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NFL Playoff Predictions

Sarzonia
03-01-2005, 18:07
The Wild Card Round:

5 St. Louis Rams (8-8, 2nd place, NFC West)
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4 Seattle Seahawks (9-7, 1st place, NFC West)
ABC, 4:30 p.m. January 8 NOTE: All times EST.

SKINNY: Even though the St. Louis Rams needed to win out in their last two games and get help to make the playoffs, they were still within a Seahawks loss of winning the division. This team is no longer the Greatest Show on Turf and Mike Martz still strikes a Mad Professor image and plays himself off as a maverick who'll do whatever he wants when he wants. Ever since his team's Super Bowl loss after the 2001 season, he's walked a tightrope between being a self-proclaimed genius and being out of a job.

The Seattle Seahawks needed to finish with a better record than the Rams did to win the NFC West because the Rams beat them twice. They suffered a collapse at the hands of these Rams in Week 5, blowing a 27-10 third quarter lead to lose 33-27, a game that ended the team's 10 game winning streak at home. The loss sent the team in a three game tailspin, but the NFC was very forgiving this year.

ANALYSIS: Both teams are coming off two game win streaks, but only one of those games had playoff implications for the opposing team, and the Jets already earned a berth in the postseason by the time the Rams drove for the winning field goal. Neither team really comes up big in postseason, but the Rams have Seattle's number this year. PREDICTION: St. Louis 28-13.

5 New York Jets (10-6, 2nd place, AFC East)
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4 San Diego Chargers (12-4, 1st place, AFC West)
ABC, 8 p.m. January 8

SKINNY: The New York Jets survived an injury to quarterback Chad Pennington this year thanks in part to picking up discarded Dallas Cowboys signal caller Quincy Jones. The team has benefited from a rejuvenation of sorts for running back Curtis Martin, who won the NFL rushing title. Coach Herman Edwards has had an opportunity to instill his no-nonsense style into the Jets, though Pennington could learn to temper his aggressive style when dealing with the media.

The San Diego Chargers came from a disasterous 4-12 season last year and a draft day controversy when Eli Manning said he didn't want to play for the Chargers, weathered an extended holdout by bonus baby Phillip Rivers after they traded Manning for his rights, and rode a disciplined offense led by running back LaDanian Tomlinson and the steady right arm of quarterback Drew Brees to a 12-4 turnaround season. Rivers eventually reported but Coach Marty Schottenheimer couldn't bench Brees with the team winning.

ANALYSIS: The Jets won their only meeting with the Chargers in San Diego, but that was in Week 2. The Chargers started the season 1-2 and were 3-3 after losing to Atlanta, but rattled off eight straight wins and nine of their last 10 to be one of the hottest teams still in the playoffs. The team that establishes its premier runner will likely be the team that wins the game. PREDICTION: San Diego 21-14.

6 Denver Broncos (10-6, 2nd place, AFC West)
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3 Indianapolis Colts (12-4, 1st place, AFC South)
CBS, 1 p.m. January 9

SKINNY: The Broncos faced a must-win situation with two teams breathing down its neck to secure a playoff spot and they came up with the win as the Colts rested their star players. The running back by committee approach to Denver yieled yet another breakout back in Reuben Droughns and the additions of cornerback Champ Bailey from the Washington Redskins and safety John Lynch from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers was expected to offset the trade of running back Clinton Portis to Washington for Bailey. Bailey didn't exactly pan out as expected, but the team is back in the playoffs.

Peyton Manning is certainly the league's golden boy this year with his NFL record 49 touchdown passes and his passer efficiency rating an otherworldly 121.1, also a record. He has weapons galore with wide receivers Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Brandon Stokley on the business end of his passes. Running back Edgerrin James also stepped up and played well in his second year back from injury. The team's defense started to show signs that it's learning from Coach Tony Dungy, a man often considered a defensive wizard in his days with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

ANALYSIS: The Broncos won their must-win game against the Colts in Denver, but playing against Manning and company in Indy the following week is going to be tough for Denver to overcome. Even though Broncos signal caller Jake Plummer just set a franchise record of his own for most passing yards, it won't be enough against that high powered Colts offense. PREDICTION: Indianapolis 41-17.

6 Minnesota Vikings (8-8, 2nd place, NFC North)
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3 Green Bay Packers (10-6, 1st place, NFC North)

SKINNY: Both NFC Wild Card games pit division opponents against each other for the third time this season. Both games also see one team trying to earn their first victory against the other team. For the Vikings, they're coming in on a low note. After a 5-1 start, the team won just once in its last five games, and that came courtesy of a bad snap on an extra point that would have sent the Detroit Lions into overtime against the Vikings. Minnesota boasts a dangerous quarterback-receiver combination of defensive end-sized quarterback Duante Culpepper and enigmatic pass catcher Randy Moss, but Moss left the field with two seconds remaining in the team's loss to Washington.

The Packers have dealt with adversity all season long, from offensive coordinator Tom Rossley falling ill to quarterback Brett Favre's wife undergoing cancer treatments and losing her brother. The team also overcame a 1-4 start to the season and surged into the playoffs on the strength of a six game win streak that brought them out of their hole and a 9-2 stretch overall that has the Packers one of the hottest teams in the conference. Both Packer wins over Minnesota came by identical 34-31 scores and Vikings Coach Mike Tice probably has nightmares of kicker Ryan Longwell dancing in his head.

ANALYSIS: No team wants to back into the playoffs, and certainly no team wants to go in with such a glum outlook as the Vikings have, but for the team to overcome their late season swoon, they'll have to improve their mood in a hurry. They'll also have to solve their leaky sieve of a defense that allowed a horrible Redskins offense to score 21 points against it. For the Packers, they'll have to get their Frozen Tundra swagger back after Atlanta Falcons Michael Vick melted it in the playoffs two seasons ago. PREDICTION: Green Bay 34-31.

Enjoy the games!
PIcaRDMPCia
03-01-2005, 18:12
I still say the Broncos will win, because they have to...or else. >_>
Nureonia
03-01-2005, 18:37
I have nothing to back up my guesses at all.

But.

Seahawks > Rams.

Jets > Chargers.

Colts > Broncos.

Packers > Vikings.
Formal Dances
03-01-2005, 18:59
I still say the Broncos will win, because they have to...or else. >_>

Well the colts too but I'm think Denver will win. Besides, they are me and my brother's favorite team! LOL
OceanDrive
03-01-2005, 19:05
the minute he has to play on the road...Peyton Manning is going to Choke...

I did bet $500 to one of his fans (ezmoney :D )
Nureonia
03-01-2005, 19:05
SCREW you people and your favorite teams that go to the playoffs.

You know what I'm a fan of? I'm a fan of the Bengals. Y'all are happy if your teams go to the playoffs. Bengals fans? We're having a good season if our team goes 8-8. We've done that two years in a row. WOO WOO WOO WOO.
Sarzonia
03-01-2005, 19:28
I'm a Redskins fan (6-10 this year; 18-30 the last three years).
Ice Hockey Players
03-01-2005, 19:45
SCREW you people and your favorite teams that go to the playoffs.

You know what I'm a fan of? I'm a fan of the Bengals. Y'all are happy if your teams go to the playoffs. Bengals fans? We're having a good season if our team goes 8-8. We've done that two years in a row. WOO WOO WOO WOO.

Oh meh...I root for the 4-12 Miami Dolphins, who were terrible but not terrible enough to get the first pick in the draft...well, at least they got the second.

The Colts, Chargers, Packers, and Rams will win the first round of games.
Colts 31, Broncos 24.
Chargers 24, Jets 20.
Packers 35, Vikings 14.
Rams 27, Seahawks 17.

Then in the next round...hmm, let's see...

Pittsburgh vs. San Diego: Drew Brees went to Purdue and was a hell of a quarterback. Ben Roethlisberger went to Miami of Ohio, and as a graduate of Ohio University, all that is Miami of Ohio is my sworn enemy. Nonetheless, even if Roethlisberger's less than stellar at times, he has a killer supporting cast.

New England vs. Indianapolis: This is a rematch of the first game of the season. Of course, the Patriots won, just as they will this time, since the Colts won't exactly be playing in a dome.

Philadelphia vs. St. Louis: Again, a dome team in cold weather. On grass. Besides, the Eagles shouldn't lose for another week.

Atlanta vs. Green Bay: OK, now we have a cold-weather team in a dome. Michael Vick is more or less unstoppable when he wants to be, and I hardly trust the Packers right now.

Steelers 21, Chargers 13
Patriots 30, Colts 27
Eagles 38, Rams 17
Falcons 31, Packers 20

Then the Steelers will beat the Patriots 24-17 and the Falcons will knock off the Eagles 30-17 or something. I know what I said about dome teams in cold weather, but this is the Eagles. I don't think they are even capable of winning the NFC title game. Maybe if they switch to the AFC.

Super Bowl XXXIX: Steelers 28, Falcons 20.
Fimble loving peoples
03-01-2005, 19:46
the bulls will win obviously. they have that brian whatshisname.
Formal Dances
03-01-2005, 19:51
the bulls will win obviously. they have that brian whatshisname.

The Bulls? Wrong sport I'm guessing!

The Broncos will be the colts. They know what they need to do against them when their stars play. I'm betting Denver will do much better this time against them in the playoffs than last year.

Denver to face Pittsburgh

The J-E-T-S will beat San Diego because well? I despise them.

Pitt and Denver! Who to pick who to pick. All well, I'll go neutral here. I like both teams.

Pats and Jets? Pats for sure

AFC Title Game? Either Denver or Pittsburgh will win it and go on to beat the Falcons.
Personal responsibilit
03-01-2005, 19:54
I still say the Broncos will win, because they have to...or else. >_>


I sincerely hope so, being a die hard fan and all, but I just don't have much faith that Jake can have back to back, intereception free games...

Broncos 35 Colt 34

Jets 27 Chargers 21

Seahawks 28 Rams 24

Greenbay 21 Minn. 17


Pitt 28 Broncos 21

Jets 21 Pats 17

Philly 24 Seattle 21

Greenbay 28 Atlanta 24


Pitt 21 Jets 14

Philly 21 Greenbay 17


Pitt 28 Philly 17

But I still hope that by some miricle my Broncos will be there at the end.
Fimble loving peoples
03-01-2005, 20:00
The Bulls? Wrong sport I'm guessing!

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The Bulls are the wrong sport?. Whatever. i say red sox then.
Beer-Chugging Germans
03-01-2005, 20:09
After personally witnessing my Vikes get beat by the...ugh...Redskins...I just don't think they can beat the Pack after losing twice to them already.

Then again, having lost twice already, the Vikings have GOT to pick up their game this next time...right? Ah screw it, they're gonna lose. The Vikings really are the pre-2004 Red Sox of football.
Ice Hockey Players
03-01-2005, 20:11
The Bulls are the wrong sport?. Whatever. i say red sox then.

Ummm...yeah, and I think the Nashville Predators are going to beat the Chicago Fire, but not if the Oklahoma Sooners beat them first in the fourth overtime.
Utracia
03-01-2005, 20:15
What does any of this guessing matter? It's once again the Patriots year!
The Lightning Star
03-01-2005, 20:16
What? The Patriots aren't going to the playoffs?!?!?!?!?!!?!?

There must be some mistake! They are *virtually* undefeated, except for about 2 losses!

Oh... wait....

The Patriots are already AFC champions. Heh heh :D
Kharsha
03-01-2005, 20:19
To go a bit further, I predict the conference finals as being:
NFC - Packers at Eagles, with the Packers winning (Philly chokes again)
AFC - Patriots at Steelers, with the Patriots winning (they look stronger ATM)

Super Bowl XXXIX: Packers vs. Patriots, Patriots win 27-24 (Brady remains undefeated for his career in the playoffs)
The Lightning Star
03-01-2005, 20:22
To go a bit further, I predict the conference finals as being:
NFC - Packers at Eagles, with the Packers winning (Philly chokes again)
AFC - Patriots at Steelers, with the Patriots winning (they look stronger ATM)

Super Bowl XXXIX: Packers vs. Patriots, Patriots win 27-24 (Brady remains undefeated for his career in the playoffs)

Me likey this prediction!
Utracia
03-01-2005, 20:25
To go a bit further, I predict the conference finals as being:
NFC - Packers at Eagles, with the Packers winning (Philly chokes again)
AFC - Patriots at Steelers, with the Patriots winning (they look stronger ATM)

Super Bowl XXXIX: Packers vs. Patriots, Patriots win 27-24 (Brady remains undefeated for his career in the playoffs)

The Patriots have to win with a field goal at the very end of the game of course. It's tradition!!
OceanDrive
03-01-2005, 21:09
AFC - Patriots at Steelers, with the Patriots winning (they look stronger ATM)
the steelers are the superior team...the only way the Patriots can win is with the zebras making another Tuck-fuck call...

and like i said Manning is going to Choke again.
OceanDrive
03-01-2005, 21:24
AFC - Patriots at Steelers, with the Patriots winning (they look stronger ATM)
the steelers are the superior team...the only way the Patriots can win is with the zebras making another Tuck-fuck call...

and like i said Manning is going to Choke again
Formal Dances
03-01-2005, 23:05
What does any of this guessing matter? It's once again the Patriots year!

Nope! It'll be Pittsburgh or Denver in the Super Bowl!
Sdaeriji
03-01-2005, 23:07
The real championship game will be the Steelers vs. Patriots AFC Championship game.
PIcaRDMPCia
03-01-2005, 23:12
It's going to be a Broncos/Patriots superbowl...though there even I find it hard to have confidence in Denver's capabilities.
Alomogordo
03-01-2005, 23:35
It's going to be a Broncos/Patriots superbowl...though there even I find it hard to have confidence in Denver's capabilities.
Uhhhh...The Broncos are in the AFC. So that's not possible.

