NationStates Jolt Archive

I'm just 1dering how many americans there r on Nation states. :)

Anyone who is so lazy that they cannot be bothered to type out a few simple words is bad in my book.

And I'm American, by the way.

Yes, but God, avoid AIM speak, please!

I R T3h 4m3r1c4n

I'll try write properly from now on (i've been doing to much texting)

OMGWTFROFLEOMGTEHPWNZORUVD00/\/\!
Seriously, I dont mind l33t. I just hate it when people consider numbers to be subsitutes for actual sylables. If you cant take the time to type out TWO extra letters, then you should be sterilized right away.
But thats just me.

Yes, blessed but ashamed American I am...

I am an American and am proud of it

Nope, Australian - and proud of it.

I am American, but I don't get too riled up over nationality.

I'm an American. :D

I'm British.

God Save the Queen!

I'm British.

God Save the Queen!

I hope he doesn't waste too much time on her.

I R T3h 4m3r1c4n

Yes res, U R T3h 4m3r1c4nm. :rolleyes:

No I'm not.

Yes, blessed but ashamed American I am...

And how could you be ashamed? You're not the President...

No. No I'm not.

I am Irish :)

Anyone who is so lazy that they cannot be bothered to type out a few simple words is bad in my book.

And probably American. Like me.

I'm just 1dering how many americans there r on Nation states. :)
1.) Yes I am.
2.) Learn how to type, asshat.

I R not American, and I dnt like Talking in Txt speak. Please speak in normal tone.

No. I'm not.

Rule Britannia!
Britannia rules the babes!
Britain, never really ever, abolished slaaaves...

Oh. Um. I keep forgetting what 'secret' means.

I'm an American, and quite proud of it.

American by birth, military by choice, Southern by the grace of God. :D

i take it you mean people from the USA, and not people from the whole of America?

I'm just 1dering how many americans there r on Nation states. :)
From your spelling I assume you are one of my countrymen.

i take it you mean people from the USA, and not people from the whole of America?

The whole of America as in North America, South America, or both of them combined? Obviously, he means South America.

American by birth, military by choice, Southern by the grace of God. :D

Interesting. I can say the same thing, except that my father was Korean, and I was born in North Carolina.

The whole of America as in North America, South America, or both of them combined? Obviously, he means South America.
well, all of america would be north and south

I'am Irish and proud of it.

well, all of america would be north and south

Well I think we all know what he's talking about. SOUTH AMERICA! :mad:

I'm not from North or South America, though, so it's all good.

Irish over here *waves*

This can't be a perfectly accurate poll... since not EVERYone will vote.

Oh, well. I'm American.

Glad to be American... Blessed to be married to a Croatian with dual citizenship.

I'm an American, and quite proud of it.
i dunno how thats possible

I am not american. I'm a finn, and damn proud of it.

Half-Swedish, half-Estonian, dual citizenship. Though I really, really can't speak Estonian. At all.

can we stop talking about our nationalities and start talking about why we are proud or not proud of our country... this is way too shallow

can we stop talking about our nationalities and start talking about why we are proud or not proud of our country... this is way too shallow


BAD IDEA

awesome

I am American, but I don't get too riled up over nationality.

Whoah, you people still exist?

Much, much love.

I'm sure the poster meant people from the United States and not everyone from two continents.

1) He didn't ask "Hey, who here is from the Western Hemisphere"?

2) I've never seen anyone here ever bash "United Statesians". No, everyone bashes AMERICANS! ;)

I'm British.

God Save the Queen!

I'm British,

And embarrassed by the monarchy more and more every day, we should remove this out dated method for selecting a head of state.

I'm half brummie, half midlands, and half Yorkshireman. But if you don't balive in devoloution, I'm English. And hating the Monocy to.

Half-Swedish, half-Estonian, dual citizenship. Though I really, really can't speak Estonian. At all. Weddings are "pulma" and bicycle is "jalkaratas". That should help you... or not.

Anyone put in a good word for me with Prince Adam II or Prince Alois?
I'd really like to add a Liechtenstein passport to my collection...

