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This forum is open to those who love Star Wars. This is also for discussing Star Wars past, present, and future. If noone has a topic then I have one. The new Star Wars movie coming out on May 19. So reply with your views on this topic.

The whole Star Wars story is based on a medieval world view: the central message of the first film is that it is better to reject reason and rationality and instead embrace some half-baked mystical claptrap.

Are you a fan of Star Wars?

The whole Star Wars story is based on a medieval world view: the central message of the first film is that it is better to reject reason and rationality and instead embrace some half-baked mystical claptrap.
Hahahah - so true

Which is why I gave up Star Wars in exchange for Gundam

My views? They're decent movies, worth watching once in a while. But Star Trek is extremely superior to Star Wars, hands down. Anyone who disagrees with that has no understanding of Star Trek; either that, or they prefer just pure action and fantasy to intellectual, touching stories.

Are you a fan of Star Wars?

The first three films were entertaining enough when I was a kid, but seeing them again they are pretty much laughable. Together with Steven Spielberg, George Lucas crippled the intellect of the American film industry with their production of spectacle movies which had little or no content and little relation to the actual world we live in.

The first three films were entertaining enough when I was a kid, but seeing them again they are pretty much laughable
Yeah . . . isn't episode 3 supposed to be *way* overloaded with CG?

Yeah . . . isn't episode 3 supposed to be *way* overloaded with CG animation?

I wasn't so much refering to Lucas's revisionist tendencies, rather the fact that they are basically high budget pantomimes.

My views? They're decent movies, worth watching once in a while. But Star Trek is extremely superior to Star Wars, hands down. Anyone who disagrees with that has no understanding of Star Trek; either that, or they prefer just pure action and fantasy to intellectual, touching stories.

I'd rather Trek any day, that's not to say that there isn't a fair bit of crap (especially TNG, 2nd season IMHO).

I've always been facinated by the idea that ST is SW from the Empire's point of view:)

Gees, I think you guys are being a bit tough on it...
Star Wars was a great cinematic achievement for its time, and it still deserves the title of "Classic" today. Of course most of the action scenes are almost embarrassing to watch, but we still get plenty of those movies today.
I think the writers have done a much better job in the newest two movies, much more depth, not to mention a half descent storyline. I must say Phantom Menace has, without a doubt, the BEST light saber fights ever. There will be those of you who may say Yoda's fight was better, but I think that was too comical, and lacked the nobility attached to a light saber duel.
And of course, who can complain when Natalie Portman is on screen!!

I've always been facinated by the idea that ST is SW from the Empire's point of view:)

No, I prefer the idea that Blake's 7 is the reality of the Star Trek universe, while the Star Trek series are propaganda films put out by the evil Federation.

I'd rather Trek any day, that's not to say that there isn't a fair bit of crap (especially TNG, 2nd season IMHO).

I've always been facinated by the idea that ST is SW from the Empire's point of view:)
Indeed; I love TNG, but the first couple of seasons stank, more or less, though there were some noteworthy episodes, such as "Q Who?" and "Measure of a Man."
After that, though, they got very good indeed. "Parallels" is a personal favorite of mine.

Anyways, I'll probably end up seeing Star Wars Episode Three in theaters somehow; I did with the first two, both times without paying for the ticket myself.

Yoda's fight scene was AWESOME!!!

I can't wait to see the new DR WHO TV series!!!:D:D:D

I quite liked the fights in the first three. Even though they were quite simple and didn't involve about half an hour of kung-fu, they portrayed, in my mind anyway, a far deeper intensity of the whole thing without the ridiculous cartwheeling, etc.


Also, I fought the whole fact that it is a very medieval story was quite good, and fairly original. That, to me, was a plus side of the movie, that it didn't concern itself with finding "The tachyon gradient of worfs pasty-head, resulting in a burst of... "Thalaron" particles."


Of course, I like Trek and Wars, I just find that Wars is superior in every way.
Although, the reason I hold far more distaste for episode one and two is that they aren't in any way dark, like the original trilogy was. It's just full of jokes that are so horribly forced compared to the original trilogy, and they seem to dominate the entire film.

Yeah . . . isn't episode 3 supposed to be *way* overloaded with CG animation?

Undoubtably, though I'll still go and see it. BWO' got it in one - it's a fairytale with swords, sorcery, princesses and battling knights.

