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Ret. Generals and Admirals say Alberto Gonzales will cause US soldiers to be tortured

Skapedroe
06-01-2005, 09:09
* I find it both sickening and predictable that Bush wants to elevate to Attorney-General a man who believes in using torture

The Senate Judiciary Committee will begin hearings tomorrow on the confirmation of White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales as the next attorney general of the United States.
Central to the hearings will be Gonzales" role in paving the legal groundwork that led to the torture of detainees at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay. In a highly controversial January 2002 memo, Gonzales wrote that the war on terror "renders obsolete [the Geneva Convention's] strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions."

In August 2002, a Justice Department memo sought by Gonzales contended the president has "commander-in-chief authority" to order torture and proposed potential legal defenses for U.S. officials who may be accused of torture. The memo also argued that physical abuse of prisoners was torture only if it was "of an intensity akin to...serious physical injury such as death or organ failure," and mental abuse was torture only if it caused "lasting psychological harm."

The confirmation hearings have become even more controversial in the wake of a new Justice Department memo released just last Thursday revising the August 2002 memo to significantly broaden the definition of torture for which individuals could be prosecuted.

The hearings may also become more contentious because the White House has refused to provide copies of the memos to the Judiciary Committee. Sen. Democrat Richard Durbin of Illinois told the Associated Press "We go into the hearing with some knowledge of what has occurred...but without the hard evidence that will either exonerate or implicate Judge Gonzales in this policy."

On Monday, a dozen retired generals and admirals, including former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General John Shalikashvili released a letter to the Judiciary Committee noting that Gonzales" recommendations "fostered greater animosity toward the United States, undermined our intelligence gathering efforts, and added to the risks facing our troops serving around the world."


Brigadier General James Cullen (Ret), among 12 retired Admirals and Generals who yesterday released a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee urging Members to closely examine Attorney General nominee Alberto Gonzales role in setting U.S. policy on torture. Mr. Gonzales confirmation hearings begin January 6, 2005. Cullen last served as the Chief Judge of the U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals. He currently practices law in New York City.
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Tantric Verses
06-01-2005, 09:16
People seem to fixate on this one thing about Gonzales and are blowing it out of proportion.

There is actually a deeper reason to distrust and fear him. A well done assessment I read of him discussed in length his talent for taking a desired outcome given to him and finding a way to justify/accomplish it. He's the perfect tool for Bush. The torture thing is just an example of this talent.
Skapedroe
06-01-2005, 10:00
People seem to fixate on this one thing about Gonzales and are blowing it out of proportion.

There is actually a deeper reason to distrust and fear him. A well done assessment I read of him discussed in length his talent for taking a desired outcome given to him and finding a way to justify/accomplish it. He's the perfect tool for Bush. The torture thing is just an example of this talent.
well thats what I meant--Gonzales would find a legal justification for outlawing the entire Constitution itself for Bush
Axis Nova
06-01-2005, 10:02
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Democracynow.org is not an acceptable source.
Niccolo Medici
06-01-2005, 10:11
I see nothing currently capable of stopping his appointment. Thus I will simply turn on the news tomorrow and cry into my coffee.

Its a sad day when the US Navy JAG-head actually breaks down on NPR and pleads with the administration, "This is the US of A! We can't go tourturing people!" and literally gets laughed off the segment by the current head prosecutor at Gitmo on live radio. I felt my soul leave my body when I heard that.

It happened today at around 11:30am or so...I was just going to get my lunch and I couldn't swallow it for a few minutes trying desperately to move my mind to other things.

...Even looking at the pictures of what had already been done didn't hurt as much as the callous nature in which it is being performed. People do bad things, and they feel bad about them; you can forgive them because they are human and we all make mistakes. If someone does bad things, and then laughs at those who try to stop them, feeling nothing but contempt in their hearts...they are monsters, not men.