AFC: NFC:
Round 1: Round 1:
Colts 38 Broncos 24| Seahawks 24 Rams 19
Chargers 20 Jets 14| Packers 30 Vikings 21

Round 2 Round 2:
Steelers 27 Chargers 17| Falcons 28 Packers 20
Patriots 30 Colts 24| Eagles 19 Seahawks 10

Conference Championship: Conference Championship:
Patriots 29 Steelers 24| Falcons 27 Eagles 22

SUPER BOWL:
Patriots 30 Falcons 14
Personal responsibilit
03-01-2005, 23:38
The Patriots are already AFC champions. Heh heh :D

Actually, that would be the Pittsburg Steelers who smacked the Patsies around with a Rookie QB no less.... :p
Personal responsibilit
03-01-2005, 23:40
It's going to be a Broncos/Patriots superbowl...though there even I find it hard to have confidence in Denver's capabilities.
That is impossible, given they are in the same conference.
Alomogordo
03-01-2005, 23:41
Actually, that would be the Pittsburg Steelers who smacked the Patsies around with a Rookie QB no less.... :p
The Pats played that game without Corey Dillon, Ty Law, or Tyrone Poole. Law and Dillon will be back, plus the Patriots have loads of experience in the playoffs. The Steelers are missing Duce Staley too much.
Personal responsibilit
03-01-2005, 23:43
The Pats played that game without Corey Dillon, Ty Law, or Tyrone Poole. Law and Dillon will be back, plus the Patriots have loads of experience in the playoffs. The Steelers are missing Duce Staley too much.

Actually, Duce is healthy and I don't know how you can call the re-emmergence of the the Bus missing Staley. Further, Law being back is still iffy and even if he is will he be 100%. As for Dillon, Pitt will always stuff the run, pretty much no matter who plays them...
PIcaRDMPCia
03-01-2005, 23:44
I meant AFC title game. >_> I keep forgetting who is in what division...
Formal Dances
04-01-2005, 00:39
Patriots won't go to the Super Bowl. It'll be the Steelers or the Broncos but not the Patriots.

In the NFC, the Eagles won't go. Is their wideout back? if not, then that'll answer the question. Look at their last couple of games.
Sdaeriji
04-01-2005, 00:41
Patriots won't go to the Super Bowl. It'll be the Steelers or the Broncos but not the Patriots.

In the NFC, the Eagles won't go. Is their wideout back? if not, then that'll answer the question. Look at their last couple of games.

Where the hell are people pulling the Broncos from? They won't even make it past Indianapolis. The AFC Championship game will be the Patriots and the Steelers, and that game is a tossup, though I'm leaning towards the Steelers because they're so deep.
Formal Dances
04-01-2005, 00:44
Where the hell are people pulling the Broncos from? They won't even make it past Indianapolis. The AFC Championship game will be the Patriots and the Steelers, and that game is a tossup, though I'm leaning towards the Steelers because they're so deep.

Well excuse me for supporting my team bud! Denver is good when Plummer isn't tossing Interceptions. Denver knows what it takes to beat Indianapolis and they'll give them a great game on Sunday!

The Patriots aren't going anywhere. I bet that the chargers could take them on even though I hate them as much as I hate the Patriots.

If not, then I'll take the steelers over the rest of the NFL!!!
Sdaeriji
04-01-2005, 00:51
Well excuse me for supporting my team bud! Denver is good when Plummer isn't tossing Interceptions. Denver knows what it takes to beat Indianapolis and they'll give them a great game on Sunday!

The Patriots aren't going anywhere. I bet that the chargers could take them on even though I hate them as much as I hate the Patriots.

If not, then I'll take the steelers over the rest of the NFL!!!

And you'll have to excuse me for supporting my team. Denver barely made the playoffs, and the only reason they beat Indy was because Indy was already looking forward to the playoffs. Manning's line in the Denver game? 1 for 2, 6 yards. I guarantee you he'll throw a few more times than that. Denver's ONLY chance is if Plummer has a career day and the Indy D becomes the Indy D from the beginning of the season. Meanwhile the Patriots went 14-2 and only lost an aberration against Miami and against the Steelers in a game without Corey Dillon. The only team in the AFC that could even think about coming into Foxboro in January and win is the Steelers, and they won't even have to. Denver won't make it past a much better Indianapolis team, the Chargers will beat the Jets, the Patriots will beat the Colts (again), the Steelers will overwhelm the Chargers, and the Steelers versus Patriots will be the real NFL championship game.
Formal Dances
04-01-2005, 01:18
Denver has a running game and when plummer isn't tossing interceptions, a passing game too. Denver knows what its defense needs to do so we shall see what happens.
Utracia
04-01-2005, 01:25
And you'll have to excuse me for supporting my team. Denver barely made the playoffs, and the only reason they beat Indy was because Indy was already looking forward to the playoffs. Manning's line in the Denver game? 1 for 2, 6 yards. I guarantee you he'll throw a few more times than that. Denver's ONLY chance is if Plummer has a career day and the Indy D becomes the Indy D from the beginning of the season. Meanwhile the Patriots went 14-2 and only lost an aberration against Miami and against the Steelers in a game without Corey Dillon. The only team in the AFC that could even think about coming into Foxboro in January and win is the Steelers, and they won't even have to. Denver won't make it past a much better Indianapolis team, the Chargers will beat the Jets, the Patriots will beat the Colts (again), the Steelers will overwhelm the Chargers, and the Steelers versus Patriots will be the real NFL championship game.

Carolina was a big underdog in the Super Bowl last year. I really don't see them going anywhere though. The Rams seem to really, really, really want it. I don't mind if they make it to the big game and have the Pats beat them again! :)
Frangland
04-01-2005, 01:31
This weekend's games:

Green Bay Packers 27
Minnesota Vikings 20

It's actually supposed to be balmy -- only in the upper 20s -- but that's still cold for an indoor team. Favre wants revenge in Atlanta... and when Favre really wants something, he usually gets it.
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Seattle Seahawks 40
St. Louis Rams 37

Both teams should light up the scoreboard in an exciting game to watch. The Rams have been playing very poorly in outside games lately, and they're certainly not in a dome this weekend.
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San Diego Chargers 24
New York Jets 14

The Jets' strength lies in running the ball, and the Chargers are tough against the run. The Chargers can be beaten through the air but Pennington et al. won't be able to do enough.
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Indianapolis Colts 37
Denver Broncos 30

Denver can win if they can sustain several long drives with (primarily) their running attack. They will be able to do this to an extent, but not to the required degree. This should be a fun game to watch (Jake the Snake vs. Manning, part II).
OceanDrive
04-01-2005, 01:33
... when Favre really wants something, he usually gets it......
WUAHAHAHAHAHA...that was funny.
Nureonia
04-01-2005, 01:37
Patriots won't go to the Super Bowl. It'll be the Steelers or the Broncos but not the Patriots.

In the NFC, the Eagles won't go. Is their wideout back? if not, then that'll answer the question. Look at their last couple of games.

Okay. As a Bengals fan, I'm proud that we kicked some Eagle ass. But those games didn't matter. They had, like, the majority of their SECOND STRING in. Looking on their last few games means nothing.

(also, to you Redskin and Dolphin fans: I'm pretty sure there was a time when the Redskins were amazing, though I can't think of one off the top of my head, and the Dolphins had Marino at one point. When did you ever hear about the Bengals kicking ass?)
OceanDrive
04-01-2005, 01:40
...When did you ever hear about the Bengals kicking ass?)Thats what TampaBay fans used to say...
Largent
04-01-2005, 01:41
To go a bit further, I predict the conference finals as being:
NFC - Packers at Eagles, with the Packers winning (Philly chokes again)
AFC - Patriots at Steelers, with the Patriots winning (they look stronger ATM)

Super Bowl XXXIX: Packers vs. Patriots, Patriots win 27-24 (Brady remains undefeated for his career in the playoffs)

Wahooooo! Go Patriots!!!!

(Is the curse like uber-reversed if the Sox and Pats are champs during the same season?)
Trops
04-01-2005, 01:41
The Pats will win it all...
Utracia
04-01-2005, 01:44
Pats have been winning even with injuries. I really miss Ty Law. Branch. Givens. Gay. *sigh*
Nureonia
04-01-2005, 01:50
HUR HUR YOU SAID GAY. LOLOLZOLZOZLFSEOAFSDOATSROFL

end sarcasm.

Anyway, go Eagles! They're the local team for me. I'm in Pennsylvania -- and I'm closer to Philly. I'm a Bengals fan, though, so by association I HAVE to hate the Steelers.
Sdaeriji
04-01-2005, 01:51
Thats what TampaBay fans used to say...

So did Patriots fans!
Corneliu
04-01-2005, 01:59
Okay. As a Bengals fan, I'm proud that we kicked some Eagle ass. But those games didn't matter. They had, like, the majority of their SECOND STRING in. Looking on their last few games means nothing.

You do have a good point but with TO out, unless he came back, they'll be SOL!

(also, to you Redskin and Dolphin fans: I'm pretty sure there was a time when the Redskins were amazing, though I can't think of one off the top of my head, and the Dolphins had Marino at one point. When did you ever hear about the Bengals kicking ass?)

The time when the Redskins won the Super Bowl and the last time Cinci had a decent team was when they lost to the 49ers in the Super Bowl. Forgot the number though!
Corneliu
04-01-2005, 02:01
HUR HUR YOU SAID GAY. LOLOLZOLZOZLFSEOAFSDOATSROFL

end sarcasm.

Anyway, go Eagles! They're the local team for me. I'm in Pennsylvania -- and I'm closer to Philly. I'm a Bengals fan, though, so by association I HAVE to hate the Steelers.

Oh goodie! I'm in PA too closer to Pitt so GO STEELERS!!! LOL I"m a Bronco fan anyway so Look for the Broncos to make waves in the playoffs this year.
Kwangistar
04-01-2005, 02:41
Wild Card Round

Colts(3) over Broncos(6) - Indianapolis has two strengths on their defense. They create turnovers, leading the league with 35. Denver is only above Cincinnati, Miami, St. Louis, and Dallas when it comes to tossing picks. Indianapolis is only below Buffalo, Houston, Seattle, and Carolina when it comes to getting them. Indianapolis is also good at collapsing the pocket, and it leads the league in sacks, but unfortunately for them Plummer's good at avoiding sacks, as he's near the league low. Fortunately he likes to throw picks when he's under pressure. This means Indianapolis wins.

Chargers(4) over Jets(5) - This is actually a fairly even matchup. The Chargers are great at stopping the run, and the Jets have the league's leading rusher. The Charger's weakness is in their secondary, but the Jets have been having trouble in their passing game, especially of late. I think the Chargers are better balanced offensively, though, which will help them win it.

Rams (5) over Seahawks (4) - The Seahawks will get burned by Issac Bruce and Tory Holt, and if they shift too many guys into coverage Stephen Jackson will hurt them too. The Seahawk's safeties are playing at a college level. That isn't good news in a shootout. Not that the Rams' defense is anything to be proud of, but there's a reason the Rams have won both meetings this season.

Packers (3) over Vikings (6) - I know Mike Tice's contract was cheap, but I guess this is a case of where spending a little extra might have led to some major benifits. Not that its all Tice's fault, as the Vikings would probably be 10-6 if Moss hadn't been gone half the season, but their play lately has been extremely pitiful.
Sarzonia
04-01-2005, 03:11
(also, to you Redskin and Dolphin fans: I'm pretty sure there was a time when the Redskins were amazing, though I can't think of one off the top of my head, and the Dolphins had Marino at one point. When did you ever hear about the Bengals kicking ass?)The Redskins won three Super Bowls with three starting quarterbacks in the first Joe Gibbs era.

The Bengals made it to Super Bowls XVI and XXIII. Those were the two closest Super Bowls the 49ers played.
OceanDrive
04-01-2005, 10:37
So did Patriots fans!
1 word

BillyCheckMate...
Areyoukiddingme
05-01-2005, 00:20
Oh meh...I root for the 4-12 Miami Dolphins, who were terrible but not terrible enough to get the first pick in the draft...well, at least they got the second.

Exactly, now our team doesn't have to pay that top pick money that they don't have, and will probably get a high quality pick for a lot less money.
La Terra di Liberta
05-01-2005, 00:26
Here are mine,

Wild Card:

Rams over Seahawks

Vikings over Packers

Chargers over Jets

Colts over Broncos

Round after Wild Card (I know, I know, I forget the name):

Falcons over Rams

Eagles over Vikings

Chargers over Steelers

Patriots over Colts

Round after that (Shut up):

Falcons over Eagles

Patriots over Chargers

Superbowl (Yes, even I know that):

Patriots over Falcons

MVP: Tom Brady, New England Patriots

Honourable mention: Michael Vick, Atlanta Falcons
Areyoukiddingme
05-01-2005, 00:28
Here are mine,

Wild Card:

Rams over Seahawks

Vikings over Packers

Chargers over Jets

Colts over Broncos

Round after Wild Card (I know, I know, I forget the name):Divisional

Falcons over Rams

Eagles over Vikings

Chargers over Steelers

Patriots over Colts

Round after that (Shut up):Conference Championship

Falcons over Eagles

Patriots over Chargers

Superbowl (Yes, even I know that):

Patriots over Falcons

MVP: Tom Brady, New England Patriots

Honourable mention: Michael Vick, Atlanta Falcons
Just for your info.
OceanDrive
05-01-2005, 00:36
I cant Predict who is going to Win the SuperBowl...

But I can Predict who is NOT going to win it:

Packers
Broncos
Rams
Jets
Vikings
Eagles
Seahawks
Falcons
Colts

Thats it.
Corneliu
05-01-2005, 00:39
No Way the chargers can beat the Steelers.
La Terra di Liberta
05-01-2005, 00:46
No Way the chargers can beat the Steelers.



At 15-1, they are prime for an upset and San Diego is this year's Carolina.
Corneliu
05-01-2005, 00:53
At 15-1, they are prime for an upset and San Diego is this year's Carolina.

