NationStates Jolt Archive


Should True Love Wait?

Einsteinian Big-Heads
01-01-2005, 08:16
I know this will end up as a religion-bashing forum, but I reckons its a topic that is important to the adolecent people who (I assume) make up the majority of the Nation States Society, so it should probably be discussed.
Meaning
01-01-2005, 08:24
sex is physical, love is emotional. so yea sex is ok b/c its a animal/human need. We must take care of the physical so the emotional will soon follow. thats the best way i can explain it without religion and without offending anyones belifes, or so i hope thats what i did.
Johnny Wadd
01-01-2005, 08:28
The difference between true love and genital herpes is that genital herpes is forever.
Einsteinian Big-Heads
01-01-2005, 08:28
sex is physical, love is emotional. so yea sex is ok b/c its a animal/human need. We must take care of the physical so the emotional will soon follow. thats the best way i can explain it without religion and without offending anyones belifes, or so i hope thats what i did.

Sex shouldn't just be seen as a physical need, sex is an expression of love.
Ghargonia
01-01-2005, 08:29
It is my belief that love is not an emotion unique to humans -- we just like to think it is. I think that it is related to the fact that we, like many other animals, mate for life. Sometimes. Those other animals that mate for life experience something similar, or at least comparable to, human 'love', I think. So our version is more elaborate than their versions. So what? Most of what we do has been elevated to almost impractical levels of complexity anyway; but the core of it is there, in other life-mating animal species. If that is accurate, then love exists to motivate sex with a single mate.

Basically, if you're not religious then you have no business getting married in the religious sense anyway and it doesn't matter. And if you are religious, you should be following the code you've chosen to live by; if you aren't, maybe you're not as religious as you thought you are. Either way, to me it's all insignificant. See above for why.
Johnny Wadd
01-01-2005, 08:30
I know this will end up as a religion-bashing forum, but I reckons its a topic that is important to the adolecent people who (I assume) make up the majority of the Nation States Society, so it should probably be discussed.


Most teens on the internet aren't getting too much action anyway. Might as well wait. Heck, most attractive members of the opposite sex really don't get turned on by self-proclaimed anarchists, communists, or extremists. Fact is that these traits are a major turn-off. Call it the "Crazy Joe" syndrome.
Meaning
01-01-2005, 08:33
its been showen that the last thing a teenager think of when they hear the word "sex" is love. that is b/c there emotional levels have not catched up with there physical level. Older couples do not have sex but does that mean they do not love each other? my folks been together 30+ years after my brith 16 years ago they've totaly stoped sex ( I slepted with my mom until I was 9 so i know this as a fact) but does that mean they do not love each other? I don't think so there are other ways to express love with out sex, i think spooning and cuddleing is the best.
Johnny Wadd
01-01-2005, 08:34
One more point. I seriously doubt most teens know what true love is in the first place?? You can't even begin to experience true love till you're at least in you're late 20's.
Ilaty
01-01-2005, 08:35
it is, it's the ultimate expression of love, in fact i just had it today; and it was definately an expression of love, but even so, you shouldnt have to wait for marriage (i didn't) Marriage is just paperwork... you need a test drive before you buy the car, you need to try your partner out before marrying them... :fluffle:
Meaning
01-01-2005, 08:38
Most teens on the internet aren't getting too much action anyway. Might as well wait. Heck, most attractive members of the opposite sex really don't get turned on by self-proclaimed anarchists, communists, or extremists. Fact is that these traits are a major turn-off. Call it the "Crazy Joe" syndrome.


ur right however I've learned to turn off my "crazy joeness" in front of most people so i can laugh at fart jokes and tolet humor, however there is a part of me that knows i'm different and loves to think different, not being another sheep in the flock, but i can be when i need too. so in other words I've gotten pussy i can get more pussy and...... yea just wanted to clear that up.

ok another thing y should love have a limit? if girls are more emotionly evovled wouldn't they feel love sooner then 20 at in that case at anytime?


well i'm going to sleep night to all
Republican Australia
01-01-2005, 08:38
I am a youngin, only 15, i met a girl that i cant stand to not be with, whenever she isnt around I am thinking about her, being with her is enough to make me happy, i dont know if you could call that love, coz like u all say, i am too young to have a brain
Isselmere
01-01-2005, 08:44
Sex before marriage is the expected norm these days, and in all honesty sexual compatibility is an important part of marriage in any case so unless you know what your partner's desires, habits, and/or needs are, you can't really be certain you satisfy them. By the time you're married, it's too late to say, "Er, no thanks," without getting into a worse argument than you would've gotten into had you acted on your urges beforehand. That said, one shouldn't leap senselessly into sex; it should always be a considered choice, thinking of all the possible consequences (pregnancy, disease, and even death).

