NationStates Jolt Archive

(Note - if this looks like flamebait- sorry, that's not at all what I'm trying to do.)

1. Gay Marriage is OK.

2. War in Iraq is BS.

3. There's no god (that we know of.)

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

5. Bush sucks. (Kerry does also, but sucks less.)

6. American entertainment industry makes us stupid and ignorant. It would be good for us if they were more creative, had a streak of meaningful human values (which CAN actually be entertaining also), and challenged us to think more.

7. American media is loaded with propaganda, more on the right wing side than the left (though it exists on the left as well, nowhere near what the righties would have you beleive.)

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.

9. Even if an honest third party rose to major power, the need to maintain power (and capability of effectivley doing so) has a good chance of rendering them just as dishonest as those in power right now. (This does NOT get the existing parties off the hook.

10. The real answer for America is a fundamental change in our culture to actually care about the world, our own governments, and be more educated and active so that corruption and propaganda nonsense won't be tolerated and won't fool us.

11. Even though there is no god, we still can have a purpose. Since we are capable of enjoying and desiring a happy existence (for whatever reason - chemical reaction in the brain?? doesn't matter) we should take advantage of what short time we have to be happy. Also, don't harm or prevent other people's pursuits of their own happyness, and if you want, even help them out now and them.

12. Evolution, not creationism. Their levels of 'faith' are completley different. Evolution is so much more tested and backed that the 'leaps' of assumption we grant it are wholly incomparable to those we make for religion.

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.

Hope you took notes- those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything! You can thank me later when you all become millionaires and popular with everybody and live perfect lives.

4. Capitalism, not socialism.


Question...What exactly do you mean by "capitalism"? Are we talking unrestrained laissez-faire capitalism, or a more mixed-market kind of thing with government involvement? (i.e. Scandinavia, Western Europe, or Canada)

those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything!
Sorry, but you are wrong. The only answer you need to know is forty-two.

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

The only one that you got wrong, or that needs more clarification.

Under "pure" capitalism, the sick or unemployed (or unemployable e.g. handicapped) are left to starve, or turn to crime to survive.

Health and education are solely dependent on income, not need or ability.

Children can be exploited.

Large corporations can agree to restrict competition and artificially fix prices.

"Robber barons" quickly arise.

The portrait of such a world can be found in many writings of the time when capitalism was unrestrained, perhaps best in the works of Dickens.

People are more important than profits.

None of us really live in the mythical construct called an "economy", but all of us live in a community or neighbourhood.

Capitalism has proved its efficiency over the command economies that have been trialled so far, but is a cold, heartless and uncaring beast that needs restraint.

go to the love doctor and discuss love issues

Sorry, but you are wrong. The only answer you need to know is forty-two.

"What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
:)

Too bad Douglas Adams is dead.
Let's go dig him up!
:p

Bunglejinx are you american?

those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything!
Everything you know is wrong.

Many of the truths we cling to depend upon our point of view.

3. There's no god (that we know of.)


Prove it, please.

hmm already I don't like you. too sure of yourself. A trait becoming more and more common in jedi. Even the older ones.

Everything you know is wrong.
..."White is black, up is down, and short is long!
And everything you thought was just so
Important doesn't matter

Everything you know is wrong
Just forget the words and sing along
All you need to understand is
Everything you know is wrong..."

Sorry, I just -had- to burst into song.

Bunglejinx are you american?

maybe..but i am, and i agree with just about everything he said.

I agree with each statement made.

3. There's no god (that we know of.)There is no proof of that, so why are you making a rash decision? I can just as easily say there is a God, we just have not made direct contact with him/her/it (?)

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

5. Bush sucks. (Kerry does also, but sucks less.)

6. American entertainment industry makes us stupid and ignorant. It would be good for us if they were more creative, had a streak of meaningful human values (which CAN actually be entertaining also), and challenged us to think more.

7. American media is loaded with propaganda, more on the right wing side than the left (though it exists on the left as well, nowhere near what the righties would have you beleive.)
To the uber-max, d00d

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.
I can drum with my pencils, does that count?

