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Yes or no?

Why?

Either that or fund cloning research so they can give clones of Billy Beane to every team :p

Yes or no?
Yo, Dude. WTF???

a bussiness should be allowed its employees what ever it wants

No. The Yankees made $315 million dollars in revenue last year. Due to revenue sharing and luxury tax, they just gave $85 million of that away. Meaning that they kept only 73% of the money that they earned. No, you build winning teams buy spending what you want. Plus, whenever the Yankees go on the road, they bring an extra 3,000 people on average to games. Most small market teams don't even TRY to field a good team. They just hang on to what they can and wait for the Yankees to send them a check.

a bussiness should be allowed its employees what ever it wants

the MLB is a private organization and it can impose what rules it needs. spending is getting out of control and I think it's devaluing the game. teams like new york (who is my favorite team, keep in mind) and boston just buy up anything they can.

a bussiness should be allowed its employees what ever it wants


Not if there are salary arbitration rules that then propogate the salaries to other companies within a structure that forces all of the related businessess to staff from the same pool of employees.

Either that or fund cloning research so they can give clones of Billy Beane to every team :p
Billy Beane's in a little bit of a squeeze with only one of the 'big 3' left in Oakland. So much for Moneyball.

Salary caps are useless. They don't accomplish anything except make the team owners unjustly richer.

the MLB is a private organization and it can impose what rules it needs. spending is getting out of control and I think it's devaluing the game. teams like new york (who is my favorite team, keep in mind) and boston just buy up anything they can.
Yes, and New York just gave 27% of its revenue to lesser market team. Look, Steinbrenner is an entrepenneur. He bought a losing team in 1973 for $9 million, renovated Yankee Stadium, spent some money on good players, and within five years had himself a World Series.

Billy Beane's in a little bit of a squeeze with only one of the 'big 3' left in Oakland. So much for Moneyball.

Billy Beane made some great movies. They all had free agency soon, why not get something for them? He got 5 above average to great prospects.

If they go to free agency, they get a draft pick (assuming the A's don't sign them because they cheap). Now they get a few prospects who are very very good. Even if they keep then in the minors and then trade them away for someone else, it's a good deal.


And no, a floor is needed before a cap in my opinion.

Billy Beane's in a little bit of a squeeze with only one of the 'big 3' left in Oakland. So much for Moneyball.
Well, what happened exactly was moneyball - he couldn't afford to keep them on the $69 million payroll so he traded them away. Whether his 2nd generation turns out to be as successful as his first remains to be seen.

While some people against the salary cap like to point out teams like the Florida Marlins as examples that small-market teams can win, those teams are the exception rather than the rule.

If you look, the top three teams in terms of payroll all made the playoffs - the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels. The 6th-ranked Dodgers did, as did the 8th-ranked Braves and 9th-ranked Cardinals. Houston made it at 12th, and Minnesota was the only team in the bottom half to make it - at 19th.

Steinbrenner and his co-owners spend their own personal fortunes to get free agents for the Yankees. There are owner groups far richer than the Yankees, yet none of them are willing to stake their own fortunes.

Steinbrenner even said that the only reason he opposed the latest luxury tax is because it was being put into the pockets of the small market owners and not directly towards payrolls.

He understands that if teams like the Royals and As do well, he makes more money because the games are more interesting. But, he knows that the current system doesn't do this.

Being a Mets fan, I'd love to see Wilpon spend like that. He has a larger fortune and some smart spending (get his friggin kid away from the team) would pay of greatly.

Oh, and Billie Bean is far over rated and a whiner. He inherited a minor league system that produced the most over powering rotation since Koufax-Snyder-Drysdale and the likes of Jason Giambi(steroid issues aside) and Miguel Tejada and let them all get away. He bragged about being able to win a World Series with a small budget, but complained when the BoSox sent his team home because they had such a higher payroll. Screw him and his on base percentage.