoyle.
Chess Squares
13-01-2005, 15:11
Dewd. Those are big. Can't be real. Can't be.
o.o
your kidding right?
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 15:12
If you like big, and/or pointy teeth, your ideal mate might just be a gargoyle.

I'm sure that would be a rather rocky relationship.
The Segovene
13-01-2005, 15:12
your kidding right?

Flip a coin.
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 15:14
But now for real:
I've given up finding the "ideal woman". There is no such thing. It's about the total picture. If you are small, but have a big butt it just doesn't look right.
Peechland
13-01-2005, 15:14
Anyone gonna describe what the ideal woman would be in regards to whats on the inside?
Kellarly
13-01-2005, 15:14
Flip a coin.

Heads = real

Tails = Fake


...


*flips coin*


My friends the answer is a good one! :D


But peechlands right...its not all about that by a very long way.
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 15:16
this (http://www.mikas.se/images/gallery/8124_11673.jpg).


She looks aneroxic. :(
The Segovene
13-01-2005, 15:17
Anyone gonna describe what the ideal woman would be in regards to whats on the inside?

Organs, I'd hope.
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 15:18
Organs, I'd hope.
indeed. Those are anything BUT appealing...


...unless you're some kind of sicko who fancies gargoyles
Peechland
13-01-2005, 15:20
Organs, I'd hope.


Oh look! Its "Funny's" cousin..........."Not Funny"
Boo Boo Kitty
13-01-2005, 15:20
Body Shape: - Hourglass... about size 4 in dresses. long legs, delicate frame.
Face Shape: - heart shaped
eye shape: - big doe eyes
Skin colour:- near-porcelain pale
Lip shape: - pouty lips... not quite angelina jolie or anything, but nice and full
Nose shape: - Average nose with a rounded tip (i cant stand those ski slope noses... they look like they could stab something)
The Segovene
13-01-2005, 15:21
Oh look! Its "Funny's" cousin..........."Not Funny"

I am serious, you know.
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 15:21
Anyone gonna describe what the ideal woman would be in regards to whats on the inside?

Why, individualistic, intelligent, caring, and slightly insane of course. :)
My Beautiful Ass
13-01-2005, 15:21
Jennifer Tilly, nuff said!!!!!!
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 15:21
Anyone gonna describe what the ideal woman would be in regards to whats on the inside?

Intelligent, savvy, playful, colourful, witty, spiritually alive, musical. All in moderation - not too much, not too little. A start. :)
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 15:23
Why, individualistic, intelligent, caring, and slightly insane of course. :)
I'd settle for insane :D
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 15:23
oh yes, how could I leave out musical?
Traveling Folk
13-01-2005, 15:24
For whatever reason, the original poster didn't ask about what the ideal woman is like inside. That, for me, is much easier to describe. However, I am going to assume that the ideal woman's looks are more important, and he already knows what this character is like on the inside.

Also, I disagree that bust size can be covered in body type. There are many small woman with large busts, and many heavy women with smaller busts. So, for me, the ideal woman's appearance:

1. Body type: slim but not skinny, small breasts, hips as wide as shoulders (for that balanced look), long legs, not very tall.
2. Face shape: Oval, with a slightly squared jaw and a delicate chin.
3. Eye shape: large, almond shape
4. Skin color: peaches and cream -- creamy skin with hints of warm color
5. Lip shape -- full lips, slightly pouty lower lip
6. Nose shape -- slightly long, straight

I have a thing for blondes (male or female), so I'd go with natural pale blonde hair. I also love deep dark brown eyes, or very dark blue. (I could be biased based on my boyfriend's coloring, though.)
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 15:39
Well, since this thread is mostly about 'looks' Rather than her brain.

Body Type: Normal, about my height.. Slightly Shorter (tee hee), so that when she wear long-heels, I don't seem like the small one.

Mine (http://ziyiforever.primenova.com/pictures/miscellaneous/038.jpg)

Honestly, I'm not very picky. I like nearly anygirl, as long as she's not horrible in nature and at least have a brain or two. :D

OH yeah. Don't necessarily have to be Asian. But because I am Asian, I guess it comes naturally, plus it's easier for me to mix culturally. :p
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 15:43
Well, since this thread is mostly about 'looks' Rather than her brain.

Body Type: Normal, about my height.. Slightly Shorter (tee hee), so that when she wear long-heels, I don't seem like the small one.