9. Even if an honest third party rose to major power, the need to maintain power (and capability of effectivley doing so) has a good chance of rendering them just as dishonest as those in power right now. (This does NOT get the existing parties off the hook.

10. The real answer for America is a fundamental change in our culture to actually care about the world, our own governments, and be more educated and active so that corruption and propaganda nonsense won't be tolerated and won't fool us.

Yes, Yes

11. Even though there is no god, we still can have a purpose. Since we are capable of enjoying and desiring a happy existence (for whatever reason - chemical reaction in the brain?? doesn't matter) we should take advantage of what short time we have to be happy. Also, don't harm or prevent other people's pursuits of their own happyness, and if you want, even help them out now and them.

Again, there is no proof either way. And I believe in God and I don't need God to have a purpose. My purpose is to the good version of Hitler.
12. Evolution, not creationism. Their levels of 'faith' are completley different. Evolution is so much more tested and backed that the 'leaps' of assumption we grant it are wholly incomparable to those we make for religion.
Evolution, yes

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.
Yes but who knew it was a country ever since it got swallowed up by Germany?

Hope you took notes- those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything! You can thank me later when you all become millionaires and popular with everybody and live perfect lives.

Gee, you mean like Hitler? 'cuz it seems like Hitler would agree with everything you said.



(Seriously, I didn't mean to flamebait either. I'm a sarcasm machine)

Let's solve this now before a flame-war starts.
HEY LOOK! A PINK FLUFFY BUNNY!
*throw a bunch of bubble wrap and balloons around while everybody's looking at the bunny*

Now how can you be angry with balloons and bubble wrap?

There is no proof of that, so why are you making a rash decision? I can just as easily say there is a God, we just have not made direct contact with him/her/it (?)

Hmm but if we did this in say a legal investigation, we could say "With reasonable doubt" he does not. You can win on a maybe not here, not a maybe.

Hmm but if we did this in say a legal investigation, we could say "With reasonable doubt" he does not. You can win on a maybe not here, not a maybe.
Just as easily, in a legal investigation by some REALLY good investigators, the question "Well where did everything come from? Based on scientific law, atoms are neither created nor destroyed."

You can come to your own conclusion of what the result from that type of investigation would be.

Besides, science cannot figure out the question of "Is there a God?" with out current technology. So that's why we have faith. But it's also why we have science. I follow both, so I don't think I'm biased here. I'm just balancing your argument.

I agree with everything he said. and if god does exist, i bet he's a pansy

Just as easily, in a legal investigation by some REALLY good investigators, the question "Well where did everything come from? Based on scientific law, atoms are neither created nor destroyed."

You can come to your own conclusion of what the result from that type of investigation would be.

Besides, science cannot figure out the question of "Is there a God?" with out current technology. So that's why we have faith. But it's also why we have science. I follow both, so I don't think I'm biased here. I'm just balancing your argument.

True true, but with all argument there's no physical evidence to say God exists. And without the argument from a christian etc no one would care to look.

Say if no one was murdered no one looks for a murder, if we removed christians would we still try and find rationale reasons for creation? Just wondering.

True true, but with all argument there's no physical evidence to say God exists. And without the argument from a christian etc no one would care to look.

Say if no one was murdered no one looks for a murder, if we removed christians would we still try and find rationale reasons for creation? Just wondering.
I'll assume that by Christian, you mean everyone that believes in God. Because I'm a Muslim.

Actually, scientists would be rather intrigued by the question that also ponders real scientists if there was no one who believed in God. Question being "Where did everything came from?" The law of atoms that states "Atoms are neither created nor destroyed" suggests that there is nothing in the universe, because such a universe cannot exist. How can we have a universe if the basic things that create a universe cannot be created?

I'll assume that by Christian, you mean everyone that believes in God. Because I'm a Muslim.

Actually, scientists would be rather intrigued by the question that also ponders real scientists if there was no one who believed in God. Question being "Where did everything came from?" The law of atoms that states "Atoms are neither created nor destroyed" suggests that there is nothing in the universe, because such a universe cannot exist. How can we have a universe if the basic things that create a universe cannot be created?
Excuse my ignorance on that part.

True, but I beleive the search would be based on evidence and fact, be called "Where did the world evolve" not "Is there a God".