San Diego has a tough game of their own. No, I dont think they are! Watch for Denver to be an Upset and I'll give them better odds than I will SD!!
Salchicho
05-01-2005, 01:20
Steelers 31, Falcons 10
Kwangistar
05-01-2005, 01:23
San Diego has a tough game of their own. No, I dont think they are! Watch for Denver to be an Upset and I'll give them better odds than I will SD!!
Denver will only win if "Good Jake" shows up for the playoffs.

And I think he's missed that appointment every time for the past few years :p
Corneliu
05-01-2005, 01:26
Denver will only win if "Good Jake" shows up for the playoffs.

And I think he's missed that appointment every time for the past few years :p

LOL!!!

If the Red Sox can come back from a 3-0 Series Deficit to win the ALCS then sweeping the World Series, anything can happen.

They know what needs to be done. The question is will it? I'm betting the answer to be yes but if not? Alwell, there is always next season!
Ogiek
05-01-2005, 03:39
I'm a Bills fan, so I don't have a pony in this race, however:

The NFC sucks this year with only the Eagles able to hang with the best teams in the AFC.

The AFC has real quality in the Steelers, Patriots, Colts, and Chargers. However, defense wins playoffs and nobody is better than the Steelers in that area.

My prediction is for an all Pennsylvania Super Bowl with Pittsburg blowing out Philadelphia.
Nureonia
05-01-2005, 03:45
My prediction is for an all Pennsylvania Super Bowl with Pittsburg blowing out Philadelphia.

I'm predicting the same thing. However, those Steeler *censored* *censored* ain't blowin' out anyone.

Also: The Eagles don't need TO to win. I seem to recall a game where he got two or three passes and Westbrook was doin' half the work for the team... Eagles vs. Packers?
Corneliu
05-01-2005, 03:59
I'm predicting the same thing. However, those Steeler *censored* *censored* ain't blowin' out anyone.

Also: The Eagles don't need TO to win. I seem to recall a game where he got two or three passes and Westbrook was doin' half the work for the team... Eagles vs. Packers?

TO is hurt! If he's not back for the playoffs, they're done!
Kwangistar
05-01-2005, 03:59
I'm predicting the same thing. However, those Steeler *censored* *censored* ain't blowin' out anyone.

Also: The Eagles don't need TO to win. I seem to recall a game where he got two or three passes and Westbrook was doin' half the work for the team... Eagles vs. Packers?
Yeah, but as an Eagle's fan I'll be the first to admit that a good portion of that was due to the fact that coverage was rolled over towards TO all day long. That, of course, won't happen with TO gone. On the other hand, the Steelers seem to have lost some of their momentum since the mid-season when they blew out New England and Philadelphia in consecutive games. They've had near-misses against the Giants, Bills, Jaugars, Bengals, and to a lesser extent the Jets and Redskins, too.
Ogiek
05-01-2005, 04:01
Yeah, but as an Eagle's fan I'll be the first to admit that a good portion of that was due to the fact that coverage was rolled over towards TO all day long. That, of course, won't happen with TO gone. On the other hand, the Steelers seem to have lost some of their momentum since the mid-season when they blew out New England and Philadelphia in consecutive games. They've had near-misses against the Giants, Bills, Jaugars, Bengals, and to a lesser extent the Jets and Redskins, too.

Keep in mind that it was the Steelers' JV that beat a 9-win Bills team in a game that meant everything to the Bills and nothing to the Steelers. When your second string is better than most other teams you ain't doin' bad.
Corneliu
05-01-2005, 04:03
And yet the eagles got blown out by the Bengals.

Granted it was second team but remember, Pittsburgh had their second team in there for the Bills game too and still stopped the run. If they face the patriots in the AFC Title Game in Pittsburgh, and thats a big IF considering how Pittsburgh does in big games, they will have to win it in the air and I dont think the Pats are capable of doing that.
Corneliu
05-01-2005, 04:04
Keep in mind that it was the Steelers' JV that beat a 9-win Bills team. When your second string is better than most other teams you ain't doin' bad.

Agreed!

Though I'm a Broncos fan and will watch that game at 100 PM ET Sunday Jan 9, I'm thinking the Steelers will win it all this year.

Of course, if the Broncos face off against Pittsburgh, I'll be rooting for Denver, not Pittsburgh :p
Ogiek
05-01-2005, 04:06
Okay. As a Bengals fan....

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I have to say I love those striped Bengals helmets.
Corneliu
05-01-2005, 04:07
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I have to say I love those striped Bengals helmets.

Seconded! LOL
Nureonia
05-01-2005, 04:07
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I have to say I love those striped Bengals helmets.

I got told our uniforms look like hockey uniforms.

But I LIKE the way hockey uniforms look.... :(
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 01:16
SCREW you people and your favorite teams that go to the playoffs.

You know what I'm a fan of? I'm a fan of the Bengals. Y'all are happy if your teams go to the playoffs. Bengals fans? We're having a good season if our team goes 8-8. We've done that two years in a row. WOO WOO WOO WOO.

The Bengals suck the only reason why they won most of their games is because they played in the shittist divison in the NFL. I love the New England Patriots. The Bengals were idiots for trading Corey Dillon for a 2nd round draft pick late in that round. I call the biggist off-season steal of the 03-04 offseason. If the Patriots get eliminated I'd love to see the San Diego Chargers face the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. You know that the Chargers and Falcons traded draft picks in 01 guess who was acuired by both teams for those picks? LaDainian Tomlinson for the Chargers and Michael Vick for the Falcons.
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 01:23
Well excuse me for supporting my team bud! Denver is good when Plummer isn't tossing Interceptions. Denver knows what it takes to beat Indianapolis and they'll give them a great game on Sunday!

The Patriots aren't going anywhere. I bet that the chargers could take them on even though I hate them as much as I hate the Patriots.

If not, then I'll take the steelers over the rest of the NFL!!!

Why do you hate the Patriots they are Americas team of the new millenium. To hell with the Broncos Jake Plummer is so damn over rated they will be trampled by the Colts like last year. The Broncos don't have a great running game. They don't have great recivers. The only good thing about the Broncos is nothing.
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 01:38
Here is my prediction for the playoffs

AFC: NFC:
Round 1: Round 1:
Colts 49 Broncos 14 | Rams 21 Seahawks 7
Chargers 28 Jets 6 | Vikings 17 Packers 14

Round 2 Round 2:
Steelers 20 Chargers 17 OT | Falcons 45 Packers 35
Patriots 30 Colts 24 | Eagles 31 Seahawks 20

Conference Championship: Conference Championship:
Patriots 48 Steelers 35 | Eagles 9 Falcons 3 OT

Super Bowl

Patriots 34 l Eagles 31 OT

Super Bowl MVP: Adam Vinatieri
Finnaly Vinatieri get's reconition.
If Eagles would have won the MVP would be: Terrell Owens
Kwangistar
06-01-2005, 01:41
The Bengals suck the only reason why they won most of their games is because they played in the shittist divison in the NFL.
The Bengals played in the NFC West? Rams, Seahawks, Cardinals, and 49ers. Even some weak divisions like the NFC East have at least one good team.
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 02:14
The Bengals played in the NFC West? Rams, Seahawks, Cardinals, and 49ers. Even some weak divisions like the NFC East have at least one good team.

THey didn't play in the NFC West they played in the AFC North.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 02:16
Why do you hate the Patriots they are Americas team of the new millenium. To hell with the Broncos Jake Plummer is so damn over rated they will be trampled by the Colts like last year. The Broncos don't have a great running game. They don't have great recivers. The only good thing about the Broncos is nothing.

You are damn lucky my sister didn't see this! She would jump all over you. Hell I will jump all over you.

Denver has wonderful receivers in Smith and Lelie! Droughns is an outstanding running back. Plummer is good in his own right of being a scrambler but throws poorly when on the run. However he has an annoying habit of NOT getting sacked.

Smith is probably one of the best receivers in the league and Lelie is right behind him.

Don't have great receivers or running back? I think you need to check your damn stats again.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 02:17
THey didn't play in the NFC West they played in the AFC North.

Yea the AFC North that has the PITTSBURGH STEELERS!!!
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 02:18
NFC South is pretty bad. Believe me, Carolina and New Orleans are not 8-8 teams. But the NFC West, with those dreadful 49ers take the cake.
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 02:19
Yea the AFC North that has the PITTSBURGH STEELERS!!!

That's why the AFC North sucked because Pittsburgh was so wasting the other 3 teams it wasn't even funny.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 02:22
Actually, if not for the Eagles, the NFC East has the worst collection of teams. I mean, when Washington finishes second, you know it's bad.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 02:23
what about the NFC West?
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 02:26
Still has the Seahawks and Rams and the Cardinals were better than I thought they'd be, it's just San Francisco that really, really sucks.
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 02:29
You are damn lucky my sister didn't see this! She would jump all over you. Hell I will jump all over you.

Smith is probably one of the best receivers in the league and Lelie is right behind him.

Don't have great receivers or running back? I think you need to check your damn stats again.

Ok I admit that I was wrong about Droughns. But Smith and Lelie are not the two best recivers. I can name ten better current wide recivers in the NFL right now. Randy Moss, Terrel Owens. Reggie Wyane. Brandon Stokely. Marvin Harrison. M. Muhammad. J. Horn. J. Walker. T. Holt. & I. Bruce. Check and Mate!

I guess you and your sister won't be doing any jumping on people for awhile. :D
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 02:34
Rod Smith, best reciever in the league? Don't make me laugh. Lets look at Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, Moss, Owens, Horn, Holt, Bruce, D Mason, etc. Smith is good but he sure ain't the best.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 02:34
Ok I admit that I was wrong about Droughns. But Smith and Lelie are not the two best recivers. I can name ten better current wide recivers in the NFL right now. Randy Moss, Terrel Owens. Reggie Wyane. Brandon Stokely. Marvin Harrison. M. Muhammad. J. Horn. J. Walker. T. Holt. & I. Bruce. Check and Mate!

Not quite. I suggest you look at whom their quarterbacks are! Now check Smith's yardage and receptions when John Elway was present. Also, check at how many years some of those receivers have been in the league and compare them to Smith's numbers.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 02:35
Rod Smith, best reciever in the league? Don't make me laugh. Lets look at Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, Moss, Owens, Horn, Holt, Bruce, D Mason, etc. Smith is good but he sure ain't the best.

I said he was one of the best I didn't say he was the best!
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 02:35
I belive that the best overround player in the NFL meaning can play offense, defence, and special teams. Is the New England Patriots Troy Brown.

The Most Underated Defenseive Player in the NFL is: Tedy Bruschi
The Most Underated Offenseive Player in the NFL is: Brian Westbrook

The Most Overated Defenseive Player in the NFL is: Brian Ulacher
The Most Underated Offenseive Playe in the NFL is. Steve Mcnair

The Most Underated Head Coach in the NFL is: Bill Belicheck
The Most Overated Head Coach in the NFL is. Bill Cowher
Ogiek
06-01-2005, 02:38
Here is my prediction for the playoffs

Vikings 17 Packers 14

Wait a minute.

The first time these guys met this year they scored a combined 65 points. Interestingly enough the second time they met they also scored 65 total points. Last year during the regular season they combined for 55 and 57 points.

Neither team even remembers how to spell defense and you think they will hold each other to two touchdowns?

Get out your abacus; these two teams are going to score points.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 02:38
I personally believe the best overall offensive player is Michael Vick when he's healthy and Julius Peppers on defense.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 02:38
I belive that the best overround player in the NFL meaning can play offense, defence, and special teams. Is the New England Patriots Troy Brown.

The Most Underated Defenseive Player in the NFL is: Tedy Bruschi
The Most Underated Offenseive Player in the NFL is: Brian Westbrook

The Most Overated Defenseive Player in the NFL is: Brian Ulacher
The Most Underated Offenseive Playe in the NFL is. Steve Mcnair

The Most Underated Head Coach in the NFL is: Bill Belicheck
The Most Overated Head Coach in the NFL is. Bill Cowher

I can by this but what about Randel El?
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 02:39
Wait a minute.

The first time these guys met this year they scored a combined 65 points. Interestingly enough the second time they met the also scored 65 total points. Last year during the regular season they combined for 55 and 57 points.

Neither team even remembers how to spell defense and you think they will hold each other to two touchdowns?

Get out your abacus; these two teams are going to score points.


Exactly, 38-35 Minnesota over Green Bay is my perdiction.
New York Jet Fanatics
06-01-2005, 02:39
Jets All The Way!!!

Woooo!!!
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 02:39
I personally believe the best overall offensive player is Michael Vick when he's healthy and Julius Peppers on defense.

Give me John Elway, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and Jim Kelly! Great Quarterbacks all of them.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 02:40
Give me John Elway, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and Jim Kelly! Great Quarterbacks all of them.


I meant this year...........
OceanDrive
06-01-2005, 03:07
Give me John Elway, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and Jim Kelly! Great Quarterbacks all of them.
They are nothing like Mike.
Mistress Kimberly
06-01-2005, 03:07
I have no idea who is going to win the Viking/Packer game.

But for my own physical safety...I really hope Minnesota wins.

People around here get rather crabby when they lose.


*crawls into corner and hides*
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 03:09
They are nothing like Mike.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Those quarterbacks that I name own Mike Vick!
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 03:10
I have no idea who is going to win the Viking/Packer game.

But for my own physical safety...I really hope Minnesota wins.

People around here get rather crabby when they lose.


*crawls into corner and hides*

Sounds like the university that I attend that is about an hour and a half west of Philly.
OceanDrive
06-01-2005, 03:11
Those quarterbacks that I name own Mike Vickits the other way around
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 03:14
its the other way around

no I don't think so.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 03:14
Sounds like the university that I attend that is about an hour and a half west of Philly.


I thought they'd be Eagle fans and not Viking fans, but whatever floats their boat.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 03:17
I thought they'd be Eagle fans and not Viking fans, but whatever floats their boat.

They are eagle fans! They lose they cry. I loved to rub it in when they lost to Pittsburgh! God that was so sweet.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 03:22
They are eagle fans! They lose they cry. I loved to rub it in when they lost to Pittsburgh! God that was so sweet.