Indeed; I love TNG, but the first couple of seasons stank, more or less, though there were some noteworthy episodes, such as "Q Who?" and "Measure of a Man."
After that, though, they got very good indeed. "Parallels" is a personal favorite of mine.

Anyways, I'll probably end up seeing Star Wars Episode Three in theaters somehow; I did with the first two, both times without paying for the ticket myself.

DS9, Season 1, episode called "Duet" is the only thing on TV that made me cry since Molly died on "A Country Practice.";)

star wars owns the world.

I have nothing else to say

I have nothing else to say

Why does that not surprise me? ;)

Well, since Im one of those sad people who just sort of watches a movie and either likes it or doesnt...I rather liked Star Wars, it has a good plot, and good action, and somehow they both manage to stay out of each others way. It doesnt have HUGE scenes of annoyingly pointless romance/stupid dialoge, it isnt full of meaningless technobable (A hyperdrive, blaster and turbolaser are fairly obvious), and it has a cool badguy.

EP I and II were sucktastic though, EP I was just sort of sub-standard, and EPII had what is quite possibly the worst acting in the history of mainstream movies (IE: Those that appear in theatres for more than two days).
The CG is nice, of course, it means you can have cool battles without tons of extras :)
And it means that Jar Jar can die in some horrible fashion in EP III. Although I imagine that he wont, or that he will die in some stupid way, IE: Trips over Anakin as he crawls out of whatever he falls into after his Obi-Wan fight.

Some of the SW books were good, Children of the Jedi was likeable. The new Yuhuzzan Vong (SP?) books suck...SPOILER! >mostly because Chewbacca died.<
Sorry for the spoilers :P

The whole Star Wars story is based on a medieval world view: the central message of the first film is that it is better to reject reason and rationality and instead embrace some half-baked mystical claptrap.

You have to understand, it is intended to be a sort of legend set in space. It isn't intended to be a manifesto for absolute rationality. I personally think reason is a bit over-rated.I don't believe in material monism or an orderly, purposeful universe.

For the love of humanity, someone please stop George Lucas.

I am playing kotor2 on my x-box and i cant beat this old woman. It makes me so mad. I've adopten the hit and run method but i still haven't had sucsess :(

Does anyone know what happens in the new movie? It is supposed to be a very dark version of Star Wars. My favorite movies are Episode II and Episode VI. My favorite part out of the whole Star Wars sega is the end of the final movie. When the Executor exploded and the chase through the inside of the 2nd Death Star happened I was so thrilled. These two scenes were very good. The speederbike chase was so cool but it was too short.

For the love of humanity, someone please stop George Lucas.

For showing us a vision of the future, I don't think so. He should get a medal and continue to create Star Wars movies.

For showing us a vision of the future, I don't think so. He should get a medal and continue to create Star Wars movies.

If he does he should go back to just making up the story and get some other directors.

For showing us a vision of the future, I don't think so. He should get a medal and continue to create Star Wars movies.
Vision of the future? No; that's what Roddenberry did. Lucas showed us something completely different; after all, as stated at the beginning of every movie..."A long time ago...in a galaxy far, far away..."

I love star wars. Its an epic story about good vrs evil

Does anyone know what happens in the new movie? It is supposed to be a very dark version of Star Wars. My favorite movies are Episode II and Episode VI. My favorite part out of the whole Star Wars sega is the end of the final movie. When the Executor exploded and the chase through the inside of the 2nd Death Star happened I was so thrilled. These two scenes were very good. The speederbike chase was so cool but it was too short.
You...LIKED...episode...two?
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There is no emote for what I am feeling right now. Its sort of hovoring between rage and confusion.

Vision of the future? No; that's what Roddenberry did. Lucas showed us something completely different; after all, as stated at the beginning of every movie..."A long time ago...in a galaxy far, far away..."

What he means is that it might occur one day in our galaxy. No that tere is life in other galaxies.

You...LIKED...episode...two?
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There is no emote for what I am feeling right now. Its sort of hovoring between rage and confusion.
The 2nd one was porley done but i don't think it should be condemed

For showing us a vision of the future, I don't think so. He should get a medal and continue to create Star Wars movies.