My two cents is free (Eminem...credit where it's due.) :sniper:

1. Gay Marriage is OK.
Bingo. You are correct, who is anyone to tell another whom they can or cannot artner with? And the argument "Gays can marry, just not each other" is assinine because it restricts their freedom in a way which would be meaningless to a heterosexual (although I think we should all be angered by restrictions to our freedom, meaningful or not...)

2. War in Iraq is BS.
No. The reasons that were given by the Bush administration were BS. The war itself is good. See my reasoning at my 'blog The Hypothetical Job (http://www.xanga.com/jm9584).

3. There's no god (that we know of.)
Also correct. None of the gods of organized religion exist. Any god(s) that exist do not (or have not in recorded history) interfered in the observable universe, therfore we must assume that none exist unless actual evidence comes to light. The world would be better off if people took responsibility for themselves instead of depending on a mythical "Daddy-in-the-sky".

4. Capitalism, not socialism.
For the most part. Some governmental restriction and assistance is neceicary.

5. Bush sucks. (Kerry does also, but sucks less.)
My words exactly.

6. American entertainment industry makes us stupid and ignorant. It would be good for us if they were more creative, had a streak of meaningful human values (which CAN actually be entertaining also), and challenged us to think more.
No. People being stupid and ignorant has nothing to do with the entertainment industry, it has to do with parents, society, and educational systems. As far as creativity and human values go...well, it's capitialism. They produce what generates profit. Those who don't like it can get their jollies somewhere else. Simple economic theory.

7. American media is loaded with propaganda, more on the right wing side than the left (though it exists on the left as well, nowhere near what the righties would have you beleive.)
Anyone who thinks the media gives a damn about impartiality for its own sake is a moron. Broadcast companies are still companies and the rules of capitalist economics still apply. They show what gets ratings or what people pay them to show. Simple as that. If you want impartial, find someone who's business depends on their reputation for impartiality (if you can...)

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.
I agree. That goes along with a list Heinlein once wrote... Sadly, i've forgotten.

9. Even if an honest third party rose to major power, the need to maintain power (and capability of effectivley doing so) has a good chance of rendering them just as dishonest as those in power right now. (This does NOT get the existing parties off the hook.
Agreed, but that makes the assumption that honesty was a part of the party to begin with. Just remember, all "third parties" arose in times of crisis and both parties now were once "third parties".

10. The real answer for America is a fundamental change in our culture to actually care about the world, our own governments, and be more educated and active so that corruption and propaganda nonsense won't be tolerated and won't fool us.
I agree that a fundamental culture change is nececiary, but some parts of the world don't need caring, they need killing. Most citizens are too apathetic about our political system and are too fucking stupid to live (and yet we let them...) But propoganda and corruption will always be around.

11. Even though there is no god, we still can have a purpose. Since we are capable of enjoying and desiring a happy existence (for whatever reason - chemical reaction in the brain?? doesn't matter) we should take advantage of what short time we have to be happy. Also, don't harm or prevent other people's pursuits of their own happyness, and if you want, even help them out now and them.
Hedonism. Not a bad philosophy in and of itself, although i don't entirely subscribe to it myself. I like how retards think that without religion there can be no morality or purpose, when, of course, there can. They simply become based on things other than myths.

12. Evolution, not creationism. Their levels of 'faith' are completley different. Evolution is so much more tested and backed that the 'leaps' of assumption we grant it are wholly incomparable to those we make for religion.
Yes. At least until a competing scientific theory comes along (ID is not science. Even if it's true, which isn't likely, it still wouldn't be science. If you don't understand, go look up the definition of science)

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.
Eh, Poland...

The law of atoms that states "Atoms are neither created nor destroyed"

Umm...no? You may be thinking of "The Law of conservation of matter/energy" which states that matter can neither be created nor destroyed (although you can convert it into energy).

Atoms can be destroyed, it happens all the time. Fission ring a bell? How about radiation?

No offense, but that is basic chemistry theory.

I agree, except for the "there is no God" thing... I believe there are indeed several gods, and goddesses. The earth is a goddess, the moon is a goddess, water is a goddess, fire is either a god or a goddess depending on it's form, et cetera.