Mine (http://ziyiforever.primenova.com/pictures/miscellaneous/038.jpg)

Honestly, I'm not very picky. I like nearly anygirl, as long as she's not horrible in nature and at least have a brain or two. :D

OH yeah. Don't necessarily have to be Asian. But because I am Asian, I guess it comes naturally, plus it's easier for me to mix culturally. :p
At first sight I would think she was like 13 or something
Vittos Ordination
13-01-2005, 15:53
Me with boobs

That is fucking HOT

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
SilverCities
13-01-2005, 16:00
Body type: Hourglass.. but strong, if she is going to have to do some fighting at all you dont want her to be all reedy do you? Toned hips and thighs, reasonable bustline..
Skin tone: either extreme really pale or really dark, makes a statement and you can plan hair and eyes to stand out against it.
Eye shape: slightly tilted upwards, almond shaped
Lips: slightly full
Face shape: oval a bit wide at her cheekbones

BTW i am a girl too... :D
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 16:06
Legless... Thats Zhang Ziyi Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

I couldn't think of any other girl at the moment.
Belperia
13-01-2005, 16:08
Perfect woman? She must be three feet tall with a flat head so I have somewhere to rest my pint while she... y' know...

She must be able to parallel park, and have a complete inability to accurately gauge size, much like us men. This must be most apparent when discussing the size of my dick with her friends. :)
Peechland
13-01-2005, 16:10
Perfect woman? She must be three feet tall with a flat head so I have somewhere to rest my pint while she... y' know...

She must be able to parallel park, and have a complete inability to accurately gauge size, much like us men. This must be most apparent when discussing the size of my dick with her friends. :)


Well you certainly do sound charming.
Belperia
13-01-2005, 16:12
Well you certainly do sound charming.
I know. It's because my voice is a little deeper from the throat infection I'm recovering from.

Oh, and if she has a good sense of irony, all the better.
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 16:12
Well you certainly do sound charming.

*laughs*
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 16:14
I know. It's because my voice is a little deeper from the throat infection I'm recovering from.

Oh, and if she has a good sense of irony, all the better.
irony? Don't you mean "ironing"?

:eek:
John Browning
13-01-2005, 16:30
Denise Richards, completely naked
Belperia
13-01-2005, 16:58
irony? Don't you mean "ironing"?

:eek:
What the hell is "ironing"? :confused:
Sum Bitch
13-01-2005, 16:58
I like pointy teeth.

I like no teeth. ;)
CthulhuFhtagn
13-01-2005, 17:05
What the hell is "ironing"? :confused:
It's when you take an iron, heat it up, and whack people who don't what ironing is on the head.
Belperia
13-01-2005, 17:11
It's when you take an iron, heat it up, and whack people who don't what ironing is on the head.
That those people who miss "know" out? ;)

I know what you mean now. Those things that look like old mobile phones that burn your ears. Yes, yes I know them...
Faithfull-freedom
13-01-2005, 17:21
Ideal woman..... Is within the same reach as the ideal man. The ideal woman is one that (truly) Understands her man. Truly accepts who her man is and loves him for that. The same is said for the ideal man for that said woman. The problem I see is that women are always so much more willing to listen more than tell her man what it is that she truly wants. They seem to have a easy time giving and recieving what her man wants but how bout giving (info of what she wants) and recieving what she truly wants, whatever that may be? Honesty with a complete openess and pure blind faith that takes one another for granted within each others lives. Knowing without a question of doubt that the other will always be there for you when you need it most (or less). The only things we seem to be able to take for granted are the things that we know in our hearts that will always be there for us. Love with Absolute faith.
John Browning
13-01-2005, 17:22
Ideal woman..... Is within the same reach as the ideal man. The ideal woman is one that (truly) Understands her man. Truly accepts who her man is and loves him for that. The same is said for the ideal man for that said woman. The problem I see is that women are always so much more willing to listen more than tell her man what it is that she truly wants. They seem to have a easy time giving and recieving what her man wants but how bout giving (info of what she wants) and recieving what she truly wants, whatever that may be? Honesty with a complete openess and pure blind faith that takes one another for granted within each others lives. Knowing without a question of doubt that the other will always be there for you when you need it most (or less). The only things we seem to be able to take for granted are the things that we know in our hearts that will always be there for us. Love with Absolute faith.

yes, yes, but is she good in the sack?
Grave_n_idle
13-01-2005, 17:24
Anyone gonna describe what the ideal woman would be in regards to whats on the inside?

Like Peech... who said she was going to procure me Monster Munch! :)
John Browning
13-01-2005, 17:25
Anyone gonna describe what the ideal woman would be in regards to whats on the inside?

Really tight, with great muscle control.
Dingoroonia
13-01-2005, 17:26
My tastes seem to deviate from the scrawny, sun-damaged norm, so I thought I'd add my two cents worth...

