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Is the book of revelation about the end of days coming true? We all know from basic Sunday school that the book tells of the second coming and the apcoalypse by God where he destroys the Earth and ends time. Is that choatic time coming in our era? Have the four horse men begun to ride across the Earth. For those who dont know, the four Horse men bring tortue upon the Earth as begin thier terrible ride across the Earth. The First two horsemen, one carring a sword and one holding a bow, brings war and conquest upon the earth. Look at our century. Two World Wars, Nuclear bombs and chemical weapons. In modern times, we have someone dying becuase of an act of war every two minutes. There are currently 30 differnt actions going on all over the world. (Delcared and Undeclared). Like the war on drugs and armed Rebels all around the world. Next you have the last two Horsemen, one carrying a time scale and the other a skeleton. They bring disease upon the Earth. The CDC predicts a new Flu to break out of Asia and spread and kill millions. The bible also says that disaters will constantly shake the Earth like volcanos and Earth quakes. The recent Tsunami earth quake was soo powerful that it shook the axis of the Earth. In yellowstone, there is a super volcano that could blow anyday and shroud half the US under ash. The point is, Revelation is calling for tough times before the Second Coming.

Look the the 11th century. People waged wars all the time, there were catastrophies (alas, not as life-consuming as today - there wasn't enough people around to be struck by it). There's always been disease, and the apocalypse didn't come then.

So no, God is not going to destroy a grain of sand in the test tube that is the universe, just because some people on the grain of sand have been naughty.

Is the book of revelation about the end of days coming true? We all know from basic Sunday school that the book tells of the second coming and the apcoalypse by God where he destroys the Earth and ends time. Is that choatic time coming in our era? Have the four horse men begun to ride across the Earth. For those who dont know, the four Horse men bring tortue upon the Earth as begin thier terrible ride across the Earth. The First two horsemen, one carring a sword and one holding a bow, brings war and conquest upon the earth. Look at our century. Two World Wars, Nuclear bombs and chemical weapons. In modern times, we have someone dying becuase of an act of war every two minutes. There are currently 30 differnt actions going on all over the world. (Delcared and Undeclared). Like the war on drugs and armed Rebels all around the world. Next you have the last two Horsemen, one carrying a time scale and the other a skeleton. They bring disease upon the Earth. The CDC predicts a new Flu to break out of Asia and spread and kill millions. The bible also says that disaters will constantly shake the Earth like volcanos and Earth quakes. The recent Tsunami earth quake was soo powerful that it shook the axis of the Earth. In yellowstone, there is a super volcano that could blow anyday and shroud half the US under ash. The point is, Revelation is calling for tough times before the Second Coming.

Ragnarog is coming! Run!

Ragnarog is coming! Run!
It's Ragnarok. >_>
And, to put it mildly, no. No way in hell. The world's not ending. >_>

Apparently to theologians yes. But what it's said about the end, is quite similar to most major wars and natural disasters. (Though it says that it'll cover 1/3 of the world, and 1/3 would die).


Other pointers from Danial, Jeremiah etc.. I'm no pro, I can't quote you, but in according to prophecies I've read somewhere...


-The jews would have to claim back the Holy Land, and they had claimed back their holy land (Jeruselam).

-Now what is left, is for the temple in Jeruselam to be rebuilt. But the muslim's mosque is still there. Once it falls apart.. then time to start worrying. :p

Because thats where Jesus would come back and land on.

He'd probably get a minaret straight up his arse then.

Probably means Allah's right after all.

Look the the 11th century. People waged wars all the time, there were catastrophies (alas, not as life-consuming as today - there wasn't enough people around to be struck by it). There's always been disease, and the apocalypse didn't come then.

So no, God is not going to destroy a grain of sand in the test tube that is the universe, just because some people on the grain of sand have been naughty.
exactly. if you want disaster, look to the middle ages! if THAT wasnt the end times, then this isnt either.

isnt 2000 years long enough to wait?

Revelation, like Genesis, is to be understood as methaphor, not to be taken literally. The apparent "increase" in disasters is actually due to the increased population and the dispersal of humanity all over the globe. Disasters that might have been of little or no impact a century ago now affect populated areas. Another factor at work here is the rise of mass media. Disasters now get more, and instant, coverage.

Damn, the END is coming AGAIN??? (http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrld.htm#menu) I'll get me coat.

We have lived in fear of death and destruction throughout our history and this has always led people to think the end of the world was near. There has always been prophesies of plagues, floods, fire and brimstone and all that stuff. The people of Pompeii must have thought the day had come, certainly Europe during the Black Death and countless wars.