For bringing back fun and whimsy to the movies at a time when film was dominated almost entirely by grim reality, yes, I give Lucas props. Along with Kubrick’s 2001 Space Odyssey, Lucas’ Star Wars resulted in a resurrection and renaissance of science fiction movies.

But that was almost 40 years ago. In the intervening years science fiction film has been bled dry of interesting stories and is now driven almost completely by soulless CGI special effects. Even Lucas is cannibalizing his own creativity by churning out forgettable prequels that make better video games than film.

Having recycled all the stories from the golden age of science fiction literature modern sci-fi film (and fantasy, which is what Star Wars really is) is dead. There should be a moratorium on science fiction movies for a few decades until a new generation can start telling real stories again.

I too love Star Wars -- Anyone heard about the possiable TV show

Here it is (http://www.stupidscifi.com/mambo/n210-Star_Wars_TV_SHOW.html)

You...LIKED...episode...two?
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There is no emote for what I am feeling right now. Its sort of hovoring between rage and confusion.

What I liked was all the battle scenes not nesicarily the animation or the acting.

What he means is that it might occur one day in our galaxy. No that tere is life in other galaxies.

What i think "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away" means That it takes place millions of years ago in a galaxy far away from our own.

I loved the original three star wars movies to no end, and with these I still do love the films. When it initially came out I loved Ep. 1, but as time wore on, and I finished middle school, I realized that Ep. 1 was total and utter crap. I mean, hell, whenever you center your story around a stupid 8 year old you're doomed to shittiness. And the obsession with primary and pastel colors now drives me nuts, the real world isn't like that. The real world has grey tones, and there's dirt and stuff all over the place, something that was well represented during the original trilogy, and is quite obvious in the one totally successful trilogy of our time, The Lord of the Rings, where you can see grime everywhere and the world there seems incredibly real.

Ep. 2 was a marked improvement over Ep. 1, but the story was so...lackluster. The acting was mediocre, and Lucas didn't learn from his mistakes, and as such he involved Satan himself in the film once again, Jar-Jar Binks should never be allowed to curse the silver screen ever again. The utter lack of real sets annoyed me as well. Once again, everything seemed excessively clean. Even with the massive improvement though, the film only ranked as "good" in my opinion, a highly forgettable misadventure in mediocrity. Kind of like reading a recent Michael Crichton novel.

I hope for Ep. 3 to fix the foul mistakes of the past. If Jar-Jar isn't in the film it will be so much better than if he is. Also, I hope that lucas doesn't have the film being so unbeleivably clean seeming. And color tone themes also should be avoided.

So, there's my criticism of the Eps. 1 and 2. Let's hope for a good Ep. 3.

My views? They're decent movies, worth watching once in a while. But Star Trek is extremely superior to Star Wars, hands down. Anyone who disagrees with that has no understanding of Star Trek; either that, or they prefer just pure action and fantasy to intellectual, touching stories.

Which Star Trek are you talking about? The original series or all of them? Battle Star Galicita was also very good.

The real world has grey tones, and there's dirt and stuff all over the place, something that was well represented during the original trilogy, and is quite obvious in the one totally successful trilogy of our time, The Lord of the Rings, where you can see grime everywhere and the world there seems incredibly real.

I also enjoyed LOTR. Those movies were awesome. They're my 2nd favorite trilogy after Star Wars.

I also enjoyed LOTR. Those movies were awesome. They're my 2nd favorite trilogy after Star Wars.
Lotr was the best trilogy i can ever remember watching.

I'm probably going to be murdered but.... Did anyone like the Riddick movies?

Lotr was the best trilogy i can ever remember watching.
You havent seen Evil Dead 1,2 and 3 then....

I'm probably going to be murdered but.... Did anyone like the Riddick movies?

I never saw those movies.

I never saw those movies.
I loved them. What is Evil dead?

You havent seen Evil Dead 1,2 and 3 then....

What is that? And hey I thought we were talking about Star Wars here.

The Phantom Menace: Great visuals. Jar Jar was annoying, yes, but let's not forget that Lucas himself claims that the aim is to make movies that make kids go "oooh" and "hahaha!". If anyone's seen The Phantom Edit, it's a much better run of it. All in all my least favourite of the current five.

Attack of the Clones: Well, Hayden Christianson had better shape it up or he may drag down the third installment as well. Still, there are some intese chases, a nice insight into the nature of Boba Fett, and it ends with real fear of what's to come. Plus, some nice Natalie Portman outfits, eh? I rank it 3rd out of 5.

