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Best debater on NS?

Branin
07-01-2005, 05:43
This is to figure out who, in the opinion of the genral populace, is the best debator on NS. Please choose on who makes presents their points the best, with the best logic, most credibility, etc... not on who you most agree with. So who is it?
Meaning
07-01-2005, 05:45
I am. I'm the master. I'm the master debater :rolleyes: :D
Colodia
07-01-2005, 05:46
Ironically, one would have to debate to be assured that his/her person will be defined as the "Best Debator"

although there is no such thing
Nation of Fortune
07-01-2005, 05:49
Ironically, one would have to debate to be assured that his/her person will be defined as the "Best Debator"

although there is no such thing
agreed
Gnostikos
07-01-2005, 05:50
Dempublicents is the first one that comes to my mind. His knowledge on subjects makes him very authoritative in my mind, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for him.
Norleans
07-01-2005, 05:52
This is to figure out who, in the opinion of the genral populace, is the best debator on NS. Please choose on who makes presents their points the best, with the best logic, most credibility, etc... not on who you most agree with. So who is it?

I am the master debater, although it appears you are a Cunning Linguist.
Meaning
07-01-2005, 05:54
I am the master debater, although it appears you are a Cunning Linguist.


i challenge u to a masterdebater contest....... but later i'm tired now :p
Norleans
07-01-2005, 05:55
i challenge u to a masterdebater contest....... but later i'm tired now :p

:D :D :D
Whest and Kscul
07-01-2005, 05:59
AnarchyLE and Dempublicants (sp? for both of them :D ) comes to mind first this, though Dem can be tempermental at times...
AAhhzz
07-01-2005, 06:00
Not certain "Best" is a very good term in this regaurd.

But I have to say that East Canuck and Cornilue (sp?) are two that I have throughly enjoyed discussing things with.

I certainly dont agree with East Canuck's veiwpoint, but I have to admit that he makes his points well and on a few occasions I have had to acknowledge that he was right. When I have done so he has not tried to "twist the knife" nor performed any victory dances, at least not here anyway....*blinking furiously to try to block a very scary mental image*

Also East Canuck is honorable enough to admit when the shoe in on the other foot, and does so as gracefully.

Dempublicents also makes their points well, and as far as I have seen, does not descend into flamming make them stick. An intellegent and thoughtful person. However I dont believe that I have had a discussion with Dempublicants at lenght yet, just few passing remarks.

Cornilue makes his points well and maintains his cool even when flamed pretty throughly by people who are using less than half the wit and logic he is, something I fear I could not do.

So those are my two favorites and one I think is likely to be as good, and I respect all of them.

AAhhzz
Deltaepsilon
07-01-2005, 06:25
Berkylvania used to be. I'm not sure who is anymore, but Bodies Without Organs is up there, and so is Bottle.
Gnostikos
07-01-2005, 06:26
and so is Bottle
Ah yes, Bottle and Dobbs Town are both pretty good as well. I had forgotten about them.
Cannot think of a name
07-01-2005, 06:29
Incertonia, Zeppistan, and Bottle
Keruvalia
07-01-2005, 06:41
I had chicken for dinner.
Kanabia
07-01-2005, 06:41
Incertonia, Zeppistan, and Bottle

Yeah, pretty much. Throw in Psylos too, he's always there to back up his beliefs.
Hamanistan
07-01-2005, 06:47
No such thing as Best Debater, I call them Best Flammer becasue thats what ALL debates on NS turn out to be, Flames.
Boonytopia
07-01-2005, 07:10
I haven't been around that long, so I haven't seen all the debates, but I have been impressed with some of Bodies Without Organs' arguments.
Greedy Pig
07-01-2005, 08:11
I used to enjoy Iokeokeo debating. Though he belittles people. And got kicked long time ago though. :D

I'm sure lots of Socialist and Communist here would hate his guts. But he's funny! :p

DeaconDave!! Who remembers DeaconDave?
Krygar
07-01-2005, 08:22
I nominate Green Justice.
Lashie
07-01-2005, 08:31
I like debating but i wouldn't say that i'm always good at it. its easier for me to debate in person than it is over the net... anyone else find that?
AnarchyeL
07-01-2005, 08:35
I used to enjoy Iokeokeo debating. Though he belittles people. And got kicked long time ago though. :D

I'm sure lots of Socialist and Communist here would hate his guts. But he's funny! :p

DeaconDave!! Who remembers DeaconDave?

