NationStates Jolt Archive


If you could go back in time and change one thing, what would it be?

Kramers Intern
05-01-2005, 22:09
I would go back to when the founding fathers were writing the Constitution and tell them, if you do not act now America will fall in 35 years! (Say 35 instead of 234 just to scare them) Than say, "I am from the future, you must write in something that prevents peoples sons from running if they were president, however this is supposed to be a fair country, so just write in.., 'Because we are so against monarchys, noone can run for president if their father was president.'"

Genious huh? What would you do?
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 22:11
I would stop in the late 1800's and "invent" all kinds of neat stuff. Make myself filthy rich. Wouldn't change much though.
Chess Squares
05-01-2005, 22:15
I would stop in the late 1800's and "invent" all kinds of neat stuff. Make myself filthy rich. Wouldn't change much though.
potentially advance the speed of technological advancement 10 fold
Roach-Busters
05-01-2005, 22:17
I'd kidnap baby Adolf Hitler and throw him in the Rhine River. ;)
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 22:17
potentially advance the speed of technological advancement 10 fold
There ya go. I'm usefull afterall. Maybe WWI could have gone nuclear.
New Genoa
05-01-2005, 22:17
I would go back to when the founding fathers were writing the Constitution and tell them, if you do not act now America will fall in 35 years! (Say 35 instead of 234 just to scare them) Than say, "I am from the future, you must write in something that prevents peoples sons from running if they were president, however this is supposed to be a fair country, so just write in.., 'Because we are so against monarchys, noone can run for president if their father was president.'"

Genious huh? What would you do?

You'd be hanged for lunancy if you said you were from the future.
New Genoa
05-01-2005, 22:17
There ya go. I'm usefull afterall. Maybe WWI could have gone nuclear.

Or Solar! could you imagine a solar-powered war?
The Phoenix Milita
05-01-2005, 22:18
I would go back in time and kill my grandfather before he even met my grandmother, this would cause a paradox and the universe would explode :)
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 22:18
Or Solar! could you imagine a solar-powered war?
Hydrogen bombs? I like it!
Chess Squares
05-01-2005, 22:19
I'd kidnap baby Adolf Hitler and throw him in the Rhine River. ;)
lmao, i saw that episode
Gnomish Republics
05-01-2005, 22:19
I would illegalize racism in all forms, with the death penalty for non-adheration. As such, everyone except for the Quakers would be hung and America would be a better country.
Chess Squares
05-01-2005, 22:20
There ya go. I'm usefull afterall. Maybe WWI could have gone nuclear.
and world war 2 would be fought with sticks and stones

"I don't know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but I know World War 4 will be fought with stick and stones." - Albert Einstein
Drunk commies
05-01-2005, 22:20
I would illegalize racism in all forms, with the death penalty for non-adheration. As such, everyone except for the Quakers would be hung and America would be a better country.
Or it would cease to exist when those pacifist bastards get invaded by the bloodthirsty Canadian hordes.
New Genoa
05-01-2005, 22:22
I'd kill Cassius, Brutus, and Judas. Then I'd travel back and see how the world turned out.
Kramers Intern
05-01-2005, 22:23
You'd be hanged for lunancy if you said you were from the future.

I would bere future gifts! Cars, i-pods, real-comfortable-jeans. etc.

And semi-auto weapons, than they would think twice before endorcing the 2nd ammendment.

Or at least rewriting it, so people would not be allowed to carry these obsene weapons around.
Kramers Intern
05-01-2005, 22:25
I would go back in time and kill my grandfather before he even met my grandmother, this would cause a paradox and the universe would explode :)

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Dobbs Town
05-01-2005, 22:27
I would go back in time and kill my grandfather before he even met my grandmother, this would cause a paradox and the universe would explode :)

Your universe, maybe...not mine...
Willamena
05-01-2005, 22:29
I would go back in time and kill my grandfather before he even met my grandmother, this would cause a paradox and the universe would explode :)
Oh, many, many years ago
When I was twenty-three
I was married to a widow
Who was pretty as can be
This widow had a grown-up daughter
Who had hair of red
My father fell in love with her
And soon the two were wed

This made my dad my son-in-law
And changed my very life
For my daughter was my mother
'Cause she was my father's wife
To complicate the matter
Though it really brought me joy
I soon became the father
Of a bouncing baby boy

This little baby then became
A brother-in-law to Dad
And so became my uncle
Though it made me very sad
For if he was my uncle
Then that also made him brother
Of the widow's grown-up daughter
WHo of course is my step-mother

Chorus
I'm my own grandpa
I'm my own grandpa
It sounds funny I know
But it really is so
Oh, I'm my own grandpa

My father's wife then had a son
Who kept them on the run
And he became my grandchild
For he was my daughter's son
My wife is now my mother's mother
And it makes me blue
Because although she is my wife
She's my grandmother too

Now if my wife is my grandmother
Then I'm her grandchild
And every time I think of it
It nearly drives me wild
For now I have become
The strangest case you ever saw
As husband of my grandma
I am my own grandpa
Ogiek
05-01-2005, 22:31
I would go back to Sarajevo, the morning of June 28, 1914, and prevent Gavrilo Princip from killing Archduke Francis Ferdinand.
Chess Squares
05-01-2005, 22:33
I would go back to Sarajevo, the morning of June 28, 1914, and prevent Gavrilo Princip from killing Archduke Francis Ferdinand.
remember, dont turn into the wrong street
Silent Truth
05-01-2005, 22:34
To make a crazy impact on time: Travel to the dark ages and build something like steam engines or something.

To make a minimal impact: Travel back 10 or so years ago and prevent my knee injury.
Kramers Intern
05-01-2005, 22:36
Oh, many, many years ago
When I was twenty-three
I was married to a widow
Who was pretty as can be
This widow had a grown-up daughter
Who had hair of red
My father fell in love with her
And soon the two were wed

This made my dad my son-in-law
And changed my very life
For my daughter was my mother
'Cause she was my father's wife
To complicate the matter
Though it really brought me joy
I soon became the father
Of a bouncing baby boy

This little baby then became
A brother-in-law to Dad
And so became my uncle
Though it made me very sad
For if he was my uncle
Then that also made him brother
Of the widow's grown-up daughter
WHo of course is my step-mother

Chorus
I'm my own grandpa
I'm my own grandpa
It sounds funny I know
But it really is so
Oh, I'm my own grandpa

My father's wife then had a son
Who kept them on the run
And he became my grandchild
For he was my daughter's son
My wife is now my mother's mother
And it makes me blue
Because although she is my wife
She's my grandmother too

Now if my wife is my grandmother
Then I'm her grandchild
And every time I think of it
It nearly drives me wild
For now I have become
The strangest case you ever saw
As husband of my grandma
I am my own grandpa


A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How that music used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And, maybe, they?d be happy for a while.

But february made me shiver
With every paper I?d deliver.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldn?t take one more step.

I can?t remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died.

So bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin? whiskey and rye
Singin?, "this?ll be the day that I die.
"this?ll be the day that I die."

Did you write the book of love,
And do you have faith in God above,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock ?n roll,
Can music save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Well, I know that you?re in love with him
`cause I saw you dancin? in the gym.
You both kicked off your shoes.
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues.

I was a lonely teenage broncin? buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died.

I started singin?,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin? whiskey and rye
And singin?, "this?ll be the day that I die.
"this?ll be the day that I die."

