NationStates Jolt Archive

Yep, the government is considering whether they should expend taxpayer money to build sparkly new prisons for people they have no evidence against so that they can keep them locked up for life:
(http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=XXJC4W15OEDDUCRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=7217367)


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration is preparing plans for possible lifetime detention of suspected terrorists, including hundreds whom the government does not have enough evidence to charge in courts, The Washington Post reported Sunday.

Citing intelligence, defense and diplomatic officials, the newspaper said the Pentagon and the CIA had asked the White House to decide on a more permanent approach for those it would not set free or turn over to courts at home or abroad.

As part of a solution, the Defense Department, which holds 500 prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, plans to ask the U.S. Congress for $25 million to build a 200-bed prison to hold detainees who are unlikely to ever go through a military tribunal for lack of evidence, defense officials told the newspaper.

The new prison, dubbed Camp 6, would allow inmates more comfort and freedom than they have now, and would be designed for prisoners the government believes have no more intelligence to share, The Post said.

"Since global war on terror is a long-term effort, it makes sense for us to be looking at solutions for long-term problems," Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, was quoted as saying. "This has been evolutionary, but we are at a point in time where we have to say, 'How do you deal with them in the long term?"'


The Land of the Free indeed.... well, unless somebody suspects that maybe you might have been tangentally related to somebody else... maybe.

A question, how can people have had intelligence to share (which they have run out of), but not have had enough intelligence to have it incriminate themselves?

Yep, the government is considering whether they should expend taxpayer money to build sparkly new prisons for people they have no evidence against so that they can keep them locked up for life:
(http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=XXJC4W15OEDDUCRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=7217367)



The Land of the Free indeed.... well, unless somebody suspects that maybe you might have been tangentally related to somebody else... maybe.

A question, how can people have had intelligence to share (which they have run out of), but not have had enough intelligence to have it incriminate themselves?

It'll never stand up to constitutional review by the courts. Waste of time.

As much as I would like to agree with the article, I am more worried about a terrorist commiting a terrorist act outside of the walls of a prison that refused to hold him due to circumstantial evidence than one held in a prison on circumstantial evidence.
There is in fact a war going on, and such a situation merits adjustments to the judicial system

It'll never stand up to constitutional review by the courts. Waste of time.
Oh ye little of faith. Remember which party is in control of the senate during the next four years, and how old the justices are...

As much as I would like to agree with the article, I am more worried about a terrorist commiting a terrorist act outside of the walls of a prison that refused to hold him due to circumstantial evidence than one held in a prison on circumstantial evidence.
There is in fact a war going on, and such a situation merits adjustments to the judicial system

For all they know, you're "Jimmy Jihad" or your parents, or anybody close to you. If one of those bastards in power thought for whatever reason that you were an "enemy combatant" you'd be in the exact same position as them. There really is no real criteria for these people. They were taken illegally and are being held illegally. And this new facility is a direct affront to the U.S. Constituion and everything every true American has fought and died for. i hope every day that something happens to bring America back to it's ways of truth, justice and the American way.

And about it not standing up in courts Goofball, that's the beauty of ignoring the constitution, these people don't get a court date, ever.

Yep, the government is considering whether they should expend taxpayer money to build sparkly new prisons for people they have no evidence against so that they can keep them locked up for life:
(http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=XXJC4W15OEDDUCRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=7217367)

A fantastic idea, because, as any fule knoes internment was the key to bringing peace to Northern Ireland.

A question, how can people have had intelligence to share (which they have run out of), but not have had enough intelligence to have it incriminate themselves?

I think that they probably have made an evaluation of whether or not a person now in custody would really want to commit a terrorist act (note that they might not have yet, but really express a great desire to do so).

Combine this with the fact that the ones in custody likely were fighting against US troops (that's enough to get considered an enemy combatant), and it's unlikely that they'll be released.

As long as we're bending the rules, we might as well just shoot them. It saves a lot of trouble later on, because they can never tell what happened to them.

As much as I would like to agree with the article, I am more worried about a terrorist commiting a terrorist act outside of the walls of a prison that refused to hold him due to circumstantial evidence than one held in a prison on circumstantial evidence.
There is in fact a war going on, and such a situation merits adjustments to the judicial system
there is no war going on, no more of a war than that which has been going on for hundreds of years, get a clue

there is no war going on, no more of a war than that which has been going on for hundreds of years, get a clue

I would bet that Osama would beg to differ with you. He's said that we're at war, our President has said we're at war, so why is that "no war going on"?

Yep, the government is considering whether they should expend taxpayer money to build sparkly new prisons for people they have no evidence against so that they can keep them locked up for life:
(http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=XXJC4W15OEDDUCRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=7217367)

The Land of the Free indeed.... well, unless somebody suspects that maybe you might have been tangentally related to somebody else... maybe.

A question, how can people have had intelligence to share (which they have run out of), but not have had enough intelligence to have it incriminate themselves?
And these are American citizens? Hmmm. I rather doubt that. Talk about creating enough work to keep an army of Jonnie Cockrans gainfully employed for many years! Heh!

there is no war going on, no more of a war than that which has been going on for hundreds of years, get a clue
Hmmm........ Strange...... I wonder what all these articles and pictures of people shooting each other are. Must be some sort of tea party/sci-fi convention.