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Can't we all get along???

Meaning
03-01-2005, 02:14
I don't care if ur a commie or a capitilist, I don't care if you are black or white. I don't care if u belive in evolvtion or creatationism. I don't care if u are a republican or democrat. I don't care if ur a teen or an adult. And i don't care if u are female or male, or queer gender. WE ARE ALL HUMANBEINGS. And being so we should all keep open minds and open hearts. Stand behind ur ideas and ur morals but never judge another preson's, just listen to it and if u don't like it fine, if u like it fine. just lets all get along. Is that impossible? We all bleed the same color blood, we all have the same basic needs and we all have wants. I know its not much but it is some common ground. The only reason i say this b/c i have been in alot of threads and i saw how everyone was arguing and for what can we just get alone, is that even possible or am i just having my heart on my sleeve and being too idealistic? Just remember if we all get alone the world would be a better place. It takes all of us not just one.
Perisa
03-01-2005, 02:17
Yes, we can, and I'll stab anyone who doesn't agree with me.
Slacker Clowns
03-01-2005, 02:25
There are some people I *don't* want to get along with. Like psychopaths.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-01-2005, 02:29
There are some people I *don't* want to get along with. Like psychopaths.

Trust me. You may think you're getting along with them, but they are just waiting for the right moment. *nod*


Wackos like me are much easier to get along with. As long as you don't mind getting your clothes dirty and are not easily offended by occasional nudity, all is well. :)
Superpower07
03-01-2005, 02:32
Can we get along?

I think the NS General Forum answers this question adequately
Hobbslandia
03-01-2005, 02:36
I agree whole heartly. Too many threads end up as name calling or abuse because of differing points of view. Personally, I'm just glad I live in a society that allows us to have different points of view.
I've been a member of the Lions for about 20 years, and I try to follow their ethics.
Lions Code of Ethics

To Show my faith in the worthiness of my vocation by industrious application to the end that I may merit a reputation for quality of service.

To Seek success and to demand all fair remuneration or profit as my just due, but to accept no profit or success at the price of my own self-respect lost because of unfair advantage taken or because of questionable acts on my part.

To Remember that in building up my business it is not necessary to tear down another's; to be loyal to my clients or customers and true to myself.
Whenever a doubt arises as to the right or ethics of my position or action towards others, to resolve such doubts against myself.

To Hold friendship as an end and not a means. To hold that true friendship exists not on account of the service performed by one another, but that true friendship demands nothing but accepts service in the spirit in which it is given.

Always to bear in mind my obligations as a citizen to my nation, my state, and my community, as to give them my unswerving loyalty in word, act, and deed. To give them freely of my time, labor and means.

To Aid others by giving my sympathy to those in distress, my aid to the weak, and my substance to the needy.

To Be Careful with my criticism and liberal with my praise; to build up and not destroy
Bunglejinx
03-01-2005, 02:46
I don't care if ur a commie or a capitilist, I don't care if you are black or white. I don't care if u belive in evolvtion or creatationism. I don't care if u are a republican or democrat. I don't care if ur a teen or an adult. And i don't care if u are female or male, or queer gender. WE ARE ALL HUMANBEINGS. And being so we should all keep open minds and open hearts. Stand behind ur ideas and ur morals but never judge another preson's, just listen to it and if u don't like it fine, if u like it fine. just lets all get along. Is that impossible? We all bleed the same color blood, we all have the same basic needs and we all have wants. I know its not much but it is some common ground. The only reason i say this b/c i have been in alot of threads and i saw how everyone was arguing and for what can we just get alone, is that even possible or am i just having my heart on my sleeve and being too idealistic? Just remember if we all get alone the world would be a better place. It takes all of us not just one.

I don't remember who said it, but one famous author once declared "I've never learned anything from any man who agreed with me."

We should care about conflicting opinions and beleifs, and if we really care about our beleifs, we should really care to challenge and debate them so that they hold up so that we aren't wasting our lives beleiving in wrong things.

