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Seriously, being an Australian cricket fan, watching the game is getting boreing, no one is competing!

P.S. If you are an inorant yank with nothing constructive to contribute, please leave, now.

Eventually every crown topples. I think NZ will be the next cricket champions. Biased and personal opinion.

Do crickets play cricket? And if so, are they good at it? :confused:

Eventually every crown topples. I think NZ will be the next cricket champions. Biased and personal opinion.

Fair 'nuff, the kiwis are doin' all right, but we kicked your ass in the last test series, and we were at half strength when you beat us in the one dayer.

Do crickets play cricket? And if so, are they good at it? :confused:
i'm guessing u r american. and no, crickets don't play cricket

Yeah, Damnit, our boys are just too strong ;)

All the people saying that aussie will never loose number one ranking are horribly mistaken. players change, rankings change. nuff said. your rank will last a decade at the max

All the people saying that aussie will never loose number one ranking are horribly mistaken. players change, rankings change. nuff said. your rank will last a decade at the max

A decade is a long time, and we have one hell of a player base. Our domestic cricket is the best in the world.

Cricket?? That's a sport? Oh right! It's a "sport" like curling, golf and darts... ;)

No offense, but does the rest of the world even care? England and Australia are the only two contries that I have ever heard of that have a decent interest, and England seems to be more interested in soccer and rugby.

No offense, but does the rest of the world even care? England and Australia are the only two contries that I have ever heard of that have a decent interest, and England seems to be more interested in soccer and rugby.
If my comment was any indication.... :D

No offense, but does the rest of the world even care?

although I'm a Brit, I'm not a big cricket fan by any estimation; but I do know that most of the former commonwealth nations have a big interest in cricket, especially both the west and east indies :p

The current England test team has the makings of a decent one day team, if only because they have a disturbing tendancy to hit at everything

No offense, but does the rest of the world even care? England and Australia are the only two contries that I have ever heard of that have a decent interest, and England seems to be more interested in soccer and rugby.

and India(1/6th of the worlds population)? Cricket is like a religion over there. Sachin Tendulker can't go anywhere in public. At all. If he does, he'll be mobbed by hundreds of people just wanting a touch. A young lady set herself on fire when she thought that an injury had ended his career, and that is only one player. The other players on the team are in a simlilar boat. Banglidesh are useless, and even they completely fill their stadiums every time. Pakistan, Sri Lanka, South Africa, New Zealand and loads of islands in the West Indies have a huge fan base.

Seriously, being an Australian cricket fan, watching the game is getting boreing, no one is competing!


If it weren't for the tsunami, New Zealand had a good chance to put away Sri Lanka (ranked #2) quite convincingly in the ODI series (we creamed them in the first and only game before they went home to assess the damage) and if that had happened, then Australia would have been defending their #1 ODI ranking on our dodgy pitches next month.

Remember, not everything lasts for Ever, Before Australia ruled Cricket, the West Indies did. However looking at the Current line up of Teams India is showing good Promise but sadly still lacking. Australians Future problem will be there isn't enough new blood flowing throw to keep Australia at its Levels. They will eventually fall from there High in Cricket.

No offense, but does the rest of the world even care? England and Australia are the only two contries that I have ever heard of that have a decent interest, and England seems to be more interested in soccer and rugby.

No Offence but Cricket is very large thing, we presently have over 1 Billion people world Wide watching the Present game live in Australia. Cricket probley is the 2nd Largest Sport in the World after soccer. Cricket is very big.

definatly the Poms or the Kiwi's

The Ashes could actually be interesting

No Offence but Cricket is very large thing, we presently have over 1 Billion people world Wide watching the Present game live in Australia. Cricket probley is the 2nd Largest Sport in the World after soccer. Cricket is very big.
.. which just raised A$14.5millon

.. which just raised A$14.5millon

Considering that’s Australia only… That’s a very good Achievement.

Remember, not everything lasts for Ever, Before Australia ruled Cricket, the West Indies did. However looking at the Current line up of Teams India is showing good Promise but sadly still lacking. Australians Future problem will be there isn't enough new blood flowing throw to keep Australia at its Levels. They will eventually fall from there High in Cricket.

