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I mean, how stupid can you be? Why do would any of you believe that one race is superior to any other? Jesus Christ, I heard one person once defending his white supremicism by saying that the other races were more subject to certain diseases(true) and so because of this, they were inferior and would be absorbed into the white race. (untrue.) Morons...I dislike racism to the extreme...

certain races are NOT more subject diseases.

Why?

Because people are stupid

....Racists are weak people, yes, I'll say it simply, weak-minded. The need to feel superior, a natural but unjustified reaction to being downsized, can be suppressed by stronger-minded people. Modesty and intelligence are what keeps the "commoners" from being utterly controlled by more charismatic figures....

..I personally find it cute that one race (especially white, for instance) can find itself completely superior to the other. Poor little things...I don't think I could stand being ignorant all day, god it must a hard on your head...

certain races are NOT more subject diseases.
Actually, yes they are. Blacks are more likely to have heart problems, sickel cell syndrome, and a load of other diseases...though this is mostly based on world-wide statistics. Even in the US, though, they do have a slightly higher risk. It's simply truth; doesn't make them inferior.

it must a hard on your head...
Hard on my head? (and I'm white) No.

Hard on a skin head? YES!

Actually, yes they are. Blacks are more likely to have heart problems, sickel cell syndrome, and a load of other diseases...though this is mostly based on world-wide statistics. Even in the US, though, they do have a slightly higher risk. It's simply truth; doesn't make them inferior.
Sure it does, just not mentally inferior.

Sure it does, just not mentally inferior.
Or inferior under the law; I guess you do have a point there.

Racism does exist, and it is reinforced daily in our society here in the U.S.. Not necessarily intentionally, but through our everyday associations with sexuality, athletic prowess and intellect. Just me offering these examples creates mental impressions for each of you reading this; kind of like not imagining the pink elephant, right?

Yes, racism exists, as a disease and a social weakness of the worst possible kind. Just look at the post regarding the "physical inferiority" of the races more subject to certain diseases. By definition, you are saying that one race is biologically superior to another in this physiological category. That makes about as much sense as saying blacks make better athletes due to muscle and bone structure.

There is a difference between perception and reality, folks. Suseptibility differences do NOT fall along a superiority-inferiority spectrum.

They are simply differences.

Hard on my head? (and I'm white) No.

Hard on a skin head? YES!

(I'm white too) Yes, maybe that's why their bald...

Surely the reason why Black Americans might have worse health is because of their generally poorer social conditions - longer working hours, worse food (as less money), more likely to live in cities - than anything to do with race

People fear things that are different.

Racism does exist, and it is reinforced daily in our society here in the U.S.. Not necessarily intentionally, but through our everyday associations with sexuality, athletic prowess and intellect. Just me offering these examples creates mental impressions for each of you reading this; kind of like not imagining the pink elephant, right?

Yes, racism exists, as a disease and a social weakness of the worst possible kind.

Oooh, well said...

Racism is hyper-evolved tribalism, nothing more.

There is a difference between perception and reality, folks. Suseptibility differences do NOT fall along a superiority-inferiority spectrum.
Windows is more susceptible to viruses than other popular operating systems. I think that makes it inferior.

Just think of why little children tease one another. It is just so a person feels like there the bigger one. There trying to assure there selves that there much better then a certain people. They'll do/say anything to make them sleep better at night. And we, the people who are against racism, can't do much about it. They only thing we can do is to not support racism, teach our children not to support racism and to never be racist. And sooner or later, it'll start making the racist beliefes grow weaker. But that might not happen because most of those against racism are still naive. My idea is naive but it is a realistic idea, unlike most people who think racism will just some day disapear and so will war and poverty.