Now for ten years we?ve been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rollin? stone,
But that?s not how it used to be.
When the jester sang for the king and queen,
In a coat he borrowed from james dean
And a voice that came from you and me,

Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while lennon read a book of marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

We were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin? whiskey and rye
And singin?, "this?ll be the day that I die.
"this?ll be the day that I die."

Helter skelter in a summer swelter.
The birds flew off with a fallout shelter,
Eight miles high and falling fast.
It landed foul on the grass.
The players tried for a forward pass,
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast.

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune.
We all got up to dance,
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`cause the players tried to take the field;
The marching band refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

We started singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin? whiskey and rye
And singin?, "this?ll be the day that I die.
"this?ll be the day that I die."

Oh, and there we were all in one place,
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on: jack be nimble, jack be quick!
Jack flash sat on a candlestick
Cause fire is the devil?s only friend.

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that satan?s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw satan laughing with delight
The day the music died

He was singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin? whiskey and rye
And singin?, "this?ll be the day that I die.
"this?ll be the day that I die."

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news,
But she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the sacred store
Where I?d heard the music years before,
But the man there said the music wouldn?t play.

And in the streets: the children screamed,
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The church bells all were broken.
And the three men I admire most:
The father, son, and the holy ghost,
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died.

And they were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin? whiskey and rye
Singin?, "this?ll be the day that I die.
"this?ll be the day that I die."

They were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin? whiskey and rye
Singin?, "this?ll be the day that I die."



I have my own song too :D
Frangland
05-01-2005, 22:43
I'd go back, oh, about 30 years with full knowledge of the outcome of all major sporting events... and bet on the winners... year after year. until i got sick of the winnings.

and then buy an island somewhere and just veg. hehe
Stupid CBE Tim Collins
05-01-2005, 23:03
I would like to go back to Cardiff in early 2002 and kill both Steven and Kyle Johnson. They are thugs who have ruined Charlotte Church for the worse.

Charlotte Church used to be my favourite celeb, but now she has been turned into a drunken working class slag by those Boyfriends and some of the girls that she has met.

Poor Charlotte. :(
Chess Squares
05-01-2005, 23:05
I'd kill Cassius, Brutus, and Judas. Then I'd travel back and see how the world turned out.
better learn german
Marabal
05-01-2005, 23:11
Go back five miuntes ago and laugh at myself.
British Jimmy
05-01-2005, 23:21
I would go back to 1971 and live the timeline my mom did and it would be awsome coz i wanna live int the 70's! :grin:
Rohirric Legend
05-01-2005, 23:28
I would go back to...erm... whenever William Shakespeare was alive and kill him before he could write anything! (partly taken from the Millenium Episode of Blackadder. Lol)

Otherwise i would ask my girlfriend out sooner rather than later.
Kroisistan
05-01-2005, 23:28
I would go way back in time to August 9, 378 CE to the Battle of Adrianople and make the Romans win. That loss was the beginning of the end for Rome. If I could make Rome win, perhaps I could prevent thier fall. If I had more than one trip I'd help them win other battle too, bring them modern weapons and ensure that they didn't fall, but with only 1 shot, Adrianople it is.
World wide allies
05-01-2005, 23:29
I would like to go back to Cardiff in early 2002 and kill both Steven and Kyle Johnson. They are thugs who have ruined Charlotte Church for the worse.

Charlotte Church used to be my favourite celeb, but now she has been turned into a drunken working class slag by those Boyfriends and some of the girls that she has met.

Poor Charlotte. :(

Well if Charlotte Church is the thing in the whole of the history of time that you would change .. you need to get your priorities straight :p
Mickey Mosque
05-01-2005, 23:32
I'd buy IPO's in Coca-cola, IBM, and Microsoft, then I'd buy the NY Yankees and disband them.
Nookyoolerr Strategery
05-01-2005, 23:35
Assasssinate Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden (wonder who Bush would launch an attack on after that)

On my second trip, warn the Founding Fathers about the Patriot Act and have then write an amendment into the bill of rights... Oh wait, the Patriot Act is already unconstitutional.

Then I'd buy the NY Yankees and disband them

On my next trip i would buy the NY yankees and make sure they would never be disbanded... After that, disband the Dead Sox.
Takuma
05-01-2005, 23:36
I'd go back and take over the Roman empire. Then I'd ban christianity, become imortal and prevent its downfall. I'd rule the world! ^.^
Stupid CBE Tim Collins
05-01-2005, 23:40
Well if Charlotte Church is the thing in the whole of the history of time that you would change .. you need to get your priorities straight :p

She was the most attractive girl in all of time. She was only fit for a prince, and not some working class thug that doesn't have any qualifications.

(I am not a prince and I did not exactly fancy her)

Charlotte had all As and A*s in her GSCEs that showed that she was very smart. She had brought greatness to Britain when she was a young star and would have continued to bring greatness, if it wasn't for Steven Johnson.

With her intelligence and charm, she could have done so many things... become a journalist, a TV presenter, or maybe even a local MP.

Charlotte Church inspired many people to be hard working and successful like she was.

Charlotte's fall from fame was the biggest tragedy that Britain has faced since the death of Princess Diana in 1997.
Frangland
05-01-2005, 23:42
I'd go back to about 1830.. hunt down and kill Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

Then, just in case he was capable of that thought himself (V.I. Lenin), I'd hunt down Lenin's mother and father.

Then I'd find Hitler's mom and dad (or grandparents, if his parents weren't alive yet) and take care of them.

hehe
Takuma
05-01-2005, 23:43
*snip*

Charlotte's fall from fame was the biggest tragedy that Britain has faced since the death of Princess Diana in 1997.

What happened? It seems I missed this as well... (I thought she was hot too ^.^)
Takuma
05-01-2005, 23:44
I'd go back to about 1830.. hunt down and kill Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

Then, just in case he was capable of that thought himself (V.I. Lenin), I'd hunt down Lenin's mother and father.

hehe

Why? If you want to kill off evil dictatorships, just kill Stalin's parents.
Frangland
05-01-2005, 23:46
i'd want to stop the popularization of socialistic theory

No USSR = No Cold War, possibly no Communism (no Vietnam conflict)

No Hitler = No World War II (probably)

but... i don't think i could kill anyone in cold blood. so i'd pay someone else to do it. hehe
Mickey Mosque
05-01-2005, 23:47
Assasssinate Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden (wonder who Bush would launch an attack on after that)

On my second trip, warn the Founding Fathers about the Patriot Act and have then write an amendment into the bill of rights... Oh wait, the Patriot Act is already unconstitutional.

Kill Saddam and Osama, Bush gets crushed by Gore in the re-match in 2004. Bonus for you, you wouldn't have to worry about the vastly overrated Patriot act.
Jenn Jenn Land
05-01-2005, 23:48
i'd stop my daddy's rubber from breaking. 9 months before april 4, 1988.
Stupid CBE Tim Collins
05-01-2005, 23:52
What happened? It seems I missed this as well... (I thought she was hot too ^.^)

It started in about October 2002 when she was caught smoking like a working class slag.

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2002/web&media-news2002/sun/20021018smoking.htm

She had been going out with an unsuitable boyfriend, who was that bad boy Steven Johnson.

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2002/web&media-news2002/ic-wales/20021128cc%20defends%20%60bit%20of%20rough%27%20romance.htm

Here is what she is like now.