My ideal woman would be :

- Nordic in color (very pale, light-colored hair, some freckles, green or blue eyes)

- somewhat rounded face (rather than that manly, axe-like thing on Sarah Jessica Parker's head, for instance)

- African in shape (curvy with a real waist, butt, thighs, and d-cups, not the 12-year-old-boy shape that is fashionable now)

- would take care of herself (exercise and minimal makeup) without being too "girly" to go camping

- would shave 'it' but leave a patch above (heart-shaped optional)

Lucky me, that's my wife =)
Dingoroonia
13-01-2005, 17:29
Anyone gonna describe what the ideal woman would be in regards to whats on the inside?
My thang, buried in her bottom!
Peechland
13-01-2005, 17:32
Like Peech... who said she was going to procure me Monster Munch! :)


awww....you charmer you. :fluffle:
Faithfull-freedom
13-01-2005, 17:35
yes, yes, but is she good in the sack?

Well if he/she understands, accepts and loves you for who thier loved one is. Then everything is Good for the both of them in every possible way. This becomes unconditional love. Throwing away your expectations and knowing the other has done the same is quite a sight to see.
Daistallia 2104
13-01-2005, 17:41
From what I understand of biology and anthropology, having read up on this a bit, the "universal standard of beauty" is:
Body Shape: - a 3:2:3 bust:waist:hip ratio
Face Shape: - Symetrical left/right
eye shape: - No universal
Skin colour:- No universal
Lip shape: - No universal
Nose shape: - No universal

Buttocks should be somewhat full, indicating large enough fat tissue deposites to insure fertility.
Abdomen should be flat, indicating non-pregnant state.
Social status should be slightly, but not significantly, lower, providing no threat.
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 17:41
I'm gonna get into so much trouble for this, but:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Aerou/Aerou_11.jpg
Carpage
13-01-2005, 17:46
I was thinking of doing an RP story where a character is altered into looking like the ideal human woman when I realise I had no clue what that is. So I am asking for people description of the ideal woman (I like the ladies opinion to please, not just horny males :p ), please describe the features.

Deaf/mute nymphomaniac with big hooters that owns a liquor store ;)
John Browning
13-01-2005, 17:47
I'm gonna get into so much trouble for this, but:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Aerou/Aerou_11.jpg


So now we know what you've been doing with your left hand.
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 17:50
So now we know what you've been doing with your left hand.

Hahahahahahaha.

Right hand.
Soviet Thoric states
13-01-2005, 17:51
My ideal woman is a girl with long straight black hair, startling bright green eyey that are almond shape but can get very wide. Face has to be small and a litle oval with the smaller end at the chin, But she has to have an average chin lol. her body has to have long toned legs, and toned body with just a little bit to hold onto on her waste, not this anerexic stuff girls feel they have to be. Her bust just has to be big enough to cup your hands over it. her butt has to be toned and big, but when it gets to the point where shes knocking stuff over thats TOO big. shes got to be brown but not the fake bake looking brown, shes got to have that shes likes to be outdoors brown. The less make up the better. i like to be with girls not clowns. personality wise she has to be funny, witty, adventerouse, kind, stubourn, and love to travel and keep you on your toes. She has to have a smile that could warm a room. And lastly as one poet so eloquently put it, "I need a lady in the streets but a freak in the sheets" ;)
John Browning
13-01-2005, 17:51
Hahahahahahaha.

Right hand.

Right hand is for the mouse, and the left hand is for...
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 17:54
This message has been deleted by Sdaeriji.

Anyone else really want to know what that said? :D
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 17:55
Anyone else really want to know what that said?
"I can do it with both.... controlling a mouse that is"
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 17:55
Anyone else really want to know what that said? :D

It was about using other body parts to control the mouse....
Pencil Suckers
13-01-2005, 18:09
It was about using other body parts to control the mouse....
Hah! A tricky procedure at the best of times :gundge:
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 18:10
It was about using other body parts to control the mouse....


What? The pedal?
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 18:11
It was about using other body parts to control the mouse....

:eek: I see... :p
Aerou
13-01-2005, 18:42
Hmmm...

I think the ideal woman is Adriana Lima, but I guess thats just my opinion :).

Adriana Lima, yummmmmy (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Aerou/Adriana%20Lima/limaphoto00128.jpg)

More Adriana :) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Aerou/Adriana%20Lima/Adriana_Lima06.jpg)
Squealopia
13-01-2005, 19:06
...Who is that woman? Me like. :p

An acquaintance of mine, actually. Don't go stalking her now, though :P
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 19:08
I think the ideal woman is Adriana Lima, but I guess thats just my opinion :).Yep, your opinion. Too god damn anorexic, and the breasts are a bit too obvious. Even I think she's sexy, but I think it's really sad that such unhealthily skinny women with obvious "enhancements" are considered "ideal" these days.
Celesteria
13-01-2005, 19:14
I was thinking of doing an RP story where a character is altered into looking like the ideal human woman when I realise I had no clue what that is.