Oh. I love to rub it in when the Titans lose, seeing as they are the most popular team at my school (biggest fan base), even though Minnesota is much closer. I even made up "Eddie the George George" and Air (not) McNair.
Kwangistar
06-01-2005, 04:22
Vick has two more td (14) passes than ints (12), completes 56.4% of his throws, a paltry 2313 yards, sacked 46 times, and a rating of 78.1. Joey Harrington had more touchdowns rushing + passing, the two Miami quarterbacks combined had about 700 more yards passing and 4 four touchdowns. Daunte Culpepper more than doubled Vick's total yards. Billy Voleck even had better passing stats, starting 8 games. Vick is exciting, but I'll take an actual quarterback over him.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 04:28
Vick has two more td (14) passes than ints (12), completes 56.4% of his throws, a paltry 2313 yards, sacked 46 times, and a rating of 78.1. Joey Harrington had more touchdowns rushing + passing, the two Miami quarterbacks combined had about 700 more yards passing and 4 four touchdowns. Daunte Culpepper more than doubled Vick's total yards. Billy Voleck even had better passing stats, starting 8 games. Vick is exciting, but I'll take an actual quarterback over him.


Problem with Daunte when he runs is that he doesn't hold on to the damn ball.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 04:29
Problem with Daunte when he runs is that he doesn't hold on to the damn ball.

True but he is better than Vick.
Ultra Cool People
06-01-2005, 04:33
I hate to say it, but I think it'll be the Steelers vs. Eagles in the Superbowl.

I can't wait for the GB/Viking game this weekend though. There's something about a winter game at Green Bay that is the soul of football.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 04:34
True but he is better than Vick.


I'm a loyal Vikings fan but I'm not sure if he's gonna take the team very far. He's gifted, although when you've got Randy Moss, Nate Burleson and Marcus Robinson catching and Michael Bennet running, it makes you look better than you are sometimes.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 04:34
I'm a loyal Vikings fan but I'm not sure if he's gonna take the team very far. He's gifted, although when you've got Randy Moss, Nate Burleson and Marcus Robinson catching and Michael Bennet running, it makes you look better than you are sometimes.

That explains Donovan McNabb!
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 04:35
I hate to say it, but I think it'll be the Steelers vs. Eagles in the Superbowl.

Ohhh!! Goes well for me. Even if the Eagles lose before then, I will gloat because Pitt will win that game.

I can't wait for the GB/Viking game this weekend though. There's something about a winter game at Green Bay that is the soul of football.

No arguement here.
The Zoogie People
06-01-2005, 04:52
The Seahawks and Rams both underperformed this season, although the Rams lost two games in which their utter lack of depth at quarterback was exposed, Jeff Chandler throwing for, what, a million interceptions? Nevertheless, the Seahawks still have a solid running game whereas the Rams have a questionable one at best, so I'll have to take the Seahawks here. Though watching the Seahawks blow their 20-pt lead or so earlier this season to lose to the Rams was fun :)

The Jets and the Chargers...the Jets have a solid, solid running game and a fairly effective passing game that will get better with Chad Pennington's shoulder. I don't think it'll be a very high-scoring game and it depends really on the momentum and how physical each team is willing to get. I like the Jets in this one.

The Vikings/Packers...this is an easy pick, I don't see how anyone can say otherwise: based on the trends thus far this season, I think it's far to say that the Packers will win on a game-winning Ryan Longwell field goal as time expires to make it 34-31, as they have already done twice this year on the Vikings.

The Colts/Broncos...as much as I like the Broncos, I think I will have to take the Colts here. If the Broncos are willing to play aggressive and Jake Plummer finds it in his poor talentless self to exploit the awful Colts secondary I think they could make it close. Then again, their defense fell at the seams to Oakland earlier this year, meaning Manning will throw ten touchdowns compared to two incompletions.

Manning will then get all cocky and be like "Ho ho, I rule teh world!! Bow down to me, mortals, and fear me, ha, ha, ha!!" and subsequently get slaughtered by the Pats in the following fashion: 10 sacks, 5 interceptions, 1 measly touchdown, and a 45% completion rate. It might not be that bad, but as the Patriots always have done...we will find a way. If Adam Vinatieri has to throw an 80-yd TD pass to Mike Vrabel at the last second...we will find a way.

The Jets will then, having learned their lesson, hand the Steelers a defeat, and we will all sigh and say, "FINALLY!" I think it can actually be done. As good as their record is, their offense has not been a pilliar of production and if the Jets can put some points on the board - the Giants put up 30 with Eli Manning at the helm - there's no reason why they can't pull this off.

I don't know who the Seahawks/Rams victor is playing, or who the Vikings/Packers victor is playing, but I think we'll see Philadelphia and Green Bay in the NFC championship. Unless of course Green Bay is playing Philadelphia if they win, in which case I think we'll see Green Bay (which will convert on a last second 4th and 26) and the Seahawks. No way in my mind is Atlanta making the NFC championship game. No way.

Whatever the case, Green Bay will emerge the victor in the NFC in my delusion-riddled version of the world. In the AFC, the Pats and Jets will face off and as usual the Patriots will win again. Even if it was the Patriots against the Steelers, the Patriots would pull it off because Corey Dillon would be healthy and the Patriots are a clutch team while Pittsburgh unproven. In such a rematch the Pats would be able to run it more than two times for six yards in the entire game.

Then the Patriots and Packers would meet in the Superbowl, and in a close and heated match the Patriots would pull it off once again on a dastardly long field goal by Adam Vinatieri. Laugh at me now, but mark my words...
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 04:59
The Seahawks and Rams both underperformed this season, although the Rams lost two games in which their utter lack of depth at quarterback was exposed, Jeff Chandler throwing for, what, a million interceptions? Nevertheless, the Seahawks still have a solid running game whereas the Rams have a questionable one at best, so I'll have to take the Seahawks here. Though watching the Seahawks blow their 20-pt lead or so earlier this season to lose to the Rams was fun :)

The Jets and the Chargers...the Jets have a solid, solid running game and a fairly effective passing game that will get better with Chad Pennington's shoulder. I don't think it'll be a very high-scoring game and it depends really on the momentum and how physical each team is willing to get. I like the Jets in this one.

The Vikings/Packers...this is an easy pick, I don't see how anyone can say otherwise: based on the trends thus far this season, I think it's far to say that the Packers will win on a game-winning Ryan Longwell field goal as time expires to make it 34-31, as they have already done twice this year on the Vikings.

The Colts/Broncos...as much as I like the Broncos, I think I will have to take the Colts here. If the Broncos are willing to play aggressive and Jake Plummer finds it in his poor talentless self to exploit the awful Colts secondary I think they could make it close. Then again, their defense fell at the seams to Oakland earlier this year, meaning Manning will throw ten touchdowns compared to two incompletions.

Manning will then get all cocky and be like "Ho ho, I rule teh world!! Bow down to me, mortals, and fear me, ha, ha, ha!!" and subsequently get slaughtered by the Pats in the following fashion: 10 sacks, 5 interceptions, 1 measly touchdown, and a 45% completion rate. It might not be that bad, but as the Patriots always have done...we will find a way. If Adam Vinatieri has to throw an 80-yd TD pass to Mike Vrabel at the last second...we will find a way.

The Jets will then, having learned their lesson, hand the Steelers a defeat, and we will all sigh and say, "FINALLY!" I think it can actually be done. As good as their record is, their offense has not been a pilliar of production and if the Jets can put some points on the board - the Giants put up 30 with Eli Manning at the helm - there's no reason why they can't pull this off.

I don't know who the Seahawks/Rams victor is playing, or who the Vikings/Packers victor is playing, but I think we'll see Philadelphia and Green Bay in the NFC championship. Unless of course Green Bay is playing Philadelphia if they win, in which case I think we'll see Green Bay (which will convert on a last second 4th and 26) and the Seahawks. No way in my mind is Atlanta making the NFC championship game. No way.

Whatever the case, Green Bay will emerge the victor in the NFC in my delusion-riddled version of the world. In the AFC, the Pats and Jets will face off and as usual the Patriots will win again. Even if it was the Patriots against the Steelers, the Patriots would pull it off because Corey Dillon would be healthy and the Patriots are a clutch team while Pittsburgh unproven. In such a rematch the Pats would be able to run it more than two times for six yards in the entire game.

Then the Patriots and Packers would meet in the Superbowl, and in a close and heated match the Patriots would pull it off once again on a dastardly long field goal by Adam Vinatieri. Laugh at me now, but mark my words...


It's "Chris" not "Jeff", Jeffs a kicker for San Francisco I think, not sure. Otherwise, good predictions although I hope the Packers-Viking one doesn't come true.
Nureonia
06-01-2005, 05:16
This is where I, as a Bengals fan, FOAM AT THE MOUTH.

The Bengals suck the only reason why they won most of their games is because they played in the shittist divison in the NFL.

I'm not sure what else I can say but, 'you're stupid'. The AFC North? Shitty? I'm sorry. As much as I hate the Steelers, I will admit that they are REALLY good. The Ravens are not half bad either. And they went 8-8. That's not most. That's HALF.

I love the New England Patriots. The Bengals were idiots for trading Corey Dillon for a 2nd round draft pick late in that round. call the biggist off-season steal of the 03-04 offseason.

Which is better? Having an unhappy player who doesn't WANT to play with your team anymore, or fresh talent? Corey Dillon didn't WANT to be in Cincinatti anymore.

The Most Underated Head Coach in the NFL is: Bill Belicheck

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. Come off it. That's absolutely ridiculous, if not insane! I have yet to see anyone say that Belicheck is crappy, and more often than not I hear that he's a pretty good coach. I hear more about him than I do about Cohwer! (not that I'm saying Cohwer's underrated. I hear plenty about him too. But Belicheck (is that even how you spell it?) is the coach I DEFINITELY hear the most about.)

The Patriots, if you ask me, are overrated now... I mean, c'mon. Losing to the Steelers -- okay. But they're not so OMGOMGOMGOMG AMAZING as you make them come off as being. They lost to the Miami Dolphins.

The Miami Dolphins, dude.

That's like the Kansas City Chiefs getting their asses kicked by the Bengals last year. THE MIAMI DOLPHINS. I hope they don't go to the Super Bowl just so I can post something directed at you. It will be three words.

The Miami Dolphins.
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 15:16
I can by this but what about Randel El?

You got a good point.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 15:30
You got a good point.

Thank You.
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 15:49
Originally Posted by Nureonia

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. Come off it. That's absolutely ridiculous, if not insane! I have yet to see anyone say that Belicheck is crappy, and more often than not I hear that he's a pretty good coach. I hear more about him than I do about Cohwer! (not that I'm saying Cohwer's underrated. I hear plenty about him too. But Belicheck (is that even how you spell it?) is the coach I DEFINITELY hear the most about.)

How can you say Belicheck is overated. He was a great cordenater with the "Tuna" with Giants, Patriots, and Jets. And became a savior to New England because he brought the first of two championships to New England.



Originally Posted by Nureonia

The Patriots, if you ask me, are overrated now... I mean, c'mon. Losing to the Steelers -- okay. But they're not so OMGOMGOMGOMG AMAZING as you make them come off as being. They lost to the Miami Dolphins.

How can you say the they are overated. The reason they lost to the Steelers is because most of their starters on defense were injuried and Corey Dillon didn't play. And the only reason they lost to the Dolphins is because Brady made two mistakes. 1: Passing with less than 5 minutes left in the game, which caused the third INT. 2: He threw a pass while falling after a hit, which caused the fourth INT.


Originally Posted by Nureonia

The Miami Dolphins, dude.

That's like the Kansas City Chiefs getting their asses kicked by the Bengals last year. THE MIAMI DOLPHINS. I hope they don't go to the Super Bowl just so I can post something directed at you. It will be three words.

The Miami Dolphins.

I think the Dolphins have been the most overated team in the NFL for the last few years. Let start it off. Jay Fiedler is the most overated quarterback in the NFL over the last five years. All he is, is a shitty blowhole quarterback he's never thrown for over 21 touchdowns, he useally has the same amount of INT's as he does TD's. And he fumbles all the time. And the same for A.J. Feeley. You know what really made me happy this year. Useally the reason they win is because of luck. But this time finnaly they suffered bad luck. :). I wonder where Ricky Williams is now. Oh yea maybe smoking pot and being a hippie. Where's the big acquisition David Boston. Oh yeah he injuried himself in training camp, out for the season. I wonder what happend to Adewale Ogunleye? Oh yea traded to Chicago Bears for a overated wide-reciver Marty Booker. I wonder what happend to head coach Dave Wannstedt? Oh yeah he quit because his team sucked and he was always a shitty coach that managed to win because of luck. And the Dolphins always lose in December which causes them to not make the playoffs sometimes. There will be a "Dark Period" of losing for the Dolphin for the next few years, and I'll be celebrating it everyday! :)
East Canuck
06-01-2005, 16:26
This is where I, as a Bengals fan, FOAM AT THE MOUTH.


The Patriots, if you ask me, are overrated now... I mean, c'mon. Losing to the Steelers -- okay. But they're not so OMGOMGOMGOMG AMAZING as you make them come off as being. They lost to the Miami Dolphins.

The Miami Dolphins, dude.

That's like the Kansas City Chiefs getting their asses kicked by the Bengals last year. THE MIAMI DOLPHINS. I hope they don't go to the Super Bowl just so I can post something directed at you. It will be three words.

The Miami Dolphins.
This is where I, as a Dolphin fan, FOAM AT THE MOUTH.

A Bengal fan should know better than to put down another team like that. Remember how you felt when it was you that was tasting the bitter cup of defeat week after week. If someone shouldn't throw stones it is a Bengal fan.

Besides, the Dolphins may have a shitty offense (and they do), but they were looking real good until a certain star up and left mere weeks before the start of the season. And we still have a tough defense. In fact, all the team of the AFC East have their defense in the top 9 of the league.

Now, as to my predictions:
The Jets will beat San Diego
Indiannapolis will win over Denver
Seattle will win over St-Louis
Green Bay will win over Minnesotta

then, New England will win, as is Pittsburg and Philadelphia and I predict that Green Bay will be able to beat Atlanta.