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/various/20040929_BigNews_Charlotte%20Church%20involved%20in%20brawl.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/the%20sun/20040929_Charlotte%20like%20a%20wildcat.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/newwoman/20040927_Charlotte%20brawls%20again.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/New%20Magazine/20040916_Charlotte%20goes%20wild.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/daily%20record/20040911_CHARLOTTE%20BARRED%20FROM%20NO10.htm
Von Witzleben
05-01-2005, 23:53
I would go to the court of the French king and persuade him to, instead helping the colonials, to conquer them.
Personal responsibilit
06-01-2005, 00:00
I would go back to the day Constantine changed the Sabbath memorial of creation to Sunday and pursuade him that if he made that change, the world would gradually forget its Creator and come to deny His very existance as has happened. I'd show him the effects of his decision on the very fabric of society and how it would lead to the degradation of the moral state of the world over time.
Drunk commies
06-01-2005, 00:01
i'd want to stop the popularization of socialistic theory

No USSR = No Cold War, possibly no Communism (no Vietnam conflict)

No Hitler = No World War II (probably)

but... i don't think i could kill anyone in cold blood. so i'd pay someone else to do it. hehe
No cold war = no stealth technology, perhaps no space race, no GPS, etc.
Ultimate_apocalypse
06-01-2005, 00:03
I would go back and give what knowledge I have to my past self so he could make the future for himself alot better!
Arthurs Camalot
06-01-2005, 00:10
i would take the source code of the Lastest version of linux and take it back to when the first Windows version was released i would crush Microsoft Muhahaha

Or

Kill Some future song writers and have there lyrics and make there song for my self if i could sing :p
Lascivious Maximus
06-01-2005, 00:15
In all seriousness, I have often asked myself this question - my response every time is the same:

September 1st, 2001 - I would go back in time and save my brother from dying, somehow - If it were possible, I would go back even earlier in time and spend more time with him before that date just in case for whatever reason I could not have prevented it.

Having the ability to change anything else would not even matter if I could do that.

Not even slightly.
Very Liberal Intent
06-01-2005, 00:25
I think that I'd go back and prevent people from ever discovering Japan, and then I'd go and make Japan communist. Because of Japan's isolation, self-sufficiency, unity, etc, they really could have made an ideal commune, if teh capitalists hadn't gone in and capitalized the place.
Drunk commies
06-01-2005, 00:27
I think that I'd go back and prevent people from ever discovering Japan, and then I'd go and make Japan communist. Because of Japan's isolation, self-sufficiency, unity, etc, they really could have made an ideal commune, if teh capitalists hadn't gone in and capitalized the place.
Self sufficiency? They have no oil.
Gyrobot
06-01-2005, 00:37
Well I wont kill hitler instead, I will tell the art school director he was refused to be admitted in to let him be in and that way hitler will become a artist instead of a dictator. Of course Mussilini will still wage war in africa and Tojo will fight his war in Asia but will be crushed fairly quickly since the german war machine cease to exist.
Takuma
06-01-2005, 00:47
It started in about October 2002 when she was caught smoking like a working class slag.

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2002/web&media-news2002/sun/20021018smoking.htm

She had been going out with an unsuitable boyfriend, who was that bad boy Steven Johnson.

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2002/web&media-news2002/ic-wales/20021128cc%20defends%20%60bit%20of%20rough%27%20romance.htm

Here is what she is like now.

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/various/20040929_BigNews_Charlotte%20Church%20involved%20in%20brawl.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/the%20sun/20040929_Charlotte%20like%20a%20wildcat.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/newwoman/20040927_Charlotte%20brawls%20again.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/New%20Magazine/20040916_Charlotte%20goes%20wild.htm

http://www.justcharlotte.co.uk/2004/web&media-news2004/daily%20record/20040911_CHARLOTTE%20BARRED%20FROM%20NO10.htm

Wow shit I've only seen a picture of her at like 14. Not that hot now, methinks.
Tyldanien
06-01-2005, 00:51
I would stop this thread...
Ogiek
06-01-2005, 01:48
I would go to the island of Guanahani (later renamed San Salvador) on Oct 12, 1492 and convince the Taino people they could never let Cristóbal Colón and his men return to Spain.
Keruvalia
06-01-2005, 02:12
Since we're using our imaginations here, I'd go back and prevent God from making that stupid tree which caused the downfall of mankind.

For something reality wise, I'd go back to 10 minutes and prevent myself from reading this thread.
Kramers Intern
06-01-2005, 02:13
I'd go back, oh, about 30 years with full knowledge of the outcome of all major sporting events... and bet on the winners... year after year. until i got sick of the winnings.

and then buy an island somewhere and just veg. hehe

Ok Biff.
Kramers Intern
06-01-2005, 02:13
I would stop this thread...

:(
Gross Norwegen
06-01-2005, 02:24
I would go way back in time, and just at the moment when God said: Let the be Light, I would shout: Hey, what the F......!
Jezka
06-01-2005, 02:24
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if i could go back in time i would make it so war was unnecessary
Ultimate_apocalypse
06-01-2005, 02:28
if i could go back in time i would make it so war was unnecessary


you forgot to close em
Gnomish Republics
06-01-2005, 02:39
Actually, I would go back to that battle in which Constantine won... you know, the one that essentially allowed Christianity to become the major religion it is now, and change it so that he lost. Or maybe, I would go back to the time of the Library of Alexandria (never forgiving those bastards for it, even though am named for the guy who became a saint due to it) and prevent the stupid fucktards from burning it. And then torturing them in painful ways, so they would know how they harmed civilization. If the Dark Ages had been held off even in just northern Egypt, the primitive steam engines, designs for which had existed, would have given rise to proper technology and at this time, we would be colonizing the planets, if we hadn't already done it.
For a secondary wish- I would prevent Victor Tsoi from getting into that car crash.
Ultimate_apocalypse
06-01-2005, 03:04
So everyone would eventually go back and kind of run into each other.

I would go back to where my one friend hit me and ran, I would wait for him to hit me and when he ran away be where he went to so I can knock him out.
Upitatanium
06-01-2005, 03:11
I could have sworn to God I posted in this thread earlier...but no post :(

Anyway, I would allow Hitler to enter that art school he was turned down from. This one step would keep him from becoming the bastard he'd later become. Best thing about it: no ones dies. Not even Hitler :)
Ultimate_apocalypse
06-01-2005, 04:25
I could have sworn to God I posted in this thread earlier...but no post :(

Anyway, I would allow Hitler to enter that art school he was turned down from. This one step would keep him from becoming the bastard he'd later become. Best thing about it: no ones dies. Not even Hitler :)

Yeah I remember your post earlier.
Tyldanien
06-01-2005, 07:42
For something reality wise, I'd go back to 10 minutes and prevent myself from reading this thread.


Sure thing ^^
Tyldanien
06-01-2005, 07:43
:(

Reminder: U are deadly
Sparkeh
06-01-2005, 08:19
I would go back to ancient Latin America with an M1, and blow the conquistadors away, saving the Aztecs. :sniper: :)
Ultimate_apocalypse
06-01-2005, 23:34
I would go back to new years and do it over again!
The Roxburry
06-01-2005, 23:42
I would have asked my grandmother not to smoke instead of telling her it was allright with me. because now that shes dead, its not. I know if I would have asked her to quit because I love her she would have but because I said its ok grandma I dont mind its your life, as I thought to myself that she would never die from it, I must have thought my grandmother invincable for some reason. Now shes dead and I cant go to her durring the hardest time of my life. I know she would have enjoyed being here and helping me that was somthing that made her happy was just being there for me to depend on she lived for it.