Really, the best thing to do is laugh at a racist. If your good at intimidation and or debating, then just trying to go " Why are they inferior? How are we the best? Or is this something you do/say just so you can sleep better at night? "

Anyways, as long as there are still people out there against racism....then the racism will never get anymore annoying or bigger then a few text words over the internet. Which reminds me, most of these racists are just 11 year old kids trying to be annoying, or older people and or even younger ppl who do believe Whites or better or etc. But its funny that they hide behind a computer screen, saying there better then the world. How are they better when there wasting there life sitting on there asses saying there better when people have familys and jobs and happyness? And they live in some suck ass home/apartment and have a 28k connection thinking there better then a black guy?

Anyways, as long as there are still people out there against racism....then the racism will never get anymore annoying or bigger then a few text words over the internet. Which reminds me, most of these racists are just 11 year old kids trying to be annoying, or older people and or even younger ppl who do believe Whites or better or etc. But its funny that they hide behind a computer screen, saying there better then the world. How are they better when there wasting there life sitting on there asses saying there better when people have familys and jobs and happyness? And they live in some suck ass home/apartment and have a 28k connection thinking there better then a black guy?
Nice stereotypes. You're way better than a racist, and I commend you.

[QUOTE=Stan Smackey]Racism does exist, and it is reinforced daily in our society here in the U.S.. Not necessarily intentionally, but through our everyday associations with sexuality, athletic prowess and intellect. Just me offering these examples creates mental impressions for each of you reading this; kind of like not imagining the pink elephant, right?

Yes, racism exists, as a disease and a social weakness of the worst possible kind. Just look at the post regarding the "physical inferiority" of the races more subject to certain diseases. By definition, you are saying that one race is biologically superior to another in this physiological category. That makes about as much sense as saying blacks make better athletes due to muscle and bone structure.

There is a difference between perception and reality, folks. Suseptibility differences do NOT fall along a superiority-inferiority spectrum.

Black people have stronger muscles for running, but they cannot swim as well as white people. Is it a coincidence that the best distance runners and sprinters are black? Just look at Kenya for long distance runners and America for the sheer power of the sprinters, who are all black. However, there are no black swimmers challenging the dominance of the other races swimmers. This is not being racist, its a truth.

Actually, yes they are. Blacks are more likely to have heart problems, sickel cell syndrome, and a load of other diseases...though this is mostly based on world-wide statistics. Even in the US, though, they do have a slightly higher risk. It's simply truth; doesn't make them inferior.

AFAIK, genetic "racial" diseases are actually linked to populations, not races.

Black people have stronger muscles for running, but they cannot swim as well as white people. Is it a coincidence that the best distance runners and sprinters are black? Just look at Kenya for long distance runners and America for the sheer power of the sprinters, who are all black. Kenyans have 15% lighter leg bones.

I was quoting the disease stuff from some health news I read awhile ago; could be I was wrong. Still, treating them worse because of it is the kind of thing I'm getting at; it's stupid.

Racism is propagated by groups to give more power to themselves. In the past the demonising of a race was a common tool used by invaders and religions to undermine a populace. They would do this to improve their own powerbase with their own race by making them feel superior.

Example;
In 7th century Europe one of the major Christian churches would preach that religions that covered their heads were hiding horns. By doing this they start a trend which continues to pervade for centuries, a subconcious distrust of these races and religions passes on not just from religion but to the general colour of their skin.

There are 2 forms of Racism; a reactionary, fearful aversion that stems from the unknown, and the indoctrinated racism of history.

Immediate fear and aversion that forms racism can often be removed by familiarity and communication between the races.

Racist indoctrination, whether concious or subconcious, is only allowed to continue due to the actions of leaders. Whether nationalistic, tribalistic, religious, or historical, racism can be countered by rejecting the organisations that propagate the fear and hate.

Please note, the example I used was not a dig at Roman-Catholics, Christians, or any religion. I study theology and history for a living and this was the first thing I thought of.

It can be agreed that there is barely a group of people on earth that at some point has not discriminated against another group in some way.

-_- well anyways no I'm not a racist if my post made you think that.