Personally I foresee a load more bad things happening before each of us snuff it, but the world will go on some and probably see worse. It doesn't take Nostradamus to predict that. The great thing about St John in comparison to Nostradamus, is that no one can say St John got it wrong because that day is always yet to come...

And, of course, prophecy is always so vague that you can ALWAYS find something to attribute it to.

Imagine what a new Krakatau would do today. :rolleyes:

The book of Revelations is just a metaphor. It is a satire of Rome and the pagan rule at the time and their persecution of christians. There's sufficient evidence, in my opinion, that it is just that.

For example, in the ancient greek alphabetical and numbering system the number 666 has an association with a specific person who Christians didn't like one little bit: Nero Caesar.

The four horsemen are about plagues that could happen, and often did happen in the Roman empire. I don't suspect that it's the apocalypse now.

We all know from basic Sunday school that the book tells of the second coming and the apcoalypse by God where he destroys the Earth and ends time...
LMFAO!!! :rolleyes:

Erm, no, we all don't...pretty big leap of imagination to make there.

Look the the 11th century. People waged wars all the time, there were catastrophies (alas, not as life-consuming as today - there wasn't enough people around to be struck by it). There's always been disease, and the apocalypse didn't come then.

Or the 14th Century.

There was pestilence (the Bubonic plague), Famine (a miny ice age caused wide starvation), and war (really a no brainer, there war hardly a year when there was no war, especially not this century), and one could consider Death a given.

if it is, in fact, the end of time, then i say party at my place. i'll buy the first keg.

if it is, in fact, the end of time, then i say party at my place. i'll buy the first keg.
Yer on! :D

The book of Revelations is just a metaphor. It is a satire of Rome and the pagan rule at the time and their persecution of christians. There's sufficient evidence, in my opinion, that it is just that.

For example, in the ancient greek alphabetical and numbering system the number 666 has an association with a specific person who Christians didn't like one little bit: Nero Caesar.

The four horsemen are about plagues that could happen, and often did happen in the Roman empire. I don't suspect that it's the apocalypse now.

Exactly... Revelation paints a pretty good (metaphorical) picture of the declining Roman Empire.

And, maybe it's just me? But, I'm not ALL that impressed by people predicting things, as they happen. :)

Exactly... Revelation paints a pretty good (metaphorical) picture of the declining Roman Empire.

And, maybe it's just me? But, I'm not ALL that impressed by people predicting things, as they happen. :)
Awww comeon … I can make some vague generalized comments that are bound to fit some situation hundreds of times in the next 2 k years! And you wouldn’t be impressed by that?
(I mean practically the same thing as telephone fortune tellers like cleo … got to respect cleo)

I was wondering how long it would take after that tsunami for the crazies to start preaching the appocolypse again.

Awww comeon … I can make some vague generalized comments that are bound to fit some situation hundreds of times in the next 2 k years! And you wouldn’t be impressed by that?
(I mean practically the same thing as telephone fortune tellers like cleo … got to respect cleo)

Except, in that case - they we describing stuff as it was happening.

It'd be like someone looking back in two thousand years, at the CNN coverage of the Tsunami, and saying "Wow, how'd they predict that!"

Not much of a trick to only writing prophecy about stuff that already happened... :)

Except, in that case - they we describing stuff as it was happening.

It'd be like someone looking back in two thousand years, at the CNN coverage of the Tsunami, and saying "Wow, how'd they predict that!"

Not much of a trick to only writing prophecy about stuff that already happened... :)
Aww takes all the fun out of it

I'm sure the apocalypse is near. The great prophet Douglas Adams has announced that the Earth is going to be demolished by Vogons "nearly two thousand years" after Christ died. Most believe this was in the year 30. So depending on how many years "nearly" means, the apocalypse could come any Thursday from now until Easter 2030. Logical, right? ;)

I can make some vague generalized comments that are bound to fit some situation hundreds of times in the next 2 k years!

And in the Fall of a King, Great War shall come over the World of Men, thus that the very Earth shall be Reddened With Blood!

Convincing enough?

Is the book of revelation about the end of days coming true?

Let me put this as simply as possible:


NO!



mmkay?

Like said before, anyone can make a general statement about the end of the world. It's really got to be frightening, so OF COURSE there's going to be "war, disaster, and famine" in an end-of-the-world scenario. In any armageddon scenario, those three threads are common.