The first question is, what kind of an alteration is this. As we all know, there is no single "ideal" woman a mortal person could describe, but if this is coming to a RPG story and you are going to have other players there, the main thing is to make it ideal for the characters. You have to ask yourself does this alteration work as a curse/blessing/enchantment which makes the "altered" appear differently, for different people - or is it to be just a general appearance change?

Personality is the key item for someone to appear ideal "just for you". People like different things. I think one shouldn't overdo it, like forming a supermodel- or anorexic-dream. For me, there is no perfect shape for the eyes, or -body, but I like to look at people who have taken care of their health. This means, that I'm not attracted to very fat or very thin women. I don't care for body building either, so I don't like that in a woman either. I like to person to be fit (ideally with very little stomach, but still so that you don't have to feel only bones, when touching it). Bust size is not that important, although I tend to favour less huge ones. The key issue is how the lady carries herself: gracefully, with confidence, which for me means in a relaxed manner. My ideal woman enjoyes her body and respects herself. She is not afraid to smile - she doesn't have to shield herself with grim appearance. She is serious, when she has to, and otherwise she can spread her confidence with dashing smile (which is not measured by how white her teeth are).

Ideal partnership comes from mutual respect. If your plan is to mess with the heads of your players (supposing that you are about to gamemaster a scenario), you should interview them what their ideal women are and then make the alteration as much adjustable for those different ideals as possible. This leans much to the hope that the player of the altered character can play these sides of her personality through. If it's just a joke, a curse for the character, which he isn't meant to enjoy as a player - then this is pretty irrelevant, I guess.

Altogether, I suggest you seek natural beauty, not fake (in sense of surgical alterations as well as too far out posing in a picture).
Jester III
13-01-2005, 19:47
Link (http://www.vampress.net/bettie/fetish/bpbon39.jpg)
Johnistan
13-01-2005, 20:03
Nicole Kidman
Lascivious Maximus
13-01-2005, 20:49
Monica Bellucci, only because she is positively oozing with sex appeal... but since I really dont know her offscreen personality (interviews dont count) I cant say much more than that.

Yeah Sdaeriji, Ill put Aerou on this one too, she really is amazing. Of course I dont know her all that well either, but from what I do know Id be willing to post it.
Good looking, smart and a great personality. I think she may well be the biggest attention grabber in NS, find me one person who doesnt know her and think this.

Carmen Evans, a girl I used to be in love with way back in the day... she really was that kind of girl. I hate looking back at my mistakes sometimes.

Taryn Jones, another girl I loved and allowed to slip between the cracks... pretty amazing. I cant describe how she made this summer for me. Best Ive felt in about three years.
THE LOST PLANET
13-01-2005, 20:58
Funny, when I think of the ideal woman it's not her physical features that come to mind.

Surgery isn't gonna teach her to drive a three speed, column shift manual transmission for example.
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 21:05
Yep, your opinion. Too god damn anorexic, and the breasts are a bit too obvious. Even I think she's sexy, but I think it's really sad that such unhealthily skinny women with obvious "enhancements" are considered "ideal" these days.

For the record, this:

http://dc.estamosdentro.com:8080/ed/articulos/anorexic15.jpg

http://dc.estamosdentro.com:8080/ed/articulos/anorexic_model.jpg

is anorexia.

This:

http://www.bobbybs.net/images/adriana-lima.jpg

is not.
Peechland
13-01-2005, 21:18
Funny, when I think of the ideal woman it's not her physical features that come to mind.

Surgery isn't gonna teach her to drive a three speed, column shift manual transmission for example.


i can do that^^
THE LOST PLANET
13-01-2005, 21:33
i can do that^^If you can saddle a horse and own more than one bicycle that requires you change your shoes to ride let me know.

Those are a couple of the other things that are on my list.
Saetans Army
13-01-2005, 21:36
Hmmm...

I think the ideal woman is Adriana Lima, but I guess thats just my opinion .

Have you looked up Mayra veronica? She did a spread for Maxim, and it was absolutely amazing! That is my perfect woman.
Alomogordo
13-01-2005, 21:42
Submissive...must be submissive.
Dukuvney
13-01-2005, 21:47
Two words. Emmy Rossum. She was the girl in the new movie version of The Phantom of the Opera that played Kristine (SP?). I think she's probably the most beautiful girl I've seen
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 22:01
For the record, this:

http://dc.estamosdentro.com:8080/ed/articulos/anorexic15.jpg

http://dc.estamosdentro.com:8080/ed/articulos/anorexic_model.jpg

is anorexia.