In Loving Memory of Charline Marie McKinley 5/15/39-9/19/03
Keabar
07-01-2005, 00:19
I would go back to the 50's and sing Gangsta songs about drive bys and dealing drugs and loving lots of women. I would be the first orignal gangsta and of course get banned and become so popular. And then 2005 all the songs they sing now would be actually copyright remakes and I would make a alot of Money!
Mother Russia II
07-01-2005, 00:38
Genesis: The Untold Story.


...And on the like 3rd or 4th day I think, God said: "let there be all sorts of furry little animals." And it was so. Then, a strange boy wearing baggy pants and a t-shirt with a .50 cal machine gun slung over his shoulder :mp5: (quite possibly one that is similar to that one, depending on whether or not my best friend Jose,((who would not live to step through the portal with me roughly 5 seconds later)) ,who incidently was in the arms industry, could come through with the "goods".) .He looks around...then whips out his machine gun :mp5: (quite possibly one that is similar to that one, depending on whether or not my best friend Jose,((who would not live to step through the portal with me roughly 5 seconds later)) ,who incidently was in the arms industry, could come through with the "goods".) and he cocks it and opens fire on the countryside, killing all the animals.

(I haven't gotten to fixing the rest of the bible yet, so I'll just stick this particular incident riiiigghhhttttt.....here-)

...And God saw that it was pretty good, but didn't bother to fix anything else like erasing the possible future existence of any sort of redneck, since he was a lazy guy and everything. Anyways, life was somewhat altered, apparently, (I wouldn't know, as I failed to think of a way to get back to today, thusly living out the rest of my limited days in an animal corpse-ridden battlefield looking for trees((which I found to be very tasty if you gnaw on the trunk for like 4 hours straight)) which had become the main dish ((at least up until all my teeth fell out and my mouth went numb)) at every one of my meals.) And all the people left, who may or may not have lived to that point in time depending on the impact that whole "animal massacre" incident, lived dull and uneventful lives in an animal-free world.


------THE END------


Sooooooo...... how was that, guys (who may or may not have lived to that point in time depending on the impact that whole "animal massacre" incident) ?
Trow Nationals
07-01-2005, 03:16
the discovery of agriculture. all the people who lived in climates that couldn't support hunting and gathering should have died out.
Mother Russia II
08-01-2005, 04:28
i'd want to stop the popularization of socialistic theory

No USSR = No Cold War, possibly no Communism (no Vietnam conflict)

No Hitler = No World War II (probably)

but... i don't think i could kill anyone in cold blood. so i'd pay someone else to do it. hehe

... or


you could prevent the 19 year old Serb/Slav Nationalist, Gavrilo Princip, from assasinating Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, on a street in Sarajevo on the 28th of June,1914, thusly, preventing WWI from starting, which would prevent Germany from losing the War and then being the country forced to pay for the damage done to Europe, and, on the off-chance Hitler still came to power, he couldn't blame the Jews for something that never happened. Then,w/o WWII, America would likely never have become rivals with the Soviets, who wouldn't own Germany either, and then, in theory the Cold War would not have happened.
But this is very unlikely to be the case, since The Balkans were, prior to WWI, known as "The Powderkeg"; any event was likely to trigger the explosion of the War.
Nsendalen
08-01-2005, 05:43
To prevent all sorts of messy time-travel related implosions, I'd stop everyone here who wanted to carry out something that was life-changing and more than a few years into the past.

Then I'd wait until tomorrow, get tomorrow's lottery numbers, come back to tonight and buy a ticket. :p
Andaluciae
08-01-2005, 06:35
Me? I'd go back in time, pretend to be European nobility and become commanding general of the Union Army in the American Civil War. I'd use superior tactics, and squish the confederacy.
Mauiwowee
08-01-2005, 06:51
Me? I'd go back in time, pretend to be European nobility and become commanding general of the Union Army in the American Civil War. I'd use superior tactics, and squish the confederacy.


I think some guy named U.S. Grant did this already. :)

Me, I'd go back and deliver a few thousand Uzi's with ammo to General Lee.
Ultimate_apocalypse
10-02-2005, 22:38
In all reality I would go back and stop my friend from dying the way he did. Even tho it was from what I hear a semi-honorable death. I would do my best to make it so that he was here again to bring back the old times.


DANTE I miss you Buddy!!!
Neo Cannen
10-02-2005, 23:02
I would go back sevearl thousand years before humans had arrived in the continent of North America and irradiate it using hundurds of neutron bombs, making it uninabitable for sevearl millinea (maybe I will just leave neutron devices pumping high level Gamma radation all across America) and see how the world political shape turns out in the 20th century.
Corneliu
10-02-2005, 23:26
I'd force the country to turn the German Army around and attack the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union Army won't stand a chance.

Before you all jump on me for this, evidence has come out of Russia at just how sorry a state their military was in after WWII to present.
Disciplined Peoples
10-02-2005, 23:32
I'd force the country to turn the German Army around and attack the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union Army won't stand a chance.

Before you all jump on me for this, evidence has come out of Russia at just how sorry a state their military was in after WWII to present.
I'm assuming you mean with the help of the Allied armies?
Corneliu
10-02-2005, 23:34
I'm assuming you mean with the help of the Allied armies?

Yep! Led by none other than General Patton himself :)
You Forgot Poland
10-02-2005, 23:34
I'd force the country to turn the German Army around and attack the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union Army won't stand a chance.

Before you all jump on me for this, evidence has come out of Russia at just how sorry a state their military was in after WWII to present.

So wait, you'd like ask the German troops to do it for you? Like personally? Like pretty please, one more Russian winter won't kill ya? Even in the realm of alternate history, that's a bit wacky.
Caffienatopia
10-02-2005, 23:36
If you could go back in time and change one thing, what would it be?

I'd go back and grab my 5 yr old baby brother's hand and not let him killed by that pickup... then I would then go ahead 7 years and stop my other baby brother from getting on his bike and getting killed by that car.... I'd then go forward still to stop that man from raping my surviving baby brother... if I could stop it all I would...

But, that wont happen.

And that is life... yet as family we survive another day, survive to live, and learn, and love, and laugh as we have since those many days that had brought so much pain...

As family we still survive.

And it is good. :)
Corneliu
10-02-2005, 23:36
So wait, you'd like ask the German troops to do it for you? Like personally? Like pretty please, one more Russian winter won't kill ya? Even in the realm of alternate history, that's a bit wacky.

Actually it isn't! Look at the evidence coming out of Russia itself regarding their military! It was in a sorry state of affairs.

As to the German Troops, I'd get permission from the higher ups to rearm, after I show them the evidence from the Russian Archives itself, and then rearm the Germans and, side by side, effectively end the Cold War before it can even start.
Iztatepopotla
11-02-2005, 01:38
I would go back millions of years to find that family of hominids that would eventually evolve into the human race, AND BASH THEIR HEADS IN!!!

That would solve all sorts of problems.
Pure Metal
11-02-2005, 01:57
i would go back and invest in a nice portfolio... Microsoft for a start... no need for anything drastic.

that and stop ghandi from being assasinated (odd choice...)
Planners
11-02-2005, 01:59
My Parents divorce.

They divorced I think after my first birthday, I never knew them together.
Trammwerk
11-02-2005, 02:01
Kill Stalin before he ever takes power.
Corneliu
11-02-2005, 02:05
Kill Stalin before he ever takes power.

How about taking out Lenin, Stalin, AND Molotov?