Its pretty early here....and I didn't really read over what I said but my point was that racism is dumb and that people should try and stop it, and yes I was racist twards racism....but really if anything...only to those who go off with the Supremacist and Inferiority thing..so yes I contradicted myself. I guess in retrospects, were all racist whether you like it or not. Racism doesn't mean Whites better then Blacks or Nazis over the Jews. It is hatred twards another race and if you want to classify Racists as a race, then fine. Then I'm racist since I say bad stuff about racists. Well then again, whoever it was who replied to me again with a quote, your post confused me...and now this post is confusing so just don't mind me..I'll be going back to being a roleplaying loser.

Why does racism exist?

A reason - Not everyone subscribes to the idea of living in a multicultural society.

I mean, how stupid can you be? Why do would any of you believe that one race is superior to any other? Jesus Christ, I heard one person once defending his white supremicism by saying that the other races were more subject to certain diseases(true) and so because of this, they were inferior and would be absorbed into the white race. (untrue.) Morons...I dislike racism to the extreme...

I believe it was Eric Hoffa who said, "Deep and passionate hatred gives meaning and purpose to an otherwise empty existance." That is one of my "life affecting" quotes.

Put in the most simplistic terms, for many people, making their life better so it has a meaning or purpose requires too much physical / mental / emotional work. Simply hating someone, however, is easy, self gratifiying, and makes you feel superior. All great dictators started off giving the people someone to hate, because it's a cheap and easy way to make the lowest, and therefore broadest, part of society happy.

:headbang:

actually, some races are more vulnerable to certain diseases... a perfect example would be the Native Americans exposed to smallpox.

Anyway, I think every racist knows at heart that it's wrong to think and act upon the basis that a certain race is inferior to your own, but they do it becuase it benefits them. If people in the 1800's admitted that Africans were just as equal as everyone else, slavery would have been frowned upon. People shun races only if it benefits them.

Why does racism exist?

A reason - Not everyone subscribes to the idea of living in a multicultural society.

Perhaps, but that is confusing "race" (i.e., phenotype variation) with "culture" (a byproduct of upbringing---not dependent upon phenotype.)

For example, you may not want to live in a society that places a high value on individual gun ownership. Or that promotes the playing of loud music. Or that devalues individual work ethic.

The examples I provided have created a mental impression for each of you of the type of person associated with each category, yes?

The ironic part is that these categories are phenotype-independent; they could apply to any person or group of people regardless of appearance.

Do not confuse phenotype and culture; it is this melding of two distinct ideas that rests at the heart of racism.

Why does racism exist?

Because 'some' people do not wish to live in a country/city/neighbourhood where there are lots of 'other' people. They do not wish to live with them, because they do not like them. They do not like them for their own reasons - perhaps a group of 'others' beat you up, perhaps the 'others' are an economic burden, perhaps the 'others' speak their language and not the host country. You could go on and on about what pisses people off.

There is a reason.

I'm an equal opportunity bigot. I hate everyone equally. Black, Yellow, White, Red, Canadian, I hate 'em all. :mp5:

Don't come anywhere near me as I'm liable to swing at the drop of a hat.

I do like some women though. As nothing beats a dame.

Why does racism exist?

Because 'some' people do not wish to live in a country/city/neighbourhood where there are lots of 'other' people. They do not wish to live with them, because they do not like them. They do not like them for their own reasons - perhaps a group of 'others' beat you up, perhaps the 'others' are an economic burden, perhaps the 'others' speak their language and not the host country. You could go on and on about what pisses people off.

There is a reason.

*Sigh* I guess my earlier point on this was not clear. Maybe racism exists because racial ideology is easily-adopted and reluctantly-disposed.

Seerdon the examples you gave are not the cause of racism directly. A society which validates the view that 'other' groups are to be feared is to be blamed.

