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Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

Yes to all except transgendered. IMO you have to have something wrong with you if you want to mutilate yourself like that.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?
Of course; I don't give a damn about any of that; everyone should be judged on their character, not their race, gender, sexual orientation or any of those issues.

Yep. If the politics works, then I don't really care what he/she looks like.

Probably Not

ABsolutely. I might think he/she is a bit strange, but.. to each his own.

Sorry no. I have problems with authority enough has it is. I just can't see myself taking orders from a person with gender issues.

If this person's political views matched my own, I would most certainly vote for him/her/it. Too much emphasis in today's political world is put upon the person themselves, not what they will implement. Who cares about their military record, their race, their gender, sexuality or whatever. If they're going to implement the political philosophy you believe in, what's the problem.

Yes, i vote on issues not on someone's race, sexual orientation, and physical abillity.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

Obviously. Especially as you put Atheist as an irremovable factor.

I know a number of people with politics similar to mine that I would never vote for. Is this person, for all their unique qualities, a good leader? Are they charismatic? You didn't say if they had either leadership or charisma, so I really don't know if I would. What you listed wouldn't PREVENT me from voting for them, but it wouldn't make me any more likely to either.

I would want to know that they were up to the challange of being in office, in a fish bowl, where public opinion matters as much as facts.

It would be impossible for a person of that nature to have even remotely similar politics to my own.

thats just normal in british politics, david blunkett was blind not heard of any black people for some reason, and all Mps in england Are athiest God is nothing to anyone

The correct answer is NO for people in most nations. In most nations such a person could never get elected. You would be wasting your vote.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

Black, nope don't trust em
Trangendred, we shoot people like that where I come from
Homosexual, see Transgendered
Atheist, sur why not
Physically Handicapped, I don't think a gimp can perform as well as an able bodies person so I lean to no.

Of course. If they also, like someone else said, had the skill and ability to run a country well.

thats just normal in british politics, david blunkett was blind not heard of any black people for some reason, and all Mps in england Are athiest God is nothing to anyone

Actually there's a group in the House of Lords exclusively for "the Bishops". The British government has been playing footsie with the Church of England for centuries, too.

Further, Mr Blair himself is a fairly pious Christian, I think. To claim that British politics has freed itself from the ridiculous clutches of religious favoritism is a little naive.

This particular problem disgusts me in fact. I believe that atheism is important in a leader, lest he favor any particular religion and give them special privileges (as has happened here in the UK).

I would if that person was not transgender or homosexual. :fluffle:

I could take all of them no problem except the transgendered part. That still weirds me out.

This particular problem disgusts me in fact. I believe that atheism is important in a leader, lest he favor any particular religion and give them special privelidges (as has happened here in the UK).

^What?!?^

Ok Atheism is a religion. It may not have all the aspects of mainstream religions but it is a religious philosphy and this biases people against all religions that believe in a paticular God or gods. What you are talking about is religous racism and communism...and look where communism has got us.

I would have no problem voting for someone like that.

^What?!?^

Ok Atheism is a religion.

No it isn't. For the same reason [mono/poly]theism and deism aren't religions.

What you are talking about is religous racism and communism...and look where communism has got us.
:rolleyes:

Sometimes it is all you can do.

^What?!?^

Ok Atheism is a religion. It may not have all the aspects of mainstream religions but it is a religious philosphy and this biases people against all religions that believe in a paticular God or gods. What you are talking about is religous racism and communism...and look where communism has got us.

1. Atheism is NOT a religion. It is a commment upon ONE aspect of SOME religions

2. Communism has never really been tried, and look where capitalism got us [Uganda, Genral Pinochet etc].

^What?!?^

Ok Atheism is a religion. It may not have all the aspects of mainstream religions but it is a religious philosphy and this biases people against all religions that believe in a paticular God or gods. What you are talking about is religous racism and communism...and look where communism has got us.
Religious racism makes about as much sense as two monkeys humping a football. Racism is the beleif that one person is better than another based on his race. Religious discrimination would be more accurate.
Atheist government is not communism. Communism requires the abolition of personal wealth and the redistribution of assets to the people.

Probably not. We dont need a physicaly handicaped person in the office. Doesnt seem to me like he would work as well. and we dont need nebody dieing now do we? as to the others eh..i could really care les.

^What?!?^

Ok Atheism is a religion. It may not have all the aspects of mainstream religions but it is a religious philosphy and this biases people against all religions that believe in a paticular God or gods. What you are talking about is religous racism and communism...and look where communism has got us.

To be total unbiased upon religion the candidate would have to never say if they were religious or otherwise. I wouldn't care either way as long as they were for a secular government.