Or better yet, assisting the whites and taking them out.
Gurnee
11-02-2005, 02:59
I would stop the assasination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria. This is what caused the outbreak of WWI. Althought stopping the assasination may only postpone the war, you never know it could have stopped it. And without WWI happening, there is a much slimmer chance of WWII happening.
SuperGroovedom
11-02-2005, 03:22
I'd probably learn hypnotism, then go right right back to the start of civilisation. I'd then brainwash everyone into being pacifistic hippies and have them do the same to their kids. That would solve most of our problems, I think.

If I was feeling less altruistic, I'd go back to 1946 and introduce hard rock and heavy metal to the world. I'd have a monopoly on groupies.
12345543211
11-02-2005, 03:30
Eat dinner with Bush (Sr.) Make him drink a lot and when hes in the bathroom cut his testicles off and feed them to rabid cows and save the world a whole lotta trouble.
Iztatepopotla
11-02-2005, 03:47
Eat dinner with Bush (Sr.) Make him drink a lot and when hes in the bathroom cut his testicles off and feed them to rabid cows and save the world a whole lotta trouble.
It's easier if you go back to that time when he was drifting in the Pacific after being shot down by the Japanese and dropped a brick on him before that sub arrived to rescue him.
Nova Castlemilk
11-02-2005, 04:15
I'd go back and grab my 5 yr old baby brother's hand and not let him killed by that pickup... then I would then go ahead 7 years and stop my other baby brother from getting on his bike and getting killed by that car.... I'd then go forward still to stop that man from raping my surviving baby brother... if I could stop it all I would...

But, that wont happen.

And that is life... yet as family we survive another day, survive to live, and learn, and love, and laugh as we have since those many days that had brought so much pain...

As family we still survive.

And it is good. :)
Thanks for posting that. You are right that you can't change the past but with the acceptance of what has occurred, you can embrace the future. after what you and your family have experienced you all deserve happiness.
Novvs Atlantis
11-02-2005, 04:24
I would go way back in time to August 9, 378 CE to the Battle of Adrianople and make the Romans win. That loss was the beginning of the end for Rome. If I could make Rome win, perhaps I could prevent thier fall. If I had more than one trip I'd help them win other battle too, bring them modern weapons and ensure that they didn't fall, but with only 1 shot, Adrianople it is.

The Roman Empire was long gone before that even happened.

Personally, I would go back to the time of Avgvstvs Caesar and warn him of the upcoming ambush in Teutoberg forest. I would warn either him or Varrus directly. Preferrably I would take control of the legions, refuse to follow Arminius, and from there proceed to crush all resistance.

Hopefully that would lead to the conquering of Germania by Rome. With Germania Romanized and under Roman control it would be possible for the Empire to last that much longer. Of course it would still implode on itself, but most likely much later. Unless I could go back again and get rid of the corruption and internal problems plauging the late Roman Empire. :)
Domici
11-02-2005, 05:15
I'd go back to the FDR administration and wait for Ann Coulter to take advantage of the possibility of time travel to stop him from doing the New Deal. Then I'd drag her ass back to colonial times so that she could enjoy life with the patriarchal puritains that she speaks so fondly of.
Armandian Cheese
11-02-2005, 05:29
Absolutely nothing. Meddling with history is an incredibly dangerous thing. Change one variable and screw everything up. For example: No Hitler does not equal no WW2. Instead, it means Europe under Stalin's thumb, and a still economically weak US unable to do battle against evil. So WW2 ends with Communist victory, and freedom's defeat. The fact is, no matter how bad history was, even the slightest change might turn it for the worse in ways we can't predict.
Farmina
11-02-2005, 05:32
Advise Kaiser Wilhelm that invading Belguim would bring Britain into WW1.

Either that or go out and wait by my car on the night it got broken into.
Straughn
11-02-2005, 07:52
I'd kidnap baby Adolf Hitler and throw him in the Rhine River. ;)
Outer Limits? I forget .... she's a hottie though, gotta admit. There was a good pic of her in FHM or Stuff or something like that not too long ago. Naked but covering one of her upper-torso special parts. *tingle*
Straughn
11-02-2005, 07:54
I'd go back to the FDR administration and wait for Ann Coulter to take advantage of the possibility of time travel to stop him from doing the New Deal. Then I'd drag her ass back to colonial times so that she could enjoy life with the patriarchal puritains that she speaks so fondly of.
VERY GOOD answer! *whimper*
NSZA
11-02-2005, 07:55
Kill all the intellectuals......


Then we all could be hippies and plant trees and rainbows like nadar!
The Lightning Star
11-02-2005, 07:57
I would change history so that Hannibal and his army burned Rome to the ground and eliminated Rome for all time. Then Carthage would have a large Empire spanning the mediterranean, and more!
The Parthians
11-02-2005, 08:03
I would go back in time with 300 Mercenaries and 3 armored vehicles and mow down the Arab invaders at the battle of Nahavand in 642 to prevent the Sassanids from falling to the Muslims.
SHAENDRA
11-02-2005, 08:11
I would go back to near the end of WW2 and get Churchill convince the Allies to invade Moscow to crush the Bolshieviks and stop Communism before it spreads it's cancer through out the World .Imagine Russia AS A DEMOCRACY . :eek:
Synner
11-02-2005, 08:13
She was the most attractive girl in all of time. She was only fit for a prince, and not some working class thug that doesn't have any qualifications.

(I am not a prince and I did not exactly fancy her)

Charlotte had all As and A*s in her GSCEs that showed that she was very smart. She had brought greatness to Britain when she was a young star and would have continued to bring greatness, if it wasn't for Steven Johnson.

With her intelligence and charm, she could have done so many things... become a journalist, a TV presenter, or maybe even a local MP.

Charlotte Church inspired many people to be hard working and successful like she was.

Charlotte's fall from fame was the biggest tragedy that Britain has faced since the death of Princess Diana in 1997.


WHAT the HELL are you talking about? Says you...I think she's pretty happy with herself. Are you like a stalker or something?
SHAENDRA
11-02-2005, 08:16
Or it would cease to exist when those pacifist bastards get invaded by the bloodthirsty Canadian hordes.
Death by Canadians involves drinking alot of beer and eating poutine until you burst ;)
Antebellum South
11-02-2005, 08:18
I would go 24 hours back in time and masturbate.
SHAENDRA
11-02-2005, 08:19
The hell with Charlotte Church :gundge:
The Lightning Star
11-02-2005, 08:24
I would go back in time with 300 Mercenaries and 3 armored vehicles and mow down the Arab invaders at the battle of Nahavand in 642 to prevent the Sassanids from falling to the Muslims.

Hmmmmmm....

Then I would warp the Pakistani Military, the Bangladeshi Military, and the Egyptian Military back in time and have them bomb the Sassanid Capital, and then conquer all of Islams enemies.
The Parthians
11-02-2005, 17:32
Hmmmmmm....

Then I would warp the Pakistani Military, the Bangladeshi Military, and the Egyptian Military back in time and have them bomb the Sassanid Capital, and then conquer all of Islams enemies.

Then I'd warp the US military back and have them destroy Persia's enemies. No nation deserved what the Arabs did to the Sassanids, they tried to destroy Persian culture and race, Persian language, Persian religion, and Persia's history.
Johnny Wadd
11-02-2005, 17:36
One thing is certain. I wouldn't have reached into that combine whilst drunk on JD and not shutting it down.