I also disagree that that's the answer to everything ;) there are a number of other answers I can think of to other issues.

I agree, except for the "there is no God" thing... I believe there are indeed several gods, and goddesses. The earth is a goddess, the moon is a goddess, water is a goddess, fire is either a god or a goddess depending on it's form, et cetera.

I also disagree that that's the answer to everything ;) there are a number of other answers I can think of to other issues.

No, none of those things are gods or goddesses. They are planets, planetoids, molecules, and reactions. I do agree that there he didn't give the answers for everything.

Yes I'm american.. will be with you guys later to clarify some points...

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.




amen to that (in a non religious way)

<i>Gee, you mean like Hitler? 'cuz it seems like Hitler would agree with everything you said.</i>

Hitler would agree that Gay Marriage is OK, would he, given that he made homosexuals wear little pink triangles and put them in these things called 'concentration camps', i don't know if you've ever heard of them?

and Hitler would agree that there is no God that we know of, would he, given that he chose to present his moral standpoint as a 'christian' one?

i think that Hitler comment was just flamebait. and that makes me sad. :(

Let's solve this now before a flame-war starts.
HEY LOOK! A PINK FLUFFY BUNNY!
*throw a bunch of bubble wrap and balloons around while everybody's looking at the bunny*

Now how can you be angry with balloons and bubble wrap?

Bubble wrap killed my sister you heartless bastard!!!!!

Under "pure" capitalism, the sick or unemployed (or unemployable e.g. handicapped) are left to starve, or turn to crime to survive.


I wanted to find this post and respond some... for the capitalism point, there are a lot of threads where I argue about this and the discussion would have to be taken there...


Anyone who thinks the media gives a damn about impartiality for its own sake is a moron. Broadcast companies are still companies and the rules of capitalist economics still apply. They show what gets ratings or what people pay them to show. Simple as that. If you want impartial, find someone who's business depends on their reputation for impartiality (if you can...)
I do think that criticism of the government and a well-founded, rational inquiry into current day affairs is something people would want to see, and I think that there has been a concious effort made to prevent it from happening.

Thanks for the comments!

Bunglejinx are you american?
Yeah

Everything you know is wrong.
Umm...

Prove it, please.
Prove there is no god??? You must have had that discussion with someone before... you know how I can easily answer that (proof works the other way.. we can't prove anything DOESN'T exist, only that it can).

hmm already I don't like you. too sure of yourself. A trait becoming more and more common in jedi. Even the older ones.
I am completley sure that everything I said is absolutley flawlessly without... flaw.. FOREVER AND PERFECT!!

There is no proof of that, so why are you making a rash decision? I can just as easily say there is a God, we just have not made direct contact with him/her/it (?)

No proof that there isn't a god? Rash decision? I said "that we know of" which is a pretty important condition.

1. Gay Marriage is OK.

2. War in Iraq is BS.

3. I'm god

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

5. Bush and Kerry suck donkey and elephant balls

6. We make ourselves stupid and ignorant by watching the shit on TV. Reality TV is inherently evil and should have its balls ripped off and fed to a Rotteweiler.

7. the American media is loaded with propaganda, but the only people who can see it are those who don't like it

8. Everyone should pray to Baal or me.

9. The Fascist Party will destroy all. Heil.

10. The real answer for America is to fuck the world over and then isolate ourselves and throw hunks of poo at Tunisia, those bastards.

11. Just praise me, bitches.

12. Evolution is fine and dandy, but for christ's sake, you don't need to go apeshit if someone is a creationist.

13. Poland does not exist.

(Note - if this looks like flamebait- sorry, that's not at all what I'm trying to do.)

1. Gay Marriage is OK.

2. War in Iraq is BS.

3. There's no god (that we know of.)

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

5. Bush sucks. (Kerry does also, but sucks less.)

6. American entertainment industry makes us stupid and ignorant. It would be good for us if they were more creative, had a streak of meaningful human values (which CAN actually be entertaining also), and challenged us to think more.

7. American media is loaded with propaganda, more on the right wing side than the left (though it exists on the left as well, nowhere near what the righties would have you beleive.)

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.