Third round will see Philadelphia finally make it to the super bowl and the final before the final will pit Pittsburg and New England. I think that New England will learn from their previous game and will win it all this year.
OceanDrive
06-01-2005, 16:56
.. Vick is exciting, but I'll take an actual quarterback over him.Thats why you willnever be a GM.
OceanDrive
06-01-2005, 16:58
True but he is better than Vick.
I will be more glad to trade...

when your get that Atlanta GM job...call me

1800-THX-SUKA
OceanDrive
06-01-2005, 17:07
How can you say Belicheck is overated. He was a great cordenater with the "Tuna"
The Tuna is nothing...he sux

it was all BeliCheckMate, all the way.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 19:50
I will be more glad to trade...

when your get that Atlanta GM job...call me

1800-THX-SUKA

This is what we call a sucker trade! Sorry dude no dice! I don't want Vick. I'll stick with the Vikings QB and any other QB. I don't want Mike Vike because he isn't all that he's cracked up to be.
La Terra di Liberta
06-01-2005, 19:54
Bengals AND Dolphins fans exist!?! I thought they were just urban legends that appeared every now and then when the team made the playoffs or had a .500 or above season :D.
Corneliu
06-01-2005, 19:58
Bengals AND Dolphins fans exist!?! I thought they were just urban legends that appeared every now and then when the team made the playoffs or had a .500 or above season :D.

:D
East Canuck
06-01-2005, 19:59
Bengals AND Dolphins fans exist!?! I thought they were just urban legends that appeared every now and then when the team made the playoffs or had a .500 or above season :D.

:p
Sanlos Astoria
06-01-2005, 20:21
The Tuna is nothing...he sux

it was all BeliCheckMate, all the way.

I know now that the "TUNA" sucks now. I'm talking about when he was the best in the 80's and 90's.

Originally Posted by La Terra di Liberta
Bengals AND Dolphins fans exist!?! I thought they were just urban legends that appeared every now and then when the team made the playoffs or had a .500 or above season .

LOL I didn't know Arizona Cardinals fans (more likely fan) existed! :p
The Zoogie People
06-01-2005, 22:28
I belive that the best overround player in the NFL meaning can play offense, defence, and special teams. Is the New England Patriots Troy Brown.

The Most Underated Defenseive Player in the NFL is: Tedy Bruschi
The Most Underated Offenseive Player in the NFL is: Brian Westbrook

The Most Overated Defenseive Player in the NFL is: Brian Ulacher
The Most Underated Offenseive Playe in the NFL is. Steve Mcnair

The Most Underated Head Coach in the NFL is: Bill Belicheck
The Most Overated Head Coach in the NFL is. Bill Cowher

Bill Belicheck and Steve McNair are underrated? Bill Belicheck gets the respect he deserves in my opinion, having won two out of the last three super bowls and all.


They are nothing like Mike.

Point taken. John Elway, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, etc, were actually skilled at the quarterback position. Vick, on the other hand, is a whole lot of hype. He does not deserve the pro bowl.

They were talking about Vick like he was the greatest thing since sliced bread when he was in college. If you really wanted to look at a fantastic rushing quarterback, look at every Nebraska quarterback from the 70's up to 2003.


It's "Chris" not "Jeff", Jeffs a kicker for San Francisco I think, not sure. Otherwise, good predictions although I hope the Packers-Viking one doesn't come true.


Whoops. Right ;)
Nureonia
06-01-2005, 22:36
This is where I, as a Dolphin fan, FOAM AT THE MOUTH.

A Bengal fan should know better than to put down another team like that. Remember how you felt when it was you that was tasting the bitter cup of defeat week after week. If someone shouldn't throw stones it is a Bengal fan.

See, I would feel bad, but I make fun of the Bengals just about as much as I make fun of other teams that aren't that great right now like the Dolphins and the 49ers.

Trust me, when we were going to play the Chiefs (who were undefeated at the time), I was like "Dude. We're going to get our asses kicked so bad. It's going to be hilarious."

Then we won. And then I giggled anyway. But that's not the point.

Also, we STILL suck fairly consistently. We've never won a Super Bowl. We've gone, like, twice. 8-8 are the last two times we've done well. And we don't even have an excuse like the Dolphins do, where your players keep getting injured/smoking pot. No offense. ;)

How can you say Belicheck is overated. He was a great cordenater with the "Tuna" with Giants, Patriots, and Jets. And became a savior to New England because he brought the first of two championships to New England.

I'M NOT SAYING HE'S OVERRATED! Find me where I said that he was overrated. I said he wasn't overrated. You are not either overrated or underrated. I think he's a good coach, but he's acknowledged enough that he is hardly overrated.

And I'm basically saying "dude, you guys lost to a shit team", and you're saying that that shit team is overrated? Doesn't that make it even more embarrassing that you guys lost?

Bengals AND Dolphins fans exist!?! I thought they were just urban legends that appeared every now and then when the team made the playoffs or had a .500 or above season .

Uh, dude. It's a fairly well known fact that if you put all of us together (Bengals, Cardinals, Dolphins... heck, I'd say Raiders but they almost won that one time. Gimme some other not-good teams), we ALMOST have HALF the fan base of a good team like the Eagles, Patriots, or Steelers.

Seriously, I have nothing against the Dolphins or the Cardinals. And I cheer for them (except when they're playing against the Bengals.)

Okay, so I don't cheer for the Browns, but that's a matter of divisions rather than me actually not liking them.
La Terra di Liberta
07-01-2005, 00:07
I do have a name, you realize Nureonia :D
Nureonia
07-01-2005, 03:04
Poppycock. If I can't remember it, you don't exist.
Teranius
07-01-2005, 03:25
My prediction:

Mike Vick plays like shit and the Falcons lose to the first team they play. I'm from Atlanta, too.

I like the Pats in the AFC, the Steelers have been long overdue for a loss.

It's anyones guess as to who will play for the NFC. However, they will get dominated by whatever AFC team they play in the Super Bowl.
La Terra di Liberta
07-01-2005, 06:54
Poppycock. If I can't remember it, you don't exist.


Of course, I'm a figment of everyone's imagination.
Sanlos Astoria
07-01-2005, 22:14
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. Come off it. That's absolutely ridiculous, if not insane! I have yet to see anyone say that Belicheck is crappy, and more often than not I hear that he's a pretty good coach. I hear more about him than I do about Cohwer! (not that I'm saying Cohwer's underrated. I hear plenty about him too. But Belicheck (is that even how you spell it?) is the coach I DEFINITELY hear the most about.)

That is were you said Belicheck is overated.
Tremalkier
07-01-2005, 22:26
True but he is better than Vick.
No, he has a supporting cast that Vick, or any quarterback besides Manning, would exchange for their present one. Vick has one target: Crumpler, whom is constantly double covered. What WRs does he have? Peerless Price?! Vick is very alike to McNabb in this, great QB, no targets. If you factor in his ground game, and gave him a better receiving corps...that offense would be unstoppable. Honestly, Vick has amazing power, even on the run, and is getting more accurate. Look at the drop numbers, they are 02-03' Eagles-esque.

Predictions:

Jets 24 Chargers 27

Colts 38 Broncos 27

Seahawks 27 Rams 17

Packers 35 Vikings 31

Second Round

Steelers 30-Chargers 24

Patriots 35- Colts 21

Eagles 21- Seahawks 14

Falcons 18- Packers 24

League Championship Round

Patriots 27-Steelers 21

Eagles 17- Packers 21

Superbowl

Patriots 38-Packers 20
East Canuck
07-01-2005, 22:30
No, he has a supporting cast that Vick, or any quarterback besides Manning, would exchange for their present one. Vick has one target: Crumpler, whom is constantly double covered. What WRs does he have? Peerless Price?! Vick is very alike to McNabb in this, great QB, no targets. If you factor in his ground game, and gave him a better receiving corps...that offense would be unstoppable. Honestly, Vick has amazing power, even on the run, and is getting more accurate. Look at the drop numbers, they are 02-03' Eagles-esque.

Predictions:

Jets 24 Chargers 27
Colts 38 Broncos 27

Seahawks 27 Rams 17

Packers 35 Vikings 31

Second Round

Steelers 30-Chargers 24

Patriots 35- Jets 17

Eagles 21- Seahawks 14

Falcons 18- Packers 24

League Championship Round

Patriots 27-Steelers 21

Eagles 17- Packers 21

Superbowl

Patriots 38-Packers 20
error...
does not compute! :headbang:
Tremalkier
07-01-2005, 22:34
error...
does not compute! :headbang:
Thats what happens when I change my predictions halfway through...and then don't edit what I started with
OceanDrive
07-01-2005, 23:18
They were talking about Vick like he was the greatest thing since sliced bread when he was in college. If you really wanted to look at a fantastic rushing quarterback, look at every Nebraska quarterback from the 70's up to 2003.

some 20 fantastic rushing quarterbacks...all better than Vick...

and I supose they were Drafted by an intergalactic Football League :D
Sdaeriji
07-01-2005, 23:20
some 20 fantastic rushing quarterbacks? all better than Vick?

and I supose they were Drafted by an intergalactic Football League :D

No, he's right. Nebraska has been putting out those running back/quarterbacks for years, and they all fizzle in the pros because they aren't enough of either position to succeed. Say all you want about Vick's athletic ability, he doesn't understand how to be a quarterback yet, and that has been his major undoing.
OceanDrive
07-01-2005, 23:27
No, he has a supporting cast that Vick, or any quarterback besides Manning, would exchange for their present one. Vick has one target: Crumpler, whom is constantly double covered. What WRs does he have? Peerless Price?!

exactamente...

The same for Troy Aikman, he was not so-great, he just had a very-very-good cast around him.
OceanDrive
07-01-2005, 23:32
.... they all fizzle in the pros because they aren't enough of either position to succeed. .
LOL

here is another tough:
those better-tha-Vick Fantastic Rushing Quarterbacks all "fizzled"...because they were just not good enough.
Just a tough. ;)

then again I guess you know better than me :D
Kwangistar
07-01-2005, 23:37
No, he's right. Nebraska has been putting out those running back/quarterbacks for years, and they all fizzle in the pros because they aren't enough of either position to succeed. Say all you want about Vick's athletic ability, he doesn't understand how to be a quarterback yet, and that has been his major undoing.
And Colorado... "Flash", anyone?

Even though thats the only one I can think of, he's like Vick :p
Crimson blades
08-01-2005, 00:15
My prediction would have to be

Pittsburgh Steelers with a win over the Philidelphia Eagles.

Even though this is biased due to my being a HUGE Steelers fan. I still do think that Pitt will win out the rest of the season.
OceanDrive
08-01-2005, 00:20
BreakingNEWS
Ty Law will not make it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6799836/
Sdaeriji
08-01-2005, 00:22
BreakingNEWS
Ty Law will not make it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6799836/

Yes, and the Patriots were only able to go 8-1 without him. They're doomed.
Sdaeriji
08-01-2005, 00:23
And Colorado... "Flash", anyone?

Even though thats the only one I can think of, he's like Vick :p

Slash.
Kwangistar
08-01-2005, 00:24
I have enough sports nicknames to remember over here in Philly, anyway :p
The Zoogie People
08-01-2005, 00:43
Slash.

Yes, he was good, but as I recall he was able to throw the ball with marginal effectiveness, and he just wasn't so overhyped. And the, uh, last time I saw him, he was punting for the Chicago Bears.
Silent Truth
08-01-2005, 00:48
PACKERS!!!!!!!!

That said, who wants to play "Guess what city I'm from?"
La Terra di Liberta
08-01-2005, 00:52
PACKERS!!!!!!!!

That said, who wants to play "Guess what city I'm from?"



Ugh, I hope not Green Bay.
Mikitivity
08-01-2005, 00:58
Super Bowl XXXIX: Steelers 28, Falcons 20.

Actually, I think it will be the Steelers over the Falcons as well!

But I'm a bit biased, I'm originally from Pittsburgh.
Corneliu
08-01-2005, 12:51
Pitt to the Superbowl!

Denver over Indy

SD over NYJ

GB over Minn

StL over Sea

Next Round:

Pittsburgh over Denver (This hurts me to say that)

NE over SD (This doesn't)

Philly over Stl

Atl over GB

Conference Finals

Pitt over NE

Philly over Atl

Superbowl:

Pitt over Philly!
OceanDrive
09-01-2005, 00:32
Denver over Indy

but...Manning only chokes when he plays outside :cool:
OceanDrive
09-01-2005, 01:05
WOW
3:00 left on the 3rd, Bulger takes a big Elbow to the head(just like the one that KOed Ferguson)...he doenst know where he is..has to take time out...

No call.

Too bad his name is not Manning or Favre.
Red1stang
09-01-2005, 01:20
Lets go Cowboys...in like two more years! I think the Patriots may have what it takes to win again, but Steelers are doing well this year, but not much confidence in their QB in playoff situations...USC on the other hand spanked OU, I was loving it
OceanDrive
09-01-2005, 01:55
Its official: The Rams OWN the Seahawks.
Gurnee
09-01-2005, 03:10
AFC:
Indianapolis(3)
Denver(6)

New England(2)
Indianapolis(3)

Indianapolis(3) vs. Pittsburgh(1)

Pittsburgh(1)
San Diego(4)

San Diego(4)
New York(5)

NFC:
Green Bay(3)
Minnesota(6)

Philadelphia(1)
Minnestoa(6)

St. Louis(5) vs. Philadelphia(1)

Atlanta(2)
St. Louis(5)


Seattle(4)
St. Louis(5)

Super Bowl: Indianapolis Colts over Philadelphia Eagles
(my pre-season prediction)
Squornshelous
09-01-2005, 03:14
The playoffs have been an especially depressing time of year the past two years. Can you guess why?
Corneliu
09-01-2005, 18:29
Rams and Jets take Saturday!