Also I wouldn't have driven that summer night, back in 73. To those people who were standing on that corner, I'm sorry for all the hurt I may have caused, and for not sticking around!
HC Eredivisie
11-02-2005, 17:53
i'd go back to invent fire and the wheel, hail me. :D
Sarzonia
11-02-2005, 17:56
There ya go. I'm usefull afterall. Maybe WWI could have gone nuclear.The U.S. could have nuked London during the War of 1812. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Corneliu
11-02-2005, 20:12
The U.S. could have nuked London during the War of 1812. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Can we take out Paris too?
Powerhungry Chipmunks
11-02-2005, 20:22
I would go back to when the founding fathers were writing the Constitution and tell them..."I am from the future, you must write in something that prevents peoples sons from running if they were president, however this is supposed to be a fair country, so just write in.., 'Because we are so against monarchys, noone can run for president if their father was president.'"

Genious huh? What would you do?

Yeah, genius. Except for the fact that it would've also precluded John Quincy Adams from running for president. He being the first president to build up the US' infrastructure (buiding/unification of canals and highways), and being a strong backer of state sponsored universities, arts, science facilities, etc. No more Beethoven, no more observatories dotting the country, no more college for the common man--tis but a small price to pay to modern partisanship. :rolleyes:
The Abomination
11-02-2005, 20:31
I'd take a couple of SAS counter-insurgency training officers and the designs of the wonderful, simple little Sten gun to the British military around 1775. And poison George 3rd while I'm there.

..."one nation, under the Imperial throne...."

Bwahahaha!
Greedy Pig
11-02-2005, 20:41
Hmm. Go back in time....

Probably what I might do is give Chiang Kai Shek a machine gun to fight against the communists, or changed General uhhhh whatsisname mind.

I've always been fascinated about how it could have changed the world if China had been a nationalist country instead of a communist one from the early 1940's.

Probably we all would be dead because of World War 3 by now. :p
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
11-02-2005, 20:46
I would go back and give what knowledge I have to my past self so he could make the future for himself alot better!

I like this idea and agree fix yourself and prevent the mistakes you make before they happen...
Rasados
11-02-2005, 20:47
go back and time,and conquer the world with modern tech.
make myself immortal.
rule.
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
11-02-2005, 21:01
How about taking out Lenin, Stalin, AND Molotov?

Or better yet, assisting the whites and taking them out.

How about taking them out and preventing the assassination of the Czar. I wonder how things would have turned out then?

A couple of the other lines have promise...

Why use the remainder of the German Army? Just keep going East with the Allies we (the US) had the ability to keep supplying them. The Soviet Union could possibly been crushed. No Cold War? Hmmmm...

Where would that lead concerning Japan, Korea, China?
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
11-02-2005, 21:18
Then I'd warp the US military back and have them destroy Persia's enemies. No nation deserved what the Arabs did to the Sassanids, they tried to destroy Persian culture and race, Persian language, Persian religion, and Persia's history.

Isn't there a movie where a modern nuclear driven aircraft carrier warps to Dec. 7 1941? What if they interfered with the Japanese invasion instead of staying out of it???
Corneliu
11-02-2005, 21:22
Isn't there a movie where a modern nuclear driven aircraft carrier warps to Dec. 7 1941? What if they interfered with the Japanese invasion instead of staying out of it???

The Final Countdown! Very good movie.

And it was an air assault, not an invasion! What if they shot down those planes? That would've made WWII interesting.
Bitchkitten
11-02-2005, 21:30
Given Mary an abortion.

I'd be interested in seeing what took over in place of christianity. Would that had meant Islam never existed? would something else monotheistic taken over?
Maybe we'd all be somesort of polytheistic pagans.
Irawana Japan
11-02-2005, 21:34
Or Solar! could you imagine a solar-powered war?
Fritz! Hold on, I need to charge up my tank for another 12 hours!
Irawana Japan
11-02-2005, 21:36
The auchluss, possibly by giving Engelbert Dolfuss Warning of the assassins, or Mussolini warning of Hitlers eventual power.
However, also interesting, but harder to do by a long shot, would be trying to hold together the Sino-Japanese relationship during that era. It is a great tragedy that Generallisimo Chiang and General Tojo had to be enemies.
Alien Born
11-02-2005, 22:00
Probably one of the basic physical constants (way back in time to do this) Planck's would be a good one.
The Parthians
11-02-2005, 23:57
Given Mary an abortion.

I'd be interested in seeing what took over in place of christianity. Would that had meant Islam never existed? would something else monotheistic taken over?
Maybe we'd all be somesort of polytheistic pagans.

That would be interesting, the Romans were held together in a unified manner after Constantine mostly by his adoption of Chrisitanity as a state religion based on a similar model used with Zoroastrianism by the Sassanids of Persia. My bet is Rome would be constantly locked into a state of war with the united Persians. Eventually, the empire would break up and fall apart, leaving the Persians to take over the Eastern Provinces of Anatolia and Egypt before crossing into Europe and taking it over while the locals fight amongst themselves. Eventually, Rome's former empire and Persia's empire would be ruled by a Persian from the city of Ctesiphon. Perhaps it could have been a peaceful united world.
Willamena
12-02-2005, 00:18
Prevent the destruction of the library at Alexandria.
Ploymonotheistic Coven
12-02-2005, 00:30
I would go to the 4th century and stop the rise of Constantine.Then possibly knowledge would not take a back seat to superstition.
Corneliu
12-02-2005, 00:42
I would go to the 4th century and stop the rise of Constantine.Then possibly knowledge would not take a back seat to superstition.

There goes the Orthodox Church! Now the Roman Catholics can take over eastern Europe.
The Lightning Star
12-02-2005, 01:09
That would be interesting, the Romans were held together in a unified manner after Constantine mostly by his adoption of Chrisitanity as a state religion based on a similar model used with Zoroastrianism by the Sassanids of Persia. My bet is Rome would be constantly locked into a state of war with the united Persians. Eventually, the empire would break up and fall apart, leaving the Persians to take over the Eastern Provinces of Anatolia and Egypt before crossing into Europe and taking it over while the locals fight amongst themselves. Eventually, Rome's former empire and Persia's empire would be ruled by a Persian from the city of Ctesiphon. Perhaps it could have been a peaceful united world.

What i think would happen would be that The Roman Empire would continue to be it's Pagan lving state, and then the Jews would be detroyed by the Romans, and the few survivors would flee to the Arabian Peninsula and convert alot of the people there. Then the Romans would expand North and defeat the Germans, because they would accept their Religion(unlike when they turned Christian). Then they would be perfectly able to combat the Barbarians that would have destroyed them. They would then keep their borders, seeing how they would be just about as large as they could be. They would focus on defence and economic dominance, and when that Persian Army came trucking they would be able to meet it head on and beat the crap out of it. So then the Persians would try to go east and take India, where they would be defeated by the Indians(just like Alexander was). Eventually, the world would be divided into four "worlds", if you will. The Roman World, the Eastern World(Baisically, all of Arabia, Persia, and India that wasn't conquered by the Romans), the Oriental World(China, Japan, Korea, and Tibet. And YES, the Romans DID know about the Chinese and stuff, via the Silk Road and explorers. They just had very little contact), and the Barbarian World(everywhere else).