I am an american. Yippee-Skippy

I am a citizen of the upcoming American Empire. Watch out world, Imperialism is back, and in a HUGE way. After we're rid of all those nasty brown terr'rissssss :mp5: you're all next (that means you China, and don't think we forgot about you EU!)

PAX AMERICANA!!!!!1ONE

Seriously though. I am an American, though that isn't something I can say that I'm as proud of as I used to be.

I am an american. Yippee-Skippy
American, are we???

Well, well, well....
So then, how over-weight are you at the current moment, and when's that face lift appoitment???
Have you found those WMD's yet? OH YEAH!!! I forgot...you went for the oil!
Another thing i would like to bring up, is VIETNAM :mp5: :sniper:
Wernt you a DEFEATED, BEATEN, LOSING, INIALATED, BLOWEN UP, D-E-F-E-A-T-E-D ARMY?
Oh, by the way...if you reply, heres our main language differences:

Lift-Elevator
Being Gay-Normal
Presedent-Fu£$(ng Wan$%r

100% Canadian and proud to say so! :)

My father was from the US, Montana actually - but he now has his citizenship here too. I do still have a lot of relatives in the US, but then, I sort of have relatives everywhere! haha!

Yep, I'm American.

This can't be a perfectly accurate poll... since not EVERYone will vote.

Oh, well. I'm American.
You know, as opposed to all those other accurate polls we have on NS ;)

American, are we???

Well, well, well....
So then, how over-weight are you at the current moment, and when's that face lift appoitment???
Have you found those WMD's yet? OH YEAH!!! I forgot...you went for the oil!
Another thing i would like to bring up, is VIETNAM :mp5: :sniper:
Wernt you a DEFEATED, BEATEN, LOSING, INIALATED, BLOWEN UP, D-E-F-E-A-T-E-D ARMY?
Oh, by the way...if you reply, heres our main language differences:

Lift-Elevator
Being Gay-Normal
Presedent-Fu£$(ng Wan$%r
And people wonder why the British have a bad name. Almost as bad as St PArky.

American, are we???

Well, well, well....
So then, how over-weight are you at the current moment, and when's that face lift appoitment???
Have you found those WMD's yet? OH YEAH!!! I forgot...you went for the oil!
Another thing i would like to bring up, is VIETNAM :mp5: :sniper:
Wernt you a DEFEATED, BEATEN, LOSING, INIALATED, BLOWEN UP, D-E-F-E-A-T-E-D ARMY?
Oh, by the way...if you reply, heres our main language differences:

Lift-Elevator
Being Gay-Normal
Presedent-Fu£$(ng Wan$%r
I'd rather be in a country where people can choose to be overweight than in a place where they have to choose between eating grass or rocks.

I'd rather live in a country so abundant that no one worries about housing or food, but about what they look like.

I'd rather live in a country that can do what's morally right than listen to what is politically correct.

I'd rather live in a country where the citizens recognize inialated isn't even remotely close to the world annihilate.

But most of all, I'd rather live in a country where I don't have to put up with trolls on you on a daily basis.

American, are we???

Well, well, well....
So then, how over-weight are you at the current moment, and when's that face lift appoitment???
Have you found those WMD's yet? OH YEAH!!! I forgot...you went for the oil!
Another thing i would like to bring up, is VIETNAM :mp5: :sniper:
Wernt you a DEFEATED, BEATEN, LOSING, INIALATED, BLOWEN UP, D-E-F-E-A-T-E-D ARMY?
Oh, by the way...if you reply, heres our main language differences:

Lift-Elevator
Being Gay-Normal
Presedent-Fu£$(ng Wan$%r

I'm 5' 10" and I weight 175 pounds. I am 44 years old, and I can run 3 miles in 18 minutes flat.

And as for losing Vietnam, we left because the public didn't want to stomach killing people. Wars are won by people who are not only willing to die, but more than willing to kill as many people as it takes.

As you may have noticed by the recent election, we seem to have lost all consideration of how many people we kill.

Im British too

God Save the Queen and long may she reign

Dual citizen, German-Belgian.

I'm Canadian... so am I American or no?

