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What do you think of Canada?

PIcaRDMPCia
31-12-2004, 22:30
For most of my life, I didn't know what to think about our neighbor to the north, so I just didn't form an opinion; Canada was simply Canada, and that's it.
However, recent events have compelled me to learn more about Canada, and everything I read just makes me like Canada more and more. It's a wonderful country, and any Canadian I meet is good in my eyes, till they show they're not, of course, if they aren't. So what do you all think of Canada?
La Terra di Liberta
31-12-2004, 22:31
It Kicks Ass!!!!!!!!
Word Games
31-12-2004, 22:34
[QUOTE=PIcaRDMPCia]
However, recent events have compelled me to learn more about Canada, and everything I read just makes me like Canada more and more. QUOTE]

Are you in the mood to elaborate? :fluffle:
Stroudiztan
31-12-2004, 22:35
Canada's Really Big. - Arrogant Worms.
Dobbs Town
31-12-2004, 22:38
It's still just as good as it was the last time this thread topic came up...

LOL

Maybe better!
PIcaRDMPCia
31-12-2004, 22:39
[QUOTE=PIcaRDMPCia]
However, recent events have compelled me to learn more about Canada, and everything I read just makes me like Canada more and more. QUOTE]

Are you in the mood to elaborate? :fluffle:
Well...mainly it's the political spectrum, the fact that it has much lower rates of all types of crime, the free health care for all...and so on and so forth. If it weren't for the fact that I'm going into politics to make the US more like Canada, I'd pack up and move to Canada.
And that is the first time I've been fluffled at these forums.
-Verbatim-
31-12-2004, 22:41
I live in Canada...http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/banana.gif
Word Games
31-12-2004, 22:43
Well...mainly it's the political spectrum, the fact that it has much lower rates of all types of crime, the free health care for all...and so on and so forth. If it weren't for the fact that I'm going into politics to make the US more like Canada, I'd pack up and move to Canada.
And that is the first time I've been fluffled at these forums.

I made it a resolution.. You can come on over anytime you get tired of trying to fix the US...
Word Games
31-12-2004, 22:44
I live in Canada...http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/banana.gif...

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where?
Dobbs Town
31-12-2004, 22:47
Don't think of packing up and moving to Canada like you're going away, think of it as coming home.

The porch lights are on. There's hash brownies on the counter. There are no guns in the house. Just hang your coat, pull up a chair and meet your neighbours.

Seeya soon.

DT.
Copiosa Scotia
31-12-2004, 22:51
They have a lot of dogsled racing, right?
-Verbatim-
31-12-2004, 22:51
...

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where?
Ontario.http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/banana.gif
-Verbatim-
31-12-2004, 22:52
They have a lot of dogsled racing, right?
Not that I know of...http://67.18.37.16/html/emoticons/unsure.gif
Dobbs Town
31-12-2004, 22:54
They have a lot of dogsled racing, right?

Wrong! They're Arctic-adapted Pigmy Marmoset sleds! The dogs ride snowmobiles these days, much to the consternation of the Pigmy Marmosets.

Bloody favourtism!
PIcaRDMPCia
31-12-2004, 22:56
There is one other thing keeping me from Canada...my girlfriend, whom I love very dearly. We're not going to be able to marry for another few years, and I want to at least be married to her before anything else happens.
But what do you mean by hash brownies? Are they brownies laced with marijuana? Or did you mean hash browns? ;)
Word Games
31-12-2004, 22:57
Ontario.http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/banana.gif

North of Barrie?
-Verbatim-
31-12-2004, 23:01
North of Barrie?
Yeah.
Uzuum
31-12-2004, 23:03
They have a lot of dogsled racing, right?

Remarkably, no. Dogsledding is more a festival thing, done as a competition between people to see who can endure the winter the best and has the best dogs, sled and dog sleeding ability. And I only ever saw it in a small town. . . So. . . Not very common.

There is one other thing keeping me from Canada...my girlfriend, whom I love very dearly. We're not going to be able to marry for another few years, and I want to at least be married to her before anything else happens.
But what do you mean by hash brownies? Are they brownies laced with marijuana? Or did you mean hash browns? ;)

Hash baked into brownies. Knock you right out it will. . . Happened to someone I know. He was just lucky he got off the stairs before he fell down and hit the floor.
Word Games
31-12-2004, 23:04
Yeah.


Oooh. South of North Bay?
Grantioch
31-12-2004, 23:12
I love the "North of Barrie?" "South of North Bay?"
Who hails from Waterloo region?

Anyways. Don't get too mushy about "Free health care for all!", most Canadians would tell you it's broken. While there's differences of opinion on how to fix it (there's no debate, it gets shut down very quickly by one person shouting out "They're going to scrap it!" or "They're going to make us the next State!"), it's general knowledge now that we have a vast shortage of doctors (except in heavily urban areas, where business is good), long waiting lists for specialized care, and gradually services (like optimetry and dentistry) are losing their federal/provincial coverage.

Naturally, those are the only two areas that concern me.... I haven't seen my doctor in... six? Seven years? But I see my dentist every couple of months, had my wisdom teeth out six months ago and my damned eyes won't fix themselves :\

Canada's a great place to live. The odd thing is, now I haven't lived in the US at all but I've visited, just like I've visited Toronto and Ottawa.... it's not that different.

Unless you get hurt or something.
Mirkai
31-12-2004, 23:18
For most of my life, I didn't know what to think about our neighbor to the north, so I just didn't form an opinion; Canada was simply Canada, and that's it.
However, recent events have compelled me to learn more about Canada, and everything I read just makes me like Canada more and more. It's a wonderful country, and any Canadian I meet is good in my eyes, till they show they're not, of course, if they aren't. So what do you all think of Canada?