Your "beaten up" example reminds me of several incidents I have experienced. I travel a lot and as a consequence see some dangerous parts. I have been mugged 3 times in my life, once in Dehli by a pair of indian thugs, and twice in America by a gang of whites and on a different occasion by hispanic drug pushers (I think). None of these caused me to hate or fear Indians, Americans, Whites or Spanish speakers.

Now if I lived in a neighbourhood where this happened a fair amount it is likely there would be a core of racists trying to discriminate against anyone from these backgrounds.

By trying to understand people that are different we can realise that it is society that forms these prejudices and not 1 offf incidents.

[QUOTE=Pyschotika]Really, the best thing to do is laugh at a racist. /QUOTE]

I try to laugh at racists but racists like Kweisi Mfume and Jessie Jackson are hard to ignore.

Your "beaten up" example reminds me of several incidents I have experienced. I travel a lot and as a consequence see some dangerous parts. I have been mugged 3 times in my life, once in Dehli by a pair of indian thugs, and twice in America by a gang of whites and on a different occasion by hispanic drug pushers (I think). None of these caused me to hate or fear Indians, Americans, Whites or Spanish speakers.


Ok, but some people do hate and fear others as a result of such actions. The original poster asked why does racism exist. I gave 'a' reason, followed by a post with some real-world examples to elaborate.

And to Stan, I could care less about phenotypes, although Im sure its a valid concept. If you want to argue it, cheers, but I don't have the patience to dissect it and get into the mechanics.

"Maybe racism exists because racial ideology is easily-adopted and reluctantly-disposed."

Maybe. Maybe racism exists because someone just doesn't like Chinese people. I'm sure there are many reasons.

I always thought the American view of communism was interesting. I think most of the non-communist world sees it as a system which doesnt work, a good principle of equality but impossible to pull off in it's purest form. But when I talk to some Americans, it changes to outright rage, hate and paranoia. This obviously is state driven prejudice, but I was amazed at what a few decades of propaganda can do. I have to admit I haven't been to China or any other communist state but I assume it's similar there against Westerners or somesuch.

I think a lot of people are far more influenced by what their authorities tell (or do not tell) them than they care to admit.

Where I live there is currently a trend amongst the media to demonise Asylum seekers that come to our country to seek help and protection. As such, the term itself "Asylum Seeker" has become synonymous with "Illegal Immigrant" with a large proprotion of the populace fearing these people.

This has got to the degree now that I can go to a part of the country which has no ethnic diversity, and certainly no asylum seekers nearby, and yet hear people espousing the dangers to their way of life by letting them into the country.

People need to be less blinkered and realise that the majority of any race are just wanting to have security (socially, aswell as fundamentally) and respect from other people.

Yup I agree, I find mostly, racism happens in mostly non-diverse ethnic places. However it does vary.

Racism exist because people don't know and hate the person of another race for whatever reason stereotyping beliefs.

Sure it does, just not mentally inferior.
Not physically inferior either. IIRC the same thing that makes black people more vulnerable to sickelcel syndrome makes them extremely resistant to malaria.

I think racism exist because people need to 'know' they are better than someone else. Using easy to see things like skincolour, gender etc. makes it... well... easier. Together with fear of things that are different of course.
But no doubt one could wirte a book about this. People probably already have.

Not physically inferior either. IIRC the same thing that makes black people more vulnerable to sickelcel syndrome makes them extremely resistant to malaria.

I think racism exist because people need to 'know' they are better than someone else. Using easy to see things like skincolour, gender etc. makes it... well... easier. Together with fear of things that are different of course.
But no doubt one could wirte a book about this. People probably already have.
I didn't say it did. It makes them inferior in those particular categories.

Here's my take on racism. Before the modern era, a healthy fear (or at least an extremely cautious regard) of the unknown was a valuable survival trait. This manifests itself in today's society as racism. However, since racism is no longer necessary (after all, procreating is much more difficult than surviving now), we see that people who are not racist gain a distinct advantage in the economy (broader base for employees and customers). Thus, I think that we'll see the world continue to become more and more liberal.