This:

http://www.bobbybs.net/images/adriana-lima.jpg

is not.I suppose this:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL002.jpg
doesn't count either, then? Or this:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL038.jpg
Or this:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL109.jpg
And just look at that leg:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL269.jpg
More spindly legs:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL335.jpg
(FamousBabes.Com doesn't like linking, so you'll have to copy/paste)

She might not be able to pull off the skeleton impression as well as the two girls you linked, but she certainly looks unhealthy, and with many of her modeling pictures I just feel sick looking at her. Yes, Adriana Lima has actual leg muscles unlike the terminal cases, but I would really like a woman's legs and thighs to be thicker than my arm.
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 22:04
I suppose this:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL002.jpg
doesn't count either, then? Or this:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL038.jpg
Or this:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL109.jpg
And just look at that leg:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL269.jpg
More spindly legs:
famousbabes.com/pics118/adrianaL/adrianaL335.jpg
(FamousBabes.Com doesn't like linking, so you'll have to copy/paste)

She might not be able to pull off the skeleton impression as well as the two girls you linked, but she certainly looks unhealthy, and with many of her modeling pictures I just feel sick looking at her. Yes, Adriana Lima has actual leg muscles unlike the terminal cases, but I would really like a woman's legs and thighs to be thicker than my arm.

No, they don't count. Yes, she's thin. No, she's not anorexic. It's just that simple.
Alomogordo
13-01-2005, 22:06
Jennifer Garner is good in my book.
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 22:14
No, they don't count. Yes, she's thin. No, she's not anorexic. It's just that simple.For a definite diagnosis, all the following are required:

(a) Body weight is maintained at least 15% below that expected (either lost or never achieved), or Quetelet's body-mass index is 17.5 or less. Prepubertal patients may show failure to make the expected weight gain during the period of growth.
(b) The weight loss is self-induced by avoidance of "fattening foods" and one or more of the following: self-induced vomiting; self-induced purging; excessive exercise; use of appetite suppressants and/or diuretics.
(c) There is body-image distortion in the form of a specific psychopathology whereby a dread of fatness persists as an intrusive, overvalued idea and the patient imposes a low weight threshold on himself or herself.
(d) A widespread endocrine disorder involving the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis is manifest in women as amenorrhoea and in men as a loss of sexual interest and potency. (An apparent exception is the persistence of vaginal bleeds in anorexic women who are receiving replacement hormonal therapy, most commonly taken as a contraceptive pill.) There may also be elevated levels of growth hormone, raised levels of cortisol, changes in the peripheral metabolism of the thyroid hormone, and abnormalities of insulin secretion.
(e) If onset is prepubertal, the sequence of pubertal events is delayed or even arrested (growth ceases; in girls the breasts do not develop and there is a primary amenorrhoea; in boys the genitals remain juvenile). With recovery, puberty is often completed normally, but the menarche is late.
http://www.mentalhealth.com/icd/p22-et01.htmlAdriana Lima is 178cm tall, and I think you'll agree that (without the silly-cone implants) she weighs under 56kg, ie her Quetelet's BMI is under 17.5. The weight loss is obviously self-induced. As a model, I'm absolutely certain she has a dread of fatness. It's imposible to say anything about (d), and she might not qualify for (e) (if she's had a slightly more healthly-looking body in the past).

How is it so simple?
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 22:20
Adriana Lima is 178cm tall, and I think you'll agree that (without the silly-cone implants) she weighs under 56kg, ie her Quetelet's BMI is under 17.5. The weight loss is obviously self-induced. As a model, I'm absolutely certain she has a dread of fatness. It's imposible to say anything about (d), and she might not qualify for (e) (if she's had a slightly more healthly-looking body in the past).

How is it so simple?

You cannot prove a single one of those. Prove to me she's under 56 kg, prove to me she induces vomitting, prove to me she has a dread of fatness. You have absolutely no facts to work with; you're going completely off your own assumptions.
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 22:28
You cannot prove a single one of those. Prove to me she's under 56 kg, prove to me she induces vomitting, prove to me she has a dread of fatness. You have absolutely no facts to work with; you're going completely off your own assumptions.Ehh... So, would you say he has incredibly dense bones, to the point where NASA is showing a lot of interest in her? Perhaps she has a medical condition which makes her lose weight , even though she eats all the time? Do you truly believe that she wouldn't at all mind having an average build?

No, I can't say with absolute certainty that she weighs under 56kg, that the weight loss is self-induced (which does not necessarily have anything to do with vomiting, etc.), or that she's afraid of being fat. But, all things considered, those are by far likelier than the alternatives. Occam's Razor supports me on at least the first two (since she looks like she weighs maybe 50kg, and serious weight-loss inducing but otherwise bening medical conditions are quite rare indeed), and statistics back me up on all three.
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 22:33
Ehh... So, would you say he has incredibly dense bones, to the point where NASA is showing a lot of interest in her? Perhaps she has a medical condition which makes her lose weight , even though she eats all the time? Do you truly believe that she wouldn't at all mind having an average build?

