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Ah, now this is the question (and a nice unique topic, too)!

Are they considered people? I don't think so. I mean, look, they are reanimated bodies produced by a virus. Once a person is reanimated, he/she is not like the person once was, therefore, said person does not have a PERSONality anymore! Another fact that could be included is that everything that makes up a person (such as emotions) are therefore gone once he/she is a zombie.

So, when/if you ever encounter a zombie (be it a relative, friend or whatnot), be prepared to pull the trigger!!! I know I would without a second thought, even if it was a close relative because they're not that relative anymore.

In Day of the dead a reanimated zombie of a soldier was still capable of remembering and displaying the behaviors it had in life. I'm going to say yes. They are people.

No, people don't eat each others brains. Except Cannibels. So I guess Cannibels arn't people either.

Being a zombie myself, I take great offense to any claims against my humanity. Just because I eat other people and are slowly decomposing doesn't make me a monster!

Well it might not make you a monster, but it doesn't make you a person. And we don't consider machines and computers to be people, yet we can programme them to express emotion. That doesn't make machines people, does it?

I mean, in Day of the Dead Bub was pretty interesting the way he was trained, but that's just like programming him just as a computer. We can do that with animals too (I tought my cat to do tricks).

Well it might not make you a monster, but it doesn't make you a person. And we don't consider machines and computers to be people, yet we can programme them to express emotion. That doesn't make machines people, does it?

I mean, in Day of the Dead Bub was pretty interesting the way he was trained, but that's just like programming him just as a computer. We can do that with animals too (I tought my cat to do tricks).
Yeah, but he had a human brain. Retards are people despite the fact that some are no more aware than Bub was.

Rob Zombie is a person...

Barely!

Zombies are people I tells ya!

why do zombies eat brains?

I feel that zombies that don't develop instincts (technically all of them?) are not human/people.

they are mindless.

You're all racists! I bet next you're going to say vampires and werewolfs aren't people! Just because they're different and like to eat brains, we all have differnent tastes in food you know!

Well.... keep in mind that there are different types of Zombies such as the Romero movie zombies (Day of the Dead, etc.), T-Virus (Resident Evil) zombies, headcrab zombies (from Half Life), the Solanum zombie (from the Zombie Survival Guide), and many more.

Specifically, the Solanum Zombie cannot be trained like the Romero zombie (it says it right in the book), and so far, I don't think any of the other zombies can either.... unless you want to include Return Of The Living Dead zombies which can talk and everything!

For the most part, I don't think that they can be considered people UNTIL they have been trained (like Bub).

EDIT: Vampires can be considered people (but not Werewolves, Werewolves are considered animals... Wolves) but lets stick to the Zombie topic here.

why do zombies eat brains?

I feel that zombies that don't develop instincts (technically all of them?) are not human/people.

they are mindless.
It makes the pain of being a decomposing body stop for a bit.

Are they considered people? I don't think so. I mean, look, they are reanimated bodies produced by a virus.
Who says they're reanimated bodies produced by a virus? In Caribbean traditions, viruses don't come into it, it's all occult. In Shadowrun, they're heavily, heavily mechanised people kept alive by a mixture of magic and science.
You can't just assume that the Romero trilogy is canonical.
But no, they're not people.

Zombies are people who have been drugged with tetradatoxin by witch doctors so as to simulate death, buried, and dug up later by the witch doctors and fed a dutera mush that saps their wills so they can be turned into slaves. So yes, they are people.

Zombies arent people, instead ex-people. Depends what you define as a person really. A zombie is the reanimation of a dead body so it only has movement and the instinct so kill and feed.

Zombies are people who have been drugged with tetradatoxin by witch doctors so as to simulate death, buried, and dug up later by the witch doctors and fed a dutera mush that saps their wills so they can be turned into slaves. So yes, they are people.
I haven't used tetrodotoxin myself, but I have used datura to trip. It's pretty fucked up, and I wouldn't reccomend it (quite lethal in the wrong dosage), but it hardly sapped my will.

Who says they're reanimated bodies produced by a virus? In Caribbean traditions, viruses don't come into it, it's all occult. In Shadowrun, they're heavily, heavily mechanised people kept alive by a mixture of magic and science.
You can't just assume that the Romero trilogy is canonical.
But no, they're not people.

Actually, the Zombie Survival Guide states that Voodoo zombies are the result of someone inhaling a toxic "Zombie Powder" actually made up of dangerous herbs and poisons (the powder is created by Voodoo priests). Modern scientific research as shown that this Voodoo Zombie Powder causes brain damadge in it's users and causes the person to have the mentality similar to a zombie. What separates these zombies from the viral zombie are the fact that they: show emotion, exibit thought, do not try to eat other people, feel pain, recognize fire, recognize their surroundings, can communicate, and can be controlled. These are all things a viral zombie cannot do.