:)
The Zoogie People
09-01-2005, 19:15
I was a little surprised the Rams came up with that victory and the seahawks fell short, but I predicted all along the Jets would win ;) Ahahahah!! Behold my uber-predicting-powers! 1-1 so far. I also picked Indy (though, both as a Pats and Broncos fan, I hope Denver takes this one) and Green Bay.
Sarzonia
09-01-2005, 21:15
The playoffs have been an especially depressing time of year the past two years. Can you guess why?You're a Seahawks fan?
Nureonia
09-01-2005, 21:20
That is were you said Belicheck is overated.

No. I didn't. That does not say 'Belicheck is overrated'. That says 'I hear so much about Belicheck that he can't possibly be underrated.'
The Zoogie People
09-01-2005, 22:35
You're a Seahawks fan?

He could be one of those elusive Bengals fans, too.
Sdaeriji
09-01-2005, 22:44
No. I didn't. That does not say 'Belicheck is overrated'. That says 'I hear so much about Belicheck that he can't possibly be underrated.'

As a Patriots fan, I'll agree with that one. Belichick is universally regarded as a defensive mastermind, and while 29 out of 31 certainly shows he's not overrated, he most definately isn't underrated.
OceanDrive
10-01-2005, 04:38
BeliChekMate is simply the best...Ever.
OceanDrive
10-01-2005, 04:49
Wuahahaha
guess who threw 4 interceptions in the 2005 playoffs?

1-4 = 400 % ratio. :gundge:
OceanDrive
10-01-2005, 04:53
the minute he has to play on the road...Peyton Manning is going to Choke...

I did bet $500 to one of his fans (ezmoney :D )

Today I was able to add $300, lifeisgood :D
East Canuck
10-01-2005, 13:43
He could be one of those elusive Bengals fans, too.
Seeing as he's from Florida, I'd venture that he's a just-as-rare Dolphins fans.
Mistress Kimberly
11-01-2005, 04:39
All is well here in Minnesota as the Vikings were victorious!!! Muahahaha.

(And don't even get me started on the Randy Moss BS.....big freaking deal, its not like he actually pulled his pants down). :rolleyes:
OceanDrive
11-01-2005, 05:29
I say Moss can beat the Iggless.
Sarzonia
11-01-2005, 18:09
NFL Divisional Playoff Round

5 New York Jets (11-6, 2nd place AFC East)
at
1 Pittsburgh Steelers (15-1, 1st place AFC North)
Saturday, 4:30 p.m., CBS

SKINNY: The Pittsburgh Steelers have come off some also ran seasons with inconsistent play from starting quarterback Tommy Maddox and were counting on Duce Staley to help them possibly get back to the playoffs. That was before Maddox got hurt and Ben "That Damn Rookie" Roethlisberger stepped in. All the young signal caller did was win football games, going 13-0 and supplanting Maddox as the team's starter. During the streak, Staley also got injured and the team turned to longtime stalwart running back Jerome Bettis and rode The Bus to the best record in the league. Add in the top=ranked defense in the league and solid play from the receiving corps and this Steelers team is extremely hard to beat, especially at Heinz Field.

The New York Jets are coming off a dramatic, 20-17 overtime win over the San Diego Chargers in San Diego and are playing with emotion on their side. The team is hoping to make more news for their football exploits than for their quarterback's anti-media tirade a few weeks back. The team is also hoping the tight ship run by Coach Herman Edwards can prevent the team from leaking too heavily against a Steelers team that can methodically take advantage of any opponent's mistakes. The Jets hope defensive end John Abraham can play after missing his fifth straight game against the Chargers.

ANALYSIS: The Jets may have had a little luck on their side getting into the playoffs and may have had a lot of luck when Chargers kicker Nate Kaeding missed a 40 yard field goal that would have ended their season, but luck can only take you so far. If the Steelers can establish Jerome Bettis on the ground and play the kind of defense they played throughout the regular season, there aren't many teams that can even hold a candle to them. PREDICTION Steelers, 28-3.

5 St. Louis Rams (9-8, 2nd place NFC West)
at
2 Atlanta Falcons (11-5, 1st place NFC South)
Saturday, 8 p.m., FOX

SKINNY: The St. Louis Rams weren't expected to be here. Not after having to win two straight games to get to .500 and not with a record of 0-8 for .500 or below teams in postseason play. But here they are after beating the division champion Seattle Seahawks for the third time this season. The team brought back memories of its Greatest Show on Turf days with a cooly efficient performance by quarterback Marc Bulger and his strong right arm. The going will be considerably tougher for a Rams defense that faces a stern test against a rested Falcons team.

The Falcons are about more than Michael Vick, though that's sometimes hard to believe. As great a quarterback as he is, he still has to throw the ball every now and then. Tight end Alge Crumpler makes for a devastating target and can allow the team's running back by committee approach take some of the rushing duties off Vick. But it's Vick's scrambling ability and talent at improvising plays that keeps defensive coordinators glued to their film projectors,

ANALYSIS: The Rams didn't look like an 8-8 team when it demolished the Seahawks in a road tilt, but they also were facing a team that wasn't sure if they could win the game. For the Rams to be successful, they will have to do what they did to the Seahawks, and that is to score quickly and build up a big enough lead to take the hostile Georgia Dome crowd out of the game. For the Falcons, they will have to make enough plays on defense to keep the Rams from going out of control and they will have to make plays on the ground and through the air to win the game. Coach Jim Mora Jr. will also try to do something his father could never do: Win a playoff game as a head coach. PREDICTION: Falcons 29-17.

6 Minnesota Vikings (9-8, 2nd place NFC North)
at
1 Philadelphia Eagles (13-3, 1st place NFC East)
Sunday, 1 p.m., FOX

SKINNY: Much was made about the Minnesota Vikings being a demoralized football team that barely sneaked into the playoffs. A large dose of the focus on the team has been on enigmatic wide receiver Randy Moss, who stalked to the locker room with two seconds left and his team still having an outside shot at winning a game the Vikings felt they needed to make the playoffs. Moss managed to draw more attention on himself when he pretended to moon the Green Bay Packers fans in the Vikings upset win. But the true story of the game wasn't Moss. It was a team that pulled itself together and played more like the team that started the season 5-1 than the team that finished 3-7.

For the Philadelphia Eagles, this was supposed to be the year. Signing defensive end Jerome Kearse to terrorize opposing quarterbacks and trading for wide receiver Terrell Owens to have a legitimate threat for quarterback Donovan McNabb to throw to was supposed to be what put the Eagles over the hump and into the Super Bowl for the first time after three NFC Championship Game losses. But Kearse has had to struggle with injuries and Owens is out until the Super Bowl -- if the Eagles advance that far. Without Owens, the team is ordinary in the passing game at best. Todd Pinkston doesn't have the fearlessness or the bravado of Owens and corners don't have to toss and turn facing him the way they do when Owens lines up wide.

ANALYSIS: If Owens were playing, this would be a no-brainer. The Vikings would be supremely overmatched defensively and the Eagles would cruise into the NFC Championship game with an opportunity to give Koy Detmer some playing time. Without Owens, the Vikings can hope to add to the four takeaways they had against Brett Favre and the Packers. The Eagles will have to count on Brian Westbrook to provide them the running attack to open things up for McNabb to Pinkston and McNabb to Freddy Mitchell. They will also have to hope that McNabb can do to the Vikes what Minnesota's Duante Culpepper did to the Packers. Their defense will have to take over and harrass the Vikings offense the way the Washington Redskins managed to in the season finale. PREDICTION: Eagles, 24-21.

3 Indianapolis Colts (13-4, 1st place AFC South)
at
2 New England Patriots (14-2, 1st place AFC East)
Sunday, 4:30 p.m., CBS

SKINNY: The Denver Broncos tried desperately to reverse their fortunes after being blown out by the Indianapolis Colts in last year's playoffs. They traded for cornerback Champ Bailey and signed safety John Lynch to stiffen a defense that leaked like a sieve against the Colts high-powered offense. It didn't work. The Colts scored eight more points (49) than they did against Denver a year ago and quarterback Peyton Manning was nearly a consensus pick for the league's most valuable player award. Add in receivers Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley, and teams will have a hard time playing nickel defense and trying to get past a Colts offensive line that doesn't get nearly enough credit. And if teams somehow manage to slow down the passing game, Edgerrin James can run the ball down your throat.

The New England Patriots have managed to steer clear of the Super Bowl hangover that plagues many defending champions, continuing to play at a high level except for two games. They continue to prosper in spite of injuries that forced the team to play wide receiver Troy Brown as a defensive back in some sets behind a suddenly potent running game led by a rejuvenated Corey Dillon. But quarterback Tom Brady continues to be a spread-the-wealth kind of quarterback so if you have one receiver covered, he has a comfort level with several others and will throw the ball to any of them. Defensively, the team is absolutely ravaged by injuries and has lost cornerback Ty Law to injured reserve. However, the people they do have make the Patriots defense one that keeps offensive coordinators up late. And if the game goes down to a final kick, they have arguably the greatest clutch field goal kicker in history, Adam Viniatieri ready to win the game for them.

ANALYSIS: Manning has had a wondrous season for the Colts, breaking Dan Marino's nearly 20 year old record for the most touchdown passes in a single season and shatering Steve Young's passer efficency rating. However, he and the Colts struggle in the outdoor cold of Gillette Stadium in Foxboro and the Patriots are playing in their element. They also have managed to continue to win in spite of crippling injuries by being extraordinarily well-coached. PREDICTION: New England 31-18.
The Zoogie People
12-01-2005, 05:03
Sarzonia, how dare you debase my Jets in that way? :) I'm actually going for a Jets victory here, in another physical, slow, drawn-out game. My opinion of Roethlisburger is not the highest. He won thirteen games by going 4-9 for 10 yards in each one. My prediction here may be biased, but I'm going for the Jets, whose Curtis Martin will not only beat whatever Steelers running back starts, but whose Chad Pennington will reignite a passing game that exists again.

The Rams are 8-8, but might as well be 10-6 in my opinion. The one thing the Rams have going for them is an explosive offense. They don't have a great running game, but against Atlanta I don't think they quite need one. Atlanta will most likely be playing keepup all day long, but we all know how Vick's arm vs. Bulger's arm will result. This might be close, but looking back at the Chief's 56-10 victory with Priest Holmes playing 5 minutes and second and third-stringers tearing up the Falcons defense, I think it's going to be a 14 point win for the Rams.

My opinion of the Vikings defense changed after the Packers game. Again, this might be bias, but I don't think the Eagles are going to win. I think they might still have some linebacker injuries, and the Vikings offense is going to probably click more than the Eagle's offense. With TO, it's another story but I think the Vikings take it here.

As for the Colts-Patriots...I am a Patriots fan more than anything else, so my prediction of Manning completing 30% of his passes and getting a 1-6 TD-int ratio may be just a TAD biased, but I think the Patriots take it here, in a close game, probably high-scoring as well. I think Tom Brady and the Patriots are going to exploit that sieve-like Colts secondary more and more consistently than the Broncos did.
OceanDrive
16-01-2005, 06:18
...we all know how Vick's arm vs. Bulger's arm will result. This might be close, but... I think it's going to be a 14 point win for the Rams..
Yes we all know ;)
Corneliu
16-01-2005, 14:24
Pitt and Atlanta move on!!!!

THANK GOD PITT PULLED THAT ONE OUT!!!!!!!
Gurnee
16-01-2005, 18:26
Pitt and Atlanta move on!!!!

THANK GOD PITT PULLED THAT ONE OUT!!!!!!!
Thank god indeed... I hate the Jets as I do all teams from NY. Which is why my friend, my dad, and I were going crazy like it was the NBA Finals when the Bulls beat the Knicks yesterday... so much do I hate them. Take that you damn Jets. I just hope the Vikings can pull off the upset over Philly. It's unlikely, but possible with no TO for the Eagles. It was a close game in these two teams' last meeting, and that was when TO was in, so you never know. We could have an 8-8 team in the NFC Championship Game.
The Zoogie People
17-01-2005, 00:41
I am crushed that the Jets lost. And that the Vikings lost. And that the Rams lost. Wow, bad week for me, eh? The Jets so had that game iced, and when Brien's kick came up one foot short the defense came up with the ball the very next play and gave him the icer again, and he failed - again. That game should have been won by the Jets.

The Vikings lost, but I don't mind that much, because Philadelphia looked so dominant that they definitely deserved this game. And they'll beat the Falcons for sure. The Falcons were by me two-score underdogs to the Rams. I didn't watch the game and had NO idea what happened. I can't believe the score.

I'm still pulling for a Pats win though.

[edit] Now that the Pats are up 20-3, in what may be described as only a 'rout,' suddenly, I'm not crushed at all anymore. I believe I said here that Peyton Manning would swagger in all 'Oh, ho-ho, look at me, I am your master, Pwn!!!" and fail miserably. You heard it here first!
OceanDrive
17-01-2005, 04:43
the minute he has to play on the road...Peyton Manning is going to Choke...

I did bet $500 to one of his fans (ezmoney :D )

*smiles all the way to the Bank* :) :) :)
Ashbah
17-01-2005, 04:48
arrrrgghhhh the colts got smoked!
Alomogordo
17-01-2005, 04:53
the minute he has to play on the road...Peyton Manning is going to Choke...

I did bet $500 to one of his fans (ezmoney :D )
That bet sure looks good now, huh? Manning the choke artist.
Alomogordo
17-01-2005, 04:55
arrrrgghhhh the colts got smoked!
Yeah! Two years in a row! Take that Mike Vandershank! Brady pwns you!
The Zoogie People
17-01-2005, 05:48
I think Vinny pwns Vandy as well. Vinny might give Brady a run for the money, with his terrific passer rating...1/1, 6 yards, TD.
OceanDrive
17-01-2005, 05:54
I think Vinny pwns Vandy as well. Vinny might give Brady a run for the money, with his terrific passer rating...1/1, 6 yards, TD.
Who is Vinny?

And the Choker is Manning, not the Kicker.
Kwangistar
17-01-2005, 05:55
Who is Vinny?

