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I'm not sure about other nations but i think the education system here pretty much sucks, and i dunno about other states but here in florida it sucks more then a hoover. Right now i'm in high school in 10th grade and in all honor classes but yet there is no challenge and i'm bored out of my mind. some of the problem seems to be that (here in florida) we've taken our time out of the core academics to "study" for the FCAT (Florida Comphensive Assement Test). Why? b/c the schools who get high marks tend to get something extra in the spending fund for next year. So every week we have to read at least once in all our 7 classes for the whole class hour. ok but thats not it is seems in my school that people who just don't give a dam tend to be the onces getting extra attendion. I think if u don't give a dam about school and by the time ur 16 it shows then get the fuck out and make room for those who do want to learn. Everyday i wake up and i dreed going to school b/c its just a day care with sex (well that makes it worth getting up). It seems by keeping those who don't want to be there in school then ur lowering the standards and by focuseing all ur efforts on one test that comes only once a-year then ur doing more harm then good. if ur going to spend all ur time on one test shouldn't it be a truely important one like the SAT's. dude i took the PSATs not too long ago and i barely got 100 points but yet i got a B GPA. I think we have a problem maybe i'm just bitchin with no reason but i am truely not learnin anything in school anymore, i learn more from T.V. and this forum then SPHS. :(

You can get alot out of being "self taught." By this I do not mean home-schooled, or anything to that extent. Rather, get something interesting out of school, and start to study that on the side. Given you have to do the necessary work at school to get your grades, but then you can master some other area. This goes into University level classes as well, the teachers give you a reading list, and general tests and homework, sometimes even papers. However, there is plenty of time to find something of the class you like, then look at the bibliography from that material, find out their sources, and start working your way backwards. Then, not only are you learning the material, but you understand how the author came to their premise, and you are reading the same material they were reading when they wrote the book, which can be interesting. That or look for the liberal bias in all your classes, and become pre-occupied with why the educational system is going down the tubes. Just a thought.

I'm not sure about other nations but i think the education system here pretty much sucks, and i dunno about other states but here in florida it sucks more then a hoover. Right now i'm in high school in 10th grade and in all honor classes but yet there is no challenge and i'm bored out of my mind. some of the problem seems to be that (here in florida) we've taken our time out of the core academics to "study" for the FCAT (Florida Comphensive Assement Test). Why? b/c the schools who get high marks tend to get something extra in the spending fund for next year. So every week we have to read at least once in all our 7 classes for the whole class hour. ok but thats not it is seems in my school that people who just don't give a dam tend to be the onces getting extra attendion. I think if u don't give a dam about school and by the time ur 16 it shows then get the fuck out and make room for those who do want to learn. Everyday i wake up and i dreed going to school b/c its just a day care with sex (well that makes it worth getting up). It seems by keeping those who don't want to be there in school then ur lowering the standards and by focuseing all ur efforts on one test that comes only once a-year then ur doing more harm then good. if ur going to spend all ur time on one test shouldn't it be a truely important one like the SAT's. dude i took the PSATs not too long ago and i barely got 100 points but yet i got a B GPA. I think we have a problem maybe i'm just bitchin with no reason but i am truely not learnin anything in school anymore, i learn more from T.V. and this forum then SPHS. :(

It appears that the Florida education system does not teach students how to spell.

It appears that the Florida education system does not teach students how to spell.

Hey no kidding. Right now Florida schools are a test drill for the FCAT at the end of the year, it drives my son up the wall. He says he hasn't studied a new subject since he was in a UK school when we lived over there.

It's all endless boring test drills like you where stuck in a SAT prep course for an entire year

Try home-schooling. I was home-schooled grades 10-12. It worked for me. :)

It appears that the Florida education system does not teach students how to spell.


and the best part is i got an A in english, i dunno if it's b/c i'm passionit about wat i wright about (only some times, for example mice and men sparked a flame in me) or it might be b/c i flirt with the teacher.

Hey no kidding. Right now Florida schools are a test drill for the FCAT at the end of the year, it drives my son up the wall. He says he hasn't studied a new subject since he was in a UK school when we lived over there.

It's all endless boring test drills like you where stuck in a SAT prep course for an entire year
its like that in every state in every school

and the best part is i got an A in english, i dunno if it's b/c i'm passionit about wat i wright about (only some times, for example mice and men sparked a flame in me) or it might be b/c i flirt with the teacher.

I'd hate to see the spelling of someone who failed English at your school.

I'd hate to see the spelling of someone who failed English at your school.


God u can't even read their hand writing. They to need a truck load of Riddlin to stay on topic, and the simple sentences are just that SIMPLE. (Da kat got sumwere in up the teery)

its like that in every state in every school


The SATs mean something, they help u get into a go college. I'm still trying to figure out how the dam FCAT help me get into college.

The thing is, I'm one of the most educated teenagers in the school, and that's not because of the school system itself; it's because I have taught myself most of this knowledge. I've always sought out knowledge and hardly ever gain anything truly unknown to me from school, beyond the subject I might look up. If we could get our education system to the point where everyone could learn what I learn in school itself, we'd be much better off.

The SATs mean something, they help u get into a go college. I'm still trying to figure out how the dam FCAT help me get into college.
They don't, sort of like the regents here in new york, but we get them in different topics so I'd imagine the fcats are even worse.

You need to pass them to graduate from high school, the same way, I imagine, that NY State youngsters need to pass the Regents exams in each subject to get their diploma.

