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Do people who refrain from using illegal drugs deserve to be arrogant towards those who use them?

Do people who refrain from drinking alcohol deserve to be arrogant towards those who drink it?

i try to respect them but dude they don't respect me. i told the story to one of my weed friends about a masterbation attcented i had with ice and hot and he just looked down on me and said shit. But u know what at least i know where i parked my car

I'm gonna go with no...people don't deserve to be arrogant, period. Nevertheless, if someone is using a drug that is going to affect them negatively, I think people do have a right to feel as though they've made a better choice by abstaining.

No, of course not, every pothead I've known in my life has been a decent person, most of the cool to boot. And its spelled masturbation :p

For those who are saying 'Yes, except alcohol,' are you choosing that simply because the other drugs are illegal? Otherwise, how are they any different from alcohol?

For those who are saying 'Yes, except alcohol,' are you choosing that simply because the other drugs are illegal? Otherwise, how are they any different from alcohol?


i asked that to a semi-conservative before and they say "well after one used there isn't any preminted damage or after effect" and other then a crash a one time use doesn't do much, maybe a stroke a the most.

Look, people who do drugs are doing something incredibly stupid to their minds and bodies, so I tend not to be around people like that, and sometimes I will be mean towards them not because I don't like them as human beiings but out of a kindness that shows them that their behavior is not acceptable to me

The answers you gave us to choose from pretty much makes me sound arrogant, you need to make the question less weighted, arrogance is never warranted, in any situation. I truly can't respect any decisions made by someone that damages their body like that. But I truly try to not be arrogant about it.

While I do not believe it is up to one's peers to tell drug and alcohol usersthe mistake of their ways, I do believe that when a drug or alcohol addiction begins to set in, it is the responsibility of one's friends and family to take action so that the user and others aren't hurt.

You have to keep in mind though, those who don't do drugs have more brain cells than those who do... you should listen to them..lol ;)

i try to respect them but dude they don't respect me. i told the story to one of my weed friends about a masterbation attcented i had with ice and hot and he just looked down on me and said shit. But u know what at least i know where i parked my car

Care to elaborate on that story? It sounds interesting :D

I voted for No, but I'm having second thoughts, I hadn't read the question well. I don't see any reason why people who don't use drugs should feel better than those who don't, but of course they can be however as arrogant as they please to whoever they want for whatever reason they want. So I don't really know how to interpret it, but I voted No anyways as I have a trigger happy mousefinger :cool:

Look, people who do drugs are doing something incredibly stupid to their minds and bodies, so I tend not to be around people like that, and sometimes I will be mean towards them not because I don't like them as human beiings but out of a kindness that shows them that their behavior is not acceptable to me

Do you include people who use alcohol in that?

How is it kindness to show that their behaviour is not acceptable to you? If a homophobe is mean towards a gay person based purely on the person's sexual orientation, is that also being kind?

Care to elaborate on that story? It sounds interesting :D




i was 10 or 11 and i thought it would be like lube but no it really wasn't and it really hurt water just made it worst. but at least i felt fresh

You have to keep in mind though, those who don't do drugs have more brain cells than those who do... you should listen to them..lol ;)
Oh come on, we're only using 12%-the rest is there as a cushion. Your wasting it if your not doing drugs :D

Oh come on, we're only using 12%-the rest is there as a cushion. Your wasting it if your not doing drugs :D

12% but at any given time. u use all ur brain not 12% of it

The answers you gave us to choose from pretty much makes me sound arrogant, you need to make the question less weighted, arrogance is never warranted, in any situation. I truly can't respect any decisions made by someone that damages their body like that. But I truly try to not be arrogant about it.

Then your answer to the poll would be 'No.'

I'm not asking whether people think what drug users do is right, I'm asking whether it's ok to be arrogant to those who use drugs that you don't.

If you can't respect the decisions of druggies, can you respect those of athletes? Many sports destroy the cartilage of an athlete's body and most greatly increase the chances of that person becoming more acutely injured (breaking a bone, dislocating a joint, etc).

I will come out and say that I chose the second option. I believe that those people who don't break the law have every right to look down upon those who do. We have laws for a reason, to maintain order. Order was inherant in the ideas of Locke and Hobbes who said that government existed to protect people by keeping them in line. Therefore, I'll just say that if alcohol were illegal, I would look down on the people who drank that. Same thing with tobacco. If that's what you call "arrogant" then I guess that's what I am.

Weed is good. But I prefer hash. Preferably with a cold beer.

12% but at any given time. u use all ur brain not 12% of it
Really? Because that wouldn't make my little light hearted joke work....