It does matter if you are a democrat or republican, it affects our country and the world either for better or worse, and if you are concerned, you should care also.

It does matter whether we are here because of evolution or creationism. One implies the existence of an intelligent creator, and people on the wrong track are either going to spend an eternity in torture in hell or spend their lives preaching false ideas and false morality, only corrupting those they affect if they are good at it.

If we as people really care about one another, we care about challenging one another's beleifs and proclaiming our opinions to influence people with our way of thinking, if we really think it's right. At the same time we should welcome such challenges from others to hone and refine our own beleifs and reflect on what we are spending our lives beleiving and preaching.

As for people that can still in some airy way 'respect' others even though they fiercly disagree with every one of their beleifs (would you respect someone who beleives in decapitating children?) I would hardly want that kind of a friend at all. They would value a National Socialist just the same as they would Ghandi, if beleifs truly weren't an issue.

I am totally on your side as far as wanting to get along (in general, but not by sacrificing my values and judgements and morality), not wanting so much ignorance, insults and name calling, and wanting the world to be a better place. I agree with that, and respect you and all the other posters in this thread and everyone here who wants that at as well... because I share the same beleif.
Volvonce
03-01-2005, 02:58
*claps, runs out into the street and hugs someone to show we can get along*
Meaning
03-01-2005, 03:03
most people who say we can get along stay and write something but those who disagree vote no and don't write. I would like to hear some reasons y we can't get along
Bunglejinx
03-01-2005, 03:19
I wrote some.
Meaning
03-01-2005, 03:23
I wrote some.


I thought u agreed with me. For the most part.
Gnostikos
03-01-2005, 03:47
is that even possible or am i just having my heart on my sleeve and being too idealistic?
I myself am quite an idealist, but this is just silly. Life naturally competes, and humans are no exception. In fact, we're the worst of all organisms. "Can't we all just get along?" is one of the weakest and most pathetic questions...time philosophising is much better spent in other areas. Until we evolve further, and probably not then, we will continue to fight and bicker over the silliest things.
Zahumlje
03-01-2005, 03:56
Why should we? Who is gonna make us? You and who'se army? hhahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
Lashie
03-01-2005, 04:16
I don't care if ur a commie or a capitilist, I don't care if you are black or white. I don't care if u belive in evolvtion or creatationism. I don't care if u are a republican or democrat. I don't care if ur a teen or an adult. And i don't care if u are female or male, or queer gender. WE ARE ALL HUMANBEINGS. And being so we should all keep open minds and open hearts. Stand behind ur ideas and ur morals but never judge another preson's, just listen to it and if u don't like it fine, if u like it fine. just lets all get along. Is that impossible? We all bleed the same color blood, we all have the same basic needs and we all have wants. I know its not much but it is some common ground. The only reason i say this b/c i have been in alot of threads and i saw how everyone was arguing and for what can we just get alone, is that even possible or am i just having my heart on my sleeve and being too idealistic? Just remember if we all get alone the world would be a better place. It takes all of us not just one.

I love u soo much for sayin that. my answer is a big YES! please try guys c'mon... we all feel the same emotions, we all need friends PLEASE TRY
Bodies Without Organs
03-01-2005, 04:50
...WE ARE ALL HUMANBEINGS...


Excellent: these puny Earth creatures suspect nothing of our fifth column...
Mentholyptus
03-01-2005, 04:53
Any experienced Generalite will tell you that it is categorically impossible for NSers to get along. Any threads that generate agreement end quickly and are forgotten. Only the strong topics with vicious and vigorous debate attract interest and are perpetuated...until locked. People who advocate getting along tend to be ignored, since it's not nearly as much fun as arguing.
Just my two cents.
Vittos Ordination
03-01-2005, 04:59
Why would I want to get along? Most people suck ass.


...that's right, you know who you are.... :mad:
Alomogordo
03-01-2005, 05:41
I love u soo much for sayin that. my answer is a big YES! please try guys c'mon... we all feel the same emotions, we all need friends PLEASE TRY
Group hug!! :fluffle:
Lunatic Goofballs
03-01-2005, 05:43
Why would I want to get along? Most people suck ass.