Being Canadian myself, I thank you for the compliment to my country. It is a wonderful place to live in my opinion, and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I'm very proud of my country, its natural beauty, and its dedication to the equality of its people, and if neccessary I'd defend it with my life.
Communistic Soviets
31-12-2004, 23:24
Go Canada :D
Stephistan
31-12-2004, 23:30
Not to take away from any other Canadians on the forum, but I may possibly be the proudest Canadian on this forum! I freaking love this country! I look around at the world and thank my lucky stars with every breath that I take that I was so lucky to be born a Canadian. My family goes back to before Confederation. There is nothing I would not do for this country. True north strong and very f*cking free!

I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. (btw)

Canadian Facts (some are outdated) (http://www3.sympatico.ca/taniah/Canada/)

I probably could of found a better site. However it gives a small overview of this fabulous country!
Stephistan
31-12-2004, 23:50
http://www.stephaniesworld.com/Canadarocks.gif

...And

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/beaver1.jpg

says, don't forget it! ..*LOL* :D
Yugoamerica
01-01-2005, 00:16
Hey, mine goes back to colonial times too! Actually, way back, to the war of 1812, of which my ancestor commanded 1000 canadians against 4000 americans and won! Charles de Salaberry, Battle of Chateauguay. look it up!
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:18
Hey, mine goes back to colonial times too! Actually, way back, to the war of 1812, of which my ancestor commanded 1000 canadians against 4000 americans and won! Charles de Salaberry, Battle of Chateauguay. look it up!

F*cking A dude! I salute you! :)

Chateaguay? Montreal?
Yugoamerica
01-01-2005, 00:20
Bout 500 miles south of, i think.
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:20
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lol
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:21
Bout 500 miles south of, i think.

Yeah, they have that huge bridge to cross over from MTL. Right after the Indian reserve. I know it. :)
Yugoamerica
01-01-2005, 00:23
but i think you meant where do a live now, Coquitlam, B.C., a city in the Lower Mainland. (basically greater vancouver)
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:26
I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. (btw)
Wow, I live near Stephistan.
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:27
Oooh. South of North Bay?
Why? Where do you live?
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:27
Wow, I live near Stephistan.

Kewlness! Every one should! *LOL* ;)
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:28
Why? Where do you live?

Just a wee bit west of Sudbury
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:30
Just a wee bit west of Sudbury

Can I have a nickle? Pleeease! Hahah!
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:31
Can I have a nickle? Pleeease! Hahah!
lol!
Yugoamerica
01-01-2005, 00:32
West Coast BABY! *Does impression of rapper*

anywho, vancouver rocks,. Just like all of canada, except halifax, i woulnt be caught dead in that hell hole. It's like Chicago for Canada! :headbang:
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:35
I'm a little Anti-Alberta... but.. Mostly just a sibling thing, I still love them, just wish they would stand up and walk straight..lol :P
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:35
Can I have a nickle? Pleeease! Hahah!


I can give you this nice shiney nickel

Nice shiney nickel.. watch the nickel.. the nickel..

*hypnotizes Steph*

You are under my control.. show me the list
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:37
I can give you this nice shiney nickel

Nice shiney nickel.. watch the nickel.. the nickel..

*hypnotizes Steph*

You are under my control.. show me the list

My husband's name is Michael, we expect that nickle to be shiny and bright! LMAO! :D

EDIT: Now my husband is saying it's suppose to be "shiny and new" there goes the neighbourhood..lol
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:38
Yes, show us the list.
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:38
My husband's name is Michael, we expect that nickle to be shiny and bright! LMAO! :D

the list, show me the list...

show me the list or the nickel gets it..
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:39
Ok, I admit I'm not always on top of things.. what list? :confused:
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:41
Ok, I admit I'm not always on top of things.. what list? :confused:
Don't pretend you don't know. Show us the list!
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:41
Ok, I admit I'm not always on top of things.. what list? :confused:

See THE LIST

<Snipped from page one

There's a LIST!

A kinda Naughty and Nice list

Boy I'd pay to see that list..

<sniped from Moderation

Yes, SG, you can get into trouble for that.

As far as why TFT wasn't deleted, this confusion is my fault, and for that I appologize.

She was on the list to be deleted, but due to some confusion wasn't dealt with immediately. I then informed her that she had been forum banned for a week as that was the latest note that I had in front of me (I wasn't looking at the list for deletion as I thought that list was already dealt with and she was still alive).

She has been deleted, and I do applogize for the confusion that I've caused.
Queensland Ontario
01-01-2005, 00:42
Unless you get hurt or something.

Free heathcare is the keyword here. Are the hospital costs in the united states not astronomical ? And it may take a bit longer to get the heathcare you want up here, but you won't have to mortgage your house for it.

Canada is the greatest because being Canadian isn't simply about living in a great nation; being Canadian is about being part of a great nation.

Canada is the people who live here.
Yugoamerica
01-01-2005, 00:43
Ugh crappy spy movies alll over again...

I'm also anti-alberta. "All that comes out of alberta is steers and queers"
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:43
Don't pretend you don't know. Show us the list!

