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Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:02
how do u drive???a car
imported_Blab
13-01-2005, 11:03
keep both hands on the wheel. :D
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:04
keep both hands on the wheel. :Dwhat are the gears
Neo-Anarchists
13-01-2005, 11:06
how do u drive???a car
If you're speeding down a highway trying to figure out how to control a car and you're posting to a forum for help, you're already dead.
:D
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:08
If you're speeding down a highway trying to figure out how to control a car and you're posting to a forum for help, you're already dead.
:Dwhat are the gears
Neo-Anarchists
13-01-2005, 11:11
what are the gears
Sorry, I have no idea.
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:12
Sorry, I have no idea.dont u drive????
Neo-Anarchists
13-01-2005, 11:16
dont u drive????
No.
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:22
dont u drive????

I do. What exactly is it you want to know about the gears? Individual cars are different.
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:23
I do. What exactly is it you want to know about the gears? Individual cars are different.just the gears
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:25
just the gears

That's fairly ambiguous, and I can't help but feel as though you're pulling my leg. :p Anyway, the gears of a standard car are usually 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Sometimes a sixth. Does that help?
Cannot think of a name
13-01-2005, 11:26
Whatever you do, just do me this favor-

When you see the turn signal flashing on a vintage VW Bus it does not mean, "Hurry up, he's trying to get in front of us!!!" I do need to change lanes every now and then, you know....
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:31
when do u change the gears????????
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:35
That's fairly ambiguous, and I can't help but feel as though you're pulling my leg. :p Anyway, the gears of a standard car are usually 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Sometimes a sixth. Does that help?have u meet kyle the singer before?????????
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:36
when do u change the gears????????

Ahhhh... Now I see. You change gears when the engine in sufficiently revved. You will know this by the sound it makes. There is also a dial on the dashboard.
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:37
have u meet kyle the singer before?????????

I don't believe so, no. Should I have?
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 11:37
when do u change the gears????????
When you are going too fast or too slow for the gear you are in. Personally I am driving an automatic at the moment so I let it sort that out itself.
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 11:37
Ahhhh... Now I see. You change gears when the engine in sufficiently revved. You will know this by the sound it makes. There is also a dial on the dashboard.do u change the gear one by one??????????
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:38
When you are going too fast or too slow for the gear you are in. Personally I am driving an automatic at the moment so I let it sort that out itself.

:D Ditto.
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 11:40
:D Ditto.
:D used to think they weren't much good but now I ended up with one its nice to be so lazy! Specially in traffic jams :)
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:40
do u change the gear one by one??????????

<Sarcasm> Yes, you change them all at the same time.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING???? :headbang:

One by one is probably more desirable. :p
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 11:41
do u change the gear one by one?[...]Have you got parents or relatives with a drivers license that you could ask these things from? Because if we're going to have to teach you how to drive a car through an online forum, we'd better get paid for it.

How Cars Work (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car.htm)
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:41
:D used to think they weren't much good but now I ended up with one its nice to be so lazy! Specially in traffic jams :)

Indeed. :) Jags usually only come in automatic. :p
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 11:41
Although simoetimes you might jump gears when changing down at a junction, like 4th to 2nd or 3rd to 1st.
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 11:42
Have you got parents or relatives with a drivers license that you could ask these things from? Because if we're going to have to teach you how to drive a car through an online forum, we'd better get paid for it.

How Cars Work (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car.htm)
Now there's a scary idea, someone learning to drive from us lot over the internet :eek:
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 11:44
Now there's a scary idea, someone learning to drive from us lot over the internet :eek:Based on Ac's writing, I wouldn't want to be around him/her when he's driving a car, no matter who's taught him/her. Although it's quite likely s/he's too young to reach the pedals anyway, nevermind gaining access to an actual, functioning car by legal means.
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 11:46
Indeed. :) Jags usually only come in automatic. :p
A really old SAAB is what I got :D


Based on Ac's writing, I wouldn't want to be around him/her when he's driving a car, no matter who's taught him/her. Although it's quite likely s/he's too young to reach the pedals anyway, nevermind gaining access to an actual, functioning car by legal means.

I believe he's in Birmingham, UK if that helps!
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:54
A really old SAAB is what I got :D




I believe he's in Birmingham, UK if that helps!

Hey, I never said it was new. :D Older cars are better, in my opinion.
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 11:56
Although simoetimes you might jump gears when changing down at a junction, like 4th to 2nd or 3rd to 1st.