WRONG! The West Indies died because they had no base, but we have layers and layers of support. Our current team is old but we have heaps of young'ns coming through, look at Micheal Clarke: young guy, comes through and scores a ton first match against India in India, and then comes here and scores another in his first match here.

I doubt England will get to be the best in the world very soon, but they're rising up the ranks. 2nd or 3rd best will do I think.

No Offence but Cricket is very large thing, we presently have over 1 Billion people world Wide watching the Present game live in Australia. Cricket probley is the 2nd Largest Sport in the World after soccer. Cricket is very big.

My apologies. But cricket is not exactly high on my radar, either. But what do I know? I'm just an uncultured American.

My apologies. But cricket is not exactly high on my radar, either. But what do I know? I'm just an uncultured American.

Its not your fault if the US media shows no interest in sports that the US does not do well. The three leading team sports in the world are simply not well represented in the USA. You have MLS, but this is a poor shadow of what football can be, and who there ever swa a cricket or rugby match.

Perhaps if you complained to ESPN/ABC/CBS/NBC etc. they might show . . ., forget it. I'm dreaming!

Brazil is not much better. We get football, volleyball, basketball, and surfing here. Not a lot else.

Its not your fault if the US media shows no interest in sports that the US does not do well.

The US used to be quite good at Cricket, until baseball took over of course.

The US used to be quite good at Cricket, until baseball took over of course.That's interesting; I had no idea that the US ever played cricket in any meaningful sense. How long ago was this? Can't say I blame you for switching - I'd far rather watch baseball, and that's speaking as a Brit.

I heard a theory that football (or "soccer", if you really must) is unlikely to become a major sport in the US due to its lack of frequent breaks, and thus advertising opportunities. Is that a reasonable conjecture, do you think?

That's interesting; I had no idea that the US ever played cricket in any meaningful sense. How long ago was this? Can't say I blame you for switching - I'd far rather watch baseball, and that's speaking as a Brit.

Around a century ago. There was an article in the Guardian about it around a year ago. I'll try and find it.

I heard a theory that football (or "soccer", if you really must) is unlikely to become a major sport in the US due to its lack of frequent breaks, and thus advertising opportunities. Is that a reasonable conjecture, do you think?

I'm British ;)

I'm British ;)Excuses! You're my new-found expert on American sports sociology, whether you like it or not. Now, answer my question or I'll come round to your house and bombard you with small chocolate wombats.

No Offence but Cricket is very large thing, we presently have over 1 Billion people world Wide watching the Present game live in Australia. Cricket probley is the 2nd Largest Sport in the World after soccer. Cricket is very big.


Wha???? Are you on crack? Who outside of india/australia/ zealand/england watches cricket?


Has to be THE most boring game I have ever seen. I mean even curling is better...

Wha???? Are you on crack? Who outside of india/australia/ zealand/england watches cricket?


Has to be THE most boring game I have ever seen. I mean even curling is better...

South Africa, pakistan, sri lanka, zimbabwe, west indies, bangladesh.... might not be countries that anybody gives 2 shits about usually, but that is over 350 million people, and cricket is the main or one of the main summer codes in all of those places. The game is more popular than any American sport, but that is because those sports are generally only played in the US anyway (although I understand baseball is gaining popularity in several places).

The three leading team sports in the world are simply not well represented in the USA. You have MLS, but this is a poor shadow of what football can be, and who there ever swa a cricket or rugby match.

Your estimate of the top three team sports in the world is rather off. Volleyball is #1, by a very large margin, followed by basketball and football.

Someone has compiled a fairly good list of the numbers involved, found here (http://www.johann-sandra.com/popular.htm).

There are no figures for cricket, but rugby falls below baseball, team handball and hockey.

Returning to the original question, India certainly has the makings of a top-class team. Almost all of Australia's team is over 30, so it wouldn't take too much for them to drop back to the rest of the pack.