Okay, but what if you're on it? Do I still get my nickle from Sudbury.. Oh nevermind, you're not even the nickle guy..lol :p
PIcaRDMPCia
01-01-2005, 00:45
You people hijacked my thread, eh? ^_~
But seriously, more opinions from other people, please.
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:45
Okay, but what if you're on it? Do I still get my nickle from Sudbury.. Oh nevermind, you're not even the nickle guy..lol :p

I will send you a Nickel or if you prefer some nickel, I work at a place that makes it (well extracts it from the ground) Nobody actually MAKES it..
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:46
See THE LIST

<Snipped from page one

There's a LIST!

A kinda Naughty and Nice list

Boy I'd pay to see that list..

<sniped from Moderation

Yes, SG, you can get into trouble for that.

As far as why TFT wasn't deleted, this confusion is my fault, and for that I appologize.

She was on the list to be deleted, but due to some confusion wasn't dealt with immediately. I then informed her that she had been forum banned for a week as that was the latest note that I had in front of me (I wasn't looking at the list for deletion as I thought that list was already dealt with and she was still alive).

She has been deleted, and I do applogize for the confusion that I've caused.

Oh THAT list... hehe, well I quit being a mod over a month ago.. I don't have access to the list any more. But they let me keep this nifty logo! :cool:
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:46
You people hijacked my thread, eh? ^_~
But seriously, more opinions from other people, please.

Canadians hijacked your thread. What more could you ask for? LOL
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:47
You people hijacked my thread, eh? ^_~
We are taking this thread to Canada!
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:48
Oh THAT list... hehe, well I quit being a mod over a month ago.. I don't have access to the list any more. But they let me keep this nifty logo! :cool:

You must have seen it?
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:49
You people hijacked my thread, eh? ^_~
We are taking this thread to Canada!

I'll get the top if you take the bottom, I suggest we move it before it gets too heavy..lol
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:51
You must have seen it?

Oh yes, I've seen it.. I have indeed seen the list! ;)
Armandian Cheese
01-01-2005, 00:52
Canada's healthcare system doesn't work (waiting times are astronomical, 90% of new medications come from US), their military is in shambles, drug use is prevalent, the age of consent is 14 (So a 14 year old can have sex with an 80 year old, and it's not considered pedophilia), morality and religion are at an all time low, and their main hobby seems to be bashing the US, despite the fact that America basically fuels the Canadian economy and is Canada's only protection.
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:52
I'll get the top if you take the bottom, I suggest we move it before it gets too heavy..lol

Here, use this dolly.. The list, who is on the list?
Auman
01-01-2005, 00:53
Im currently in California, Im a British Columbia native. I love Canada. Its been my home for 19 years. Even though, as a Canadian citizen, I love the country there are some down sides to living there.

First of all, my fiancee isn't there. Im visiting her for christmas and the new years currently. Secondly, the prices of everything down here in the US are cheap! I can buy 30 cans of beer for 16 dollars AT THE GROCERY STORE. As a man who enjoys alchohol I can say thats pretty awesome, and with 30 beers for 16 bucks, who cares if the percentage is lower? Well actually, other than that...uhm, thats all I like about the US :p
Word Games
01-01-2005, 00:53
Oh yes, I've seen it.. I have indeed seen the list! ;)

Are there and W's on that list?
Armandian Cheese
01-01-2005, 00:54
The reason US products are cheaper is because the government tends to butt out of business affairs and let the free market take course.
Queensland Ontario
01-01-2005, 00:54
Ugh crappy spy movies alll over again...

I'm also anti-alberta. "All that comes out of alberta is steers and queers"

Why are you anti alberta ? I'm a member of the liberal party and i don't hate Alberta at all.
-Verbatim-
01-01-2005, 00:54
I'll get the top if you take the bottom, I suggest we move it before it gets too heavy..lol
Deal!

*Grabs the bottom of the thread and starts moving it towards Canada...*
C-anadia
01-01-2005, 00:58
but i think you meant where do a live now, Coquitlam, B.C., a city in the Lower Mainland. (basically greater vancouver) No foolin! I live in Coquitlam too........Eh.
PIcaRDMPCia
01-01-2005, 00:58
Canada's healthcare system doesn't work (waiting times are astronomical, 90% of new medications come from US), their military is in shambles, drug use is prevalent, the age of consent is 14 (So a 14 year old can have sex with an 80 year old, and it's not considered pedophilia), morality and religion are at an all time low, and their main hobby seems to be bashing the US, despite the fact that America basically fuels the Canadian economy and is Canada's only protection.
So what if religion is at an all-time low? Is that necessarily a bad thing? And what about morality? Who defines that? Let me guess; you see homosexuality as immoral, don't you? Please...
And the age of consent is the age of consent; that's determined by the law of the country, not you.
Sources for the healthcare problems, please.
Drug use is also prevelant in the US, only we call them beer and cigarettes.
If they want to bash the US, so what? We deserve it for electing a moron like Bush.
Canada is a wonderful country; you should be ashamed for disliking it, I think.
Stephistan
01-01-2005, 00:59
Canada's healthcare system doesn't work (waiting times are astronomical, 90% of new medications come from US), their military is in shambles, drug use is prevalent, the age of consent is 14 (So a 14 year old can have sex with an 80 year old, and it's not considered pedophilia), morality and religion are at an all time low, and their main hobby seems to be bashing the US, despite the fact that America basically fuels the Canadian economy and is Canada's only protection.