And the Choker is Manning, not the Kicker.
Viniateri, I guess.
OceanDrive
17-01-2005, 06:00
Viniateri, I guess.
ahh, Viniateri,
ya he is good and so is Vanderjack..
The Zoogie People
17-01-2005, 06:27
Yes we all know ;)

SHUT UP! QUIET! ;) Still don't know how THAT happened.

Vinny = Vinatieri.
OceanDrive
17-01-2005, 06:35
SHUT UP! QUIET! McNabb is the second Best QB, but he is no Superman :cool:
Sdaeriji
17-01-2005, 06:41
Man, I can't believe Manning and all those amazing Colts recievers lit up the Patriots secondary for so many touchdowns.:D
Corneliu
17-01-2005, 15:03
Pitt over NE

Atl over Phi

Pitt over Atl to WIN IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!

HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO
OceanDrive
17-01-2005, 15:03
Man, I can't believe Manning and all those amazing Colts recievers lit up the Patriots secondary for so many touchdowns.:D

hahahaha...

and it was a rag-tag make-up secondary
The Zoogie People
18-01-2005, 00:32
Philadelphia is going to take the NFC ring, T.O. or no. I'm not expecting a repeat performance from the Falcons - the Eagles actually have a defense, and a good one too.

And the Eagles also have a nice running game, something the Rams really didn't. The last time the Falcons played against a team with such a nice running game (that I recall, anyway ;)) resulted in a 56-10 loss, with 3rd string running backs tearing up their D-line for touchdowns. How many rushing touchdowns again? Eight?

Pittsburgh will now get an introduction to Corey Dillon in a Patriots uniform. And they'll lose. The Colts have a crew of top-notch receivers and a top-notch quarterback that has performed ridiculously well this season, amassing 49 touchdowns in fifteen games. Pittsburgh has a rookie quarterback who's been throwing around fifteen times a game, and whose leadership should have resulted in a loss to the Jets. I don't see it happening.

Patriots v. Eagles, and the Patriots will naturally triumph. If they can cover Harrison, Stokely, Wayne, Pollard, Clark, and James, then T.O. won't be much of a problem.
Copiosa Scotia
18-01-2005, 08:12
Philadelphia is going to take the NFC ring, T.O. or no. I'm not expecting a repeat performance from the Falcons - the Eagles actually have a defense, and a good one too.

Solid, but not spectacular. They blitz a lot (generally a mistake), and Vick will find ways to make them pay for that. Recall Denver, a top-five defense going into their regular season game against Atlanta. More team speed on defense than probably anyone else in the league, and they still couldn't contain Vick.

And the Eagles also have a nice running game, something the Rams really didn't. The last time the Falcons played against a team with such a nice running game (that I recall, anyway ;)) resulted in a 56-10 loss, with 3rd string running backs tearing up their D-line for touchdowns. How many rushing touchdowns again? Eight?

You can't really believe that the Chiefs game was anything but a fluke, nor can you believe that the Philadelphia running game is anywhere near as good as the Chiefs. The Eagles were twenty-sixth in the league in rush yards per game, only two spots higher than the Rams. Atlanta's defense was ninth in the league against the run, and only one NFC team was better. I really don't think the Falcons have much to worry about here. By contrast, Atlanta has the best rush offense in the league, and Philly a pedestrian sixteenth-ranked rush defense. Don't even bring up passing games. Philadelphia's best wideout right now is actually a halfback.

Pittsburgh will now get an introduction to Corey Dillon in a Patriots uniform. And they'll lose.

Pittsburgh has the best run defense in the NFL. I don't see Dillon making much of a difference. Pittsburgh will drop people into coverage and dare Corey Dillon to beat them. And he won't.

The Colts have a crew of top-notch receivers and a top-notch quarterback that has performed ridiculously well this season, amassing 49 touchdowns in fifteen games.

The Colts have an offense that plays in a dome, passes on 55% of its plays and predictably sputters when it plays in cold, windy conditions. They also have a complicated offense that depends almost entirely on the quarterback making reads at the line, and can be thrown off when a defense gives too many different looks.

Pittsburgh has a rookie quarterback who's been throwing around fifteen times a game, and whose leadership should have resulted in a loss to the Jets. I don't see it happening.

Pittsburgh has a simplified run-first offense that makes things easy on their rookie quarterback. It's because Roethlisberger only has twenty-one pass attempts per game this season that Pittsburgh is winning. They run the ball and play tough defense, and that's been a recipe for success throughout the history of the NFL. If there's one thing we learned from Sunday's playoff game, it's that Ben can play a terrible game and the Steelers will still have a chance to win. Heck, he didn't even play against a red-hot Bills team that had to win to make the playoffs, and the Steelers still won. At any rate, you won't see another game like Sunday's from him again this year.

Patriots v. Eagles, and the Patriots will naturally triumph. If they can cover Harrison, Stokely, Wayne, Pollard, Clark, and James, then T.O. won't be much of a problem.

Steelers over Falcons in a great old-school football game.
Corneliu
18-01-2005, 14:08
Steelers over Falcons in a great old-school football game.

My prediction too!
Ace_ Rimmer
18-01-2005, 14:27
Take Doug Brien, Anthony Becht, John Abraham, Toby Gowin and Paul Hackett, and drop them off a very very tall building, please.
Kwangistar
18-01-2005, 14:44
Don't even bring up passing games. Philadelphia's best wideout right now is actually a halfback.
So? Atlanta's leading reciever is a tight end who dosen't even have 50 catches. Do you really think that, without TO, Atlanta's passing attack is close to Philly's?

And the Chiefs game was a fluke? How about the rout at Tampa or the Arizona game? Both of those teams have worse running defenses (19th and 27th), and their rushing offense are both bad as well (29th and 22nd). Vick can be stopped, its just a question of whether the opposing coaches decide to or not.
Sarzonia
18-01-2005, 22:27
NFC Championship

2 Atlanta Falcons (12-5, first place, NFC South)
at
1 Philadelphia Eagles (14-3, first place, NFC East)
Sunday, 3 p.m. FOX

SKINNY: The Eagles have been here before. In fact, the team is known for doing its best impression of the Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl when it appears in the NFC Championship game. The team has had competitive losses and it's been manhandled. The team signed wide receiver Terrell Owens in an effort to address what has been its biggest weakness, having a gamebreaking pass receiving threat who can change the complexion of a game. Unfortunately for the Eagles, Owens is out with a severe ankle injury and is doubtful to return even if the team makes it to the Super Bowl. But the Eagles have had running back Brian Westbrook all season long, which they didn't have last year. Their defense has also been tough on the pass and has improved against the run since returning Jeremiah Trotter to the lineup at middle linebacker.

The Falcons parlayed the return of quarterback Michael Vick into the second best record in the mediocre NFC and have the NFL's top-ranked rushing attack. Granted much of it is through the footwork of Vick, but a thunder and lightning approach with T.J. Duckett and Warrick Dunn also helps the team keep the ball on the ground and keep it out of the air. The team's best pass catching threat is tight end Alge Crumpler, who is dangerous if he's out in the open field, but wide receiver Peerless Price has been anything but Peerless. The saving grace for the Falcons is the fact their defense is much better than the Minnesota Vikings unit that McNabb and company sliced up en route to a 27-14 victory.

ANALYSIS: This would be an easy game to predict if the Atlanta Falcons didn't have the feel of a one man team. Yes, the Falcons can get pressure on the quarterback and yes, they can defend well and their running attack leads in total yards rushing. But the Falcons have proven they can't win without Michael Vick and teams that rely so heavily on one player seldom prosper in the playoffs. The Falcons might win this game, but if they do, they won't win the Super Bowl. PREDICTION: Eagles, 28-10. The streak is due to end.

AFC Championship
2 New England Patriots (15-2, first place AFC East)
at
1 Pittsburgh Steelers (16-1, first place AFC North)
Sunday, 6:30 p.m., CBS

SKINNY: The Patriots are back in the AFC Championship game for the third time in four years. This year's crew is potentially better than the team that won its second Super Bowl in three years with the addition of Corey Dillon and the continued maturing of quarterback Tom Brady. Brady continues to spread the ball around and usually makes good decisions with the ball, though he'll sometimes make a "what was he thinking" play. Defensively, the loss of Ted Washington in the middle may have had a small impact on the team's ability to stuff the run, but the team is still a ferocious defensive presence and with Bill Belichick calling the shots, they're still hard to bet against.

The Pittsburgh Steelers have garnered a lot of attention this year thanks to the exploits of rookie quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. That Damn Rookie (TDR) continued his winning ways with the Steelers knocking the New York Jets out of the playoffs after an overtime field goal by Jeff Reed. TDR had one of the best games by any signal caller against the Patriots defense in their previous meeting at Heinz Field and the Patriots were never in the game. But that was when Dillon was out with an injury and Kevin Faulk hadn't worked his way into the rotation. That was also before the league had much of a chance to adjust to TDR.

ANALYSIS: The biggest advantage that works in Pittsburgh's favor is the fact this game is being played in Heinz Field. The team has only one loss all season and has played tough defense all year. But New England is no slouch defensively either and an offense with as many weapons as it has including Dillon and many receivers will be a challenge for Bill Cowher to gameplan against. This may be the toughest game of all to predict. PREDICTION: New England 27-24. Adam Viniatieri kicks a 44 yard field goal in the dying seconds to send the Patriots back to the Super Bowl once again.

Enjoy the games!
Alomogordo
18-01-2005, 22:46
I'm gonna say what I said at the beginning of the playoffs: Pats over Steelers, Falcons over Eagles, Pats over Falcons to take it all.
Copiosa Scotia
19-01-2005, 09:33
So? Atlanta's leading reciever is a tight end who dosen't even have 50 catches. Do you really think that, without TO, Atlanta's passing attack is close to Philly's?

Atlanta has the run game to overcome their passing deficiencies. Westbrook can't play halfback and wideout at the same time, and the Atlanta defense will be focusing on him. Vick has three credible offensive weapons in Warrick Dunn, Alge Crumpler, and Peerless Price. McNabb has one, and it's Westbrook. Todd Pinkston wouldn't even be the third wide receiver on most NFL teams.

And the Chiefs game was a fluke? How about the rout at Tampa or the Arizona game? Both of those teams have worse running defenses (19th and 27th), and their rushing offense are both bad as well (29th and 22nd). Vick can be stopped, its just a question of whether the opposing coaches decide to or not.

Perhaps I should have been more clear. I didn't mean to suggest that the Falcons were unbeatable, but that the Chiefs game was a fluke with respect to the gaudy rushing statistics that the Chiefs put up against the Falcons. It won't happen again, especially not with Westbrook and a rather average Philadelphia offensive line.

It's worth noting that in both of the games you mention, Atlanta still managed to roll up over 150 rushing yards. Turnovers killed them both times, and it's unlikely that Atlanta will turn the ball over four times, as they did against Arizona, or five times, as they did against Tampa Bay, when they play Philly.
Formal Dances
21-01-2005, 23:48
Pittsburgh over New England

Atlanta over Philadelphia

Pittsburgh wins the Super Bowl over Atlanta.
Kwangistar
21-01-2005, 23:54
Atlanta has the run game to overcome their passing deficiencies. Westbrook can't play halfback and wideout at the same time, and the Atlanta defense will be focusing on him. Vick has three credible offensive weapons in Warrick Dunn, Alge Crumpler, and Peerless Price. McNabb has one, and it's Westbrook. Todd Pinkston wouldn't even be the third wide receiver on most NFL teams.
Are you seriously calling Peerless Price a threat? Ahmad Carroll could cover him 1v1 and shut him down. He actually managed to get over 100 less yards than the "4th reciever" Pinkston.
Ogiek
22-01-2005, 00:17
Is it too late to make a prediction? I think the Colts will beat the Packers in the Super Bowl.
The Sapphire Phoenix
22-01-2005, 00:46
Anyone who says Pinkston is a reason why the Eagles won't win, obviously wasn't watching the Vikings game.

He played excellent alongside Mitchell, Simth, and Westbrook.

Heck I didn't really even see Westbrook all the much, other than his TD, during the entire game.
Corneliu
22-01-2005, 19:15
Is it too late to make a prediction? I think the Colts will beat the Packers in the Super Bowl.

Problem! Packers and Colts are out of the playoffs.

Steelers over Falcons to win the Super Bowl
OceanDrive
23-01-2005, 02:15
So? Atlanta's leading reciever is a tight end who dosen't even have 50 catches. Do you really think that, without TO, Atlanta's passing attack is close to Philly's.
If Vick puts on the "S"...there is no stoping him.

Thats why i just accepted a $100 bet. (Im betting Vick wins again)
OceanDrive
23-01-2005, 02:23
Are you seriously calling Peerless Price a threat? Ahmad Carroll could cover him 1v1 and shut him down. He actually managed to get over 100 less yards than the "4th reciever" Pinkston.
I agree, Vick do not have good receivers,
but im betting he will come tru...because he is like Mike.
New York Jet Fanatics
23-01-2005, 02:25
so far i have been doing very well in the playoffs, the only games i picked incorrectly were the packers and seahawks. for what's left i say:

steelers 38 falcons 27
patriots 10 eagles 19

steelers 13
falcons 10
Sarzonia
04-02-2005, 22:35
Super Bowl IXL (I know they've probably got it as XXXVIIII, but I think that's wrong).

2 New England Patriots (16-2, AFC Champions)
vs.
1 Philadelphia Eagles (15-3, NFC Champions)
Alltel Stadium, Jacksonville Florida
Sunday, 6:18 p.m. FOX

SKINNY: The New England Patriots have been one of the NFL's truly great teams of the last two years, winning the Super Bowl despite a non descript running game last year on the strength of a "who do we cover" passing attack led by quarterback Tom Brady. Now that Corey Dillon left NFL purgatory in Cincinnati, the Patriots are a much harder team to defend. They have the strong running from Dillon, the arm of Brady, and seemingly a half dozen receivers who can all get open. Defensively, they have an aggressive scheme manned by some of the smartest players in the league and they're getting a key guy back in defensive end Richard Seymour. Beyond that, they have one of the great clutch kickers of today in Adam Vinatieri and a coaching staff of neo-geniuses who hardly need two weeks to prepare for anyone.