That's very true.
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 12:00
Hey, I never said it was new. :D Older cars are better, in my opinion.
Certainly cheaper to get :cool:
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 12:02
Certainly cheaper to get :cool:
:) Better built too, in many cases.
Helennia
13-01-2005, 12:08
Generally changing up is one by one until the engine starts to make a low sputtering groan, then you've gone too high ... and if the engine is making a fast vroom-grrrr noise, then you're too low, and you need to change up.
Changing down gears: best to change down one by one, unless you need to stop fast in which case you can jump one gear (you can jump more, but I wouldn't like to see your engine ...) You don't need to be in first gear to stop! You can stop in second, provided that your clutch is in.
Oh, and don't EVER change from fifth to second on the motorway. I speak from personal experience (an accident! really!), a rather grumpy over-revved motor, a terrified mother, and overheating. *hides* Although I was on my L's at the time.
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 12:08
:) Better built too, in many cases.
Thats true. My SAAB is ancient and still going strong. Built like a tank too, but that's Scandinavian cars for you :)
Helennia
13-01-2005, 12:10
Thats true. My SAAB is ancient and still going strong. Built like a tank too, but that's Scandinavian cars for you :)I'd like to drive a tank. I'd scoop up all the annoying 4WDs on the roads and slam them out of the way of decent, discerning drivers with safe cars. :D
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 12:13
Generally changing up is one by one until the engine starts to make a low sputtering groan, then you've gone too high ... and if the engine is making a fast vroom-grrrr noise, then you're too low, and you need to change up.
Changing down gears: best to change down one by one, unless you need to stop fast in which case you can jump one gear (you can jump more, but I wouldn't like to see your engine ...) You don't need to be in first gear to stop! You can stop in second, provided that your clutch is in.
Oh, and don't EVER change from fifth to second on the motorway. I speak from personal experience (an accident! really!), a rather grumpy over-revved motor, a terrified mother, and overheating. *hides* Although I was on my L's at the time.

I can relate to that. Heed those words, kids!

Thats true. My SAAB is ancient and still going strong. Built like a tank too, but that's Scandinavian cars for you

Exactly. God save the poor fool who runs into old, well built cars in light-weight plastic things. :p
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 12:15
I'd like to drive a tank. I'd scoop up all the annoying 4WDs on the roads and slam them out of the way of decent, discerning drivers with safe cars. :D

I saw a documentary about a man in New Zealand who did drive a tank around. Not on the roads though, it tended to tear them up. :D
Helennia
13-01-2005, 12:20
Do you have the number of his dealership? :p
The downside is that a tank would be a little hard to park at work :(
Then again, I could park anywhere I liked ... even on top of other cars!
And this "parking restrictions" nonsense by centre management? I could just drive over their desks, muahahaha!
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 12:24
I saw a documentary about a man in New Zealand who did drive a tank around. Not on the roads though, it tended to tear them up. :Dthe man from the terminator i cant spell his name owns a tank too.
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 12:31
Do you have the number of his dealership? :p
The downside is that a tank would be a little hard to park at work :(
Then again, I could park anywhere I liked ... even on top of other cars!
And this "parking restrictions" nonsense by centre management? I could just drive over their desks, muahahaha!

That reminds me of something. I'm not sure if it actually happened, but: An elderly man driving a Roller is about to park his car when a young hoon in a convertable steals his space. He than calls out "You have to be young and quick to that, pops." At which the driver of the Roller proceeds to drive over the top of the young mans car. He then got out and said "You have to be old and rich to that, son!"
Monkeypimp
13-01-2005, 12:32
Tanks are all good to drive around in, but its hard to find a good dealership.
Chicken pi
13-01-2005, 12:35
Tanks are all good to drive around in, but its hard to find a good dealership.

And I bet spare parts cost a ton...
Erehwon Forest
13-01-2005, 12:43
the man from the terminator i cant spell his name owns a tank too.The Governator in fact owns the M-47 Patton MBT he used to be a crew member of back in Austria. They had to excavate the tank, since it'd been dug into the ground since his army times, and then it was shipped into the states. That's not something just anyone can pull off.

Speaking of cars and tanks (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1284937/posts)...
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 13:17
I think arnies cool
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 13:31
So Apocalypse why are you asking us this then?
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 13:32
when do u change the gears????????

