NationStates Jolt Archive


What links...?

Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 16:12
What links the following four people:

Elizabeth Fry, Charles Darwin, Sir Edward Elgar and John Houblon*?

...and who should be in their place?





* Who? Exactly.
Zeppistan
10-01-2005, 16:26
They are all faces on the back of British Banknotes.

Who should be on that list?

George Stephenson, and Charles Dickens were who were replaced on the 5, and 10 by Fry and Darwin.

The other two should, of course, have .... ummmm .... Benny Hill and John Cleese?
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 16:35
They are all faces on the back of British Banknotes.

Correct. Bank of England notes to be exact.


Who should be on that list?

George Stephenson, and Charles Dickens were who were replaced on the 5, and 10 by Fry and Darwin.

The other two should, of course, have .... ummmm .... Benny Hill and John Cleese?

Why go for Dickens instead of Darwin?

How would keeping Darwin on the £10, and putting Freud on the £5, Emmeline Pankhurst on the £20, Karl Marx on the £50 sound? - after all both Freud and Marx were resident in England at some point in their lives. Possibly another woman would be nice, but there is after all old Queenie on the back. How about if we swapped out the current portrait of her and got Jon Savage todo another rendition of it?
Kanabia
10-01-2005, 16:38
Karl Marx on the £50

I love the irony in that :)
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 16:42
I love the irony in that :)

There was a way of folding the old £5 notes with Charles Dickens on one side and fat Liz on the back so that you got a passable picture of Karl Marx out of the two portraits, but it was a long and involved process.

Who gets on the Australian notes? I checked the Canadian ones after seeing Zeppistan post and was disappointed to see that they just had ex-prime ministers on them.
Kanabia
10-01-2005, 16:47
Who gets on the Australian notes? I checked the Canadian ones after seeing Zeppistan post and was disappointed to see that they just had ex-prime ministers on them.

You know, i've never really paid much attention to that.

*looks at notes and does research*

We have a General...a singer...an aboriginal writer...a female politician...a doctor...a businesswoman...two poets, and Queen Elizabeth II.

The figures (apart from the Queen) are all virtually unknown outside of Australia (I recognise only half of them), but if you're interested:

http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/currency.html
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 16:50
*looks at notes and does research*

We have a General...a singer...an aboriginal writer...a female politician...a doctor...a businesswoman...two poets, and Queen Elizabeth II.

The other figures are all virtually unknown outside of Australia, but if you're interested:

http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/currency.html


Yeah, I found the wikipedia page here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_currency#Current_banknotes_and_coins) shortly after I asked. Not a bad selection, certainly more interesting than just ex-presidents or prime ministers. Any improvements you would go for?
Kanabia
10-01-2005, 16:57
Yeah, I found the wikipedia page here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_currency#Current_banknotes_and_coins) shortly after I asked. Not a bad selection, certainly more interesting than just ex-presidents or prime ministers. Any improvements you would go for?

Hmm. I'd ditch the Queen and put Captain Cook on there, maybe. Most of our most famous cultural icons are sporting types, and I don't think they should really be on there. So i'm pretty happy with how it is.
Zeppistan
10-01-2005, 17:00
Didn't some paper in Britain do a poll (something owned by Virgin I think), and the British public picked a bunch of dumb celebrities like David Beckham, Kylie Minogue, Lady Di, Robbie Willioams, Sean Connery and the like as their preferences?
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 17:06
Didn't some paper in Britain do a poll (something owned by Virgin I think), and the British public picked a bunch of dumb celebrities like David Beckham, Kylie Minogue, Lady Di, Robbie Willioams, Sean Connery and the like as their preferences?

This is why 're-education camps' are such a vital part of the coming revolution.
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 17:10
Hmm. I'd ditch the Queen and put Captain Cook on there, maybe. Most of our most famous cultural icons are sporting types, and I don't think they should really be on there. So i'm pretty happy with how it is.

You do realise that you're passing up the opportunity to have Ned Kelly and Errol Flynn on your legal tender here, don't you?
Kanabia
10-01-2005, 17:20
You do realise that you're passing up the opportunity to have Ned Kelly and Errol Flynn on your legal tender here, don't you?