The Philadelphia Eagles finally made it to the Super Bowl after three failures in the NFC title game and are 60 minutes away from their first NFL title since before the Super Bowl's existence. The Eagles got here largely on the strength of Donovan McNabb to Terrell Owens during the regular season, but with Owens out due to a leg injury, running back Brian Westbrook and wide receiver Freddie Mitchell stepped their games up at various moments. Defensively, the return of former Redskin and prodigal Eagle Jeremiah Trotter to the starting middle linebacker position improved the run defense from an identifiable weakness to a strong enough area not to be a major concern. With the biggest of the two weeks leading up to the game being the health of Terrell Owens, the rest of the team has every right to be miffed at the lack of recognition. Kicker David Akers is also one of the NFL's best, and Coach Andy Reid has assembled an organization that is among the very best. Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson is widely known as an aggressive playcaller.

ANALYSIS: The loss of cornerbacks Ty Law and Tyrone Poole on the Patriots would have sunk a lesser team, but with longtime veteran wideout Troy Brown switching to defensive back to help plug up the holes in the lineup, the Patriots hardly missed a beat. The offense has been steady during the season and Coach Bill Belichick's bunch easily avenged their loss to Pittsburgh during the regular season. The sideshow of the Eagles and the whole Terrell Owens saga along with the soap opera of Freddie Mitchell's comments about the New England defense threatened to take away from the discussion about the game, but most casual observers won't even pay attention to all that once the ball flies off the tee and the game starts. The story of the game will be Belichick and the Patriots defense exposing Donovan McNabb, Terrell Owens not being ready to play the full game, and Freddie Mitchell paying a steep price for his comments. Given the opportunity, Brady and Belichick will likely win their third Super Bowl in four years in what passes for a dynasty in today's NFL. PREDICTION: Patriots 29-10.

Enjoy the game!
Sdaeriji
04-02-2005, 22:42
It's Super Bowl XXXIX.

I was wondering if they'd name next year's Super Bowl XL. Imagine the marketting opportunities.
OceanDrive
04-02-2005, 22:55
I dont understand...Last year SuperBowl was more appealing...more interesting...

This one is not getting me exited...

i wonder why...
Corneliu
04-02-2005, 23:03
Patriots will win the Super Bowl
Sdaeriji
04-02-2005, 23:04
I dont understand...Last year SuperBowl was more appealing...more interesting...

This one is not getting me exited...

i wonder why...

Because you're upset your team didn't make it?
OceanDrive
04-02-2005, 23:10
Because you're upset your team didn't make it?I dont have a Favorite team, I have favorite Players and Coaches...

My fav coach is Belicheckmate.
I have a couple of fav in each SuperBowl team including the QBs,
Squornshelous
04-02-2005, 23:44
Seeing as he's from Florida, I'd venture that he's a just-as-rare Dolphins fans.

Close, but no cigar.

I'm from Tampa.
Haloman
05-02-2005, 00:05
The pats have proved time and time again that they are indeed the best team in football. Just for fun, let's call them underdogs again. Brady seems to do well when this happens.
Myrmidonisia
05-02-2005, 00:19
Pats win in a blowout.

There will be people blinded by rubber bullets in Boston during the celebration and there will be cars burned and business looted in Philly after the defeat.

Boston cops 1, Party goers 0

Philly cops 3, Thugs 7
Sarzonia
07-02-2005, 19:18
It's Super Bowl XXXIX.

I was wondering if they'd name next year's Super Bowl XL. Imagine the marketting opportunities.

Yep, you're right.

Marketing would have a field day with a Super Bowl XL.

Oh, and congratulations champ!
Stone Bridges
16-01-2006, 08:43
Welp, we're now at the AFC and NFC Championship. Once again, please make your prediction of who will win next weekend! Mine will be in bold.

Broncos Vs. Steelers

Panthers Vs. Seahawk.
OceanDrive3
16-01-2006, 09:00
Patriots won't go to the Super Bowl. It'll be the Steelers or the Broncos but not the Patriots.Congrats.. Good Call
Harlesburg
16-01-2006, 10:19
Broncos Vs. Steelers

Panthers Vs. Seahawk.
Peisandros
16-01-2006, 10:23
I'll pick...
Broncos and Seahawks.
Harlesburg
16-01-2006, 10:26
IXL (I know they've probably got it as XXXVIIII
'You ok?

Come on Denver!
Peisandros
16-01-2006, 10:29
Come on Denver!
Any reason why us NZ'ers like Denver or just coincidence?
Harlesburg
16-01-2006, 10:33
Any reason why us NZ'ers like Denver or just coincidence?
I hate the other teams in fact i dislike Denver but they are the best of the rest.
Harlesburg
16-01-2006, 11:27
I'll pick...
Broncos and Seahawks.
Not the Seahawks.
Forfania Gottesleugner
16-01-2006, 11:40
The Patriots are gonna be so pissed they threw their last game away like total asshats that they are going to storm the superbowl and steal all the footballs. This will of course result in death for all involved as an enranged crowd descends upon the field consuming all flesh in their path.
Harlesburg
16-01-2006, 11:46
The Patriots are gonna be so pissed they threw their last game away like total asshats that they are going to storm the superbowl and steal all the footballs. This will of course result in death for all involved as an enranged crowd descends upon the field consuming all flesh in their path.
They got most of the 50/50 calls against them and gave up ten points in 48 seconds then when Porn Mo pulled off some freakish plays Denver edged away.
Testerverde also missed a kick.:mp5:
Delator
16-01-2006, 12:14
AFC: Steelers @ Broncos

NFC: Panthers @ Seahawks

I'll even take it a step further...

Super Bowl: Broncos vs Panthers
Forfania Gottesleugner
16-01-2006, 12:18
They got most of the 50/50 calls against them and gave up ten points in 48 seconds then when Porn Mo pulled off some freakish plays Denver edged away.
Testerverde also missed a kick.:mp5:

Thus the throwing away part of my post. As for bad calls the pass interference was not 50/50 it was pure and utter bullshit. There wasn't even a flag for a good five seconds after the play which should never happen.
Corneliu
16-01-2006, 16:49
Congrats.. Good Call

One thing I notice about her. When she makes a prediction, she's usually right.
Corneliu
16-01-2006, 16:50
Any reason why us NZ'ers like Denver or just coincidence?

I lived over in Colorado Springs for abit and started to watch Football there. Now I live over by Pittsburgh but ya know? This is the 2nd time they are meeting in the AFC Title game and once again, I'm rooting denver.
The Nazz
16-01-2006, 16:57
Well, after this weekend, I'm going with Seattle and Denver in the big game. I like the Panthers--Jake Delhomme is from my neck of the woods--but with Foster out, they're even more one dimensional now, and I'll be really surprised if Smith has anything close to that kind of game against Seattle.

And as for Pittsburgh, winning three in a row on the road, with the third at altitude, is damn near impossible. And once again, the notion that you can rest your big guns and they won't be affected is shown to be a bad idea in re Indianapolis.
Stone Bridges
16-01-2006, 17:14
Everyone is loving on the Panthers here. :D
USSNA
16-01-2006, 17:30
What does any of this guessing matter? It's once again the Patriots year!

Utracia I'm fron Cincy too. I was at the Bengals Playoff game. So sad what happened to Palmer. I'm looking forward to next year though.

Who Dey!
Corneliu
16-01-2006, 17:43
Who Dey!

*in voice of steelers*

WE DEY!!!
Fleckenstein
16-01-2006, 17:45
Everyone is loving on the Panthers here. :D

but not their offense

Pittsburgh @ Denver

Carolina @ Seattle


Carolina lost me after the whole doctor-giving-roids-during-super-bowl-run thing.

the same year they beat my eagles.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES
Stone Bridges
16-01-2006, 18:30
but not their offense

Pittsburgh @ Denver

Carolina @ Seattle


Carolina lost me after the whole doctor-giving-roids-during-super-bowl-run thing.

the same year they beat my eagles.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES

Oh boo hoo lol. They beat the Eagles fair and square. Also, I never heard about the roids, when was this?
Stone Bridges
16-01-2006, 18:32
Well, after this weekend, I'm going with Seattle and Denver in the big game. I like the Panthers--Jake Delhomme is from my neck of the woods--but with Foster out, they're even more one dimensional now, and I'll be really surprised if Smith has anything close to that kind of game against Seattle.

And as for Pittsburgh, winning three in a row on the road, with the third at altitude, is damn near impossible. And once again, the notion that you can rest your big guns and they won't be affected is shown to be a bad idea in re Indianapolis.

Eh, Foster may be out but Goings is in, and he's a hard hitter. Foster is a great player, but he's being replaced by another great player.
USSNA
16-01-2006, 18:46
*in voice of steelers*

WE DEY!!!

I'm not going to whine about a low hit or anything, I was at the game and it was a clean move, but that game would of been a lot different if Carson wasn't hurt.

Anyway, I did root for the steelers last Sunday. I'd rather see one of our own go to the superbowl than the Colts. The Steelers are a great team and I can see them at the Superbowl. Good luck guys!

Bengals Fan And Proud Of It!
Corneliu
16-01-2006, 18:51
I'm not going to whine about a low hit or anything, I was at the game and it was a clean move, but that game would of been a lot different if Carson wasn't hurt.

Who said i was talking about the hit? It was a clean hit despite what the coach and a few fans think about it.

Anyway, I did root for the steelers last Sunday.

Good!

I'd rather see one of our own go to the superbowl than the Colts. The Steelers are a great team and I can see them at the Superbowl. Good luck guys!

This is going to be one hell of a AFC title game. No doubt about it.
Zaxon
17-01-2006, 15:04
I'll take the Seahawks over Pittsburg on Feb 5th.
Utracia
17-01-2006, 23:06
Utracia I'm fron Cincy too. I was at the Bengals Playoff game. So sad what happened to Palmer. I'm looking forward to next year though.

Who Dey!

I only saw the game on TV but I still had that sense of coming doom with Palmer being injured so early in the game. There is a reason Kitna is the #2 QB.

Just awful, the Bengals go down and then my Patriots lose as well. Awful year but at least the damn Colts are gone as well. Looks like the Seahawks year at the moment...
Stone Bridges
17-01-2006, 23:07
I'll take the Seahawks over Pittsburg on Feb 5th.

*psh*, It's Carolina Vs. Pitts.
Ruloah
18-01-2006, 00:21
Steelers all the way!!!

Go Steelers, go Steelers!

First time a #6 seed has gone to the Championship game...

First time a #6 seed will win the Championship game and go to the Superbowl...

First time a #6 seed will win the Superbowl!

Go Steelers, go Steelers!
Go Steelers, go Steelers!!
Go Steelers, go Steelers!!!:D :D :D
USSNA
18-01-2006, 01:11
I only saw the game on TV but I still had that sense of coming doom with Palmer being injured so early in the game. There is a reason Kitna is the #2 QB.

Just awful, the Bengals go down and then my Patriots lose as well. Awful year but at least the damn Colts are gone as well. Looks like the Seahawks year at the moment...

Kitna is actually a good quarterback, people forget that he is the one who trained Palmer. It's just that I dont think he has the body to keep a good game going. He played one hell of a first half. But he got too loose second half and lost it.
Utracia
18-01-2006, 02:47
Kitna is actually a good quarterback, people forget that he is the one who trained Palmer. It's just that I dont think he has the body to keep a good game going. He played one hell of a first half. But he got too loose second half and lost it.

I view Kitna with the old Bengals the ones who are lucky to win 3 games a season, the mockery of the NFL. From what I have seen he is an average quarterback who got picked off plenty and suffered having a crappy defense which couldn't keep the score down. Palmer when he DOES recover for next season should have a defense that is more experienced and should be able to stop the run better then they did this year.
Zaxon
18-01-2006, 14:46
*psh*, It's Carolina Vs. Pitts.

We shall see now, won't we? :)

Considering I'm also a Carolina fan (moving to Charlotte this year!) it wouldn't be horrible if Seattle lost, but I still have to go with the guys I've been rooting for since 1977 (yeah, I missed their first year--I was little, okay?).

:D
USSNA
21-01-2006, 18:59
I view Kitna with the old Bengals the ones who are lucky to win 3 games a season, the mockery of the NFL. From what I have seen he is an average quarterback who got picked off plenty and suffered having a crappy defense which couldn't keep the score down. Palmer when he DOES recover for next season should have a defense that is more experienced and should be able to stop the run better then they did this year.

Yea. That was one of the weak spots we had this year. But Palmer rose to the challenge and completed so many passes. I really am looking forward to next Year. Palmer is young and should be able to recover. I'm just worried about the start of the season. I'm thinking of geting season tickets.
Kibolonia
21-01-2006, 19:27
Kitna is actually a good quarterback, people forget that he is the one who trained Palmer. It's just that I dont think he has the body to keep a good game going. He played one hell of a first half. But he got too loose second half and lost it.
Kitna is badass. He doesn't have the strongest arm, but he's smart. His offense quit on him, and his defense quit playing period. Ugh and that desperation play calling. There was so much game left, play your game, keep the defense honest. Wait for the mismatch and exploit it.

Kitna was the only thing the Bengals had going in that game. Boohoo, Plamer went down. There's still a playoff game on the line, and a lot of talent on offense. They way the Bengals just folded up their tent and quit doesn't speak highly of their toughness.
Zaxon
23-01-2006, 04:51
*psh*, It's Carolina Vs. Pitts.

Um, you were saying.....? I really thought the Carolina/Seattle game was going to be a lot closer.

I'm still going with my original pick of Seattle over Pittsburg on February 5th.

But I'm still keeping my Peppers jersey handy for next year. Goes in the same pile as my Trufant and Alexander jerseys--where it's always been. It just didn't see service this particular week.
Formal Dances
24-01-2006, 01:23
I am picking Pittsburgh to win the Super Bowl.