When the RPM dial goes into the red, its time to shift up.

When you slow down and the engine begins to sound funny, its time to shift down.
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 13:36
So Apocalypse why are you asking us this then?
non of your bee's wax
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 13:38
non of your bee's wax
In that case I don't think we should tell you any more then...
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 13:38
In that case I don't think we should tell you any more then...ok
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 13:40
non of your bee's wax

Oh come on, you could at least come up with a convincing lie, like "I have to beat my best friends time in this racing game and he said i can only use manual"
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 13:43
Oh come on, you could at least come up with a convincing lie, like "I have to beat my best friends time in this racing game and he said i can only use manual"Do u like need for speed 2
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 13:44
In that case I don't think we should tell you any more then...

No matter how much we tell him/her, there's no way he/she could drive a manual without practical instruction. Not happening.
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 13:45
Do u like need for speed 2

I've had NFSII SE for ages. :p
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 13:48
No matter how much we tell him/her, there's no way he/she could drive a manual without practical instruction. Not happening.
True but it seemed a bit rude to ask all of us for information and not say why when asked.
Monkeypimp
13-01-2005, 13:50
if he's trying to take his parents car for a joyride, he'll stall and bunnyhop for 10 minutes then get sick of it and bail. No matter how much we tell him on here...
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 13:51
Lol
Apocalypse corrupt
13-01-2005, 14:07
if he's trying to take his parents car for a joyride, he'll stall and bunnyhop for 10 minutes then get sick of it and bail. No matter how much we tell him on here...did you hear about the boy who crashed his dads car (you know what happened next) a BMW auto in birmingham
Mutant Dogs 2
13-01-2005, 14:10
6"3 men with red hair should be shot down. :sniper:
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 14:11
did you hear about the boy who crashed his dads car (you know what next) a BNW auto in birmingham
What's a BNW?
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 14:17
True but it seemed a bit rude to ask all of us for information and not say why when asked.

Good point. AC, what's the deal?
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 14:23
What's a BNW?
Brand New Woman
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 14:24
When the RPM dial goes into the red, its time to shift up.

When you slow down and the engine begins to sound funny, its time to shift down.


OMg. Your RPM dials into red. Your going what 10 miles a galleon with that! Though you'll probably be driving madly fast.

Change your RPM around 3k, or 3.5k. Depends on how much your car can rev. If possible probably rev around half before red.
Helennia
13-01-2005, 14:24
Good point. AC, what's the deal?
Hey, I'd like to know too - my tip saved you two hours of being yelled at...
Basically you can't drive a manual without practical instruction - it's bad for the car, for other people, and for you when someone crashes into your car because you stalled on the freeway. My advice is to get someone who has a manual (an old one :p) to take you for a few lessons with L-plates attached.
And I change up gear at 3 revs, getting towards 3.5 if I'm going uphill. Mostly I listen to the engine noise.
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 14:40
OMg. Your RPM dials into red. Your going what 10 miles a galleon with that! Though you'll probably be driving madly fast.

Change your RPM around 3k, or 3.5k. Depends on how much your car can rev. If possible probably rev around half before red.

Hey, he's probably not looking to drive sensibly, so I gave him the easiest way. (I have an auto learners permit, but I uh...tested out a manual once)
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 14:44
I'm guessing your trying to drive manual right?

I'll teach you. But I won't bear any consequences if your face ends up in the obituary section of the newspaper tomorrow. Make sure you try it in a empty parking lot.. Or somewhere safe that you can jam the breaks.. Make sure you have a friend who CAN drive next to you.


First.. You press the clutch.. Press it down to full.

Then you shift in the gear to Gear 1. While still pressing the clutch.. You lift it Slloooooooowwwllllyyyyy.. Don't release it immidiately or the engine would die. And you'll get a nice shock.

Make sure you lift the clutch to about 2/3's.. And the car would start to move abit. Then you press a little bit of the accelerator to move faster. and slowly take your feet off the clutch (This is the balancing part that everybody hates).


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To break (The important Part).