A New Hope: Well, this is the movie that got it started, right? Much more focused on the story than the locations or the technology. A fun adventure, nothing too cutesy, and a lightsaber barfight to boot. I place it at 2nd.

The Empire Strikes Back: Dark, dangerous and on the run. The Empire has a rebel roast on Hoth, Luke goes AWOL to get Jedi, and the Falcon zigzags all over the place in a desperate effort to not be atomized. Just when things seem at their worst, the bottom falls out of the basket as Luke loses his hand and his cool, Han gets freeze-dried, and we leave the movie with the good guys just barely clinging to hope. Number one out of five.

The Return of the Jedi: Everything is right again. The Empire gets beaten, Luke becomes a Jedi, and all that good stuff. Unfortunately, it requires teddy bears to happen. It wasn't bad at all, really, but it wasn't anything that wasn't expected, even though Darth Vader's redemption is a most powerful moment in my mind. When all was said and done, I wanted more, damnit! Fourth out of five, but only because it was sort of a let down to think it was over, I guess.

What will Revenge of the Sith have in store? It seems like it will be just as dark, if not darker than TESB. In the course of the movie, the Jedi council has to dissolve, Yoda has to book it for parts unknown, Anakin has to get his ass whupped and meltified, then be turned into Vader, The Emperor will make his coup, the Republic will dissolve, Queen Amidala will (probably) give birth to twins and then have to ship them away, and R2 and 3PO will have to find some new way to avoid being blasted to smithereens. I anticipate this greatly, at best for a great movie experience, at least for a fill-in-the-blank.



That idea for a Star Wars TV show could really take off...especially if a character with such appeal as Boba Fett were the subject of it. How many shows have we got these days which feature one of the "bad guys" as the main character? But you know what I'd really like to see? Well, I know they're all too old to do it in live action, but what I really would love is to have a 3D installment (maybe even as a miniseries) of the events of Shadows of the Empire. The tech is there to make it extremely lifelike, but I'd even be comfortable with a 2D animated version.

What is that? And hey I thought we were talking about Star Wars here.
Only the most generic (and low budge) seeming horror films ever. Yet, they are still the greatest horror films ever. The first one had like a $1,200 budget, and is totally awesome.

The second one spent it's entire budget on fake blood. By this movie they realized that their movies were not being made to be taken seriously.

And Army of Darkness is the greatest movie ever. It even has a scene that I often say partially inspired Peter Jackson in the making of Helms Deep.

What is that? And hey I thought we were talking about Star Wars here.
So then what shall we talk about? I liked the few sw games i've played. I played sw clone wars, sw Knights of the old republic and i am currently stuck on the second one.

And Army of Darkness is the greatest movie ever.
Ahh, a man(?) after my own heart.

The Phantom Menace: Great visuals. Jar Jar was annoying, yes, but let's not forget that Lucas himself claims that the aim is to make movies that make kids go "oooh" and "hahaha!". If anyone's seen The Phantom Edit, it's a much better run of it. All in all my least favourite of the current five.

Attack of the Clones: Well, Hayden Christianson had better shape it up or he may drag down the third installment as well. Still, there are some intese chases, a nice insight into the nature of Boba Fett, and it ends with real fear of what's to come. Plus, some nice Natalie Portman outfits, eh? I rank it 3rd out of 5.

A New Hope: Well, this is the movie that got it started, right? Much more focused on the story than the locations or the technology. A fun adventure, nothing too cutesy, and a lightsaber barfight to boot. I place it at 2nd.

The Empire Strikes Back: Dark, dangerous and on the run. The Empire has a rebel roast on Hoth, Luke goes AWOL to get Jedi, and the Falcon zigzags all over the place in a desperate effort to not be atomized. Just when things seem at their worst, the bottom falls out of the basket as Luke loses his hand and his cool, Han gets freeze-dried, and we leave the movie with the good guys just barely clinging to hope. Number one out of five.

The Return of the Jedi: Everything is right again. The Empire gets beaten, Luke becomes a Jedi, and all that good stuff. Unfortunately, it requires teddy bears to happen. It wasn't bad at all, really, but it wasn't anything that wasn't expected, even though Darth Vader's redemption is a most powerful moment in my mind. When all was said and done, I wanted more, damnit! Fourth out of five, but only because it was sort of a let down to think it was over, I guess.