Your estimate of the top three team sports in the world is rather off. Volleyball is #1, by a very large margin, followed by basketball and football.

Someone has compiled a fairly good list of the numbers involved, found here (http://www.johann-sandra.com/popular.htm).

There are no figures for cricket, but rugby falls below baseball, team handball and hockey.

Returning to the original question, India certainly has the makings of a top-class team. Almost all of Australia's team is over 30, so it wouldn't take too much for them to drop back to the rest of the pack.


FIBA claims over 400 million people play basketball in the world, or one in every twelve men, women, and children, and senior citizens (over 500 million worldwide). This seems a little odd... When questioned, FIBA did not respond. The Jr. NBA states that they feel that the number is "a little high".


FIVB claims nearly 1billion people play volleyball in the world. One out of every six people. That's really interesting... When questioned, they backed off that statement to say that there are 33 million registered players, but that there are many more than that who are recreational players (obviously, but not 1 billion...). They also stated that there are definitely not four times the amount of volleyball players as soccer players in the world, which basically refuted their initial statement.

Woohoo, you can read the link. What's your point?

How would anyone ever know? The bloody games have no end. People grow beards in the time it takes to finish.

America will.

If we ever learn how to play that damn game.

A cricket pitch is a bunch of guys standing around in a field while one guy holds a bat that looks like it was made to give out spankings in grade school. An American seeing a game of cricket will wander out to the field

"Watcha doing?" asks the American looking to see if anyone is handing out drinks.

"Playing Cricket you stupid Yank." says the batsman trying to concentrate.

"Oh" says the American surprised. "Where's the cricket?"

Woohoo, you can read the link. What's your point?
haha now thats pretty funny mate

America will.

If we ever learn how to play that damn game.

A cricket pitch is a bunch of guys standing around in a field while one guy holds a bat that looks like it was made to give out spankings in grade school. An American seeing a game of cricket will wander out to the field

"Watcha doing?" asks the American looking to see if anyone is handing out drinks.

"Playing Cricket you stupid Yank." says the batsman trying to concentrate.

"Oh" says the American surprised. "Where's the cricket?"

and 2 seconds later gets hit by in the head by a bouncer traveling at 150kmph. wakes up with undisputed knowledge of cricket and the American cricket dynasty is born

They must a played cricket in America at sum point, since it was colonised by the british(i think). or was that before cricket?

Have half u Americans even SEEN a game of cricket?!. Just out of curiosity

I reckon the Poms could knock us off, the upcoming Ashes tour should be a good yardstick. The Kiwis have some outstanding players (Cairns, Vettori, Fleming), but not enough depth. I would have said India, but they really seem to have fallen away in the last 18 months.

Woohoo, you can read the link. What's your point?

The point was that you used the link to proove what were the most played sports in the world, when the link then denied it was true...

Gah, I knew this thread would fail! Its turned in to a bunch of uncultured yanks bitching cause they cant play cricket. *sighs*, can we get this thing back on track please?

Gah, I knew this thread would fail! Its turned in to a bunch of uncultured yanks bitching cause they cant play cricket. *sighs*, can we get this thing back on track please?


Lets, games involving Australia are getting rather boring, I mean there's no competion. I think the problem is that the Aussies have become so good, not that everyone else has fallen back.

I think it will be best for the game if the English thrash the Australians this summer. But I'm not keeping my fingers crossed.

But the Australians might have some trouble in the coming years as they will probably have to replace their entire bowling line-up.

My prediction for the Ashes:

Australia will absolutely slaughter England in the first three tests, and then we'll collapse in the two dead rubbers. Its a tradition in Australian Cricket: we play crap in dead rubbers.

Lets, games involving Australia are getting rather boring, I mean there's no competion. I think the problem is that the Aussies have become so good, not that everyone else has fallen back.

I think it will be best for the game if the English thrash the Australians this summer. But I'm not keeping my fingers crossed.

But the Australians might have some trouble in the coming years as they will probably have to replace their entire bowling line-up.

Both of the ODIs against New Zealand weren't boring. The tests against India weren't boring. Actually, oz-india tests are often not boring.