^What?!?^

Ok Atheism is a religion. It may not have all the aspects of mainstream religions but it is a religious philosphy and this biases people against all religions that believe in a paticular God or gods. What you are talking about is religous racism and communism...and look where communism has got us.

Atheism is simply the absence of religious belief. Someone who is atheist will not be biased towards any one religion, but give them all the same treatment.

And you think I'm supporting communism? Have you read any of my other posts?

No I wouldn't vote for them. If someone has that many flaws, be they genetic, twists of fate, or decisions made of their own freewill, they are not going to get my vote. It's not down to one particular issue, it's down to the ingredients all in the pot: it just doesn't sound attractive.

I vote for who I think will do the best job for the area I'm voting for, and if I feel they will represent my interests.

Qualifications are what's important. if that person is qualified, and more so than their oppneent(s) I'd vote for them.

If they can do the job, I don't care if they're from Mars.

If they can do a good job, yes. The rest of it really shouldn't matter.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

Yes, as long as their handicap would not somehow preclude them from performing their duties as a politician.

And in answer to your question, yes. Someone can be born a male, feel that they are actually female, and still like females.
Edit: or vice versa.

If they can do the job, I don't care if they're from Mars.


Oh wow.. I don't know if I'd go that far! :D

Black, nope don't trust em
Trangendred, we shoot people like that where I come from
Homosexual, see Transgendered
Atheist, sur why not
Physically Handicapped, I don't think a gimp can perform as well as an able bodies person so I lean to no.
You stupid hick... {FDR ringing any bells?}

I couldn't vote for someone transgendered, because they're by default a screwed-up idiot who is unfit for even the most remedial of leadership duties.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?


Yes, of course I would.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

If a candidate's positions on issues run parralell to my own, I don't care if they're a ga black, transgendered, homosexual, atheist, physically handicapped dwarf with a limp and three lesbian sisters. It doesn't change the fact that the candidate represents my issues more closely than any of the others running, so I'd vote for him.

my god thats one awkward image! but sure if they have good policies and such

No because he's atheist nothing against that but I find my self wanting to vote for the one with the best religous morals.

Absolutely not.

No because he's atheist nothing against that but I find my self wanting to vote for the one with the best religous morals.
Because that's the mark of a good politician, or because you don't go with this belief that Church and State should be seperate?

Black, nope don't trust em
Trangendred, we shoot people like that where I come from
Homosexual, see Transgendered
Atheist, sur why not
Physically Handicapped, I don't think a gimp can perform as well as an able bodies person so I lean to no.

You stupid hick... {FDR ringing any bells?}

I couldn't vote for someone transgendered, because they're by default a screwed-up idiot who is unfit for even the most remedial of leadership duties.


You are kidding, yeah? I can only hope so.

I wouldn't have a problem voting for that candidate. I don't see how any of it affects their ability to govern efficiently, and that is, unless I've been getting it wrong for years, the point of politicians. Or at least a very important aspect to them.

It would be impossible for a person of that nature to have even remotely similar politics to my own.
Ya, he couldn't come close to what I politically believe

Staying totally on-topic, I think that "Kickasspania" is the coolest country-name i've yet seen. lol

Yeah, I'd vote the person into office

^What?!?^

Ok Atheism is a religion. It may not have all the aspects of mainstream religions but it is a religious philosphy and this biases people against all religions that believe in a paticular God or gods. What you are talking about is religous racism and communism...and look where communism has got us.
Communism is a religion.

snip
Communism requires the abolition of personal wealth and the redistribution of assets to the people.
In practice communism requires the abolition of personal wealth for the unconnected and redistribution of that wealth to the connected.

no. i'd be afraid that if that person were elected he might think that he was the most powerful being in the universe because he was atheist and believes that he has no higher, superior being to answer to. and, judging by history, people who think that they are the best tends to lead to trouble.

i do not mean for this to become a religious debate

Yeah, sure I would vote for them.
It would be impossible for a person of that nature to have even remotely similar politics to my own.
What are your politics?

The correct answer is NO for people in most nations. In most nations such a person could never get elected. You would be wasting your vote.
Well, maybe not in homophobeland (America).

no. i'd be afraid that if that person were elected he might think that he was the most powerful being in the universe because he was atheist and believes that he has no higher, superior being to answer to. and, judging by history, people who think that they are the best tends to lead to trouble.

i do not mean for this to become a religious debate

You've never met an atheist, have you?

Probably not. We dont need a physicaly handicaped person in the office. Doesnt seem to me like he would work as well. and we dont need nebody dieing now do we? as to the others eh..i could really care les.
Franklin D Roosevelt?

You stupid hick... {FDR ringing any bells?}

I couldn't vote for someone transgendered, because they're by default a screwed-up idiot who is unfit for even the most remedial of leadership duties.
Hypocrisy, anyone?