What will Revenge of the Sith have in store? It seems like it will be just as dark, if not darker than TESB. In the course of the movie, the Jedi council has to dissolve, Yoda has to book it for parts unknown, Anakin has to get his ass whupped and meltified, then be turned into Vader, The Emperor will make his coup, the Republic will dissolve, Queen Amidala will (probably) give birth to twins and then have to ship them away, and R2 and 3PO will have to find some new way to avoid being blasted to smithereens. I anticipate this greatly, at best for a great movie experience, at least for a fill-in-the-blank.



That idea for a Star Wars TV show could really take off...especially if a character with such appeal as Boba Fett were the subject of it. How many shows have we got these days which feature one of the "bad guys" as the main character? But you know what I'd really like to see? Well, I know they're all too old to do it in live action, but what I really would love is to have a 3D installment (maybe even as a miniseries) of the events of Shadows of the Empire. The tech is there to make it extremely lifelike, but I'd even be comfortable with a 2D animated version.

That is a good idea.
Does anyone know what "Live Action" is. I keep hearing about it on T.V. and haven't really figured out what it is.

So then what shall we talk about? I liked the few sw games i've played. I played sw clone wars, sw Knights of the old republic and i am currently stuck on the second one.

How about Battlefront. That game is amazing. Has anyone else played it?

That is a good idea.
Does anyone know what "Live Action" is. I keep hearing about it on T.V. and haven't really figured out what it is.
lol I liked the cartoon they made on cartoon network i didn't get to see the second half of it though. I have prepared myself for a let down when it come to the next movie. I hope it is good and lucas sticks with the storie instead of trying to please the audiance. (we all know witch one i am talking about)

How about Battlefront. That game is amazing. Has anyone else played it?
I wasn't really interested in playing that one. I'm more of an rpg player than a firstperson shooter.

I wasn't really interested in playing that one. I'm more of an rpg player than a firstperson shooter.

How interesting. I hate turn-based RPGs put simply love RTSs and first person shooters.

In the star wars video game market, NEVER PLAY FORCE COMMANDER.

If you do, you will curse it to no end.

How interesting. I hate turn-based RPGs put simply love RTSs and first person shooters.
Yeah Turn base is annoying. But kotor is still a really excellent game.

That is a good idea.
Does anyone know what "Live Action" is. I keep hearing about it on T.V. and haven't really figured out what it is.
Live action means that a show makes use of actors, as opposed to animations or CGI.

In the star wars video game market, NEVER PLAY FORCE COMMANDER.

If you do, you will curse it to no end.

I have never heard of that game.

I have never heard of that game.
Good, forget I brought it up. That's best for you.

In the star wars video game market, NEVER PLAY FORCE COMMANDER.

If you do, you will curse it to no end.

Amen to that. I absolutely hated Force Commander (oh the lag), bad mechanics, subpar storyline, gah. But not all SW games are so bad, Galactic Battlegrounds was fun (Note: I'm not talking about Battlefront), the X-wing series, culminating in X-wing Alliance was one of my all-time favorite games, and I still play to this day. For my money, it is the best flight game out there still. Battlefront was good, but I rank it with Battlefield Vietnam, it's still not as good as Battlefield 1942, but still prety good (though with its share of bugs). I've never played any of the Jedi Knight games, not sure exactly why.

I know I might be shot, but has anyone played the RTS sw Galactic Battlegrounds?

Only the most generic (and low budge) seeming horror films ever. Yet, they are still the greatest horror films ever. The first one had like a $1,200 budget, and is totally awesome.

The second one spent it's entire budget on fake blood. By this movie they realized that their movies were not being made to be taken seriously.

And Army of Darkness is the greatest movie ever. It even has a scene that I often say partially inspired Peter Jackson in the making of Helms Deep.
And who made them? Mr. Spiderman director himself, Sam Raimi. :)

The whole SW vs. ST thing. I've always prefered SW, at least the aliens were somewhat different from each other as opposed to humans with makeup. That's pretty much the only reason. Episode 2 had few redeeming qualities, the last half hour sort of picked up, and watching Yoda kick ass was pretty sweet. All in all it was a boring cheese-fest, sort of like the second matrix movie.

