NationStates Jolt Archive

Note: This isn't really about, say, gay marriage, plural marriage, etc... The examples chosen were simply the ones that popped into my head. It's about morality itself, or rather what people do in the name of morality.

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The rant:

Stop bloody well telling people who don't share your religious/moral outlook on things that have no effect on you what to do! If a pair of siblings, a pair of men, a pair of women, a group of three men, two women and a sheep, or some guy and a block of cheese want to get married or just have lots of sex together, and it's fully concensual (presiming sheep and cheese can give consent), stay the bloody hell out of it.

The problem with morality, is that most people feel the overwhelming urge to shove their particular brand of it down other people's throats. It's one thing if there is some form of actual abuse going on, but if nobody is getting hurt (S&M doesn't count), it's none of your damned business.

Forcing others to conform to your narrow-minded sensibilities is wrong. Would you like it if they did that to you? No? I thought not. Shut up, move on, and spend your time dealing with things that are actually problems. You know, ones where pain and suffering result. Like drunk driving. Or allowing any moron who wants one to go out an buy a gun, and then leave it lying around where their kid can get at it. Or the pain and suffering caused by small-minded intolerant fools who can't leave other people live their lives in peace.

Debating morality is fun. There's nothing wrong with trying to convince people that your moral code is the one that should be followed. The problem is when you try and force other people to follow it. It doesn't matter whether it's a political ideology, a sexual preferance, marriage views, cultural traditions or whatever.

Tolerance and respect for differances. Try 'em out some time. You may actually come to enjoy them. Chances are you've benefitted from other people being tolerant of you.

(This message has been brought to you by somebody who hasn't actually been on the receiving end of much of this stuff, but find it infuriating when other people are.)

Non-heterosexual relations make no sense at all. HAving sex with cheese? wtf

It's actually quite fun! :p Joking, relax.

I agree morality is very subjective and that people should concentrate on thoes who also follow theirs and their issues, not thoes who's ideas are different, as well as voilence and such which hurts others.

Non-heterosexual relations make no sense at all.


Speaking as a happily married man - neither do a lot of the hetrosexual ones I've noticed a lot of the time.

I would agree with you completely, almost.

So long as it doesn't effect you, I have no problem with it.

I do beleive though, that people have a duty of responsibility to society. If you are homosexual and there is a high risk of STD's, use protection, be sensible and responsible for yourself, and the burden that such diseases put on society.

To incestuous relationships, again be responsible, have civil unions ( I doubt many churches would marry you, not my issue or fault) for all I care. Just be responsible in realising the possible problems your children may have.

Civil Liberties are the greatest thing to grace our species since its beginning. The freedom to do what we like when we like - within reason. However they also bring with them responsibilities, you may only maintain such liberties if men and women respect themselves and each other. If this respect fails, then society as a whole degenerates.

We have to remember, that although many taboo's are intollerant and closed minded, some are there for a reason - even if enforced overly strictly.

Cussing out people who aren't even going to listen to you is almost as bad as shoving morality down another person's throat. Think of the audience who is actually going to pay attention and care.

I reccomend that instead of making a forum about it, going to the people that bother you and discussing it with them. You may actually change something. That is something that the morality blockheads seem to realize.

I being one of them.

Just something to chew on.

-R. S. of UC

Interesting. I'm just starting to learn Japanese and your nation's name means "Nation of cats".

Who? Me?

Who? Me?

No, I was talking about Neko no kuni. I don't know what your name means and it isn't in the dictionary I checked.

Interesting. I'm just starting to learn Japanese and your nation's name means "Nation of cats".

That or "Cat's Country". Either way.

Typical statement made by someone who doesn't appreciate that forceing morals upon people is for the better in most cases

"Yeahman, because I really hate paying taxes so the government can turn around and spend it on welfare recipents and war veterans just because its the moral thing to do. I mean who cares if the fought a war for us, or who cares if some kid doesn't get to eat tonight because their parents are idiots! we can abandon morals...and make the world a more care free place. I mean who cares about anything, like public transpotation, i have a licence quit subsidising the losers and shut ins that don't.And free heath care...ha! since noone cares about morals anymore you can pay for it yourself."

If we are to be a society we must force popular morals on everyone, otherwise people can and will get hurt by the non careing system that comes when people abandon morals.

Cussing out people who aren't even going to listen to you is almost as bad as shoving morality down another person's throat. Think of the audience who is actually going to pay attention and care.

I reccomend that instead of making a forum about it, going to the people that bother you and discussing it with them. You may actually change something. That is something that the morality blockheads seem to realize.

I being one of them.

1: Cussing? Ranting, yes. Cussing, no. Well, unless you consider "bloody" cussing. And I did prefence it with "the rant".
2: I usually do online. Almost none of them even pretend to listen.
3: I usually do in real life. Many pretend to listen, but then continue to make other people's life aggravating.

Honestly, the main reason I wrote it is that I just fealt I needed to say it. This way I can link to it in a sig or something. Infact, I think I will do that.

Cheese George! CHEESE!

Debating morality is fun. There's nothing wrong with trying to convince people that your moral code is the one that should be followed. The problem is when you try and force other people to follow it. It doesn't matter whether it's a political ideology, a sexual preferance, marriage views, cultural traditions or whatever.


Why shouldn't people try to force others to follow their moral code, if that's part of their moral code?

This thread Kinda reminds me of a joke.

The African village leader's daughter has given birth to a white child, and to the cheif's horror, he called quickly for the missionary who's the only white man in the village.

The Chief asks "DId you sleep with my daughter?" with a spear in his hand.

The Missionary Retorted wittily in fear of his life "No I didn't Chief, look out into the field, there's white sheeps and black sheeps, your son just so-happend to be born white."

The Chief thought for a while, then replied " Okay, If you don't tell, I won't punish."