Press your Clutch down to full then hit the breaks.. So that the engine won't die. If you don't press the clutch. Your engine would die. (Quite fun, especially shock a friend who is drinking).
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There have fun. Don't drive too fast. And always test drive in a place you wouldn't kill someone. Make sure your friend who knows how to drive is in the car with you. So that he can pull your handbreak while you drift into the ditch. :D
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 14:46
Hey, he's probably not looking to drive sensibly, so I gave him the easiest way. (I have an auto learners permit, but I uh...tested out a manual once)

Oh okay. I got a Manual licence. I can drive Manual and Auto :D. And I drive Manual everyday to uni. I drive one of those Holden (Opel) Frontera's.
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 14:48
Oh okay. I got a Manual licence. I can drive Manual and Auto :D. And I drive Manual everyday to uni. I drive one of those Holden (Opel) Frontera's.

I would have gotten a manual permit, but I don't have a manual car to practice on (and im not buying one when theres a perfectly good auto that's all mine), so not much point really. :p
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 14:56
In the UK we don't have seperate manual and automatic licences anymore. It's a full manual one or nothing.
Helennia
13-01-2005, 14:58
I would have gotten a manual permit, but I don't have a manual car to practice on (and im not buying one when theres a perfectly good auto that's all mine), so not much point really. :p
My family has nothing but manuals, so I had to learn manual. It's actually not that hard, and it's a little bit of a power rush actually ...
"You want to change up gear? Huh? Well I'm not changing, you stupid manual! Take that!"
Autos take the power rush out of driving :p
Legless Pirates
13-01-2005, 14:59
As it should be
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 15:00
In the UK we don't have seperate manual and automatic licences anymore. It's a full manual one or nothing.

Thats good in a way. Although most people would end up driving auto (Especially in cities and traffic). But I think it's a better way, in case it's an emergency and you need to drive a manual.

But... Seeing some of my friends who taken a manual and never driven one for many years.. They tend to forget how to drive one after a while. :p
Helennia
13-01-2005, 15:01
In the UK we don't have seperate manual and automatic licences anymore. It's a full manual one or nothing.I think that's an excellent system. It makes sure that everyone is capable of driving a manual in the case of an emergency, and it also reduces the number of automatic cars. I just don't like autos ... *shrugs* Can't explain it, really.
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 15:02
My family has nothing but manuals, so I had to learn manual. It's actually not that hard, and it's a little bit of a power rush actually ...
"You want to change up gear? Huh? Well I'm not changing, you stupid manual! Take that!"
Autos take the power rush out of driving :p

Not unless you drive like some of my friends! They Down-gear their auto cars. :p... Thats why they have to change the gear-oil once every 3-5 months. Crazy!
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 15:02
My family has nothing but manuals, so I had to learn manual. It's actually not that hard, and it's a little bit of a power rush actually ...
"You want to change up gear? Huh? Well I'm not changing, you stupid manual! Take that!"
Autos take the power rush out of driving :p

Yeah, i'd prefer the manual. It would be more fun.

In the UK we don't have seperate manual and automatic licences anymore. It's a full manual one or nothing.

Actually, it's the same here. You cant drive a manual while on your Learner or Probationary plates if you only have an auto permit, but once you get your full licence, you can drive either. Go figure.
Helennia
13-01-2005, 15:04
Not unless you drive like some of my friends! They Down-gear their auto cars. :p... Thats why they have to change the gear-oil once every 3-5 months. Crazy!
I have lots of friends who drive autos - love the people, can't stand the cars :p *shakes head*
My main problem with autos is that you can't change the gear when you know the engine noise sounds wrong. And they tend to change late and over-rev. And when you need to change down gear to go up a hill, you have to shove it into overdrive.
Manual. Gold all the way.
Monkeypimp
13-01-2005, 15:05
I drive a manual for work. I drove my uncles auto once and it was wierd stabing at space with my left foot before remembering it was an auto.
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 15:05
Yeah, i'd prefer the manual. It would be more fun.



Actually, it's the same here. You cant drive a manual while on your Learner or Probationary plates if you only have an auto permit, but once you get your full licence, you can drive either. Go figure.

I didn't think it mattered for learners, only provisional licenses.
Helennia
13-01-2005, 15:08
Actually, it's the same here. You cant drive a manual while on your Learner or Probationary plates if you only have an auto permit, but once you get your full licence, you can drive either. Go figure.
Australia has some odd laws. People who only learnt to drive on an auto should have to shove the L-plates back on for at least a month if they're switching to manual. It's a little dangerous to have a driver unfamiliar with the controls of the car, and the gears are pretty important - there could be a fast-track provisional licence system for drivers switching from autos to manuals.
Kanabia
13-01-2005, 15:10
I didn't think it mattered for learners, only provisional licenses.