Of course, none of those games (Well. maybe X-wing: Alliance)comes close to my all-time favorite SW game, Rebellion. I absolutely love that game, in fact I think I'm going to go play it in a bit. Pretty old, out of print, it's still an absolutely awesome game. While it is either overcomplicated or lacking a lot of features (Depending on if your a long-time Grand Strategy gamer or new), once you get to knw how it works, it is absorbing, wow, I really think I need to go play it. Basically it lets you control eiter the Rebel Alliance or Empire after the Battle of Yavin, construct armies, ships, fighters, resource gathering complexes, factories, shipyards. Use diplomacy or military force to sway planets to your side, place your favorite characters in command, Thrawn, Luke, Vader, Mon Mothma, Akbar, they are all there. It's just a great game.

I know I might be shot, but has anyone played the RTS sw Galactic Battlegrounds?

I just mentioned that game, when it come to RTS Galactic Battlegrounds takes the cake for SW (well, it's only real competition was Force Commander, so no surprise), but even then it is still a pretty good RTS. I own both it and Clone campaigns and have hours of fun whenever I feel like a SW RTS experience.

And who made them? Mr. Spiderman director himself, Sam Raimi. :)

The whole SW vs. ST thing. I've always prefered SW, at least the aliens were somewhat different from each other as opposed to humans with makeup. That's pretty much the only reason. Episode 2 had few redeeming qualities, the last half hour sort of picked up, and watching Yoda kick ass was pretty sweet. All in all it was a boring cheese-fest, sort of like the second matrix movie.
I totally agree with you

Army of Darkness is an absolute masterpiece. Now that I think of it, you might be onto something there, Andaluciae. It does have a feel of helms deep in it, if I'm thinking of the same scene. (It really really really is the end part, with the battle, you're talking about... right?)

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And who made them? Mr. Spiderman director himself, Sam Raimi. :)

The whole SW vs. ST thing. I've always prefered SW, at least the aliens were somewhat different from each other as opposed to humans with makeup. That's pretty much the only reason. Episode 2 had few redeeming qualities, the last half hour sort of picked up, and watching Yoda kick ass was pretty sweet. All in all it was a boring cheese-fest, sort of like the second matrix movie.
Of course, and the star was the greates B-Grade movie star of all time: Bruce Campbell.

Of course, none of those games (Well. maybe X-wing: Alliance)comes close to my all-time favorite SW game, Rebellion. I absolutely love that game, in fact I think I'm going to go play it in a bit. Pretty old, out of print, it's still an absolutely awesome game. While it is either overcomplicated or lacking a lot of features (Depending on if your a long-time Grand Strategy gamer or new), once you get to knw how it works, it is absorbing, wow, I really think I need to go play it. Basically it lets you control eiter the Rebel Alliance or Empire after the Battle of Yavin, construct armies, ships, fighters, resource gathering complexes, factories, shipyards. Use diplomacy or military force to sway planets to your side, place your favorite characters in command, Thrawn, Luke, Vader, Mon Mothma, Akbar, they are all there. It's just a great game.

2 Questions:
Can that game still be bought?
What system is it for?

I might add that the best star wars games were the X-Wing games and the SNES games.

You all are too hard on Lucas. These are great movies. I'm an avid Star Wars fan, well, the movies at least. They all kick ass and if I can swing it, I fully intend on being in line for the midnight showing of Episode III on may 19. I enjoyed Episode II also, and on top of that, I enjoyed Episode I. The Episode I lightsaber fight is probably the best choreogrphed of all of them, but you can't deny the coolness of Yoda vs. Dooku in II and I personally think that the Luke vs. Vader fights in Empire and Jedi are actually the best of all of them. Anyway, Star Wars kicks Star Trek's ass. Star Trek just cannot compare to Star Wars. Star Wars is not meant to be any realistic movie in any way, it is fiction after all. I think that the stories and plots are great and I don't think that the acting is bad or cheesy or anything like that. The original Star Wars trilogy is hands down my favorite trilogy of all time and probably my three favorite movies too.

I might add that the best star wars games were the X-Wing games and the SNES games.

I have X-wing vs Tie fighter. It's pretty good but needs a joystick.