Another jealous American. I wish you could have it as good as we do.. I'm sorry, it's not our fault you're not Canadian. We all know the only people who complain about Canada are those of you who wish you lived here. It's okay, maybe one day your country will be as kewl as Canada. That's about the best advice I can give you. Keep the faith, it might happen for you too. My thoughts are with you.
Auman
01-01-2005, 01:03
Canada's healthcare system doesn't work (waiting times are astronomical, 90% of new medications come from US), their military is in shambles, drug use is prevalent, the age of consent is 14 (So a 14 year old can have sex with an 80 year old, and it's not considered pedophilia), morality and religion are at an all time low, and their main hobby seems to be bashing the US, despite the fact that America basically fuels the Canadian economy and is Canada's only protection.

I wonder where you are getting your information bucko. American citizens were coming upto Canada to get their flu medication, I'll note there was no waiting time. I had to get a series of blood tests done, when I was told to do that I got it all done within 30 minutes. Drug use, i.e. the use of Marijuana is not a problem in my opinion compared to alchohol abuse, which is responsible for more mayhem than a little pot >=\. The age of consent is 14 yes, but there is still a little thing called statitory rape. Morality and religion are just as prevalent in Canada than they are in the US, I myself am moral. America produces luxury items for Canada where as Canada, a major producer of raw materials provides the United States with the necessities they need to produce these items.

Canada is a major supplier of electricity to the United States as well. And though I may be an immoral, drug using, pedophile that is obviously not baptised. I can say at least that even though there are people like you out there I still love my friends and family in the US, except you.
Auman
01-01-2005, 01:06
No foolin! I live in Coquitlam too........Eh.


I live in Coquitlam too, right by Maillardville...there are alot of people from Coquitlam on NS :P
Zeppistan
01-01-2005, 01:15
Wow, I live near Stephistan.


Kewlness! Every one should! *LOL* ;)


Gee... I live near Stephistan too! Woohoo!
South Muskoka
01-01-2005, 01:16
Canada's healthcare system doesn't work (waiting times are astronomical, 90% of new medications come from US), their military is in shambles, drug use is prevalent, the age of consent is 14 (So a 14 year old can have sex with an 80 year old, and it's not considered pedophilia), morality and religion are at an all time low, and their main hobby seems to be bashing the US, despite the fact that America basically fuels the Canadian economy and is Canada's only protection.


The waiting times are worth not having to take a second job to set a broken leg.... Where are Americans getting their flu shots from???.... Yes our military sucks.... Drug use is also prevalent in the U.S.(at least I don't have to worry about getting shot while I buy my drugs)... Age of consent is NOT 14, if a 14 has sexual relations with an 80 year old, that is against the law... morality and religion are at an all time low in the US as well.... And for the record, in the war of 1812 We burned down HALF THE F*CKING WHITE HOUSE... Learn to check the facts first Yankee..........
Queensland Ontario
01-01-2005, 01:20
Canada's healthcare system doesn't work (waiting times are astronomical, 90% of new medications come from US), their military is in shambles, drug use is prevalent, the age of consent is 14 (So a 14 year old can have sex with an 80 year old, and it's not considered pedophilia), morality and religion are at an all time low, and their main hobby seems to be bashing the US, despite the fact that America basically fuels the Canadian economy and is Canada's only protection.

Canada’s heath care system works in the sense that you won't have to die because you can't afford an operation. Seriously it may take a bit more time but you can get anything you need done here in Canada for free. Medication is more effective in Canada because the government prevents price gouging so people can actually afford medication.

The Canadian military is at just the right size considering we meet our NATO obligations; as well we are not at war at the moment.

"Drug use is prevalent" - So? People use Marijuana recreationally; smoking pot is a victimless crime, an issue between parents and children.

Yes the age of consent is 14, but any girl who would have intercourse with an adult at the age of 14 would do so against any law, because they are obviously not mature enough to make the distinction between what is normal and what is not normal.

Actually according to stats-Can only 1 in 30 Canadians don't belong to any religious affiliation, and why would you say morality is at an all time low, when crime is also at an all-time low.

American media has saturated Canadian television, and from what is portrayed on television compared to the lives we Canadians live, Americans don't look all that great, although I do realize that many Americans are very decent people.

As for Canadian protection......Canada isn't a very strategic move for anyone, if anything it’s in the Americans best interests to have a friend sharing their boarder. Canadian economy fuels Canadian economy, we export to the US far more than we import.

Know what you’re talking about next time jack.
Queensland Ontario
01-01-2005, 01:21
LOL we all carve this guy eh
Quinntonia
01-01-2005, 01:29
Well, I am a Saskatchewan borne prairie boy! Home of Candian Socialism, place where Health Care and the ATM machine come from. Now, I go to school in Alberta, Edmonton actually, whose motto should be, our hockey team used to be really good in the eighties....honest!
For all of the anti-Alberta sentiment, I really understand your position. The east controlls national policy, the federal agenda, and dsitribution of equalisation payments, that's enough to make anyone cranky! I mean, regional disparity is one of the biggest problems facing Canada today, from Quebec Seperatists to Truduae flipping the bird to a crowd of representatives that included relatives of mine. That is the government that we see.
As for Canada being immoral, joining the ultra-left wing liberal nations like Amsterdam in recognising same-sex marriage, and having a court literally re-write the Constitution in order to impose a highly unpopular set of morality on the majority is incredible! Could you imagine an American president doing that?! There would be revolution!
I will fight and die to protect my nation, and I will fight and die to protect the rights of homosexuals to be homosexuals, but I do think it it is immoral.
Will you fight and die to protect my right to beleive that this act is immoral? Or, like most NSers will I just start getting called a bigot or even a nazi?
I love my country, and I used to live fifteen minutes from USA, and I wouldn't wish that country on anyone. I think Bush is an idiot, I do not support the war in Iraq and though I thought Bowling for Columbine was great, Farenheit 911 was pretty sad. I knew Bush was an idiot already, but that kind of biased filmaking almost changed my mind. I voted for tyhe Conservative Party, and my MP is in Ukraine safe-gaurding democracy without the use of force.
We have problems, that is true, what country doesn't? We have only 30 million people spread over the second largest nation in the world! We have a representation-by-population election system that marginalises regions like the west and the maritimes, we have two other cultures woking towards self-government in the form of the French in the east and the Natives in the North. But, I am writing this wearing a T-Shirt from a box of Canadian beer with a Maple Leaf on it, and I am almost moved to tears with pride knowing that I live in a ntion that we can even discuss this issues without being shot.
Some are free to be gay without ebding up stoned to death, others are able to speak the Word of God without ending up political prisoners.