DeaconDave was all right by me... He got a little testy when he felt like he was losing, but overall he was pretty smart.
AnarchyeL
07-01-2005, 08:36
I haven't been around that long, so I haven't seen all the debates, but I have been impressed with some of Bodies Without Organs' arguments.

I second that. Bodies Without Organs is pretty good!
La Terra di Liberta
07-01-2005, 08:37
I like debating but i wouldn't say that i'm always good at it. its easier for me to debate in person than it is over the net... anyone else find that?


Yes, I'm a dreadful debater on the net, so so in person.
AnarchyeL
07-01-2005, 08:38
AnarchyLE and Dempublicants (sp? for both of them :D ) comes to mind first this, though Dem can be tempermental at times...

WOW!! I get a mention!!

I don't know how great are my debating skills... but I like to think I am capable of acknowledging a good point when it has been made.

Personally, that is the sort of person with whom I enjoy debating: one who will admit when he/she is wrong.
AnarchyeL
07-01-2005, 08:38
I like debating but i wouldn't say that i'm always good at it. its easier for me to debate in person than it is over the net... anyone else find that?

Actually, I may be better on the net.

I like to have the opportunity to think about my response before I make it.
King Binks
07-01-2005, 08:43
Gnostikos.
Dobbs Town
07-01-2005, 08:52
Ah yes, Bottle and Dobbs Town are both pretty good as well. I had forgotten about them.

Wow, thanks for the thumbs-up Gnostikos. No one's ever said that about my posts.
Portu Cale
07-01-2005, 12:00
I had chicken for dinner.

I had lasagna. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SUGGEST? :p
Angry Fruit Salad
07-01-2005, 12:05
Actually, I may be better on the net.

I like to have the opportunity to think about my response before I make it.

I debate better on the net because people can't use my accent as an excuse to assume that I'm a moron.(Why is there some kind of stigma attached to Southern accents? o.O) Of course, I really think having virtually unlimited resources at my fingertips has more to do with it. It's easier to back up what I'm saying with facts when I can do a little quick research before posting a message.
Keruvalia
07-01-2005, 12:40
I had lasagna. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SUGGEST? :p

BASTARD!
The Force Majeure
07-01-2005, 12:59
I like debating but i wouldn't say that i'm always good at it. its easier for me to debate in person than it is over the net... anyone else find that?

Depends...it can be annoying when debating some 13 year old who is just copying nonsense from google...but it is nice to have time to think before responding.
Pure Metal
07-01-2005, 13:58
Gnostikos.
+ Dobbs Town. others have impressed me (and often made me shut my big trap... or stop typing... whatever) but only those two come to mind right now.
Marabal
07-01-2005, 14:17
You should have a poll with some of the top debaters on it.
Monkeypimp
07-01-2005, 14:26
It's not me, I can tell you that much.
Personal responsibilit
07-01-2005, 14:35
I'd have to say Graven idol and UpwardThrust, unlike Dempublicants and Nasopotemia, they are at least willing to look at more than one side of an issue and have a sense of humor. I agree that Dem and Nas are relatively knowledgeable and effective debators, but they generally debate with blinders on and have little sense of humor and tend to insult people they disagree with.
Vittos Ordination
07-01-2005, 15:29
Since I doubt the adamant christians will get much love on this thread, I am going to say Neo Cannen. Anarchyel has done a pretty good job of arguing the applicable benefits of socialism.

And I liked DeaconDave as well, where did he go? :(
Von Witzleben
07-01-2005, 15:32
No question. MKULTRA and Nazi Weaponised Virus.
Dobbs Town
07-01-2005, 15:34
Actually, Von Witz makes a good point, I've always deeply admired MKULTRA's vigour.
Sanctaphrax
07-01-2005, 15:39
I'd have to say Neo Cannen, he's good at what he debates. QahJoh for Israel debating, although he stopped a while back, he was a brilliant debater. Greenmanbry occasionally, when the mood takes him can be a great anti-Israel debater.
Neo-Anarchists
07-01-2005, 15:44
, and so is Bottle.

Oh yes.
I love Bottle's style of debating.
Way to go!

Gnostikos does really well too.

They get my votes.
The Elder Malaclypse
07-01-2005, 15:51
I nominate our beautiful brother Trulin, no longer truly with us.