On that happy note, best wishes and keep your pecker up!
Johnny Wadd
01-01-2005, 08:48
I am a youngin, only 15, i met a girl that i cant stand to not be with, whenever she isnt around I am thinking about her, being with her is enough to make me happy, i dont know if you could call that love, coz like u all say, i am too young to have a brain

Just infatuation son. You do have a brain, but at that age it is a bit tough to control those raging hormones. Heck, I was a little monkey just like you are. The moie "Porky's" was an accurate description of my teen years. Trying to get some (desperatly)whereever I could.

True love is my wife. Waited for me a total of 5 years when I was a POW in Vietnam. She stayed faithful and truely loved me. Knowing she was at home waiting for me, helped when I was being tortured. After my team was overrun by the VC, and all of our indiginous allies had been beheaded, we were beat severly. After waking up in a cage that was too small to sit and too small to stand (for 2 months) I really came to realize what true love meant. If I hadn't had my wife and little man at home, I would have died.
Johnny Wadd
01-01-2005, 08:50
On that happy note, best wishes and keep your pecker up!


Haha, don't think that is a problem at their age! ;)

Heck I hadn't had an erection for almost 5 years in my younger days.
Republican Australia
01-01-2005, 08:52
Just infatuation son. You do have a brain, but at that age it is a bit tough to control those raging hormones. Heck, I was a little monkey just like you are. The moie "Porky's" was an accurate description of my teen years. Trying to get some (desperatly)whereever I could.

True love is my wife. Waited for me a total of 5 years when I was a POW in Vietnam. She stayed faithful and truely loved me. Knowing she was at home waiting for me, helped when I was being tortured. After my team was overrun by the VC, and all of our indiginous allies had been beheaded, we were beat severly. After waking up in a cage that was too small to sit and too small to stand (for 2 months) I really came to realize what true love meant. If I hadn't had my wife and little man at home, I would have died.

I am not trying to get some desperately , though. I didnt think of anyone this way before, but your probably right, ur the oldie! I also must thank you for your service in Vietnam.
Alomogordo
01-01-2005, 09:05
It is my belief that love is not an emotion unique to humans -- we just like to think it is. I think that it is related to the fact that we, like many other animals, mate for life. Sometimes. Those other animals that mate for life experience something similar, or at least comparable to, human 'love', I think. So our version is more elaborate than their versions. So what? Most of what we do has been elevated to almost impractical levels of complexity anyway; but the core of it is there, in other life-mating animal species. If that is accurate, then love exists to motivate sex with a single mate.

Basically, if you're not religious then you have no business getting married in the religious sense anyway and it doesn't matter. And if you are religious, you should be following the code you've chosen to live by; if you aren't, maybe you're not as religious as you thought you are. Either way, to me it's all insignificant. See above for why.
It is my belief that the love is not a unique emotion to the human beings -- as soon as we have taste to we thought that it is. I think that he is related to the fact that we, like many other animals, companion for the life. Sometimes. Those other animals that connect for the experience of the somewhat similar life, or at least comparable to, 'love' humans; I think. Our version so more is elaborated than its versions. So what? Most of which we do it has risen at the almost impractical levels of the complexity anyway; but the base of her is there, in the other species life-connection animal. If that is exact, later the love exists to motivate sex with a single companion. Basically, if then you're nonreligious you do not have any business anyway obtaining married in the religious sense and they matter of doesn't. And if you are religious, you must follow the code you've chosen to live close; perhaps if you aren't, you're as religious as you thought you you are. Any way, to me it's all insignificant one. See above for why.
Johnny Wadd
01-01-2005, 09:07
You're welcome! "De Oppresso Liber"
Ghargonia
01-01-2005, 09:25
It is my belief that the love is not a unique emotion to the human beings -- as soon as we have taste to we thought that it is. I think that he is related to the fact that we, like many other animals, companion for the life. Sometimes. Those other animals that connect for the experience of the somewhat similar life, or at least comparable to, 'love' humans; I think. Our version so more is elaborated than its versions. So what? Most of which we do it has risen at the almost impractical levels of the complexity anyway; but the base of her is there, in the other species life-connection animal. If that is exact, later the love exists to motivate sex with a single companion. Basically, if then you're nonreligious you do not have any business anyway obtaining married in the religious sense and they matter of doesn't. And if you are religious, you must follow the code you've chosen to live close; perhaps if you aren't, you're as religious as you thought you you are. Any way, to me it's all insignificant one. See above for why.

I've been trying to think of a reason why you just took my post and re-wrote it to make even less sense than it did in the first place, but I can't come up with anything. So I give up; what's going on?
Lerdodia
01-01-2005, 09:38
i agree with whoever it was who said that marriage is paperwork.

the times they are a changin folks.

that being said, i think it's important to distinguish between mattress-hopping and pre-marital sex. it's one thing to practice safer sex with a select number of partners without any threat of long term committment but it's completely irresponsible and downright dangerous to knock boots recreationally with anything that flows your way.

and don't even get me started on true love... oi!