Any dutchies around???? I'm Dutch BTW....

edit: yeah, it sucks here, so if you wanna visit, DON'T!!!!

Screw your national borders, I am human.

I am American. I am ashamed to be part of the human race.

No need to be ashamed, it is not your fault. Some things are beyond your control.

Nationality means nothing at all. There good and bad in all countries. Though having said that...the US does seem to have a higher than average amount of arrogant jerks.

Damn proud to be an American.

I'm American. but I'm going to start my own country...

I'm Canadian, Eh! ;)

No. I'm from Poland and I'm also really proud of it! ;)

Is there anyone else from PL? (Jest ktos jeszcze z Polski?)

No. I'm from Poland and I'm really proud of it!

Is there anyone else from PL? (Jest ktos jeszcze z Polski?) I'm not Polish but I'm also half Czech. (Ja mluvin cesky! :cool: )

I'm not Polish but I'm also half Czech. (Ja mluvin cesky! :cool: )

It's nice there are some people from other slavic coutries! :)

(Numenoras: Tesi me, ze vas poznavam ;) )

I'm American and apathetic about it.

I'm American and I like pie.

Mmmm....pie.....

I R T3h 4m3r1c4n

i 2 r t3h 4m3r1c4n, l3t5 h0p3 t4ht d035 n0t m4k3 m3 t3h 3v1l w4rm0ng3r!!!!!!!!111111111oneoneone!!!!!!!!1

I'm American. but I'm going to start my own country...

Ill join you with my enlightened ideas! Like the name! We could call it, "The shining happy peoples democratic Republic of Jokobee!"

I'm American, and sometimes proud of it, sometimes not.
Also, may God save everyone, not just some useless woman who sits in a chair all day.

I'm not Polish but I'm also half Czech. (Ja mluvin cesky! :cool: )

Ja som Slovensky! (Živobytie v NewYorku...)

Lets just say I have a couple of citizenships. :confused:

Never say R U agian! Do you hear me? :mad:

Nationality means nothing at all. There good and bad in all countries. Though having said that...the US does seem to have a higher than average amount of arrogant jerks.

Oh, the irony! :rolleyes:

Oh, the irony! :rolleyes:
very good :D

Yes, but God, avoid AIM speak, please!

As far as I'm concerned, you should use proper grammar on AIM as well.

Nope, i'm Canadian

I'm Canadian... so am I American or no?

That's a good question! And what should the people from the States call themselves? Like, say, I'm from Washington right now so should I call myself Washingtonian?

Then again, we're all from earth and then the solar system and then the rest of the bloody universe so why don't we call ourselves universians.

Ya ya, I think it really doesn't matter where you're from its who you are as a person. Nationalism is soooooo overrated. ;)

Nope, I'm Dutch and proud of it!

God bless ...
errr...
whatever there is to bless in that little swamp of ours...

Our dikes!
At least He should bless our dikes!
I mean both lesbians and those things near the sea and rivers.

Swedish (that also is the #1 place to live in if you would look at Times or the UN's list over countrys where its best to live, US is about #25 or something.. I donno! I dont live there!)

Facts about Sweden:

We have a King that has come from france in the 1700th century (about the time when they helped the US to beat the english) and a Queen (that is from a german family but lived in brazil when the king found her) But none of them has any power. But they can still not be charge with any fellony.. Wee!

We are the makers of the REAL meatball!

We have two princess, both of them are HOT! :p

There are more swedish familys that moved to the US bck in the 1900th century then there are sweds in sweden...

Its illegal to think(!) about building a nuklear powerplant even thou we have 5 or so of them.

We made the sthealt tec. that is used on the american F117 and B2 bomber.. But we bade it to build the worlds only stealt boat (SWEET)

George W Bush once said "Sweden doesn't have an army?!" In fact: The US navy has rented the swedish sub Gotland to train on as for the fact that even thou Gotland is a disel sub and that is only a third the size of a normal US sub; the US navy has never won a Wargame agienst the Gotland!

There is tones more but i think I'll pass..

Nope, I'm Dutch and proud of it!

God bless ...
errr...
whatever there is to bless in that little swamp of ours...