9. Even if an honest third party rose to major power, the need to maintain power (and capability of effectivley doing so) has a good chance of rendering them just as dishonest as those in power right now. (This does NOT get the existing parties off the hook.

10. The real answer for America is a fundamental change in our culture to actually care about the world, our own governments, and be more educated and active so that corruption and propaganda nonsense won't be tolerated and won't fool us.

11. Even though there is no god, we still can have a purpose. Since we are capable of enjoying and desiring a happy existence (for whatever reason - chemical reaction in the brain?? doesn't matter) we should take advantage of what short time we have to be happy. Also, don't harm or prevent other people's pursuits of their own happyness, and if you want, even help them out now and them.

12. Evolution, not creationism. Their levels of 'faith' are completley different. Evolution is so much more tested and backed that the 'leaps' of assumption we grant it are wholly incomparable to those we make for religion.

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.

Hope you took notes- those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything! You can thank me later when you all become millionaires and popular with everybody and live perfect lives.

Well, let's see ...

1. Opinion
2. Opinion
3. Opinion
4. Opinion
5. Opinion
6. Opinion
7. Opinion
8. Opinion
9. Opinion
10. Opinion [ not to mention complete ignorance of the facts ]
11. Opinion
12. Opinion [ even though I tend to agree with this one ]
13. Fact

One out of 13? Hmmm. Sounds like you might need to learn to differentiate between "fact" and "opinion."

Not a bad post, but you could've backed up some of those blanket statements with some facts or stats.

Fantastic. You're right. I'd vote for you, Mr. President. And that's coming from the Creator of the Universe (tm).

These are always arogant and almost always posted by new arrivals. But, since I'm feeling arogant at the moment....
(Note - if this looks like flamebait- sorry, that's not at all what I'm trying to do.)
Haha. Kindling.

1. Gay Marriage is OK.
Yep.

2. War in Iraq is BS.
Sure is.

3. There's no god (that we know of.)
Yea huh. To the 'prove it' crowd: Prove I don't have a giant invisible bunny following me around giving me advice. Makes about as much sense. You want to believe, fine. Don't lay it on me.

4. Capitalism, not socialism.
We owe something back to the society that supports and allows us to succeed. The invisible hand has proved that if anything, it will rush us off a cliff at the first opportunity.

5. Bush sucks. (Kerry does also, but sucks less.)
Man, I would love to be finding out how much Kerry sucks right now...

6. American entertainment industry makes us stupid and ignorant. It would be good for us if they were more creative, had a streak of meaningful human values (which CAN actually be entertaining also), and challenged us to think more.
They do. You're not watching. It's not thier fault that more people respond to things blowing up, but movies and TV are expensive and the moneys got to come from somewhere. Though it'd be nice to have something like the Canadian Film Board...

7. American media is loaded with propaganda, more on the right wing side than the left (though it exists on the left as well, nowhere near what the righties would have you beleive.)
Reading media should be something that is taught like english, it has become just as important.

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.
Yes they should.

9. Even if an honest third party rose to major power, the need to maintain power (and capability of effectivley doing so) has a good chance of rendering them just as dishonest as those in power right now. (This does NOT get the existing parties off the hook.
There is an analogy about ice cream stands on the beach, but I'm not going to go into it here.

10. The real answer for America is a fundamental change in our culture to actually care about the world, our own governments, and be more educated and active so that corruption and propaganda nonsense won't be tolerated and won't fool us.
I already blew my read media comment. So I'll go with my break us into component parts bit-we should be four nations with and understanding. Or fifty.

11. Even though there is no god, we still can have a purpose. Since we are capable of enjoying and desiring a happy existence (for whatever reason - chemical reaction in the brain?? doesn't matter) we should take advantage of what short time we have to be happy. Also, don't harm or prevent other people's pursuits of their own happyness, and if you want, even help them out now and them.
I'm afraid of people who are only nice to others because they are afraid of some invisible entity. They are not actually nice people, but coerced horrible people.


12. Evolution, not creationism. Their levels of 'faith' are completley different. Evolution is so much more tested and backed that the 'leaps' of assumption we grant it are wholly incomparable to those we make for religion.
Why do we have to give time to the flat earthers? At least the Amish have the decency to leave the rest of us to advance.