No, I can't say with absolute certainty that she weighs under 56kg, that the weight loss is self-induced (which does not necessarily have anything to do with vomiting, etc.), or that she's afraid of being fat. But, all things considered, those are by far likelier than the alternatives. Occam's Razor supports me on at least the first two (since she looks like she weighs maybe 50kg, and serious weight-loss inducing but otherwise bening medical conditions are quite rare indeed), and statistics back me up on all three.

No, I would say that you're still working solely off of assumptions that clearly indicate your own personal preference in women.

Listen, this thread was nice and civil until you had to go off on Aerou for not liking the same build of women as you. Is there something wrong with you just saying what your ideal woman is, or are you only able to find satisfaction in attack other people's preferences?
Eutrusca
13-01-2005, 22:40
Have you looked up Mayra veronica? She did a spread for Maxim, and it was absolutely amazing! That is my perfect woman.
Damned close, I'd say! :D
Sdaeriji
13-01-2005, 22:43
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/9531/aish2.jpg

Aishwarya Rai.
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 22:46
No, I would say that you're still working solely off of assumptions that clearly indicate your own personal preference in women.

Listen, this thread was nice and civil until you had to go off on Aerou for not liking the same build of women as you. Is there something wrong with you just saying what your ideal woman is, or are you only able to find satisfaction in attack other people's preferences?Yes, I admit, part of my dislike for the Generally Accepted Model-Look these days spawns from my own preference for healthy-looking females. A much greater part of it comes from the fact that I hate the fact that society is pushing women to look unhealthily thin, and I hate myself for falling into it.

I also admit that my first response to Aerou could have been phrased better. There's nothing inherently wrong in thinking Adriana Lima is good looking, or even that she looks like the "ideal woman". I do not want to attack anyone's preferences. I would like to attack the fashion industry for making people think they've got to look like Adriana Lima or Kate Moss or even Christy Turlington to get a job modeling.

I would love it if our ideals were such that women were allowed to eat properly without having to always obsess about how they look. It would be marvellous if the women on the catwalks were shaped more like this:
famousbabes.com/pics118/katherine/katherine100.jpg
(She's unmodified too, AFAIK.)
But I also realize I'm powerless in these matters, and I should probably consider myself lucky that the women I'm more interested in looking at are the same girls who are more likely to think like I do and to not give a fuck about the most ridiculous norms of society.

My assumptions about the measurements and health of Adriana Lima have fuck-all to do with my personal preferences, however. They have a lot to do with a human beings ability to gauge weight from pictures and video when you know a person's height, with basic understanding of the human metabolism, and with watching interviews and documentaries with and about models and modeling.
Smoltzania
13-01-2005, 22:47
ok now that you seem to have gone thru physical and general personality

how about activities/hobbies etc
ex. sports, computer skills, video games, whatever.

for the record: i am a female who likes sports. more than any normal person should... watching them tho. the only one i do regularly is running.
You Forgot Poland
13-01-2005, 22:49
36-24-36?

Yeah. Only if she's 5'3".
Deleronix
13-01-2005, 23:04
pamela anderson,witha darker skin tone,

and for naughty people, go to secretceleb.com and look her up, or newgrounds.com

just copy and paste
Sir Peter the sage
13-01-2005, 23:10
I'm surprised that not a single person has mentioned her yet so I guess I will. We're looking for the closest to an ideal woman that everyone can agree on right? That means leave specific personal preferences aside if need be. I think we can all agree that Marilyn Monroe, even after all this time is still a symbol for the sexy American female, and she is still considered by many, including myself, to have been one of the most beautiful women to have ever lived. I heard somewhere that she wore a size 16 dress, if someone could verify that it would be nice, but it would seem to indicate that perhaps men don't truly want hyper-skinny ladies. So if you're looking for a basis for a woman that most would find "ideal" borrow from the original blonde bombshell. You can't really go wrong there.
Aerou
13-01-2005, 23:19
I'm surprised that not a single person has mentioned her yet so I guess I will. We're looking for the closest to an ideal woman that everyone can agree on right? That means leave specific personal preferences aside if need be. I think we can all agree that Marilyn Monroe, even after all this time is still a symbol for the sexy American female, and she is still considered by many, including myself, to have been one of the most beautiful women to have ever lived. I heard somewhere that she wore a size 16 dress, if someone could verify that it would be nice, but it would seem to indicate that perhaps men don't truly want hyper-skinny ladies. So if you're looking for a basis for a woman that most would find "ideal" borrow from the original blonde bombshell. You can't really go wrong there.