...that's right, you know who you are.... :mad:

I have never sucked an ass.


...sober. :p
The Doors Corporation
03-01-2005, 05:50
I am amazed that NS has been around for like 3 years and these discussions are still going on...
Lunatic Goofballs
03-01-2005, 05:52
I am amazed that NS has been around for like 3 years and these discussions are still going on...

I have never had a discussion.


...sober. :p
Yiddnland
03-01-2005, 06:01
Not very likely when we're so different
Bunglejinx
03-01-2005, 23:18
I thought u agreed with me. For the most part.

Actually, for the most part, I don't agree with you. Here again, are some points I think are worth considering.

listen to it and if u don't like it fine, if u like it fine. just lets all get along. Is that impossible?
If we as people really care about one another, we care about challenging one another's beleifs and proclaiming our opinions to influence people with our way of thinking, if we really think it's right. At the same time we should welcome such challenges from others to hone and refine our own beleifs and reflect on what we are spending our lives beleiving and preaching.

As for people that can still in some airy way 'respect' others even though they fiercly disagree with every one of their beleifs (would you respect someone who beleives in decapitating children?) I would hardly want that kind of a friend at all. They would value a National Socialist just the same as they would Ghandi, if beleifs truly weren't an issue.

I don't care if u are a republican or democrat.It does matter if you are a democrat or republican, it affects our country and the world either for better or worse, and if you are concerned, you should care also.


I don't care if u belive in evolvtion or creatationism.It does matter whether we are here because of evolution or creationism. One implies the existence of an intelligent creator, and people on the wrong track are either going to spend an eternity in torture in hell or spend their lives preaching false ideas and false morality, only corrupting those they affect if they are good at it.

And I could have gone on.

If you overlooked all of that just for my last paragraph you missed a lot.
Pure Metal
03-01-2005, 23:33
I don't care if ur a commie or a capitilist, I don't care if you are black or white. I don't care if u belive in evolvtion or creatationism. I don't care if u are a republican or democrat. I don't care if ur a teen or an adult. And i don't care if u are female or male, or queer gender. WE ARE ALL HUMANBEINGS. And being so we should all keep open minds and open hearts. Stand behind ur ideas and ur morals but never judge another preson's, just listen to it and if u don't like it fine, if u like it fine. just lets all get along. Is that impossible? We all bleed the same color blood, we all have the same basic needs and we all have wants. I know its not much but it is some common ground. The only reason i say this b/c i have been in alot of threads and i saw how everyone was arguing and for what can we just get alone, is that even possible or am i just having my heart on my sleeve and being too idealistic? Just remember if we all get alone the world would be a better place. It takes all of us not just one.
i would love for people to get along, just nobody else seems to want to.
and you've got the right ideas there - stick to em. there's no such thing as too idealistic. together we can build a better world... if anyone else would let us :(
Bunglejinx
04-01-2005, 03:27
el bumpo
Von Witzleben
04-01-2005, 03:39
Any experienced Generalite will tell you that it is categorically impossible for NSers to get along. Any threads that generate agreement end quickly and are forgotten. Only the strong topics with vicious and vigorous debate attract interest and are perpetuated...until locked. People who advocate getting along tend to be ignored, since it's not nearly as much fun as arguing.
Just my two cents.
Very true.
Helennia
04-01-2005, 03:44
Personally I enjoy a good argument ... but generally, I like to get along. Unless it's with radical green politicians who harass you with environmentally-unfriendly laminated leaflets, or people who come door-knocking to chastise me for my non-belief in their religion, or universities deciding not to run the third-year maths course you've been working towards for the last two years, dammit! :headbang:
Rangerville
04-01-2005, 03:45
I am a very idealistic person, but i do think there is a difference between liking someone and believing in them, and respecting their opinion. I respect everyone's right to say what they want, even if it means expressing hatred for one group of people, however i could never be friends with that kind of person. I can't even respect them as a human being. However, I never resort to insults or namecalling, and i am polite to everyone, unless they give me a reason not to be. I don't hate anyone, but there are plenty of people i don't have compassion for. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. If you are a basically decent human being, you will always have my respect, but you have to earn it first.
PIcaRDMPCia
04-01-2005, 03:47
I don't care if ur a commie or a capitilist, I don't care if you are black or white. I don't care if u belive in evolvtion or creatationism. I don't care if u are a republican or democrat. I don't care if ur a teen or an adult. And i don't care if u are female or male, or queer gender. WE ARE ALL HUMANBEINGS. And being so we should all keep open minds and open hearts. Stand behind ur ideas and ur morals but never judge another preson's, just listen to it and if u don't like it fine, if u like it fine. just lets all get along. Is that impossible? We all bleed the same color blood, we all have the same basic needs and we all have wants. I know its not much but it is some common ground. The only reason i say this b/c i have been in alot of threads and i saw how everyone was arguing and for what can we just get alone, is that even possible or am i just having my heart on my sleeve and being too idealistic? Just remember if we all get alone the world would be a better place. It takes all of us not just one.
Nice idea, but it won't ever work; humanity can't manage it. And personally, I don't want to get along with some people here; there are some here--I won't mention by name--that I despise and I don't want to have anything to do with them.
Bunglejinx
04-01-2005, 04:43
I am a very idealistic person, but i do think there is a difference between liking someone and believing in them, and respecting their opinion. I respect everyone's right to say what they want, even if it means expressing hatred for one group of people, however i could never be friends with that kind of person. I can't even respect them as a human being. However, I never resort to insults or namecalling, and i am polite to everyone, unless they give me a reason not to be. I don't hate anyone, but there are plenty of people i don't have compassion for. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. If you are a basically decent human being, you will always have my respect, but you have to earn it first.