You all are too hard on Lucas. These are great movies. I'm an avid Star Wars fan, well, the movies at least. They all kick ass and if I can swing it, I fully intend on being in line for the midnight showing of Episode III on may 19. I enjoyed Episode II also, and on top of that, I enjoyed Episode I. The Episode I lightsaber fight is probably the best choreogrphed of all of them, but you can't deny the coolness of Yoda vs. Dooku in II and I personally think that the Luke vs. Vader fights in Empire and Jedi are actually the best of all of them. Anyway, Star Wars kicks Star Trek's ass. Star Trek just cannot compare to Star Wars. Star Wars is not meant to be any realistic movie in any way, it is fiction after all. I think that the stories and plots are great and I don't think that the acting is bad or cheesy or anything like that. The original Star Wars trilogy is hands down my favorite trilogy of all time and probably my three favorite movies too.

Finally someone who agrees with me. Thank-you.

I tried installing an old X-Wing vs Tie Fighter game on my PC, and it absolutley raped my computer. I had to reformat the hard drive to erase the damage.

Has anyone played jedi acadamy? I was wondering if it is worth getting.

I tried installing an old X-Wing vs Tie Fighter game on my PC, and it absolutley raped my computer. I had to reformat the hard drive to erase the damage.

That never happened to me.

Has anyone played jedi acadamy? I was wondering if it is worth getting.

Never heard nor played it.

2 Questions:
Can that game still be bought?
What system is it for?

It's a PC game, and afaik to find it you have to search pretty hard, I bought mine over 4 years ago, I found it in a Gamestop. I'd guess the internet is your best choice, but it would probably be pretty hard, maybe you can post on some SW gaming forums and hope someone will sell it to you.

It's a PC game, and afaik to find it you have to search pretty hard, I bought mine over 4 years ago, I found it in a Gamestop. I'd guess the internet is your best choice, but it would probably be pretty hard, maybe you can post on some SW gaming forums and hope someone will sell it to you.

Maybe you can show me some screenshots if you have any.

Never heard nor played it.
Its an x-box game

Maybe you can show me some screenshots if you have any.

I have no where to host any if I knew how to take them, but the official sie has some screenshots http://www.lucasarts.com/products/rebellion/

I tried installing an old X-Wing vs Tie Fighter game on my PC, and it absolutley raped my computer. I had to reformat the hard drive to erase the damage.
I wish I could install it on my new computer, but there's several things wrong with that.

1. My new computer lacks a disk drive.
2. Disc 2 is missing.

although...I'd bet it's on limewire...

Limewire?

Limewire?
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On the topic of the movies, I really liked the originals. The new ones... well, they just sucked. To me they more or less chronicle Lucas' descent into madness. On a side note I personally think he ruined the character of Boba Fett in Episode II (He looks like an Oompa Loompa).

On the topic of the old movies, anyone else here think that the Empire wasn't evil? I mean they represented law, order, and stability, while the Rebels used criminals, terror tactics, and so forth. Besides, the Empire would've (And should've) won hands down in the first movie (The torpedo probably would've been disintigrated in the reactor, or so I would imagine).

On the topic of the movies, I really liked the originals. The new ones... well, they just sucked. To me they more or less chronicle Lucas' descent into madness. On a side note I personally think he ruined the character of Boba Fett in Episode II (He looks like an Oompa Loompa).

On the topic of the old movies, anyone else here think that the Empire wasn't evil? I mean they represented law, order, and stability, while the Rebels used criminals, terror tactics, and so forth. Besides, the Empire would've (And should've) won hands down in the first movie (The torpedo probably would've been disintigrated in the reactor, or so I would imagine).

These things are true but I have one explanation for this: It was fiction. It was not supposed to be real.

On the topic of the movies, I really liked the originals. The new ones... well, they just sucked. To me they more or less chronicle Lucas' descent into madness. On a side note I personally think he ruined the character of Boba Fett in Episode II (He looks like an Oompa Loompa).

On the topic of the old movies, anyone else here think that the Empire wasn't evil? I mean they represented law, order, and stability, while the Rebels used criminals, terror tactics, and so forth. Besides, the Empire would've (And should've) won hands down in the first movie (The torpedo probably would've been disintigrated in the reactor, or so I would imagine).