At one point she was.....but not throughout her entire career.
http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.htm
Sir Peter the sage
13-01-2005, 23:42
Thanks for dispelling that myth then. She still seems healthier looking than some of our 'super-models' and actresses today. Seriously, we need to give them some ice cream or something, give them a little shape that isn't put in there by a plastic surgeon. Also doesn't change the fact that she still is a sex icon and would be a fine answer for the initial question.
Upitatanium
13-01-2005, 23:47
Perfect woman:

Must be VERY Smart and good natured. Not shy. She can be a little fat, doesn't matter as long as it is not an extreme fat (or thin for that matter).

Depending on the size of her frame I could choose large or small breasts (small frame/small breasts, large frame/large breasts).

Nice flawless skin. Delicate hands. Great smile. Warm. Kind. Gotta have nice legs and ass. A nice <censored> wouldn't hurt either, especially if it is a good shape. The kind of shape you could hold in your hand and it would fit perfectly. Must be a cuddler.
Glinde Nessroe
14-01-2005, 00:12
My ideal woman...is a man lol.

Anyway, I reckon the ideal woman is what she can expect in her ideal man.
Letila
14-01-2005, 00:22
Body Shape: - Very wide hips, really big butt and thick thighs, thin waist and large breasts
Face Shape: - Heart shaped
Hair colo(u)r - Red or black
eye shape: - large, almond
Skin colo(u)r: - Very light (I really don't like tans at all, but being born with dark skin doesn't bother me for some reason)
Lip shape: - Very full
Nose shape: - Average

Personality-wise, they should be very left wing and the ability to throw a motolov cocktail is a must. :p

I've often wondered whether my preference for plumper than average women is morally exceptable, though, as it is unhealthy to weigh too much.

Submissive...must be submissive.

Sexist.
Marcados Corporation
14-01-2005, 01:22
where a character is altered into looking like the ideal human woman

I thought this line would of indicated that personality was irrelevent.

Please don't attack someone elses ideal woman, just posts your (although discussion on why is ok) ideal woman instead...you might be able to convince them that yours is better.


So far I have seen that it is really is a matter of personal taste, but several things do appear to be similar. Mainly the fact not many people find very very thin women attractive (thin from starvation & not from genetics).

I must say I have trouble with nose shape & lip shape....if anyone knows a good site that shows the difference please post a link.
CthulhuFhtagn
14-01-2005, 03:11
Body Shape: - Very wide hips, really big butt and thick thighs, thin waist and large breasts
Face Shape: - Heart shaped
Hair colo(u)r - Red or black
eye shape: - large, almond
Skin colo(u)r: - Very light (I really don't like tans at all, but being born with dark skin doesn't bother me for some reason)
Lip shape: - Very full
Nose shape: - Average

I'll be damned. I actually agree with Letila on something.
Letila
14-01-2005, 03:29
I'll be damned. I actually agree with Letila on something.

Right on!
Kanabia
14-01-2005, 03:31
An acquaintance of mine, actually. Don't go stalking her now, though :P

I think the distance makes it a little hard. (unfortunately :p)

Adriana Lima is 178cm tall, and I think you'll agree that (without the silly-cone implants) she weighs under 56kg, ie her Quetelet's BMI is under 17.5.

Wow. I was curious, so I did mine, and I got 18.4. That's bad, isn't it?
Festivals
14-01-2005, 03:54
this is an awful thread
Schiggidy
14-01-2005, 04:12
this is an awful thread

I can see how a eunuch like yourself might feel left out. :p
Stan Smackey
14-01-2005, 04:21
The ideal woman has:

A job
PMS medicine
Can cook and clean

and

Loves setting up poker night for the boys.

If she has all the above, who cares what she looks like? I can always schtup her sister!
Okiextremist
14-01-2005, 07:57
Here ya go:

From the perspective of a 41 year old guy.

HOT: http://www.celebstation.org/models/jane_mansfield/Jayne_Mansfield-40.jpg
Jayne Mansfield


NOT:http://www.rumela.com/albums/paris_hilton/paris_hilton07.sized.jpg
Paris Hilton
Davistania
14-01-2005, 07:59
I just want a nice girl that's not batshit insane.
Dave LXXII
14-01-2005, 08:19
36-24-36?

Yeah. Only if she's 5'3".

Baby got back! </Sir Mix-A-Lot>

My ideal woman changes everyday, so I guess I don't have one. I work with a lot of young hispanic women at my office, so I've developed a...fondness for them. Especially the curvy ones who always come to work in skirts & high heels. ;)
Delator
14-01-2005, 08:44
I just want a nice girl that's not batshit insane.

AMEN!!!
Autocraticama
14-01-2005, 08:50
Well..i've found my ideal woman in my fiance.....so i will try to describe her...

Take Marilyn Monroe.....