Our dikes!
At least He should bless our dikes!
I mean both lesbians and those things near the sea and rivers.
dude vain, vain, but funny. :D

Hello everyone. This marks my first post.

I am English.

Hello everyone. This marks my first post.

I am English.

Me too.

I'M spanish/british

and proud of it!

I'm french (after being human of course). I don't care at all. Just a fucking useless word on a fucking useless paper.

I am greek

I'm British and dam proud of it

(even if what people where to fancy dress parties is considered national news)

God save Fish and Chips (o and Queenie)

Nope.I'm Irish.

I am british

I'm Swedish.

im english irish scotish welsh dutch german scandinavian jewish and cheroke

I am from Australia.

I do not own a pet kangaroo.

I'm not American and proud of it.

i r not american

Actually I wish I was american so I could have voted against Bush, although Kerry was not any better. But at least I would have had the opportunity to say that they suck and I would have been heard by isolationist americans who only listen to americans.

R u aren't american, but they use them as well.

Actually I wish I was american so I could have voted against Bush, although Kerry was not any better. But at least I would have had the opportunity to say that they suck and I would have been heard by isolationist americans who only listen to americans.

Wow. Where to start with that one?

Actually I wish I was american: So come apply!

so I could have voted against Bush: True, but it usually takes about 7 years to gain citizenship. But that would be your right.

although Kerry was not any better: Probably, but we're unlikely to know now.

But at least I would have had the opportunity to say that they suck: You're doing that right now, though.

and I would have been heard: Which you are right now

by isolationist americans who only listen to americans: Americans are obviously *not* isolationist. Do you mean to Americans that voted for Bush, Americans that don't care about International policy, or Americans from "Red States"? Or something else entirely?

Americans havent' been truly isolationist since the Spanish American War, though the period between WW1 and WW2 was more isolationist than post WW2 to be sure.

Do you mean to Americans that voted for Bush, Americans that don't care about International policy, or Americans from "Red States"? Or something else entirely?
I mean those who said "you foreigners STFU this is OUR election" despite the fact that their country's military was bombing Iraq for "political" reasons.

I'm English thanks.


Up the Potters

I mean those who said "you foreigners STFU this is OUR election" despite the fact that their country's military was bombing Iraq for "political" reasons.

Sorry, but it *is* our election, not a plebecite on Iraq. Until such time as we have World Government, foreigners do not have a say as to whom should or should not be elected. An opinion, yes. A right to campaign? No.

And BTW, the US military is not bombing Iraq. The terrorists are bombing Iraq. We're hunting terrorists, for good for for ill, according to one's POV.

I am an American by birth but it's not in my blood and I do not live there.
American law states that all people that are born in America become American Citizens. I'm a dual citizen of America and my native land.

No, i'm ameri-can't.

Aymnotanmmeric*nteitherpleezedontkillme :) :sniper:

Not origionally. I was born in the former USSR, but I came over in 1991, so I've been 'American' since 2001.

I'm an American, sometimes proud of it and sometimes not. Like most countries, we have somethings that seriously need to be retooled. I think some people need to learn the difference between patriotism and jingoism. And nationalism is highly over rated.

Canada..true north strong and free! :cool:

Canada..true north strong and free! :cool:

Ah, it's only good because it's fairly unpopulated.

Let's hope the aboriginal peoples believe with you...

Canada: Strong because the US guards it from Mexico and Russia, free as in beer. ;)

Thank God not

I am an American!

God Bless the Office of the Presidency and the United States of America

Canada..true north strong and free! :cool:

That can be debated! :D

Thank God not

Finland, heathlands of Ostrobothnia


Does "Ostrobothnia" mean "the colder, more remote part"?

That can be debated! :D

How so?

How so?

Strong in what regard? Military? Doubtful! Economicly? Probably are! Free? Not as free as the USA! Hence, it can be debated that your strong and free.

But I do Like the Nation of Canada!

123-123 with my vote :)

And now for an economic report on Canada from CBS News:

In 2004, Americans spent $705.9 billion on entertainment, a figure equivalent to the entire gross national product of Canada -- or Australia, for that matter. These estimates come from Unity Marketing Group, of Stevens, Pa.