God Keep Our Land, Glorious and Free!

WWJD
Amen.
Gatren
01-01-2005, 01:33
Canada's healthcare system doesn't work (waiting times are astronomical
As opposed to waiting times in the US which are astronomical AND expensive. Unless you have the cash and they they are somewhat fast and just cost the soul of a small child.

90% of new medications come from US
and? Why does it matter where the medication comes from, as long as someone gets it, but if you want to play that card, a shortage of flu shots have caused Americans to come to Canada for two years now.

their military is in shambles
Actually I think it's amusing how easy it is for people to over estimate a countries military. Bigger does not always equate to better. A smaller, and better trained army is whats key. But that's besides the point, I think Canada is a country of peace, not war, a fact I'm proud of.

drug use is prevalent
Compared to what, the United States? Please the so called war against drug doesn't stop anyone in the end. You know as well as I do that it boils down to personal choice.

the age of consent is 14 (So a 14 year old can have sex with an 80 year old, and it's not considered pedophilia)
Saw that one coming, you have to love these people who do no research and who make assumptions. In one province the age a girl can be legally married is 14. That still makes sex outside marriage pedophilia.

morality and religion are at an all time low
This was a good one, first you can't judge morality, there is no morality scale. Everyone has different views. What one person calls morale another might not so your claim is in fact an opinion. Also Religion is decreasing and being replaced by spirituality. Which I'm sure my just gnaw at you.

and their main hobby seems to be bashing the US
Only the administration, which if you read the paper or watch TV is not restricted just to Canada. Or any American who bashes first.

despite the fact that America basically fuels the Canadian economy You really might want to pull your head out of the sand. It works both ways. The amount of trade between our two countries is tremendous, if you think only Canada would suffer you are so sadly mistaken.

And for protection, if the time ever came that we needed protection from someone I'm sure we could find plenty from the international community.

The tiniest bit of research could of stopped you from making that post. But it didn't. Luckily I know enough not to judge a book by it's cover, and not your whole population feels this way. No matter what you say and no matter how you think we feel.

For the record I live in Vancouver, right downtown in Coal Harbour
Traegen
02-01-2005, 22:43
Age of Consent: (Taken from the Library of Parliment)
The Criminal Code does not now criminalize consensual sexual activity with or between persons 14 or over, unless it takes place in a relationship of trust or dependency, in which case sexual activity with persons over 14 but under 18 can constitute an offence, notwithstanding their consent. Even consensual activity with those under 14 but over 12 may not be an offence if the accused is under 16 and less than two years older than the complainant.

What I remember from law class is that 14 year olds can have sex but not with someone over 18.

Our healthcare system may have problems but it is better than the alternative. And our health system actually costs less per capita than it does in the the US.

For the record I live in Toronto (have my whole life except for school in Kingston and Ottawa) but am a dual citizen.
New Fuglies
02-01-2005, 23:22
The reason US products are cheaper is because the government tends to butt out of business affairs and let the free market take course.

Uhhh like prescription medications? LOL!
Willamena
02-01-2005, 23:32
Well, I am a Saskatchewan borne prairie boy! Home of Candian Socialism, place where Health Care and the ATM machine come from. Now, I go to school in Alberta, Edmonton actually, whose motto should be, our hockey team used to be really good in the eighties....honest!
For all of the anti-Alberta sentiment, I really understand your position. The east controlls national policy, the federal agenda, and dsitribution of equalisation payments, that's enough to make anyone cranky! I mean, regional disparity is one of the biggest problems facing Canada today, from Quebec Seperatists to Truduae flipping the bird to a crowd of representatives that included relatives of mine. That is the government that we see.
As for Canada being immoral, joining the ultra-left wing liberal nations like Amsterdam in recognising same-sex marriage, and having a court literally re-write the Constitution in order to impose a highly unpopular set of morality on the majority is incredible! Could you imagine an American president doing that?! There would be revolution!

Um.... you sure you're a Canadian? What "national policy" and "federal agenda" does "the east" control? Ottawa is not "the east." Who are the Truduae? Some liberal cult out east? And same-sex marriages are not authorized because of some alliegence to the Netherlands, but because the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms specifies no sex or gender discrimination.
Zeppistan
02-01-2005, 23:40
The reason US products are cheaper is because the government tends to butt out of business affairs and let the free market take course.


Yep - it's all of those "cheap" American products that lead to.... trade deficits?


Or did you mean the "butting out" like legislating it so that health care providers can't band together to negotiate favourable bulk rates for their patients?