Actually...you're right. My bad :)

Australia has some odd laws. People who only learnt to drive on an auto should have to shove the L-plates back on for at least a month if they're switching to manual. It's a little dangerous to have a driver unfamiliar with the controls of the car, and the gears are pretty important - there could be a fast-track provisional licence system for drivers switching from autos to manuals.

I agree, definitely.
Snowblinded
13-01-2005, 15:12
ok

This person makes me weep for mankind.
Serendipity Prime
13-01-2005, 15:15
Oh okay. I got a Manual licence. I can drive Manual and Auto :D. And I drive Manual everyday to uni. I drive one of those Holden (Opel) Frontera's.

You need seperate permits for manuals and automatics? Hmmm, here in NY you can learn and drive either you want- and take your road test on either.

I've driven automatics for years, have my manual Jeep and don't think I'll ever go back. :)
Nevareion
13-01-2005, 15:23
Thats good in a way. Although most people would end up driving auto (Especially in cities and traffic). But I think it's a better way, in case it's an emergency and you need to drive a manual.

But... Seeing some of my friends who taken a manual and never driven one for many years.. They tend to forget how to drive one after a while. :p
Most drivers in the UK have manuals, they are prefered here. People think they are in more control. Not true really of course...
Nova Terra Australis
13-01-2005, 15:33
Actually...you're right. My bad :)



I agree, definitely.

Thank goodness, I'm not breaking the law. :D

And I, also, agree.
Greedy Pig
13-01-2005, 15:43
Most drivers in the UK have manuals, they are prefered here. People think they are in more control. Not true really of course...

Thats right.

The only way I can see Manual having more control, is the instant pickup or the shifting of gears when needed.

But Auto, you have both hands on the wheel.
Serendipity Prime
13-01-2005, 16:55
Manual you should have both hands on the wheel too- except for the second it takes you to shift. Though, honestly- I usually only drive with one hand, no matter what I'm driving.

Personally I like manual better because of the being able to choose the gears, you can end up with much more power going up hills, make it easier on your breaks going down- and being able to choose exactly when to shift. (Autos sometimes linger too long in their gears- prob transmission problems that nobody seems to want to deal with.)
Helennia
14-01-2005, 10:58
I also once thought that people in autos were safer drivers because they would have both hands on the wheel ... until the day I was in the car with a member of my netball team and she answered the phone with one hand while searching in her bag for her address book with the other. At least manual drivers know they need two hands, so they tend to keep at least one on the wheel.
Greedy Pig
14-01-2005, 12:58
Manual cars.. You can do burnouts!! Yay. Utterly destroy your expensive tires.
Nevareion
14-01-2005, 13:01
Manual you should have both hands on the wheel too- except for the second it takes you to shift. Though, honestly- I usually only drive with one hand, no matter what I'm driving.

Personally I like manual better because of the being able to choose the gears, you can end up with much more power going up hills, make it easier on your breaks going down- and being able to choose exactly when to shift. (Autos sometimes linger too long in their gears- prob transmission problems that nobody seems to want to deal with.)
Certainly true with an older/badly designed auto but most modern ones are probably as good as us in most situations. It is really only off-road or high performance where manual would have the edge. Don't get me wrong I do think that manual is more satisfying to drive but what I realised from ending up with an auto is that it is a matter of taste rather than actual difference.
Findecano Calaelen
14-01-2005, 13:19
how do u drive???a car
fast and badly :D
Findecano Calaelen
14-01-2005, 13:27
if he's trying to take his parents car for a joyride, he'll stall and bunnyhop for 10 minutes then get sick of it and bail. No matter how much we tell him on here...
Funny thing is when I learnt manual I didnt do one bunnyhop, I dont even know how to if I wanted to, I think my clutch was very forgiving
Nevareion
14-01-2005, 13:31
Funny thing is when I learnt manual I didnt do one bunnyhop, I dont even know how to if I wanted to, I think my clutch was very forgiving
Didn't when I learnt, did when I switched from old cars to a very new one. The clutch was soooooo much more sensitive it took me a while to stop dropping it.

It was a very embarrasing week.
Findecano Calaelen
14-01-2005, 13:44
Didn't when I learnt, did when I switched from old cars to a very new one. The clutch was soooooo much more sensitive it took me a while to stop dropping it.

It was a very embarrasing week.
Dropping it is fun..... yet expencive