Sounds agreeable. Treat people with general good will, but don't agree with them at the expense of your own values.
Physchonia
05-01-2005, 01:28
To put it simply:

Everyone is equal. No man is great, no man is terrible, we're all gray in our own way. People must realize that this means there is no such thing as Superiority, or the Political Food Chain, Social Classes. Everyone is equal. The only people who may or may not be worse are the people who THINK they're BETTER.

IE: Racists. Honestly, what pisses me off is that most racists think "AMERICA = EQUAILTY", and they're so ept on the bill of Rights, and then they put OTHER PEOPLE DOWN. Like in Animal Farm:

"ALL PEOPLE ARE CREATED EQUAL. SOME ARE JUST MORE EQUAL THEN OTHERS"

Equality comes with being born, and being human. It's against me to say, 'I'm better then them because they insult me,' but isn't that just throwing myself into being a worse person? It's a hard decision...

But to answer the question, I think we CAN get along...its just no one really WANTS to.
Le Chat de Noir
05-01-2005, 01:48
as long as free will exists humans will not get along... or unless the population drops from this blasted six and a half billion to like a hundred... then maybe human will get along for the sake... even then... maybe if u drop the pop. to twelve... just dont include anyone like me... *smile*
Cabbage Land
05-01-2005, 01:53
I don't care if ur a commie or a capitilist, I don't care if you are black or white. I don't care if u belive in evolvtion or creatationism. I don't care if u are a republican or democrat. I don't care if ur a teen or an adult. And i don't care if u are female or male, or queer gender. WE ARE ALL HUMANBEINGS. And being so we should all keep open minds and open hearts. Stand behind ur ideas and ur morals but never judge another preson's, just listen to it and if u don't like it fine, if u like it fine. just lets all get along. Is that impossible? We all bleed the same color blood, we all have the same basic needs and we all have wants. I know its not much but it is some common ground. The only reason i say this b/c i have been in alot of threads and i saw how everyone was arguing and for what can we just get alone, is that even possible or am i just having my heart on my sleeve and being too idealistic? Just remember if we all get alone the world would be a better place. It takes all of us not just one.Clean up the grammar and then send that message to every NS nation when they join. Then when they ignore you obliterate them. Or you can just give up.