Please elaborate.
Holy Sheep
02-01-2005, 23:58
their main hobby seems to be bashing the US

We bash everyone up here.
Siljhouettes
03-01-2005, 00:00
I live in Canada...http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/banana.gif
Best. Smilie. Ever!
Legless Pirates
03-01-2005, 00:01
It's...... big
Siljhouettes
03-01-2005, 00:04
http://www.stephaniesworld.com/Canadarocks.gif

...And

http://www.stephaniesworld.com/beaver1.jpg

says, don't forget it! ..*LOL* :D
OMG, Nationalist freak.

...


http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/banana.gif
Siljhouettes
03-01-2005, 00:05
I'm a little Anti-Alberta... but.. Mostly just a sibling thing, I still love them, just wish they would stand up and walk straight..lol :P
What? But stuff is cheep in Alberta!
Liesurlann
03-01-2005, 00:33
I'm kinda impressed by the fact that (if I remember anything from history) Canada gained independence without a revolution. I could be wrong, but I am too lazy to look it up... :)
Apathetic Bastards
03-01-2005, 00:42
Um.... you sure you're a Canadian? What "national policy" and "federal agenda" does "the east" control? Ottawa is not "the east."

Depends on point of view. Anything east of Manitoba is considsered 'the east' when the speaker is from the prairies, but of course for anyone from ontario, 'down east' referes to the maritimes. Of course, everyone from the prairies knows that Ontario is the last real province once you start heading east, so Ontario is the east of Canada. (I may be overstating a little, but oh well. My Canada does not include Quebec. )
same-sex marriages are not authorized because of some alliegence to the Netherlands, but because the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms specifies no sex or gender discrimination.
And which, precisely, extends to gay marriage? It's hardly a matter of discrimination, unless you believe all of the activists (on either side) Unless you mean that the legal definition of anything must not specify male or female in its definition - although if that is the case, then why do abortion laws only grant rights to women?

Oh, and to the issue raised elsewhere about 14 being the age of consent... if you really have a problem waiting until a girl is 14, you can always move to one of the states where the age is 12 or 13. (I seem to recall Arkansas, West Virginia, and Maryland were some of the states, but it's been a long time since I looked it up....)

So, I guess my point is... all countries suck. Each for their own reasons, of course. So, is there really any point to the bashing? Nobody lives in a perfect country, after all.
C-anadia
04-01-2005, 02:07
Well, I am a Saskatchewan borne prairie boy! Home of Candian Socialism, place where Health Care and the ATM machine come from. Now, I go to school in Alberta, Edmonton actually, whose motto should be, our hockey team used to be really good in the eighties....honest!
For all of the anti-Alberta sentiment, I really understand your position. The east controlls national policy, the federal agenda, and dsitribution of equalisation payments, that's enough to make anyone cranky! I mean, regional disparity is one of the biggest problems facing Canada today, from Quebec Seperatists to Truduae flipping the bird to a crowd of representatives that included relatives of mine. That is the government that we see.
As for Canada being immoral, joining the ultra-left wing liberal nations like Amsterdam in recognising same-sex marriage, and having a court literally re-write the Constitution in order to impose a highly unpopular set of morality on the majority is incredible! Could you imagine an American president doing that?! There would be revolution!
I will fight and die to protect my nation, and I will fight and die to protect the rights of homosexuals to be homosexuals, but I do think it it is immoral.
Will you fight and die to protect my right to beleive that this act is immoral? Or, like most NSers will I just start getting called a bigot or even a nazi?
I love my country, and I used to live fifteen minutes from USA, and I wouldn't wish that country on anyone. I think Bush is an idiot, I do not support the war in Iraq and though I thought Bowling for Columbine was great, Farenheit 911 was pretty sad. I knew Bush was an idiot already, but that kind of biased filmaking almost changed my mind. I voted for tyhe Conservative Party, and my MP is in Ukraine safe-gaurding democracy without the use of force.
We have problems, that is true, what country doesn't? We have only 30 million people spread over the second largest nation in the world! We have a representation-by-population election system that marginalises regions like the west and the maritimes, we have two other cultures woking towards self-government in the form of the French in the east and the Natives in the North. But, I am writing this wearing a T-Shirt from a box of Canadian beer with a Maple Leaf on it, and I am almost moved to tears with pride knowing that I live in a ntion that we can even discuss this issues without being shot.
Some are free to be gay without ebding up stoned to death, others are able to speak the Word of God without ending up political prisoners.

God Keep Our Land, Glorious and Free!

WWJD
Amen. Amen to that eh. and does that T-Shirt say "I was Canadian"? :p fookin good on you ya tooque wearing hoser.
Asylum Nova
04-01-2005, 02:18
I love it. Absolute gorgeous scenery, and wonderful people, one of them being my lover. *melts*

-Nova
Brandera
16-01-2005, 09:24
I am from Toronto, Ontario. And I love my country. I, more specifically, love Toronto. The Unitied Nations has described Toronto as the most multicultural city in the world.

I don't fool myself into believing that Canada is without it's problems, but I really respect the idea that mutliculturalism is celebrated here more than it is in the US. You guys have your melting pot. We've got....stew. It's nice.

Also, without us there would be no The Simpsons.

Canadian World Domination (http://cwd.ptbcanadian.com) - a Proud Tradition since 1812.
Blessed Assurance
16-01-2005, 09:33
I agree Canada is a great place, but be ready to foot the bill for all of those (free) socialist benifits. Your taxes are going to be pretty high.... And you know Conan Obrien is going to be the PM someday, his dog will be that puppet...
The Plutonian Empire
16-01-2005, 09:37
Been to canada once. Don't remember 'cause I was too young.