Like said before, anyone can make a general statement about the end of the world. It's really got to be frightening, so OF COURSE there's going to be "war, disaster, and famine" in an end-of-the-world scenario. In any armageddon scenario, those three threads are common.
I wonder if any end of the world scenario’s involve world piece and fluffy bunnies? I mean the world could still end and not be caused by the peace or fluffy bunnies

I wonder if any end of the world scenario’s involve world piece and fluffy bunnies? I mean the world could still end and not be caused by the peace or fluffy bunnies

Im talking about Armageddon, not merely the end of the world. Armageddon is generally bad and stuff. Chances are, in my opinion, we'll all be blown to bits by a giant astroid that hits the earth.

Im talking about Armageddon, not merely the end of the world. Armageddon is generally bad and stuff. Chances are, in my opinion, we'll all be blown to bits by a giant astroid that hits the earth.

Actually, if you check your scripture, there is only one reference to "Armageddon", and it is a place, not an event.

Revelation 16:16 "And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon".

And, of course, Armageddon merely is the transliteration of either Har-Megiddo or Ar-Megiddo (either the Hill or the City of Megiddo).

It is probably a reference to the plain of Esdraelon - the site of the battles between Barak and the Canaanites, and between Gideon and the Midianites.
It is also the death place of Saul and Josiah.

The scene of war, yes - but historical wars... and not exactly the end of the world.

I've also seen Revelation being compared to many other disaster myths found the world over and argued that it wasn't a prophecy, but distorted memories of a global catastrophy in the distant past, possibly caused by a supernova fragment passing through the solar system, which could also account for the many oddities found in various planets' axises, rotations and orbits, including earth's (not only is the axis tilted, but it's spinning a bit faster than it's suppose to be) as well as the biblical flood and indeed the flood myths found in pretty much every ancient culture around the world except Japan and Egypt...

/me makes some popcorn and sits back to watch the world end.

the tsunami was a warning. A warning which man is either ignoring or does not understand. Hence, another major disaster will strike the world. And they will keep coming until man stops ignoring the signs and acknowledges God as the Creator and ruler of everything.

Im talking about Armageddon, not merely the end of the world. Armageddon is generally bad and stuff. Chances are, in my opinion, we'll all be blown to bits by a giant astroid that hits the earth.
I don't agree. The world will, for all civilized intents and purposes, end in 2012 when the Yellowstone Caldera erupts, destroying most of the middle and Eastern US, and blocking out sunlight with volcanic dust and debris for several years resulting in the destruction of virtually all agriculture. Small groups of humans may suvive here and there, but the vast majority of humanity will die from starvation.

Anybody ever watch that bible code shit on tv? I ain't religious, but it sure scared the shit outta me.

Anybody ever watch that bible code shit on tv? I ain't religious, but it sure scared the shit outta me.
Yes, but I don't put much credence in it. But even if it were true, why be afraid? We're all going to die anyway. :)

Yes, but I don't put much credence in it. But even if it were true, why be afraid? We're all going to die anyway. :)

Well if it turns out to be true, that means God is real. And if that's the case, looks like I may be spending eternity in a fiery pit nestled in the corner of Hell.

Snip.

And what happens if God doesn't exist? What, then?

Well if it turns out to be true, that means God is real. And if that's the case, looks like I may be spending eternity in a fiery pit nestled in the corner of Hell.
Hey. You pays yer money and you makes yer choice.

Anybody ever watch that bible code shit on tv? I ain't religious, but it sure scared the shit outta me.

You also saw the part, where, using the same technology and code, they found references in Moby Dick to Prince Diana's death (I think that's who it was) and something else.

You also saw the part, where, using the same technology and code, they found references in Moby Dick to Prince Diana's death (I think that's who it was) and something else.
Nah. Assassination of a high-up in some government. Same thing that the guy who wrote the Bible Code said would make him admit that he was wrong. That's why they used Moby Dick.

The thing about the Bible Code is, it's worthless. You can't find out anything from it until after it happens so you know what you're looking for...

I got a question for you guys. Say, if the four horsemen were to come to earth (literally, not metaphorically): do you think that the US would try to A) bomb them or B) ally with them

The thing about the Bible Code is, it's worthless. You can't find out anything from it until after it happens so you know what you're looking for...
Same thing goes for the prophecies of Nostradamus, and most other "prophetic writings."

Same thing goes for the prophecies of Nostradamus, and most other "prophetic writings."

I'm a prophet. "There will be war in the future." See? :D

I've done numerous studies about Revelation, though most conservative Christian Theolgians take most of Revelation literally, they all agree that the four horsemen of the Apocolypse are to be taken metaphorically, they each represent a certian crisis during the end of days, the white horse rider being the antichrist, the red horsemen the harbringer of destruction of war, the black horse of famine and the pale horse of massive death toll.