At some stage oz will be knocked off by someone, it happens to all teams eventually. I think its more likely to happen in the One dayers first though, both Sri Lanka and New Zealand when they are full strength have very strong sides.

Oh and Shane Bond is back bowling again. He'll probably disapoint everyone and fade away again, but surely ozzies remember who he is, right?

the Australians might have some trouble in the coming years as they will probably have to replace their entire bowling line-up.

So what? we have masses of fast bowlers and spinners waiting for the postion: Brett Lee, Shaun Tait, Andy Bichel (though he's getting a bit old), Shane Watson, Brad Hogg, Stuart MacGill, Brad Williams, the list goes on...

Oh and Shane Bond is back bowling again. He'll probably disapoint everyone and fade away again, but surely ozzies remember who he is, right?

No, not really. He was injured during the recent series & there was a lot of buzz about him not being there. What's so spesh about him?

So what? we have masses of fast bowlers and spinners waiting for the postion: Brett Lee, Shaun Tait, Andy Bichel (though he's getting a bit old), Shane Watson, Brad Hogg, Stuart MacGill, Brad Williams, the list goes on...

We have lots of bowlers playing good shield cricket, but McGrath & Warne are once in a generation players.

We have lots of bowlers playing good shield cricket, but McGrath & Warne are once in a generation players.

And when you have a training program like ours, there will be more like them. Cricket Australia has structures in place that will assure the success of Australian Cricket for generations, and that's why we'll always be the best.

I don't think we'll be top of the tree forever, the wheel turns. I think we'll remain strong due the good infrastructure we have, but I think we'll come back to the pack a bit. Closer tests would be a good thing anyway, so many of them don't even go to four days, let alone five.

No, not really. He was injured during the recent series & there was a lot of buzz about him not being there. What's so spesh about him?
he took alot of wickets against us last summer.... which we played them

So what? we have masses of fast bowlers and spinners waiting for the postion: Brett Lee, Shaun Tait, Andy Bichel (though he's getting a bit old), Shane Watson, Brad Williams, the list goes on... -snip spinners-
They will need alot of work to get to mcgrath's level

No, not really. He was injured during the recent series & there was a lot of buzz about him not being there. What's so spesh about him?

He had a lot of success in oz in the VB series a few years ago, when australia missed out on the finals to New Zealand and South Africa, and has been revered in NZ since even though strings of injuries have kept him out.

Bond takes a 5-for (http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2001-02/OD_TOURNEYS/VBS/SCORECARDS/AUS_NZ_VBS_ODI8_26JAN2002.html) (NZ won, and I can still see Gilchrists stumps getting taken out by 150km of yorker)

Bond takes a 6-for and has oz at 7-84 before Bevan and Bichel manage to see off his 10, and rebuild. NZ batting naturally collapsed and oz won. (http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/WORLD_CUPS/WC2003/SCORECARDS/SUPSIX/AUS_NZ_WC2003_ODI-SUPSIX5_11MAR2003.html)


I guess he was the first real superstar we have had in ages, so everyone loves talking him up, and talking about how great its gonna be when he comes back. I'm setting myself up for disapointment when he does.

They will need alot of work to get to mcgrath's level

McGrath and Warne have over 1000 test wickets between them. Players like that don't just get dished out.

Your estimate of the top three team sports in the world is rather off. Volleyball is #1, by a very large margin, followed by basketball and football.

Someone has compiled a fairly good list of the numbers involved, found here (http://www.johann-sandra.com/popular.htm).

There are no figures for cricket, but rugby falls below baseball, team handball and hockey.

Returning to the original question, India certainly has the makings of a top-class team. Almost all of Australia's team is over 30, so it wouldn't take too much for them to drop back to the rest of the pack.