Oh, and the Persians would never be peacefull if they took over Rome. They would slaughter, pillage, and destroy all of Europes Cultures and replace them with Persian culture. That would make the Persians have very few allies, even amoung people like the Scythians or the Germans. The Romans took over so much because they accepted all cultures. Besides, the Persians couldn't control such a large Empire. You are baisically proposing an empire stretching from the Indus(or the Hindu Kush) to the Atlantic, and from the Libyan desert to the Baltic Sea. The Romans could barely control their Empire, even with their abundance of Resources, men, and how they treated their conquered lands well. An Empire on the scale you are proposing would collapse within 30 years. Persia just didn't have the resources, men, or morale to pull off such a move. They also didn't have the administrative capacity. Sure, the Parthian Empire was good, but it wasn't that good. If the Persians just took over all of Romes provinces in Asia and Egypt, that would be possible, but not much further.
The Lightning Star
12-02-2005, 01:12
Then I'd warp the US military back and have them destroy Persia's enemies. No nation deserved what the Arabs did to the Sassanids, they tried to destroy Persian culture and race, Persian language, Persian religion, and Persia's history.

The Persians would have done the same, boy. Hell, they tried to wipe out the Indians and the Greeks. Did they get very far? No.

Besides, why would the U.S. army fight for the Persians(which came before Iran, which America hates)? Sure, The Iranian army would fight for the Persians, but no one else.
The Parthians
12-02-2005, 03:34
The Persians would have done the same, boy. Hell, they tried to wipe out the Indians and the Greeks. Did they get very far? No.

Besides, why would the U.S. army fight for the Persians(which came before Iran, which America hates)? Sure, The Iranian army would fight for the Persians, but no one else.

Because fighting for the Persians means there would be no muslims in Iran and thus no Islamic "Republic" of Iran.
The Lightning Star
12-02-2005, 05:13
Because fighting for the Persians means there would be no muslims in Iran and thus no Islamic "Republic" of Iran.

No, but they wouldn't be fighting for a cause. Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Egypt are all muslim states(with Pakistan being an Islamic Republic), so they would fight with a passion, for a common religion and a common goal. The Americans would be fighting for a different culture, language, religion, nation, different everythig! They would turn on the Persians and make their country "The United States of American Persia".
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
12-02-2005, 16:26
The Final Countdown! Very good movie.

And it was an air assault, not an invasion! What if they shot down those planes? That would've made WWII interesting.

You're right it was an air assault.

It seems everybody is going back to ancient history but, what about JFK's assassination. Would you stop it and how do you think it would have affected the Vietnam war, etc?
Corneliu
12-02-2005, 16:27
You're right it was an air assault.

It seems everybody is going back to ancient history but, what about JFK's assassination. Would you stop it and how do you think it would have affected the Vietnam war, etc?

JFK would've gotten blamed for Nam and it would've cost him. Instead the blame fell on LBJ!

Also, I don't think we would've beaten the Russians to the moon if he wasn't assassinated.
Kraytia
12-02-2005, 17:00
I would go to the 19th century and give Indians assault rifles, mortars and stuff. Wonder how US Cavalry would do against them then.

Or then I would go to Alexandria of the 1st century and tell Heron to keep improving his steam ball, hopefully starting industrial revolution.
New Anthrus
12-02-2005, 17:21
I would go back to the Persian Empire, and rule it knowing what I know. I expect that our modern state would come about a millenium early.
Lries
12-02-2005, 18:30
I don't know if anyones already said this or not, since I'm not reading 9 pages of posts, but I would go back to the time of the Spanish civil war, and destroy the Nationalists, then the communists in the Republican army.

The Anarchists will take over Spain, and when (the more enlightened parts of) the rest of the world notice that a prosperous society can exist without capitalism, and social and economic equality is possible, and the most of the world will be controlled by Sydicates.

I can only dream.
Bitchkitten
12-02-2005, 19:10
I would go to the 19th century and give Indians assault rifles, mortars and stuff. Wonder how US Cavalry would do against them then.

Or then I would go to Alexandria of the 1st century and tell Heron to keep improving his steam ball, hopefully starting industrial revolution.

I've had many fantasies of going back to about 1500 and arming the Indians. Then I'd tell them to shoot the first person who stepped off a ship.
Of course this would mean I'd be born in Europe (most likely, though I'm 1/8th Cherokee) and Europe might not have been as democratic as it is now.
Straughn
12-02-2005, 21:29
I would go back sevearl thousand years before humans had arrived in the continent of North America and irradiate it using hundurds of neutron bombs, making it uninabitable for sevearl millinea (maybe I will just leave neutron devices pumping high level Gamma radation all across America) and see how the world political shape turns out in the 20th century.
Wow, to say the least a LITTLE unexpected from you, given your tenacity on the "come n get me" post by Heikoku (sp) ....
Straughn
12-02-2005, 21:36
I would go 24 hours back in time and masturbate.
Do you mean, you'd go back in time 24 hours and FIND YOURSELF, then convincing yourself to masturbate, or would the now you masturbate in front of the old you, or would the two of you mutually masturbate (or go a little further into one of those tightly-kept secrets)?
It boggles the mind.
Straughn
12-02-2005, 21:38
i'd go back to invent fire and the wheel, hail me. :D
How do we know you didn't or haven't already?
Let's all hail ... wait a minute, what is the name of the individual(s) who invented fire? ... Hmmm, well the wheel, and all its glory, high-fives for ... who was it again?
That kind of hailing?
*thinks and slinks off into obscurity*
Straughn
12-02-2005, 21:40
Do you mean, you'd go back in time 24 hours and FIND YOURSELF, then convincing yourself to masturbate, or would the now you masturbate in front of the old you, or would the two of you mutually masturbate (or go a little further into one of those tightly-kept secrets)?
It boggles the mind.
Actually a person could learn a lot of pointers in 24 hours on successful masturbation (example of non-successful = falling asleep before finishing). I suppose you'd bring adequate props and accessories?
Straughn
12-02-2005, 21:45
Isn't there a movie where a modern nuclear driven aircraft carrier warps to Dec. 7 1941? What if they interfered with the Japanese invasion instead of staying out of it???
The Final Countdown. Kirk Douglas (Issur Danielovich) stars as the Capt. Yellon or Yelland of the ship, there are other somewhat significant human stars and a dog.
Good flick.
As is, maybe a review of information potential is at issue here:
At any given moment in a non-static universe the potential to turn events is in a curious state of being and nonbeing at the same time. To wit, what would happen is what does happen given enough of the circumstances and enough of the time. I personally don't fear the idea of f*cking history up, including my own, but i do have a sense of value judgment of suffering and other people's lives, especially if it ends up resting on my decisions. So that would obviously alter/curtail any significant changes in this timeline. But it sure as hell wouldn't stop me from making the changes i saw fit if i could.
Straughn
12-02-2005, 21:52
Probably one of the basic physical constants (way back in time to do this) Planck's would be a good one.
Buh!?
What, praytell, do you intend to use as your necessarily-encapsulated environment in order to gauge and facillitate any changes/shifts in the value of Planck's constant???
Ya know, there's at least one good sci-fi that talks about how this guy managed to make a time machine and went back to see how the expansion of the universe came about, following the big bang, thinking that it was just empty space to deal with, but indeed, the beginning of the singularity of the universe was aggrevated by the coincidence of all the other somewhat-wellwishing time travlers from all the other latter points in the universe historyline coming to observe what they deduced was the same phenomena. They ended up being the cause of the expansion and also had themselves disintegrated and exploded out upon an as-yet-undefined realm of the furthering of time and universal expansion. Heh.
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
13-02-2005, 02:40
JFK would've gotten blamed for Nam and it would've cost him. Instead the blame fell on LBJ!

Also, I don't think we would've beaten the Russians to the moon if he wasn't assassinated.