I will come out and say that I chose the second option. I believe that those people who don't break the law have every right to look down upon those who do. We have laws for a reason, to maintain order. Order was inherant in the ideas of Locke and Hobbes who said that government existed to protect people by keeping them in line. Therefore, I'll just say that if alcohol were illegal, I would look down on the people who drank that. Same thing with tobacco. If that's what you call "arrogant" then I guess that's what I am.


i respect wat u said but just keep this in mind. The more rules their are the more rule that will be broken.

Really? Because that wouldn't make my little light hearted joke work....

i think... i heard it on methbusters or soemthing

I know people who've used illegal drugs. Do I think what they're doing is wrong? Yes. Do I wish they'd stop? Yes. Do I see myself as a vastly superior human because I don't and they do? Absolutely not. In other aspects of their life, they do better then I do/make better choices.

Do you include people who use alcohol in that?

How is it kindness to show that their behaviour is not acceptable to you? If a homophobe is mean towards a gay person based purely on the person's sexual orientation, is that also being kind?

People who use alcohol to excess...definately. Why is it a kindness? Because It shows them that the choices they make and the actions they take have consequences. the cruelest thing you could be to an addict is an enabler. I am talking from experience, I have cut off several relative and soome close friends off because of their abuse, and I told them why, and when they clean up and get sober we can have a normal relationship again.

I will come out and say that I chose the second option. I believe that those people who don't break the law have every right to look down upon those who do. We have laws for a reason, to maintain order. Order was inherant in the ideas of Locke and Hobbes who said that government existed to protect people by keeping them in line. Therefore, I'll just say that if alcohol were illegal, I would look down on the people who drank that. Same thing with tobacco. If that's what you call "arrogant" then I guess that's what I am.

So if the government decided that it's ok to say, own slaves, you're alright with it?

Governments have sure done a swell job of 'protecting' people over the past century.

I look down on those who follow blindly.

i think... i heard it on methbusters or soemthing

Hee.
METHbusters.
How delightfully on-topic!
:)

The answer to all your questions, no. Noone deserves to be disrespected, unless they actually warent it. Drug or Alchohol use does not warent disrespect. Personally, I have never touched a non medical drug, heck, pretty much only Advil for headaches, and antibiotic if I'm ill. I don't like drugs in general.
I don't like alchohol either, and I am proud to say, I have yet to get drunk. I also believe I will not.I just don't see whats so great about drinking stuff that is sat around in crates for two years before it is drinkable. Its pretty much a drinkable bacteria when you go into it.

My point, I stay completely drug and alchahol free, I even dislike it, but still show respect towards those who do use them. Hey, it doesnt hurt me, its their body, and their life. More power to em if thats what they want to do.

Now, smoking is another thing entirely, since I do have to sit around in the second hand smoke... You light up near me, and I'll grab it right outta your mouth... After I politely ask to stomp it out that is.

It's perfectly normal to show arrogance. Why? Because you're not AN IDIOT, while the drug users are.

It's perfectly normal to show arrogance. Why? Because you're not AN IDIOT, while the drug users are.

So what exactly makes them idiots? There are a number of influential people who have or do use drugs. Are they all idiots?

People that use drugs aren't idiots, they are simply addicted to something thats bad for them. I might be addicted to sugar, is it good for me? No, rots teeth, makes me hipper. Does it make me stupid? Not neccessarly.

So what exactly makes them idiots? There are a number of influential people who have or do use drugs. Are they all idiots?
They are idiots because they willingly destroy their body/mind for cheap pleasure.

They are idiots because they willingly destroy their body/mind for cheap pleasure.
Typically drugs are used as an escape for a really crappy life. And the drug use makes it worse. Granted, it is indeed bad for them, and they shouldn't do it, but they need help, not scorn. It is not a sign of weakness to seek escape in my opinion, it is the natural reaction of the human body when faced with pain. And sometimes that pain is so great that you can not handle it on your own.

People can do what the hell they want imo, they can smoke weed, take drugs etc, as long as when they do it they take into consideration other people around them and how it may affect them.

I have a mate at Uni I used to live with in a flat, whenever he wanted to smoke his special stuff, he went to the privacy of his own room and did it, and I had no problem with that.

I hate however when someone sparks up a cigerette/joint, or whatever without asking me if I mind. After all its the thought that counts. :)

AS for arrogance, no I don't seem arrogant towards people who use drugs, I am quite nasty to them, because this is my way of trying to make them see the light so to speak.

Everyone who things drugs are "bad" or "stupid" and who have never tried them needs to shut the fuck up, excuse my language.
The "War Against Drugs" is a load of crap. People have been brainwashed. The use of drugs goes way back to the ancient times. There's nothing wrong with it in moderation.
Meanwhile, those who talk a whole bunch of shit about drugs shove their faces with fast food and don't excercise... seems to me that's just as if not more harmful...