Order and stability?

like the british in 1760?

or the French in Libiya?

or Hitler in Poland?

the who thing is full of holes.

the Rebles could have cut out as soon as they found out the empire was after them. and the Empire would have sent Star destroyers to cover the death star. Vader was in a TIE w/o hyperdrive, how does he survive. what compels han to help out Luke? how come the mightry rebellion has 20 little ships tpo fight with?

Here's an idea: George Lucas picks Sam Raimi to be one of his assistant directors for another SW film. If nothing else, we'd get to see Bruce Campbell in a Star Wars film. Better yet, make him the star!

Does anyone have a problem with this?

Originally Posted by Socalist Peoples
the who thing is full of holes.

the Rebles could have cut out as soon as they found out the empire was after them. and the Empire would have sent Star destroyers to cover the death star. Vader was in a TIE w/o hyperdrive, how does he survive. what compels han to help out Luke? how come the mightry rebellion has 20 little ships tpo fight with?
The Death Star was thought to be invincible, so they didn't want to waste expensive Star Destroyers on a ship that didn't need protecting.

Vader could have simply flown away from the battle and gone into a Jedi trance until Imperial reinforcements rescued him. Also, he might have mentally called out to the Emperor for help.

Han felt fond of the farmboy who was in over his head, and he was also hoping to score some points with the Princess. Most importantly, Han is a noble guy deep down, so he came back to help.

As for the 20 little ships, I haven't counted the vessels in any of the movies, but I can think of an answer for "A New Hope." The small number of ships were all that the small base on Yavin 4 could muster. The Rebels existed as small cells for guerilla warfare, not a singular army. Perhaps the larger or more numerous fleets were at other Rebel posts around the Galaxy.

Vader was in a TIE w/o hyperdrive, how does he survive.
His TIE was an advanced prototype model with limited hyperdrive.
Come on, man!

The Empire Strikes Back was probably as good as it’s going to get for Star Wars films. This latest pack of special effects over story is just aweful. C3PO pretty much ruined the film with constant bad puns and my DVD player isn’t advanced enough to cut out those segments. I thought that the Obi Wan storyline in Clones was well done but the romance resembled what happened when a geek wrote romance: very, very bad. I’ll watch the last movie and just hope that they don’t screw it up like the last two movies: either Jar Jared or C3Poed.

The Bruce

My favorite was the Return of the Jedi. It had amazing special FX and battle scenes.

My favorite was the Return of the Jedi. It had amazing special FX and battle scenes.
'Except for the scene in the rancor pit in Jabba's palace,' is a necessary qualification to that FX statement. For its time, it was reasonably well done. It's almost too painful to look at now.

'Except for the scene in the rancor pit in Jabba's palace,' is a necessary qualification to that FX statement. For its time, it was reasonably well done. It's almost too painful to look at now.
Ya got that right. That was the one scene I was really hoping Lucas could clean up with the special editions.

Ya got that right. That was the one scene I was really hoping Lucas could clean up with the special editions.
I think he cleaned it up as much as he could, without completely reshooting the scene it would be pretty difficult.

It's not the best scene but it was well done at the time it was made.

I'm probably going to be murdered but.... Did anyone like the Riddick movies?
I just watched the Chronicles of Riddick. Loved it!

The first three films were entertaining enough when I was a kid, but seeing them again they are pretty much laughable. Together with Steven Spielberg, George Lucas crippled the intellect of the American film industry with their production of spectacle movies which had little or no content and little relation to the actual world we live in.
The reason many people go to the movies is to ESCAPE from the actual world we live in.

I just watched the Chronicles of Riddick. Loved it!
For some reason that movie reminded me of Conan, the Barbarian. Not a bad thing really. In the last scene when Riddick was sitting on the throne, all I could think was: "One day he would become king by his own hand..."

I like SW soundtrack. It's so deep and grand. Reminds me of Back To The Future's soundtrack, which I loved too.

loved starwars all of them can't wait intill number three is out and darthvader is back in action!!!!!!!!

StarWars was the best film of them all, absolutely brilliant film, Empire was OK, very good towards the end, Return was just embarressing, those bloody ewoks, and the latest crap is just so devoid of real acting, talk about wooden, the storylines are boring and not well constructed, and the films rely way too much on CGs, Lucas, you should have quit after the first one.

His TIE was an advanced prototype model with limited hyperdrive.
Come on, man!

I am so glad you said that. Otherwise I would have had to, and that would have just been embarrassing. :p