Make her have long, dark, curly hair and hazel eyes......then give her a fabulous singing voice....oh...and she is great in bed.....
Shlarg
14-01-2005, 08:59
Since the question revolved around physical attributes; I have a tendency to like heavy women during the winter and skinny women in the summer. This is probably the basic reason why Solomon had so many wives and concubines, all weather related.
Autocraticama
14-01-2005, 09:01
Two words. Emmy Rossum. She was the girl in the new movie version of The Phantom of the Opera that played Kristine (SP?). I think she's probably the most beautiful girl I've seen

omfg yes....
Greedy Pig
14-01-2005, 09:54
Face and character matters more than body.

As long as she's sweet looking, lovely, and likes to smile (It really shows in the face down through the years, if you smile alot). If she's fat.. Gym time. If she's skinny.. Pass along the BBQ.

Could have a damn friggin hot body.. But in 10-20 years time after she laid a egg or two, and the metabolisme starts slowing down.. some of those hot ravaging looking women won't look so hot anymore.
Female Ponytail
14-01-2005, 10:41
Most females look great with there hair in a Ponytail.
Marcados Corporation
14-01-2005, 13:17
I say again I'm not after personality, Got that already it's just appearance I need to get down. And for those who think this is sexist Please feel free to set up a thread asking what the idea guy looks like :rolleyes:
Funny Looking Islands
14-01-2005, 14:01
As long as they can cook,As long as they can cook.....
FairyTInkArisen
14-01-2005, 15:05
I still think it's me
Legless Pirates
14-01-2005, 15:07
We love you too Tink

:fluffle:
FairyTInkArisen
14-01-2005, 15:08
We love you too Tink

:fluffle:I don't blame you
Apocalypse corrupt
14-01-2005, 15:10
I still think it's mehello
Legless Pirates
14-01-2005, 15:11
I don't blame you
I blame Satan
FairyTInkArisen
14-01-2005, 15:12
hello
hello!!!!!!
CthulhuFhtagn
14-01-2005, 20:20
bump
Dogburg
14-01-2005, 20:22
The ideal woman is hot and puts out easily.
FairyTInkArisen
14-01-2005, 21:02
I think I found her: http://img38.exs.cx/img38/6026/queentinky8gh.jpg
Marcados Corporation
15-01-2005, 03:19
Please don't post casual conversations in this tread, just place a discription &/or discuss the Ideal woman.

Thankyou.
Alomogordo
15-01-2005, 03:24
Sexist.
'Twas a joke.
Nashabur
15-01-2005, 03:26
If you can saddle a horse and own more than one bicycle that requires you change your shoes to ride let me know.

Those are a couple of the other things that are on my list.LOL

Damn, I've got to see that list
Marabal
15-01-2005, 03:30
My girlfriend. Shes really hot, flawless and perfect.
Marabal
15-01-2005, 03:32
Please don't post casual conversations in this tread, just place a discription &/or discuss the Ideal woman.

Thankyou.



Hey wait, Technically It all depends on the individual. SOmeone may be considered hot by one person, and trash by another.
Marabal
15-01-2005, 03:33
But my girlfriend's still the hottest.
Hamanistan
15-01-2005, 03:36
Easy answer:

Someone who likes you for what you are and don't want you to change.
CthulhuFhtagn
15-01-2005, 03:36
My girlfriend. Shes really hot, flawless and perfect.
Prove it. Pictures will suffice.
New Granada
15-01-2005, 04:39
My money is on a girl from sao paolo named Laura that I partied with in London when I was there for new years.

I'd shoot people for her <3
Bogstonia
15-01-2005, 05:46
My money is on a girl from sao paolo named Laura that I partied with in London when I was there for new years.

I'd shoot people for her <3

Really?

That's pretty hot.

Where is san paolo anyways??
Marcados Corporation
16-01-2005, 04:07
^Bump^
Bill Mutz
16-01-2005, 04:43
I was thinking of doing an RP story where a character is altered into looking like the ideal human woman when I realise I had no clue what that is. So I am asking for people description of the ideal woman (I like the ladies opinion to please, not just horny males :p ), please describe the features.

where possible include an link to an image of the "ideal" part please.

ie:-

Body Shape: - Hourglass/ pear/ apple/ rectangular etc
Face Shape: - Heart/ Oval etc
eye shape: - Almond/ oval etc
Skin colour:- Creamy white/ light tan/ black etc
Lip shape: - ?
Nose shape: - ?

And so forth, Please leave out bust size as that is covered with body shape!

Yay! Can fags join?

Body shape: svelte and fit but with a moderate bust and somewhat prominent hips.
Face shape: oval
Eye shape: the Japanese look is attractive
Skin color: lightly tanned
Eye color: haunting green
Hair color: black
Lip shape: straight, firm, and kissable
Nose shape: prominent but not dominating, gently arcing