Just a minor point about the top three most popular team sports. I was not referring to participants but to fans. There is absolutely no doubt that football is #1 in this, with cricket and rugby following on. ahead of basketball, volleyball, baseball, handball, water polo, etc. The poll you cite actually quotes the federation figures, which in volleyball includes all amateurs but in football only the professionals. Not a level playing field.

i'm sorry, but i have an odd interest in learing how to play cricket. But living in america, nobody has the slightest clue of how to play, let alone what it is. If somebody could leave me a link that would best give the instructions that would be great. And why do i hear that it is the only sport that could possibly last up to a week?? that sounds like a little tooo long for anyone to be playing the same game...

http://sportsvl.com/ball/cricket/cricket.htm

This ones more of a funny one :D

http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/6174/jokes/how2cricket.htm

The point was that you used the link to proove what were the most played sports in the world, when the link then denied it was true...

I wasn't using it to prove anything. I was providing data points that fairly clearly show that rugby and cricket are nowhere near the top of team sports in terms of popularity. The writers of that page disagree with the federations' numbers, but that's not proof.

Even if you do cut down volleyball and basketball's numbers, they are still likely to be way ahead of cricket and rugby.


AlienBorn sez:

Just a minor point about the top three most popular team sports. I was not referring to participants but to fans. There is absolutely no doubt that football is #1 in this, with cricket and rugby following on. ahead of basketball, volleyball, baseball, handball, water polo, etc. The poll you cite actually quotes the federation figures, which in volleyball includes all amateurs but in football only the professionals. Not a level playing field.


Do you have evidence to show that cricket and rugby have the second & third largest fan base in the world? I couldn't find anything about that, and have a hard time believing the claim. Each one is only played to any great extent in a handful of countries (despite rugby having some 100 federations, it is an extremely minor sport in most of those places).

i'm sorry, but i have an odd interest in learing how to play cricket. But living in america, nobody has the slightest clue of how to play, let alone what it is.

Imagine a game of baseball, in the round, on a large field, and heavily weighted to the batters. They have bigger bats and they bat until they get out. You have 11 on each side, and you need two batting at a time. So, when 10 of the side gets out, the other side goes into bat.

In a test match, each side gets to bat twice to determine the winner. A team can easily bat for a day or more, so the games tend to last quite a while.

IMO, there is a lot more variety in cricket than in baseball. For example:
- The field is bigger, so the fielding team has to work out where to leave gaps.
- The ball generally bounces before reaching the batsman, which allows for more variety.

Unfortunately, either game is deadly dull until you work out what's going on.

The links will give you more information.

{url=http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2001-02/OD_TOURNEYS/VBS/SCORECARDS/AUS_NZ_VBS_ODI8_26JAN2002.html]Bond takes a 5-for[/url] (NZ won, and I can still see Gilchrists stumps getting taken out by 150km of yorker).

Thanks, I remember him now. Any chance he'll be playing when we tour NZ in a couple of months?

Seriously, being an Australian cricket fan, watching the game is getting boreing, no one is competing!

P.S. If you are an inorant yank with nothing constructive to contribute, please leave, now.

Personally, I haven't tired from watching us crucify the opposition, and I don't think I ever will. Enjoy it while it lasts. I think the largest threat to our continued success would be if the US forwarded an international cricket team.

Personally, I haven't tired from watching us crucify the opposition, and I don't think I ever will. Enjoy it while it lasts. I think the largest threat to our continued success would be if the US forwarded an international cricket team.

The series win in India was sweet, but it would be nice if the home tests were a bit more of a challenge.

I think the largest threat to our continued success would be if the US forwarded an international cricket team.

Come of it, Americans dont have the patience to stand out on an oval for five days.

Come of it, Americans dont have the patience to stand out on an oval for five days.

As much as I'd like to agree, I'm sure there are some VERY competent cricketers in the US, we're in real trouble if they join in. Also, isn't 20 over a side cricket (God forbid) soon to arrive.

As much as I'd like to agree, I'm sure there are some VERY competent cricketers in the US, we're in real trouble if they join in. Also, isn't 20 over a side cricket (God forbid) soon to arrive.

I think even that would be long enough to put them off. I don't think it'll take off in America because they have their own extremely popular indigenous sports. They'll never have a strong enough cricket base to challenge the big teams.