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.
Only in so much(is that one word?) as he was not attempting to name every member of the 'coalition of the willing,' most of which it seemed just agreed not to say no.

Hope you took notes- those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything! You can thank me later when you all become millionaires and popular with everybody and live perfect lives.
Oh yeah, tough guy? Hows this gonna help me decide what to eat right now?

Well, let's see ...

1. Opinion
2. Opinion
3. Opinion
4. Opinion
5. Opinion
6. Opinion
7. Opinion
8. Opinion
9. Opinion
10. Opinion [ not to mention complete ignorance of the facts ]
11. Opinion
12. Opinion [ even though I tend to agree with this one ]
13. Fact

One out of 13? Hmmm. Sounds like you might need to learn to differentiate between "fact" and "opinion."

The sarcasm must have slipped under the radar.

And while we're at naming things as opinion:
Your response to #3: Incorrect
Your response to #10: Opinion
Your response to #12: Opinion
90% of posts on NS: Opinion
Idea that calling something an opinion suddenly makes it invalid: Opinion

And while we talk about #10... surely you've heard of the embarrasing Fox News Poll shows the staggering amount of misconceptions people had about Bush's positions? That's just one example. But it's a whole debate in itself.

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

I think you mixed those two up. It's CLEARLY supposed to read:

4. Socialism, not capitalism.

The sarcasm must have slipped under the radar.

And while we're at naming things as opinion:
Your response to #3: Incorrect
Your response to #10: Opinion
Your response to #12: Opinion
90% of posts on NS: Opinion
Idea that calling something an opinion suddenly makes it invalid: Opinion

And while we talk about #10... surely you've heard of the embarrasing Fox News Poll shows the staggering amount of misconceptions people had about Bush's positions? That's just one example. But it's a whole debate in itself.

Actually, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. You posited all of those as "fact." I was merely pointing out that all but one were "opinion." And nowhere did I indicate that just because something was an opinion made it in any way "invalid."

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.



I can't. Everything else is right, though.

Actually, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic.
He's talking about his sarcasm slipping under your radar there, slugger.

Then I apologize for the assumption.

My sarcasm comment was meant to tell you that I didn't actually intend to seriously tell you guys that my opinions are irrefutable fact. I was using it as a lighthearted way to introduce some of my beleifs.

There is an analogy about ice cream stands on the beach, but I'm not going to go into it here.

I have to admit that I haven't heard this one before! Would you go into it for me?

I can't. Everything else is right, though.
Start a cowbell solo album!!

I have to admit that I haven't heard this one before! Would you go into it for me?
I would, but I'm hungry. It's part of the game theory deally, so you can look it up that way-or one of the people here probably knows it and will explain it to you. I've found that you are almost never the only person thats heard of anything here.

The law of atoms that states "Atoms are neither created nor destroyed" suggests that there is nothing in the universe, because such a universe cannot exist. How can we have a universe if the basic things that create a universe cannot be created?

Matter is made up mostly of empty space anyway. And yeah, fission, and fusion is a form of "creating" and "destroying"(more like assimiliating). Maybe one very dense atom existed before time, and it can never be "created" nor "destroyed".

Maybe the concept of a "beggining" and an "end" is rather illusionary, since we are bound by biologocal life and death.

Matter is made up mostly of empty space anyway. And yeah, fission, and fusion is a form of "creating" and "destroying"(more like assimiliating). Maybe one very dense atom existed before time, and it can never be "created" nor "destroyed".

Maybe the concept of a "beggining" and an "end" is rather illusionary, since we are bound by biologocal life and death.

Well, technically, if it's empty space, it's not matter, since it needs to have mass to be matter. Also, fusion and fission are transformations . No mass is lost or gained in them. The enerngy remains exactly the same.

Well, technically, if it's empty space, it's not matter, since it needs to have mass to be matter. Also, fusion and fission are transformations . No mass is lost or gained in them. The enerngy remains exactly the same.

Well, then, then neither is created nor destroyed, but that doesnt necesarilly mean it has some magic poured on top of it.