The company's president, Pam Danziger, explained that the key driver of the spending is consumers' need for "self actualization."

"Unlike so many other categories of spending that are directed toward the necessities of life, recreation and entertainment are purely discretionary and emotionally driven," she said.

According to Danziger, spending on this category accounts for 8.5 percent of personal consumption in the U.S.

Strong in what regard? Military? Doubtful! Economicly? Probably are! Free? Not as free as the USA! Hence, it can be debated that your strong and free.

But I do Like the Nation of Canada!

Hehe, only an American would think that only military equals strength.

*shakes her head*

Canada is the 9th largest economy in the world and probably higher than that for being stable.

Canada in my opinion is more free than that of the United States.. we allow use of weed for medical purpose, we don't let god get in the way of our government, we allow gay marriage.. I could go on, but most of all, in Canada we don't have any thing like the patriot act, we actually don't sweep people up off the street where they aren't heard from for months.. and they CAN have a lawyer.. and a trial even, imagine.. due process. I guess it depends on what YOU consider freedom huh..

Canada is strong in more ways than one.. :)

American by birth, military by choice, Southern by the grace of God. :D

That's right! American and proud of it. NC!

Hehe, only an American would think that only military equals strength.

*shakes her head*

It's because we're all sooo stupid.

:rolleyes:

You international self-righteous idiots forget the WWII bailout America gifted Europe. Not to mention the Marshall plan. You're welcome Germany and Japan!
Anyway, there are a ton of zealot fundamentalists here who are drunk on Cheetos and Wild Cherry Pepsi. Over half of our population suffer at the hands of these NASCAR-ese proletariot monsters. Don't forget that the next time you decide to America-bash. Canada, you are the world's largest exporter of asbestos, and what's happening to your forests? If you live in a glass house, be careful where you throw stones. Bullocks to the Queen's colonies and all their self-rtighteous posteuring! How long has it been since England was the biggest empire in the world? Just since Adolf fucked up your economy with his little march across Europe. I'm proud to be a progressive, enviornmentally conscious, voting, volunteering, open-minded American. What do you do to improve life in your country?

i am unfortunately :p

I am an American (and slightly ashamed after the, last election.) But i also have Brazilian and Polish citizenship, I am a Mutt through and through :)

Hehe, only an American would think that only military equals strength.

*shakes her head*

I'm allowed to carry my own pistol, loaded, and open or concealed, anywhere around where I live except inside a police station, courtroom, church, or public school.

I think that's rather hard to do in Canada. And my state's violent crime rate dropped over 35 percent in the year following the liberalization of concealed carry.

sadly yes. but hopefully one day i'll get to c eh? n eh? d eh?

maybe i should start claiming to be a southern canadian. :D

Interesting. I can say the same thing, except that my father was Korean, and I was born in North Carolina.
Kewl! Great place to be born, ain't it! :D

i dunno how thats possible
And I dunno how it could be anything OTHER than inevitable! :D

Portuguese Canadian here. so no

Hehe, only an American would think that only military equals strength.

*shakes her head*

I had to say it Stephistan! :) Had to keep up Apperences!

Canada is the 9th largest economy in the world and probably higher than that for being stable.

Good point but then, our economy is world driven much like Canada's but even more so meaning that we'll feel the affects moreso than Canada!

Canada in my opinion is more free than that of the United States.. we allow use of weed for medical purpose, we don't let god get in the way of our government, we allow gay marriage.. I could go on, but most of all, in Canada we don't have any thing like the patriot act, we actually don't sweep people up off the street where they aren't heard from for months.. and they CAN have a lawyer.. and a trial even, imagine.. due process. I guess it depends on what YOU consider freedom huh..

Not free in the form of Healthcare. we're not state runned like Canada is and thank God for that. As for the UAPATRIOT Act, I still live my life as a NORMAL human being. I can still do what I want, when I want to do it so how is it affecting my life? It is not. As for due process, we still have that too. Or are you talking the terrorist that we have in Gitmo? They are getting trials currently as we speak.