Perhaps. I thought Ned Kelly would be amusing, but more likely than not he was just a common criminal and the legend has warped him into a folk-hero. Not the best figure to have on something like that.

As for Errol Flynn, meh.

I think Peter Lalor would be a better figure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Stockade) :)

Oh, and silly British wanting Kylie Minogue on their bank-notes. She's Australian too. :p
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 17:26
I think Peter Lalor would be a better figure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Stockade) :)

Interesting.

Oh, and silly British wanting Kylie Minogue on their bank-notes. She's Australian too. :p

It didn't seem worth picking up on Zeppistan's error earlier, he did after all say 'dumb celebrities like'. The results of the survey were:

David Beckham 37%
Winston Churchill 29%
Princess Diana 21%
William Shakespeare 13%
Catherine Zeta-Jones 8%
Robbie Williams 8%

According to this site: http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=12510

The page spectacularly fails to explain why a total of 116% is reached when you add up all the figures...
Kanabia
10-01-2005, 17:32
The page spectacularly fails to explain why a total of 116% is reached when you add up all the figures...

LOL :D

I think out of all of those listed, Shakespeare would be a decent one.
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 17:35
LOL :D

I think out of all of those listed, Shakespeare would be a decent one.

IIRC he used to be on the £20 from 1980-something to 1990-something.
Demented Hamsters
10-01-2005, 17:35
I think the Kiwi pesos have got some good ppl on them:
$5 note - Sir Ed Hillary. How many other countries still have a living person on their notes and whose most famous quote is "Well, we knocked the Bastard off!";
$10 note - Kate Sheppard, leading suffragette that made NZ the first country to give women equal voting rights;
$20 note - Queen. Needed to be there on one I guess;
$50 note - Sir Apirana Ngata, a great Maori politician and leader;
$100 note - Lord Rutherford, Nobel prize winner and splitter of the atom.

This site has them:
http://moneypix.narod.ru/nz.html
But it takes a bloody long time to load.
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 17:39
I think the Kiwi pesos have got some good ppl on them:

Not bad, but the arts seem a bit unrepresented.
Conceptualists
10-01-2005, 18:06
IIRC he used to be on the £20 from 1980-something to 1990-something.
He was replaced by Elizabeth Fry wasn't he?
Zeppistan
10-01-2005, 18:24
Interesting.



It didn't seem worth picking up on Zeppistan's error earlier, he did after all say 'dumb celebrities like'. The results of the survey were:

David Beckham 37%
Winston Churchill 29%
Princess Diana 21%
William Shakespeare 13%
Catherine Zeta-Jones 8%
Robbie Williams 8%

According to this site: http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=12510

The page spectacularly fails to explain why a total of 116% is reached when you add up all the figures...


Another source that includes Kylie...

http://www.ananova.com/business/story/sm_804645.html

The total exceeding 100% I assume means that those polled could select mutliple personalities given that there are multiple denominations to afix faces to.

The person (according to the story) least likely to show up on a banknote near you?

Tony Blair.
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 19:40
He was replaced by Elizabeth Fry wasn't he?

No, she's on the £5 and replaced Stephenson. Shakespeare on the £20 was first replaced by Faraday and then Elgar.
Conceptualists
10-01-2005, 19:42
No, she's on the £5 and replaced Stephenson. Shakespeare on the £20 was first replaced by Faraday and then Elgar.

Right.

Out of interest, what is on NI bank notes? Te only thing I remember about them is that they look like monopoly money and are plasticy.
Bodies Without Organs
10-01-2005, 20:08
Right.

Out of interest, what is on NI bank notes? Te only thing I remember about them is that they look like monopoly money and are plasticy.

The plastic one is the Northern Bank £5, and has a pictue of the Space Shuttle on it, for reasons I am unable to understand. Following the £22 million bank robbery from the Northern Bank here, all the Northern Bank notes are going to be withdrawn and replaced with slightly different colours and designs. Harry Ferguson (of Massey-Ferguson fame) is on one of their notes, along with a picture of one of his tractors, Dunlop (inventor of the pneumatic tyre) makes an appearance on another.

There are also Bank of Ireland, First Trust and Ulster Bank notes produced here - its the Ulster Bank ones that look like monopoly money - but none of them are particularly interesting (even though my old university appears on one of them).