The voodoo zombie is actually true, by the way. It's only myth and legend that say voodoo zombies actually eat people (they actually don't and are really brain-damadged retards).

Oh, and by the way, not all zombies want to eat brains.

Zombies aren't people. Zombies ARE the people!

Let us all remember last election, and just how many people didn't bother to vote. Dissatisfaction mixed with apathy leads to zombie-like behavior.

Zombie is derogatory and insulting term, they prefer to be called 'living impaired' .

Zombies? People? It depends how you define zombies. In real-life "zombies" are people. Movie/book/game zombies aren't. If you can't tell the difference between real life and movies, [fictional] books, and games, then there's a deeper problem.

Although I understand that sometimes people are "In-Character" on the NationStates forums or are referring to the fictional zombies only. I hope so.

Zombies are not people because it is alright to kill them, even in mass numbers.

Just like hookers...

Zombies are not people because it is alright to kill them, even in mass numbers.

Just like hookers...
So what kind of van are you driving nowadays?

So what kind of van are you driving nowadays?
Oh, the same old, white Ford Econoline.

Using Shawn of the Dead as canonical evidence, I would say that zombies are in fact people and will, after Z-Day is over, become an important part of our reality TV and menial labour force.

Ah, now this is the question (and a nice unique topic, too)!

Are they considered people? I don't think so. I mean, look, they are reanimated bodies produced by a virus. Once a person is reanimated, he/she is not like the person once was, therefore, said person does not have a PERSONality anymore! Another fact that could be included is that everything that makes up a person (such as emotions) are therefore gone once he/she is a zombie.

So, when/if you ever encounter a zombie (be it a relative, friend or whatnot), be prepared to pull the trigger!!! I know I would without a second thought, even if it was a close relative because they're not that relative anymore.
Don't confuse a Zombie and a Ghoul: Night of the Living Dead had talking undead thus Ghouls. Ghouls are Undead that aren't mindless and can talk, but still canibals (didn't eat brains just flesh. Brain is a fleshy meal i guess).

So Zombies are mindless so not a person. Ghouls are person just cruel.

i say they are
they are just like people just they have been dead

Is is definatly an issue depending on view. There are those who think of zombies as brain eating monsters while other view them as everyday citizens capible of normal living, only in a dead body. It's like elves. there are santa elves and then elves like myself, the strong knowledgable ancient folk...so yea. whatever,

Was Jesus a zombie?

I personally think that Zombies and Vampires cannot be considered seeing as they are undead. Meaning that at one point they were dead, and left their humanity behind. However, Werewolves are people, simply diseased people, until they transform.

You are all wrong and maybe well meaning. But you look only to stereotypes. Im undead but I do not rot. I died and live again, yet I do not eat brains, I just get on with a normal life. Us undead should be treated according to our behavior. If I ate brains, it would be reasonable to shoot me.

I haven't used tetrodotoxin myself, but I have used datura to trip. It's pretty fucked up, and I wouldn't reccomend it (quite lethal in the wrong dosage), but it hardly sapped my will.

It's actually a potion made from a "sacred dutera cactus", which I don't know if is the same as common dutera or not, but anyway is not untreated but rather is processed somehow and possibly has other psychotropic additives.

Tetradatoxin (I edited the spelling) is commonly found in puffer- and blow-fish, such as fugu, and is used to make ibogaine, a paralytic drug that keeps the recipient totally conscious and sensate. If you saw "The Serpent and the Rainbow" it was about a US doctor who went to Haiti to unlock the secret of the tetradatoxin used by the voudun witch doctors there. His patrons wanted to use it as an anesthetic, but this did not work as it only paralyzes and does not anesthesize.

Try that for a trip. Or try it with katamine, which, long before its current club-drug popularity as "special K" was referenced in "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers" as a drug that produces a three-day nightmare. Or try it with yohimbine HCl, a powerful natural aphodesiac. Nice trip when you can't even touch yourself. ;)

Sure, they're people. Just dead people.

Are all people zombies? (http://www.sendmoreparamedics.com/SendMoreParamedics.htm)

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If I say 'No, zombie aren't people', will we be able to stop them from voting?
They're the problem. All those votes Bush got that couldn't be accounted for, those were th zombies.

Are all people zombies? (http://www.sendmoreparamedics.com/SendMoreParamedics.htm)

I just thought a random but appropriate link for this thread.

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THAT IS AWESOME!!!

I can't believe they get to run around in zombie makeup and play loud music for a living!

I should try that, except I'm no good with music, so I'll skip that bit. Maybe I'll bite people instead.