Just to go a little off topic, USA is currently the reigning Rugby Olympic gold medalists.

See they used to play proper sports.

I didn't know that rugby was ever an olympic sport.

I didn't know that rugby was ever an olympic sport.

It was in 1924 and none of the decent rugby nations bothered to turn up. NZ or south africa would have creamed everyone at that stage, as they were the best 2 teams by far for the first 90 years of the 20th century.

As much as I'd like to agree, I'm sure there are some VERY competent cricketers in the US, we're in real trouble if they join in. Also, isn't 20 over a side cricket (God forbid) soon to arrive.

Twenty20 cricket would be perfect for the tiny american attention span. Its all over in a few hours, you can have an ad between every over and the game is about knocking the ball out of the park Chris Cairns style. (as opposed to his fathers one-handed 6 hitting. At the MCG no less. With the fence as the boundry)

Thanks, I remember him now. Any chance he'll be playing when we tour NZ in a couple of months?

He got through 10 overs for his club side taking 1-13 the other day. He's done shitloads of work on his action, so hopefully he'll come through ok and be up for the aussie series. He said he 'let a few go' during that game, but there is still no real word on how fast he can still bowl.

Twenty20 cricket would be perfect for the tiny american attention span. Its all over in a few hours, you can have an ad between every over and the game is about knocking the ball out of the park Chris Cairns style. (as opposed to his fathers one-handed 6 hitting. At the MCG no less. With the fence as the boundry)

He was a big bloke. I think they should have called it the Underarm trophy, rather than the Chappell-Hadlee. It's much catchier.

Twenty20 cricket would be perfect for the tiny american attention span. Its all over in a few hours, you can have an ad between every over and the game is about knocking the ball out of the park Chris Cairns style. (as opposed to his fathers one-handed 6 hitting. At the MCG no less. With the fence as the boundry)

Twenty20 is disgusting. I can understand one dayers, but twenty over innings? its too fast. Nothing will ever replace the classic concept of a game that goes for five days and ends in a draw half the time.

He was a big bloke. I think they should have called it the Underarm trophy, rather than the Chappell-Hadlee. It's much catchier.

ha ha.

Twenty20 is disgusting. I can understand one dayers, but twenty over innings? its too fast. Nothing will ever replace the classic concept of a game that goes for five days and ends in a draw half the time.

Oh yeah, I agree but if anything is going to make it in America, twenty20 is it.

Being an American, my cricket knowledge is limited, though I try to follow it as best I can through my Pakistani friend who plays for a local team. He keeps me pretty well updated, although everything I hear is biased in favor of Pakistan. I would have to say India or England have the best shot at it, but not enough to knock off the Auzzies anytime soon. New Zealand also look pretty strong.

Twenty20 is disgusting. I can understand one dayers, but twenty over innings? its too fast. Nothing will ever replace the classic concept of a game that goes for five days and ends in a draw half the time.

I couldn't agree more.

Twenty20 is disgusting. I can understand one dayers, but twenty over innings? its too fast. Nothing will ever replace the classic concept of a game that goes for five days and ends in a draw half the time.

Most of the tests these days have results, they're usually only draws when there's rain/bad light.

I've just watched the first couple of overs of the Pakistan/Australia A 20Twenty match, and it is absolutely... the most appropriate term I have that will not incur the wrath of the moderators is blasphemous.

Given Australia's recent thrashing of the ICC World XI 3-0, I think it would be appropriate to bump this thread.

Given Australia's recent thrashing of the ICC World XI 3-0, I think it would be appropriate to bump this thread.

It might also be appropriate to mention England demolishing the Austrailians in the Ashes :D

Given Australia's recent thrashing of the ICC World XI 3-0, I think it would be appropriate to bump this thread.

That series seriously lacked intensity.

Naturally the best World XI bowler was a New Zealander who people in the rest of the world said shouldn't be there. Pft.



As far as 'world cricket champions', I don't think Australia will indefinately win the world cup, and whether or not you think England are the best test team now because they beat australia, or that australia still are because they're at the top of the rankings, is up to your own discretion.