You need to pass them to graduate from high school, the same way, I imagine, that NY State youngsters need to pass the Regents exams in each subject to get their diploma.


yea and u need 40 volentree hours and 32 creds. so if u pass the fcat with the highest score u can still not graduate.

Seriously? Man, considering my district is consider pretty high up there in terms of school ratings (in the 200s i think, not amazing, but pretty damn good), that scares me a little. 22 credits, no volunteer hours (required anyways) to graduate.

its like that in every state in every school
Actually, outside of the city itself, chicago area schools are pretty good.

I'm not sure about other nations but i think the education system here pretty much sucks, and i dunno about other states but here in florida it sucks more then a hoover. Right now i'm in high school in 10th grade and in all honor classes but yet there is no challenge and i'm bored out of my mind. some of the problem seems to be that (here in florida) we've taken our time out of the core academics to "study" for the FCAT (Florida Comphensive Assement Test). Why? b/c the schools who get high marks tend to get something extra in the spending fund for next year. So every week we have to read at least once in all our 7 classes for the whole class hour. ok but thats not it is seems in my school that people who just don't give a dam tend to be the onces getting extra attendion. I think if u don't give a dam about school and by the time ur 16 it shows then get the fuck out and make room for those who do want to learn. Everyday i wake up and i dreed going to school b/c its just a day care with sex (well that makes it worth getting up). It seems by keeping those who don't want to be there in school then ur lowering the standards and by focuseing all ur efforts on one test that comes only once a-year then ur doing more harm then good. if ur going to spend all ur time on one test shouldn't it be a truely important one like the SAT's. dude i took the PSATs not too long ago and i barely got 100 points but yet i got a B GPA. I think we have a problem maybe i'm just bitchin with no reason but i am truely not learnin anything in school anymore, i learn more from T.V. and this forum then SPHS. :(

I learned everything I've covered in school at home before. I took the SATs in 6th grade, and got 760-something on verbal and 720-something on math. At least if they still score them that way...
I never gave a flying fuck about school, but in many cases getting out doesn't work when Daddy-dearest is a conservative Catholic doctor that wnts you to grow up to be like him.
"Day-care with sex"- Holy shit! I was about to say that exact same thing util I read your post more and saw that! That's exactly how I feel.

The thing is, I'm one of the most educated teenagers in the school, and that's not because of the school system itself; it's because I have taught myself most of this knowledge. I've always sought out knowledge and hardly ever gain anything truly unknown to me from school, beyond the subject I might look up. If we could get our education system to the point where everyone could learn what I learn in school itself, we'd be much better off.

PIcarRDMPCia, if there were some way of magically making all students as interested in learning as you, the educational system would be much better off. Unfortunately, this seems not to be the case. Let me begin by observing that it's very obvious from this forum that there are plenty of intelligent teens out there -- but it seems that it's so very uncool to be educated that it's hardly visible in the classroom.

Teachers have to compete against MP3 players plugged perpetually into students' ears, cell phones with text messaging, students who pull out the newspaper and read in class yet complain bitterly that the teacher "hates them" when they repeatedly demonstrate their complete lack of understanding on essays and tests, students who cannot be bothered to set their alarm to come to class on time (and who live across the street from the darned school, to boot!), and students who simply will not complete any homework, classword or projects whatsoever and who then complain that they are bored. Of course some students are bored; by and large, there are a large number of them who have not bothered to exercise their reason for years. They sit, they sleep, they walk the halls in 30 minute bathroom breaks, and then they complain that the school system has failed them.

Teachers then have to balance this out with being one part politician, one part diplomat, three parts educator, three parts stand-up comic, and being worried that they will be punished for being in a school where the students do not perform well on standardized tests. After all, the conservative bankers, lawyers and businessmen in charge of the US educational system think thusly: if some students are not achieving, then make it easier for everyone. If achievement falls off more, make it even simpler. This of course has resulted in the insulting blandness and lack of challenge you are witnessing in your classes.

I hope it saddens you to hear that some of the teachers who DO treat you as if you are intelligent, thinking human beings are called on the carpet for "expecting too much" and are written up for not following the "official policy".

This does not even touch upon the "rights" of students who are violent and disruptive to remain in the classroom and prevent others who are genuinely interested in learning from reaching a higher level of achievement.

Student apathy and resistance to join class conversations, discussion groups, et cetera harm the ability of the whole class class to also become involved in more cerebral discussions. Worse still, is that there is absolutely no recognition that students themselves bear responsibility for their education -- unlike your case. Many act as if "educated" means merely by virtue of the fact that they sat and breathed in a room for a certain period of time.

I will admit there are things in the education system that can and should be changed. I believe that there should be fewer students in the classroom -- an optimal number would be a ratio of 1:15, which is unrealistic -- but 1:20 or so would give teachers and students a much more personalized experience, where each student could get more individualized instruction. 1:34 or higher is simply not in anyone's best interests.

However, in any overhaul of the education system, a respect for education and some motivation to work from the students and their parents is necessary. Teachers are already well-educated -- most systems I have heard of require a teacher to achieve a masters degree in their area, with continuing education. A willingness of students to be open minded and to do the very basic things they are asked -- to read twenty pages, to write four paragraphs about them, to ask questions and to express one's own opinions -- these too are necessary for reform.

LOL, I'll probably wish I had proofed this once it's submitted.....