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Anyone like football here?

Probably.

American football or soccer?

Dual answer

American football - No
Soccer - Yes

Dual answer

American football - No
Soccer - Yes
Agreed. Especially EPL, even though I rarely get to see it.

American Football - Very much so.
Soccer- No.

I am bias having grown up in the United States I love American football it is my favorite of sports.

Soccer, Well after I watched my 1st game and it was a total blowout I think the score was like 1-0 I just couldn't appreciate it. ;) Since people do not know me here I am being facetious. :) Though I really cannot get into soccer it is an excellant game played by tremendous athletes.

I love watching football. Since my team is the vikings, i end up watching a lot of other games cuz just rootin for the vikings can be a short season seeing as they mess it up year after year. I'll watch if there's a packers game but i cheer for the opposing team. ;)

I just listened to george carlin's "football vs baseball" routine, it's pretty funny.

American or the rest of the worlds?

Hey guys
Football = Football
American Football = American Football

forums2.jolt.co.uk
Why do you ask? :D

I like Freddie in Arsenal, he is the king of London :p
and I also like Barcelona in the Spanish League.

I dont like football, but I like American Football better because its closer to rugby

I love watching football. Since my team is the vikings, i end up watching a lot of other games cuz just rootin for the vikings can be a short season seeing as they mess it up year after year. I'll watch if there's a packers game but i cheer for the opposing team. ;)

I just listened to george carlin's "football vs baseball" routine, it's pretty funny.

So you'll be cheering doubly hard today then.

Football? Yes to all, including aussie rules, rugby union, rugby league and gaelic.

Hey guys
Football = Football
American Football = American Football

forums2.jolt.co.uk
Why do you ask? :D

I like Freddie in Arsenal, he is the king of London :p
and I also like Barcelona in the Spanish League.

Sorry Football is any sport which calls itself football, whether you, I or anyone else agrees or not. American Football is simply called football in America.

If you are from the UK and support the Gunners, are you going to support Chelsea or Barca in the UCL?

I love sport, esp American Football. It is the perfect team game, every team member must do their job in order to win, yes even the lowly placekicker. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

Go Eagles!!!!

"American football"?? That is like rugby with armor, right? :p

I will support Barca in that game, and I'm not from the UK.

Please remember that Football is the game played all over the world. When you talk with the world Football is Football, American Football is American Football. Please don't mix things up.

How did it all start? There are lots of fact here: http://www.fifa.com
"The contemporary history of football spans more than 100 years. It all began in 1863 in England, when rugby football and association football branched off on their different courses and the world's first football association was founded - The Football Association in England."
Source: http://www.fifa.com/en/history/history/0,1283,1,00.html
(a fascinated read about the 2000 year long history of the game)

"Derived from the English game of rugby, American football was started in 1879 with rules instituted by Walter Camp, player and coach at Yale University."
Source: http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfootball.htm
So it is really american rugby. But let's call it American football. ;)

"American football"?? That is like rugby with armor, right? :p

NO!

I"Derived from the English game of rugby, American football was started in 1879 with rules instituted by Walter Camp, player and coach at Yale University."
Source: http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfootball.htm
So it is really american rugby. But let's call it American football. ;)


It is nothing close to Rugby anymore.

"American football"?? That is like rugby with armor, right? :p

Yep, some yank went to a rugby match thinking he was watching football and when he brought it to America they decided they would need helmets and padding or the players would sue everytime they got hurt :D

I will support Barca in that game, and I'm not from the UK.

Please remember that Football is the game played all over the world. When you talk with the world Football is Football, American Football is American Football. Please don't mix things up.

How did it all start? There are lots of fact here: http://www.fifa.com
"The contemporary history of football spans more than 100 years. It all began in 1863 in England, when rugby football and association football branched off on their different courses and the world's first football association was founded - The Football Association in England."
Source: http://www.fifa.com/en/history/history/0,1283,1,00.html
(a fascinated read about the 2000 year long history of the game)

"Derived from the English game of rugby, American football was started in 1879 with rules instituted by Walter Camp, player and coach at Yale University."
Source: http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfootball.htm
So it is really american rugby. But let's call it American football. ;)


Football, actually is much older than fifa claim, look up calcio or the history of ball games in England and Germany. However, the point was not that one sport has the "copyright" to the name, but simply that football means different things to different people.

Oh, and sorry for the presumption that you were in the UK. Had something to do with the reference to the .uk site and London.

It is nothing close to Rugby anymore.

Having played all three, they have some similarities. (Gridiron and Rugby)

Yes I love the game. Shrewsbury Town FC - League 2 (old div 4)
The grass roots of the beautiful game.