I can't believe how many people, even libertarian people, are against transgendered people. The only messed up transgendered people are the ones who have not had the opportunity to become their correct sex.

No because he's atheist nothing against that but I find my self wanting to vote for the one with the best religous morals.
Why do people think that atheist = immoral? Atheists can be good people too.

No because he's atheist nothing against that but I find my self wanting to vote for the one with the best religous morals.

Why do people think that atheist = immoral? Atheists can be good people too.
Heck, even some people professing religious beliefs can be good people. But only some mind you. :p

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor? If they supported my politics, then yeah, absolutely. The only reason I might not was if a) They were corrupt, or involved in some sort of scandal (money scandal, I'm not bothered about sex scandals), or b) if there was absolutely no chance of them getting in (which, unfortunately enough, seems likely to be the case), but there was a more feasable candidate with whom I broadly agreed.

I'd be tempted to vote for such a person even if their political stance opposed my own, simply to watch all the Daily Mail readers die in a fit of collective apoplexy.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

It depends on wether I see him as a mostly benovolant person (still very possible with all that) and wether i think he was smart enough to put his beleifs into intelligent action.

Nope, to be honest, I dont think I could.

Unless its politics were exactly like my own, every belief that I had, they had, than sure.

Except for the transgender, thats just gross.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

But what if the voter had Dixiecrat beliefs?

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

Absolutely. Hey, at least I could safely assume that person was not bigoted toward blacks, transgendereds, gays, atheists and persons with a physical handicap.

a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person

Sounds like Ru Paul in a wheelchair! He'll yeah I'd vote for him or her or it.

Yes, certainly. I really don't give a damn about things like that. I just pay attention to policy.

definatly

Sure, why not? As long as their policy is good.

Black, nope don't trust em

That's ok. They don't trust you either.

Trangendred, we shoot people like that where I come from

And where, pray tell, do you come from?

Homosexual, see Transgendered

Again ... where, pray tell, do you come from?

Atheist, sur why not

It's been done.

Physically Handicapped, I don't think a gimp can perform as well as an able bodies person so I lean to no.

Hrmmm ... FDR (been mentioned). Kennedy had addison's disease, Lincoln had Marfan Syndrome, Taft was morbidly obese ... we've had plenty of handicapped Presidents.

Probably not. He'll freak out the supporters and me.

It's not only the ideals, but sometimes the personality. The overall package.

Can such a person have good connections with leaders of other nations?
Is he a strong leader that when push comes to shove, he can make decisive decisions?
Can he inspire the people and is he trustworthy enough to stick to his believes and not be like the wind flowing everywhere at the fancy to win votes?

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?
What is the handicap?
Post a poll. Let us vote

No.

This guy:

http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/18609/ugly17.jpg

I believe in the integrity of the person, not what "minority group" they belong to.

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

Absolutely.

Hell yes! I'd vote for a dog if I could find one that supported all my political views!

Regardless of what nation you live in, and regardless of your politics. If there was a black, transgendered, homosexual (is that possible if you're transgendered), atheist, physically handicapped person running for office and that person's politics were similar to your own would you vote in that person's favor?

Yes. Why should any of that mean he (or she) cannot do the job?

Hrmmm ... FDR (been mentioned). Kennedy had addison's disease, Lincoln had Marfan Syndrome, Taft was morbidly obese ... we've had plenty of handicapped Presidents.
And practically the whole Taliban Government. I know they weren't very nice, but you couldhardly call them weak leaders.

That's ok. They don't trust you either.

That's OK cause they don't get elected much.

And where, pray tell, do you come from?

My home town.

Hrmmm ... FDR (been mentioned). Kennedy had addison's disease, Lincoln had Marfan Syndrome, Taft was morbidly obese ... we've had plenty of handicapped Presidents.

A few exceptions. On average able bodies people can out perform gimps. SO lets not take any chances and vote a wheelchair pilot into office.

yes for everything except transgendered... I know a couple of transgenered people pretty well, and in my opinion they have serious personal issues to work out... they are not bad people and I don't hate them or anything, I just wouldn't want them to be in office with that kind of baggage. I don't know how typical that is, but based on my small sample I have to assume it is pretty typical, at least until I meet anybody who isn't like that.

when you say handicapped I assume you mean a physical handicap, not a mental one.

Yes I would vote for him/her.

If they can do the job, I don't care if they're from Mars.

Ditto, im not too bothered about personal religion (as long as it doesnt form the basis for their policies, e.g. attacking a country who's religion is different to ure's because your religion demands that others should be converted to ure faith)

And practically the whole Taliban Government. I know they weren't very nice, but you couldhardly call them weak leaders.
. . . and I doubt there was a gay or transgendered amoung them.

sure i would. why not?