So you don't think JFK would've survived a second term, Vietnam or not? The problems with Vietnam weren't realized by the public until the late 60s.
I was discussing this idea with some friends and it was our line of thought that he would probably have gone two full terms as President and that it was possible that LBJ would have become President for at least one term after. Having said that, would Richard Nixon still have been elected? Would the outcome of Vietnam have been the same? Are you sure the Russians would have beat us to the Moon?

Might be an interesting what if novel...
Swimmingpool
13-02-2005, 02:49
I wouldn't change anything. Who knows what the world would be like if I did?
Corneliu
13-02-2005, 02:52
So you don't think JFK would've survived a second term, Vietnam or not? The problems with Vietnam weren't realized by the public until the late 60s.

Vietnam ended LBJs presidency! It would've ended Kennedy's too!

I was discussing this idea with some friends and it was our line of thought that he would probably have gone two full terms as President and that it was possible that LBJ would have become President for at least one term after. Having said that, would Richard Nixon still have been elected? Would the outcome of Vietnam have been the same? Are you sure the Russians would have beat us to the Moon?

The outcome would've been the same because of Micromanagement. If Kennedy wasn't assassinated, would have have micromanaged the war the sameway that LBJ did? That would've been a very interesting question. As for the Moon, yes, I do believe that they would have. Reason being, we went there because of Kennedy's assassination. We felt that it should've been achieved. In a way, Kennedy was a martar that spurred on our space program.

Might be an interesting what if novel...

I concur highly. I'll write Harry Turtledove and see if he could do it but he's busy with another series that I want to see end.
Prosophia
13-02-2005, 11:49
If you could go back in time and change one thing, what would it be?
Honestly, I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable about changing something big - so it'd be pretty mundane, something that was very recent, and something that didn't affect much of anyone else (because how am I to know whether it might be for the best in the end?).

So, right now, the one thing I can think of is that, when a professor from a grad school called to ask me to visit, I would change it so that I did a better job of catching his name... or at least admitting that I totally didn't catch it, rather than using a different name. Ugh.

But I haven't faced any consequences of that one (yet), good or bad - just annoyance at myself. Which is why it's something I'd be willing to go back and change.

I'm totally sure that if I answer this question again in 2 weeks or a month, my answer will be different - something much more recent for that time.
North Island
13-02-2005, 11:54
I would go back to the late 18th century early 19th century America and I would not change a thing. Just live on a plantation in the South (NO SLAVES) and have it nice.
Prosophia
13-02-2005, 11:57
I would go back to the late 18th century early 19th century America and I would not change a thing. Just live on a plantation in the South (NO SLAVES) and have it nice.
Yeah, but wouldn't the cultural implications of living in a world/area in which most people still supported slavery (or thought of it as a non-issue) bother you?
North Island
13-02-2005, 12:00
Yeah, but wouldn't the cultural implications of living in a worlda/area in which most people still supported slavery (or thought of it as a non-issue) bother you?

I would not change the way of life for those people at that time.
Prosophia
13-02-2005, 12:04
I would not change the way of life for those people at that time.
That's not what I was asking - I was wondering whether it would bother you, personally, to choose to live in a time during which people led a slave-supported lifestyle?

Although there are some amazing aspects of the antebellum period in the American South, I would not want to choose that time for myself, because I imagine (going back to that time, with my modern ideas in tow) that I would have trouble witnessing the day-to-day abuses of people in slavery without agitating for change.
North Island
13-02-2005, 12:11
That's not what I was asking - I was wondering whether it would bother you, personally, to choose to live in a time during which people led a slave-supported lifestyle?

Although there are some amazing aspects of the antebellum period in the American South, I would not want to choose that time for myself, because I imagine (going back to that time, with my modern ideas in tow) that I would have trouble witnessing the day-to-day abuses of people in slavery without agitating for change.

It would not bother me if people were working in the fields but seeing them punished like some animal would bother me very much.
Prosophia
13-02-2005, 12:25
It would not bother me if people were working in the fields but seeing them punished like some animal would bother me very much.
Which is (sadly) what a lot of slaveowners - early Americans - the founders of America - were doing to their slaves.
CMcB
13-02-2005, 12:29
probably beginning of time...and make it so that when i was born...i became the ultimate dictator of all....and got to rule everyone... :p :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: :gundge:
North Island
13-02-2005, 12:31
Well, I would not be one of them. Just a landowner.
Prosophia
13-02-2005, 12:39
Well, I would not be one of them. Just a landowner.
You don't think that by quietly living in that era, and buying land, that you'd be endorsing the slave culture of the time?

I believe there is some truth to the idea that moral/immoral behavior includes both action and inaction.

(Although I am far from perfect and don't always act on that belief - ah, well.)
Jeruselem
13-02-2005, 13:37
Here's the paradox. If you change history, there's a chance the inventor of the time machine you use might not have been born or never taken the steps to create it. This means what you did never happened.
I am a bananaville
13-02-2005, 13:44
I would teach Bush Senior proper condom use....then we wouldn't be in this fix now. Stupid broken rubber!
Corneliu
13-02-2005, 14:09
I would teach Bush Senior proper condom use....then we wouldn't be in this fix now. Stupid broken rubber!

I'd make sure that your father knows the samething!
Ultimate_apocalypse
10-03-2005, 19:54
I would go back and make my friend two minutes later, then he would drive into the open field instead of hitting that semi-truck ending his life.
Occidio Multus
10-03-2005, 20:17
i would jesus to have sex with me. no easy task, but maybe i could tell him my tatoos needed to be healed.
New Sancrosanctia
10-03-2005, 20:19
i would jesus to have sex with me. no easy task, but maybe i could tell him my tatoos needed to be healed.
holy crap. get in a three way with our lord and savior and mary magdalene, the retired prostitute. do it. do it for the sake of mankind.
Keruvalia
10-03-2005, 20:21
i would jesus to have sex with me. no easy task, but maybe i could tell him my tatoos needed to be healed.

Jesus: By your faith are you healed.
Occidio: I think it may be worse than that, Oh Lord.
Jesus: Then by my touch alone are you healed.
Occidio: Could we do that from the inside?

Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

Now that's a porn I'd pay to see. (Incidently, I played Jesus in Theater Northeast's production of Jesus Christ Superstar. *nudge* *nudge*)

Anyway, what would I change? I'd have had that sandwich yesterday afternoon. I bet it was yummy. Now it is past.
Panotonia
10-03-2005, 20:38
I'd go back to the time of Alexander The Great, taking with me vaccines for typhoid and treatment for peritonitis, so he lives longer and strengthens his empire. I could advise him on courses for action.

Then I'd go back to the future and see what I've changed. What do you think will have changed? I can't predict changes made to 21st century society from time-tampering made in 230 BC.
Occidio Multus
10-03-2005, 20:40
Jesus: By your faith are you healed.
Occidio: I think it may be worse than that, Oh Lord.
Jesus: Then by my touch alone are you healed.
Occidio: Could we do that from the inside?

Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

Now that's a porn I'd pay to see. (Incidently, I played Jesus in Theater Northeast's production of Jesus Christ Superstar. *nudge* *nudge*)

Anyway, what would I change? I'd have had that sandwich yesterday afternoon. I bet it was yummy. Now it is past.
i am very receptive to those nudges. VERY.
Gooooold
10-03-2005, 22:07
I wouldn't change anything. Basically because there is no way of knowing how it would effect the 'future'. Anything you change, big or small, may have a negative or positive effect, regardless of your intentions when you changed that particular thing.