Canada is strong in more ways than one.. :)

And I won't argue this but I had to give an appearance of such! Honor you know ;)

Hehe, only an American would think that only military equals strength.

*shakes her head*

Canada is the 9th largest economy in the world and probably higher than that for being stable.

Canada in my opinion is more free than that of the United States.. we allow use of weed for medical purpose, we don't let god get in the way of our government, we allow gay marriage.. I could go on, but most of all, in Canada we don't have any thing like the patriot act, we actually don't sweep people up off the street where they aren't heard from for months.. and they CAN have a lawyer.. and a trial even, imagine.. due process. I guess it depends on what YOU consider freedom huh..

Canada is strong in more ways than one.. :)

Steph ... you know I like you, but sometimes you really don't make a lot of sense. All American citizens are entitled to know the charges against them and to a trial by a jury of their peers. Nowhere does it say that people who are not American citizens are entitled to any of the rights quaranteed to citizens by the Constitution.

I'm another Brit.

I'm proud to be part of the British youth and all that entails!
Examples: Smoking, Drinking, Stealing, Fighting etc.

We're not all that bad ;)

By the way: I'm trying to learn Russian at school from a sixth former who taught himself. anybody got any helpful hints? Im finding it hard going with only an hour a week to devote to the study of this very cool language.

Nope.

sadly yes. but hopefully one day i'll get to c eh? n eh? d eh?

maybe i should start claiming to be a southern canadian. :D
Do us all a favor and leave now. I'll even help pay your way. :D

I'm from Ireland

I'm Scottish personally.
I couldn't really care who is and isn't American.
Every country has it's faults, even America.

im a proletariat

Steph ... you know I like you, but sometimes you really don't make a lot of sense. All American citizens are entitled to know the charges against them and to a trial by a jury of their peers. Nowhere does it say that people who are not American citizens are entitled to any of the rights quaranteed to citizens by the Constitution.

And yet under your new patriot act many American citizen's were picked up using it and were jailed for months with zero due process. or being able to contact their families. Go figure!

I'm American. Always have been.

And yet under your new patriot act many American citizen's were picked up using it and were jailed for months with zero due process. or being able to contact their families. Go figure!Do you have a link to some sort of credible proof?

I'm from Spain. Now, here's a piece of my mind:

My eyes are hurting due to excesive rolling, and it seems to be this people´s fault:

1. "I'm ashamed to be american"

Give me a break. Every nation, and I mean EVERY single one has good and bad things and goes through good and not-so-good times. You could say that your current administration ashames you, but saying that you're ashamed of being american is simply stupid AND can be solved easily by moving somewhere else, great places that you can visit and soon feel ashamed of.

2. "It's ok, it's not your fault, Mr. Ashamed American"

:ROOOOOLLEYES: Captain self-righteous to the rescue!

3. "WE SAVED YOUR REARS IN WW2!"

Gaaaah... this is the stupidest thing ever. But look, I can play this game too! "HEY SHUDDAP! WE DISCOVERED YOU! HOW POWERFUL WUD U BE IF WE HADNT? ZERO THATS HOW MUCH HUR HUR HUR"

4. "BLOOD4OIL!"

*palmface*

And yet under your new patriot act many American citizen's were picked up using it and were jailed for months with zero due process. or being able to contact their families. Go figure!
There may have been some abuses, although I remain unconvinced as of this writing, but those have been or will be corrected by the American system of jurisprudence. As has been stated: "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they gind exceeding fine."

There may have been some abuses, although I remain unconvinced as of this writing, but those have been or will be corrected by the American system of jurisprudence. As has been stated: "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they gind exceeding fine."

I seen it on a CBC documentary done here in Canada. They spoke to the families and such. Turned out their loved ones were picked up just because they were Muslims.. turns out they had done nothing other than be Muslim. Yes, they were American Muslims in case you wonder. They pointed out too that the Justice department use to announce when they had picked people up, but because they were being question so much on this, they stopped letting the numbers become public. You may not trust the CBC, but I do.

Any way, this wasn't suppose to be "my country is better than yours" thread. I blame Corneliu for bringing it up.. LOL :D

There may have been some abuses, although I remain unconvinced as of this writing, but those have been or will be corrected by the American system of jurisprudence. As has been stated: "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they gind exceeding fine."