Yep, some yank went to a rugby match thinking he was watching football and when he brought it to America they decided they would need helmets and padding or the players would sue everytime they got hurt :D

Ok, let's end this whole padding debate once and for all. The average College American Football player is hit harder then the average Rugby player during play. Now if American football players didn't wear helmets, and pads, teams would lose so many players that they couldn't field a team every week. Now when you have a 300 lb defensive tackle (who can run the 40 yeard dash in 4.6 sec or better) running full bore at the quarterback (who is standing in the pocket, looking for a receiver), someone is going to get hurt severly if they don't have some sort of protective gear.

Now until the Rugby players are as big and as fast as American Football players, they do not need padding. Heck when a receiver goes on a crossing pattern play, there are usually two DB's waiting to put a big hit on them.

I do have problems with some of todays pro-players, and that is that they seem to forget the fundamentals of the game, ie tackling. Too many players go for the big hit instead of wrapping their arms around the player and tackling them. Also the TV coverage is terrible. What the hell is with having the glowing first down line? Why do they always have so many graphics between plays, have them pan the audience like they used too. Also why have the players gotten so thuggish. Are they trying to imitate the gangsta mentality of the NBA? Thankfully the NFL enforces their rules on their players.

Having played all three, they have some similarities. (Gridiron and Rugby)

Sorry but no one here calls it Gridiron! ;)

Ok, let's end this whole padding debate once and for all. The average College American Football player is hit harder then the average Rugby player during play. Now if American football players didn't wear helmets, and pads, teams would lose so many players that they couldn't field a team every week. Now when you have a 300 lb defensive tackle (who can run the 40 yeard dash in 4.6 sec or better) running full bore at the quarterback (who is standing in the pocket, looking for a receiver), someone is going to get hurt severly if they don't have some sort of protective gear.

Now until the Rugby players are as big and as fast as American Football players, they do not need padding. Heck when a receiver goes on a crossing pattern play, there are usually two DB's waiting to put a big hit on them.

I do have problems with some of todays pro-players, and that is that they seem to forget the fundamentals of the game, ie tackling. Too many players go for the big hit instead of wrapping their arms around the player and tackling them. Also the TV coverage is terrible. What the hell is with having the glowing first down line? Why do they always have so many graphics between plays, have them pan the audience like they used too. Also why have the players gotten so thuggish. Are they trying to imitate the gangsta mentality of the NBA? Thankfully the NFL enforces their rules on their players.


OK. The current Professional/College AF player is bigger and stronger than rugby players were when the game was amateur. However the game is now professional which means that the players are using the same techniques to become bigger, stronger and faster that the AF players use. (No comment as to what these are!) As I have said, I played both, not at the top levels, but with reasonable success. I weighed, when I was playing 18st 7lbs. (259 lbs) but I was far from the biggest or heaviest player on the rugby team. I played blind side flanker, which is roughly equivalent to a linebacker/full back position in size and weight. I could also run 40 yards in the 45s so the speed is equivalent. The point is that AF introduced head and shoulder protection (helmet and pads) which were originally like the scrum caps and shoulder padding currently seen in rugby, softish and semi flexible. However the protection became harder and heavier, so more protection (ribs, thighs, etc.) is needed to protect you from the protection itself.

The physical skills and abilities required are similar but I do not think that a professional AF player would do very well in modern rugby, nor would a rugby player do well in professional AF (except possibly as a kicker or punter). Neither sport is superior to the other, nor does one demand better athletes than the other. They simply place diferent demands on their atheletes.

Sorry but no one here calls it Gridiron! ;)

Simply to save typing American Football all the time.

Simply to save typing American Football all the time.

Ok, then go for it!

Yes too both.

I like both types of football (American football and football).

Though I think we should just rename American football. I mean, I understand why soccer is called football. You use your feet most of the time. But American football? I can think of three situations where you use your feet:

- Punts
- Field goals
- Kickoffs

Wait, make that four:
- That free kick after safeties

NOT VERY OFTEN. Why don't they call it 'throwball' or 'runball' or something equally retarded sounding but making sense.

GO EAGLES WOO WOO WOO.

Anyone like football here?
It's alright. Anyone see Exeter Vs Man U? Go Exeter!!! :D (Never thought I'd say go Exeter! PAFC fan!. We should've held Everton to a draw!)

Just your normal Leeds United fan whose team got beaten 3-0 by Birmingham City ...

To those who haven't, I would strongly suggest continuing to not watch the American soccer/football, Major League Soccer. The players are mediocre, the games are sparcely attended, and I think that the MLS is defiling the sport by being so shitty. I would rather watch hockey, the second-worst sport ever.

I don't mind soccer, but I can't stand what we call football where I live (Rugby League)

I don't mind soccer, but I can't stand what we call football where I live (Rugby League)
Errr...Rugby League is Rugby, not football.

Go Dioufyyyy Dioufy Dioufy Dioufy..

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and Score score score!

It's alright. Anyone see Exeter Vs Man U? Go Exeter!!! :D (Never thought I'd say go Exeter! PAFC fan!. We should've held Everton to a draw!)

Cos Plymouth are shite :p

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