Well, technically, if it's empty space, it's not matter, since it needs to have mass to be matter. Also, fusion and fission are transformations . No mass is lost or gained in them. The enerngy remains exactly the same.
conservation of mass and energy... looks like you paid attention when fine science teacher folks, like myself tried to teach you something.

He's talking about his sarcasm slipping under your radar there, slugger.

"Slugger!" Heh!

I know. I simply chose to play it totally straight, for once. :D

Well, technically, if it's empty space, it's not matter, since it needs to have mass to be matter. Also, fusion and fission are transformations . No mass is lost or gained in them. The enerngy remains exactly the same.

"Dark matter!" "Dark energy!" Run for your lives! :D

I have to admit that I haven't heard this one before! Would you go into it for me?
There's internet where the food is. What a world we live in.

Anyway...I'm going to botch this so instead of someone else explaining it to you they'll bash me for getting a detail wrong. I hope you're happy with yourself.

The idea is that there are two ice cream stands on the beach. The best way to serve the beach as a whole is to be one quarter of the way on either side. But one ice cream stand realises it can increase it's 'exclusive' territory by moving closer to the other ice cream stand, and the other ice cream stand does the same, continuing until the ice cream stands are back to back, leaving the ends of the beach without.

Theoratically until someone opens ice cream stands on those ends and starts the process again. Inevitably the ice cream stands end up in the middle.

"Dark matter!" "Dark energy!" Run for your lives! :D

The end is nigh! Alas! All is lost! All is lost!

Wait.....why am I screaming?

[QUOTE=New Genoa]... Reality TV is inherently evil and should have its balls ripped off and fed to a Rotteweiler...QUOTE]

inherently evil? I hate it how people throw this around these days. Money is inherently evil, the government is inherently evil, my t-shirt is inherently evil, bla bla bla...

ERROR!

HITLER was inherently evil, blowing up the world with a doomday device would be inherently evil......reality TV, maybe not so much eh? Poor quality entertainment filled with morons, probably. Sole purpose to destory society, spread it's evil message around the globe and 'cause pain and suffering to everyone on Earth...I guess not.


(BTW this was meant for a laugh as I doubt the original poster meant it that seriously but it works both ways :))

[QUOTE=New Genoa]... Reality TV is inherently evil and should have its balls ripped off and fed to a Rotteweiler...QUOTE]

inherently evil? I hate it how people throw this around these days. Money is inherently evil, the government is inherently evil, my t-shirt is inherently evil, bla bla bla...

ERROR!

HITLER was inherently evil, blowing up the world with a doomday device would be inherently evil......reality TV, maybe not so much eh? Poor quality entertainment filled with morons, probably. Sole purpose to destory society, spread it's evil message around the globe and 'cause pain and suffering to everyone on Earth...I guess not.


(BTW this was meant for a laugh as I doubt the original poster meant it that seriously but it works both ways :))

Of course, if we all thought the way Hitler did, then he would be inherently GOOD to us. ;)

(No, I don't think he was good.)

(Note - if this looks like flamebait- sorry, that's not at all what I'm trying to do.)

1. Gay Marriage is OK.

2. War in Iraq is BS.

3. There's no god (that we know of.)

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

5. Bush sucks. (Kerry does also, but sucks less.)

6. American entertainment industry makes us stupid and ignorant. It would be good for us if they were more creative, had a streak of meaningful human values (which CAN actually be entertaining also), and challenged us to think more.

7. American media is loaded with propaganda, more on the right wing side than the left (though it exists on the left as well, nowhere near what the righties would have you beleive.)

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.

9. Even if an honest third party rose to major power, the need to maintain power (and capability of effectivley doing so) has a good chance of rendering them just as dishonest as those in power right now. (This does NOT get the existing parties off the hook.

10. The real answer for America is a fundamental change in our culture to actually care about the world, our own governments, and be more educated and active so that corruption and propaganda nonsense won't be tolerated and won't fool us.

11. Even though there is no god, we still can have a purpose. Since we are capable of enjoying and desiring a happy existence (for whatever reason - chemical reaction in the brain?? doesn't matter) we should take advantage of what short time we have to be happy. Also, don't harm or prevent other people's pursuits of their own happyness, and if you want, even help them out now and them.