Seems like paradise compared to Bush's ( :rolleyes: ) America.
Wong Cock
16-01-2005, 10:55
The promised land. Everything America claims to be and then some.
Ooger
16-01-2005, 11:30
You guys have your melting pot. We've got....stew. It's nice.

no no...it's not stew, it's a tossed salad! everyone gets to keep their own flavour (culture, celebrations, beliefs, etc) but still be part of the whole. :)

i'm canadian by the way. yay vancouver!
Boonytopia
16-01-2005, 12:03
I was born in Edmonton, but my family moved to Aus when I was but a baby. I've been back a few times now & I love it.
Brandera
17-01-2005, 05:51
I agree Canada is a great place, but be ready to foot the bill for all of those (free) socialist benifits. Your taxes are going to be pretty high.... And you know Conan Obrien is going to be the PM someday, his dog will be that puppet...

You act as though we just got health-care yesterday and will be shocked tomorrow when our taxes go up. Things are steady, man.

Anyway, I like Conan.
Battlestar Christiania
17-01-2005, 05:54
the fact that it has much lower rates of all types of crime,
Afraid we don't, mate.

Don't think of packing up and moving to Canada like you're going away, think of it as coming home.

The porch lights are on. There's hash brownies on the counter. There are no guns in the house. Just hang your coat, pull up a chair and meet your neighbours.

That's a better description of, say, Boise, than, say, Toronto. Fact is, Canada has one of the highest gun-ownership rates in the world.

I live in Canada, and I can't wait to get out. :/
Battlestar Christiania
17-01-2005, 06:01
Oh, and to the issue raised elsewhere about 14 being the age of consent... if you really have a problem waiting until a girl is 14, you can always move to one of the states where the age is 12 or 13. (I seem to recall Arkansas, West Virginia, and Maryland were some of the states, but it's been a long time since I looked it up....)

No U.S. jurisdiction has an age of consent lower than 16, and crossing a state line with the intent of engaging in sexual relations with an individual under the age of 18 is a federal offense.
PIcaRDMPCia
17-01-2005, 06:03
I am from Toronto, Ontario. And I love my country. I, more specifically, love Toronto. The Unitied Nations has described Toronto as the most multicultural city in the world.

I don't fool myself into believing that Canada is without it's problems, but I really respect the idea that mutliculturalism is celebrated here more than it is in the US. You guys have your melting pot. We've got....stew. It's nice.

Also, without us there would be no The Simpsons.

Canadian World Domination (http://cwd.ptbcanadian.com) - a Proud Tradition since 1812.
Woah...I'd forgotten about this thread as well. All hail thread resurrectors!
HE HATE ME
17-01-2005, 06:05
No U.S. jurisdiction has an age of consent lower than 16, and crossing a state line with the intent of engaging in sexual relations with an individual under the age of 18 is a federal offense.

I think a few US states set the age of consent at 14.
United Freedoms
17-01-2005, 06:15
That's a better description of, say, Boise, than, say, Toronto. Fact is, Canada has one of the highest gun-ownership rates in the world.

I live in Canada, and I can't wait to get out. :/

But one of the lowest gun-crime rates in the world!

As for your leaving, I can't imagine a reason that I would do that. I think what we've got going is the greatest society in the Western Hemisphere.

I live in Surrey/White Rock, British Columbia, by the way.

The Criminal Code does not now criminalize consensual sexual activity with or between persons 14 or over, unless it takes place in a relationship of trust or dependency, in which case sexual activity with persons over 14 but under 18 can constitute an offence, notwithstanding their consent. Even consensual activity with those under 14 but over 12 may not be an offence if the accused is under 16 and less than two years older than the complainant.

I think I can clear this up, as I am a high school student who recently went over this in Social Studies and P.E.. The age of sexual consent in Canada is 14, and it IS legal for a 14 year old to have sex with an 80 year old. However, between the ages of 14 and 18, there is an important restriction in place, the line about "unless it takes place in a relationship of trust or dependency" refers to it. It basically states that you cannot have sex with a person over 14 but under 18, if you are in a position of power over them. Therefore, it is not legal to have sex with a 14 year old if you are their teacher, pastor, boss etc..

Also, statutory rape does not exist in Canada, as an offense under the criminal code.
Battlestar Christiania
17-01-2005, 06:31
I think a few US states set the age of consent at 14.
Okay, I've checked, and that's true for a couple of states, but only under specific circumstances. There is no state with a blanket age of 16, and stricter laws may have been enacted in the past couple years.
Battlestar Christiania
17-01-2005, 06:37
But one of the lowest gun-crime rates in the world!

And no way to effectively defend oneself from ANY manner of crime.


As for your leaving, I can't imagine a reason that I would do that.

Ah, but you are not me. ;)


I think what we've got going is the greatest society in the Western Hemisphere.

And you're welcome to it.


I live in Surrey/White Rock, British Columbia, by the way.

I'm holing up in Fredericton, N.B. at the moment, but I've lived just about everywhere east of Keswick, Ontario.
Lester P Jones
17-01-2005, 06:51
Im a canaidain who lives in a tiny hick town on a mountain in Alberta.

Its cool. Lots of marijuana (good and bad thing), 5000 people, coal mine, used to have a mill. good little canadian town.
HE HATE ME
17-01-2005, 06:54
Canada is full of Chinese ppl
Boonytopia
17-01-2005, 07:15
Im a canaidain who lives in a tiny hick town on a mountain in Alberta.

Its cool. Lots of marijuana (good and bad thing), 5000 people, coal mine, used to have a mill. good little canadian town.

