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USS San Francisco Runs Aground off Guam

Right thinking whites
08-01-2005, 17:42
USS San Francisco Runs Aground off Guam
Story Number: NNS050108-01
Release Date: 1/8/2005 8:31:00 AM



From U.S. Pacific Fleet Public Affairs

PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii (NNS) -- The Los Angeles-class submarine USS San Francisco (SSN 711) ran aground while conducting submerged operations approximately 350 miles south of the island of Guam today.

The incident occurred at approximately 4 p.m., Jan. 7, Hawaii Standard Time (12 noon, Jan. 8, Guam Time).

The extent of the injuries and damage aboard San Francisco is still being assessed, but includes one critical injury and several other lesser injuries. The submarine is on the surface and is making best speed back to their homeport in Guam.

There were no reports of damage to the reactor plant which is operating normally.

Military and Coast Guard aircraft are enroute to monitor and assist in the situation.

Further releases and announcements will be made as information becomes available.

For further updates and information, please contact the U.S. Pacific Fleet Public Affairs Office at (808) 471-3769.
(http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=16549) being on a sub i know this is extremly rare and hard to do, there are many diffrent ways to see depth though i dont know how they work. i do know that some one will probably be fired. also it is my thoughts that the person that is criticly injured either was on a ladder or in thier rack during the time of the accedent.
Johnny Wadd
08-01-2005, 17:57
being on a sub i know this is extremly rare and hard to do, there are many diffrent ways to see depth though i dont know how they work. i do know that some one will probably be fired. also it is my thoughts that the person that is criticly injured either was on a ladder or in thier rack during the time of the accedent.

Somebody was definately asleep at the wheel so to speak. Probably the sonar officer. Heads will roll for this.

Perhaps something was wrong with the rudder or whatnot?
Fass
08-01-2005, 17:59
At least they hit ground and not another Japanese fishery training ship. Hello, Ehime Maru! ;)

Seriously though, I hope they're all OK.
Daistallia 2104
08-01-2005, 18:13
At least they hit ground and not another Japanese fishery training ship. Hello, Ehime Maru! ;)

Seriously though, I hope they're all OK.

(>.<) OUCH!!! Hey, I was here when that accident happened. It wasn't fun.
Right thinking whites
08-01-2005, 18:25
Somebody was definately asleep at the wheel so to speak. Probably the sonar officer. Heads will roll for this.

Perhaps something was wrong with the rudder or whatnot?
but the helmsmen would have the soundings light i believe










(note to all i work back aft)
Andaluciae
08-01-2005, 18:26
no matter what, someone was being a serious go-tard on this.
Jeruselem
08-01-2005, 18:28
You can blame your equipment, but nothing goes wrong so badly like human error! :p
Underemployed Pirates
08-01-2005, 18:57
A few years ago, my daughter backed my truck into my driveway and knocked over my '81 Suzuki GS1100. She blamed in incident on the fact that the truck's tailgate was up (I leave it down fairly often to get better gas mileage on long trips) and so she didn't see what was behind her (neglecting the fact that she had walked out the back door and had walked passt the motorcycle in the driveway on her way to get into the truck).

Well, she ended up getting getting a new '00 Saturn so she could take it to college. Meanwhile, I'm still riding a rather banged up 24 year old motorcycle.
Right thinking whites
08-01-2005, 20:05
A few years ago, my daughter backed my truck into my driveway and knocked over my '81 Suzuki GS1100. She blamed in incident on the fact that the truck's tailgate was up (I leave it down fairly often to get better gas mileage on long trips) and so she didn't see what was behind her (neglecting the fact that she had walked out the back door and had walked passt the motorcycle in the driveway on her way to get into the truck).

Well, she ended up getting getting a new '00 Saturn so she could take it to college. Meanwhile, I'm still riding a rather banged up 24 year old motorcycle.
no promos happening i pretty damn sure, i'll see what i can find out later when i'm off leave
Lunatic Goofballs
08-01-2005, 20:41
HUman error.

It would have taken a loss of several systems at once. Even then, with that many equipment malfunctions, they just wouldn't plow ahead.

Gotta be human error. In fact, I would surmise it would take more than one human's error.

The CO is out of a ship. No matter who else gets blamed, he's still done with submarine command. Period.
IDF
08-01-2005, 20:54
I read somehwere that the charts used on US SSN's are for surface ships and not accurate. Besides the point, the geological activity could've caused something on the ocean floor to move or a sandbar could've naturally developped.

Despite this, the sounding gear should've prevented this. I'll bet the CO and XO just ended their careers regardless if it was their fault or not. This is just speculation, but the CO could've been running deeper than was safe in the conditions. I believe that during peace times that they tell the crews to stay 50 feet above the depth on their charts whenever possible.
Right thinking whites
08-01-2005, 21:07
i believe we use soundings along with the charts and gps
unfortunitly i never went out on the fast boat i was on, but i did go out on a boommer