Tell that to the thousands of people detained for years, whose lives will be essentially ruined. Think of all that time they will have missed, do to mistakes. They won't be able to have the lives they wanted. Their jobs are lost, their education curtailed....Basically, their lives can't be fixed. They can be let out of jail, but what about their finances? What about all those aspiring doctors out there, who have years of schooling? Think about others for a change. Put yourself in that situation. Stop looking at things from an impersonal point of view. If it was you, and your life that was messed up, your dreams crushed, years taken from your life. That is one of my worst fears, for me not to succeed in life. I have a lot of goals, as do almost all of the prisoners held by the Patriot Act with no evidence against them whatsoever. Most Muslims do. I intend on being a doctor one day, and possibly triple majoring in college. That's going to take many years. Do you think I would want years taken away from me needlessly when every year is precious? Not to mention the horrific life of prison. I cannot stress how cold and heartless your message is.

Tell that to the thousands of people detained for years, whose lives will be essentially ruined. Think of all that time they will have missed, do to mistakes. They won't be able to have the lives they wanted. Their jobs are lost, their education curtailed....Basically, their lives can't be fixed. They can be let out of jail, but what about their finances? What about all those aspiring doctors out there, who have years of schooling? Think about others for a change. Put yourself in that situation. Stop looking at things from an impersonal point of view. If it was you, and your life that was messed up, your dreams crushed, years taken from your life. That is one of my worst fears, for me not to succeed in life. I have a lot of goals, as do almost all of the prisoners held by the Patriot Act with no evidence against them whatsoever. Most Muslims do. I intend on being a doctor one day, and possibly triple majoring in college. That's going to take many years. Do you think I would want years taken away from me needlessly when every year is precious? Not to mention the horrific life of prison. I cannot stress how cold and heartless your message is.
Well, you don't know me or you wouldn't make that sort of statement. I do feel sorrow for any who may have been incorrectly detained, just as I feel sorrow for those charged with crimes such as rape who were later proven ( largely by the development of DNA testing ) to have been falsely accused and incorrectly convicted.

The problem with this entire issue is that most Americans, including those in government and the police forces, were deeply shocked by 9/11 and may indeed have overreacted. Shortly after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, many Japanese Americans were interned in camps for very similar reasons. Many years passed before restitution was made. It may be that neither of these actions ( internment of Japanese Americans and internment of Moslem Americans ) were justified. However, can you at least understand the shock and fear which prompted them?

Nationality means nothing at all. There good and bad in all countries. Though having said that...the US does seem to have a higher than average amount of arrogant jerks.

This coming from an Englishman... (or-woman.. hehe)

Though I do love England. If I weren't in America, I would want to live in England.

Aww, I touched a few Yankee nerves. What made you think I was referring to you? Are you subconciously that US jerk? C'mon be honest? Anyway, what are you going to do, drop bombs on my house and label me a terrorist?

Correction you're very witty: just imagine you could have also said, 'takes one to know one' or 'oh no we're not, you are!' or the never ending classic 'oh, the irony!'.

Do you come up with your own material? Perhaps you could write some of it down?

To every American who says "we saved your ass in WWII and then again with the Marshall Plan" to Europeans as though we're altruistic sweethearts- get a grip! We did it out of self-interest. It was perhaps enlightened self-interest, but self-interest all the same. It was in our own interest to stabilize Europe by fighting the Axis, rebuilding the economies was neccessary to keep the USSR from grabbing anymore and we didn't do it out of love. Governments rarely do.

Jag är svensk!!! :fluffle: Go Sweden. Make love not war. ;) :D

I R no Amairikan.

I'm from somewhere between Japan and South Africa (not in the tsunami area), but most of the posts I've seen on here seem to point at Europe or somewhere in the Western Hemisphere.

Finland, heathlands of Ostrobothnia


Does "Ostrobothnia" mean "the colder, more remote part"?

A bit late here..

No, that would be Lapland :P

Definitely not.

An American proud enough to join the military here.