12. Evolution, not creationism. Their levels of 'faith' are completley different. Evolution is so much more tested and backed that the 'leaps' of assumption we grant it are wholly incomparable to those we make for religion.

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.

Hope you took notes- those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything! You can thank me later when you all become millionaires and popular with everybody and live perfect lives.
THANK YOU
this is going to save me so much time! no more need to think about these things and form my own opinions. i cant thank you enough!

THANK YOU
this is going to save me so much time! no more need to think about these things and form my own opinions. i cant thank you enough!

Nor can you use proper punctuation and capitalization. :)

you people and your grammer

Ok so heres the skinny. What are we proving? If matter can be created? What doesthat have to do with anything? IM sorry im just really lost

Sorry, but you are wrong. The only answer you need to know is forty-two.
Ah, but what is the question?

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.

Damn straight.

Ah, but what is the question?
6x7

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.
Poland - you are not forgotten!

Ok who the hell are you to say that everything you say is right? So what everyone else believes is wrong? That's stupid. you have no right to say what's right and wrong. Everyone is an individual and I hate to tell you, but the whole world doesn't agree with you, just becauseyou say so. And just because they don't, doesn't make them wrong...

(Note - if this looks like flamebait- sorry, that's not at all what I'm trying to do.)

1. Gay Marriage is OK.

2. War in Iraq is BS.

3. There's no god (that we know of.)

4. Capitalism, not socialism.

5. Bush sucks. (Kerry does also, but sucks less.)

6. American entertainment industry makes us stupid and ignorant. It would be good for us if they were more creative, had a streak of meaningful human values (which CAN actually be entertaining also), and challenged us to think more.

7. American media is loaded with propaganda, more on the right wing side than the left (though it exists on the left as well, nowhere near what the righties would have you beleive.)

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.

9. Even if an honest third party rose to major power, the need to maintain power (and capability of effectivley doing so) has a good chance of rendering them just as dishonest as those in power right now. (This does NOT get the existing parties off the hook.

10. The real answer for America is a fundamental change in our culture to actually care about the world, our own governments, and be more educated and active so that corruption and propaganda nonsense won't be tolerated and won't fool us.

11. Even though there is no god, we still can have a purpose. Since we are capable of enjoying and desiring a happy existence (for whatever reason - chemical reaction in the brain?? doesn't matter) we should take advantage of what short time we have to be happy. Also, don't harm or prevent other people's pursuits of their own happyness, and if you want, even help them out now and them.

12. Evolution, not creationism. Their levels of 'faith' are completley different. Evolution is so much more tested and backed that the 'leaps' of assumption we grant it are wholly incomparable to those we make for religion.

13. Kerry indeed forgot Poland.

Hope you took notes- those are all the answers you'll ever need to anything! You can thank me later when you all become millionaires and popular with everybody and live perfect lives.


I agree with all, except I have no idea about 13 or the Kerry being better than Bush. (How would I? To me they are both equally fictional.)

Ok who the hell are you to say that everything you say is right? So what everyone else believes is wrong? That's stupid. you have no right to say what's right and wrong. Everyone is an individual and I hate to tell you, but the whole world doesn't agree with you, just becauseyou say so. And just because they don't, doesn't make them wrong...

Listen I'm just giving you the facts. It's up to you whether you agree with them but I am absolutely, unquestionabley right!

I did a lot of research and found lots of proof and stuff so I know that I'm right. You're only mad because you disagree but you know I'm right and don't know how to respond. So I understand that you are angry but don't take it out on me. If anyone, take it out on yourself, because you're the one who's wrong.

you people and your grammer

Ok so heres the skinny. What are we proving? If matter can be created? What doesthat have to do with anything? IM sorry im just really lost
If matter can't be created from nothing (according to modern theory), then the universe could have no logical beginning, as that would require nothing to exist one moment and suddenly exist the next.

If matter can't be created from nothing (according to modern theory), then the universe could have no logical beginning, as that would require nothing to exist one moment and suddenly exist the next.

Nice! Very well said!

8. Everyone should play a musical instrument.




Definately agreed. But then again, I wouldn't feel nearly so special for being a tromboner.