Not near Hinton is it?
Boonytopia
17-01-2005, 07:22
And no way to effectively defend oneself from ANY manner of crime.

I don't get this one. :confused:
Jake 4
17-01-2005, 07:29
Canada thinks its better than the US but its not.they are America JR
Rangerville
18-01-2005, 04:01
I live in Canada, in a town called Prince Rupert, British Columbia. It is on the northcoast of the province on an island called Kaien Island, it's right on the pacific ocean. I love Canada, but i like the U.S. too, i have tons of friends there. New York City is my favorite place in the world, and i could see myself living there if the opportunity ever came up. I come from a family of immigrants, my mom and her family came here from Italy in 1962 and my dad's family came here from England, Scotland, and i think Ireland, in the 1800's and 1900's. I like that people of all races, creeds, sexual orientations, etc. can live here in relative harmony. I am a proud supporter of the NDP party, and i voted for them in the last election.
Pongoar
18-01-2005, 04:30
They're our boring neighbor to the north, as one of my friends put it. He denies it, but I think he's canadian.
Buechoria
18-01-2005, 04:41
I really enjoyed MY visit to Canada. The hotel was fantastic, and everyone was friendly.
Kryozerkia
18-01-2005, 04:45
It's damned cold up here! It's so cold, my igloo froze!! :D
Uzuum
18-01-2005, 04:51
Canada thinks its better than the US but its not.they are America JR



Do enlighten me as to how you are superior to us?

Personally, I much prefer living in Canada as opposed to America, yes it is much colder, but at least shoveling snow in an enjoyable pass time (usually).
New Kanteletar
18-01-2005, 05:01
Do enlighten me as to how you are superior to us?

Personally, I much prefer living in Canada as opposed to America, yes it is much colder, but at least shoveling snow in an enjoyable pass time (usually).

Blasphemer :mad:
Nah I'm just kidding. But snow does suck though.
Living in Cowtown right now. Now if only we could find a way to get rid of King Ralph...
Pacitalia
18-01-2005, 05:25
Woot! A pro-Canada topic! *hugs all*

I live in Delta, British Columbia (another suburb of Vancouver. Yes, another another one. ;) We have many)
Traegen
18-01-2005, 05:39
Canada is full of Chinese ppl

Are you saying this is a bad thing or a good thing? I'm confused. For me it's a good thing. I grew up and still live in the multi-culturalness of Toronto and love every aspect.
Alien Born
18-01-2005, 06:23
I have no idea, as I have never been there, but I believe it is a little chilly this time of year.
Seriously, it sounds like a great place to live and I'd love to visit. My one reservation is, being English, is that I absolutely detest the French language. So no Quebec.
CanuckHeaven
18-01-2005, 06:36
I love the "North of Barrie?" "South of North Bay?"
Who hails from Waterloo region?

Anyways. Don't get too mushy about "Free health care for all!", most Canadians would tell you it's broken. While there's differences of opinion on how to fix it (there's no debate, it gets shut down very quickly by one person shouting out "They're going to scrap it!" or "They're going to make us the next State!"), it's general knowledge now that we have a vast shortage of doctors (except in heavily urban areas, where business is good), long waiting lists for specialized care, and gradually services (like optimetry and dentistry) are losing their federal/provincial coverage.

Naturally, those are the only two areas that concern me.... I haven't seen my doctor in... six? Seven years? But I see my dentist every couple of months, had my wisdom teeth out six months ago and my damned eyes won't fix themselves :\

Canada's a great place to live. The odd thing is, now I haven't lived in the US at all but I've visited, just like I've visited Toronto and Ottawa.... it's not that different.

Unless you get hurt or something.
Most Canadians would say our health care system is broken? Please provide a source because I think that is totally inaccurate. Here BTW is some food for thought:

"Indeed, most Americans, or 54 percent, are now dissatisfied with the overall quality of health care in the United States — the first majority in three polls since 1993, and up 10 points since 2000."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/US/healthcare031020_poll.html

What say you now?
Armandian Cheese
18-01-2005, 06:48
The waiting times are worth not having to take a second job to set a broken leg.... Where are Americans getting their flu shots from???.... Yes our military sucks.... Drug use is also prevalent in the U.S.(at least I don't have to worry about getting shot while I buy my drugs)... Age of consent is NOT 14, if a 14 has sexual relations with an 80 year old, that is against the law... morality and religion are at an all time low in the US as well.... And for the record, in the war of 1812 We burned down HALF THE F*CKING WHITE HOUSE... Learn to check the facts first Yankee..........
I don't have time to rebutt the others, but if you'll remember, it was the BRITS who burned the White House. Canada didn't exist.
Willamena
18-01-2005, 06:52
I don't have time to rebutt the others, but if you'll remember, it was the BRITS who burned the White House. Canada didn't exist.
Just because we were pre-country doesn't mean we weren't Canadians. :-)

EDIT: and what makes you think that British-Canadians aren't British? :-)
United Freedoms
18-01-2005, 06:54
While it's true that the burning of the White House took place before Canada's confederation in 1867, the attack on Washington was done by British and what would eventually be called "Canadian" troops.

Canada may not have existed at the time, but last I checked, Americans still call their founding fathers and revolutionary war soldiers Americans even though the country didn't exist at the time.
United Freedoms
18-01-2005, 06:57
And no way to effectively defend oneself from ANY manner of crime.

This doesn't make any sense.

We need guns to protect ourselves from the crime we don't have, which seems to be caused by guns in the first place, which we need to protect ourselves from other people with guns?

Our amount of gun crime seems too negligible to justify needing guns to protect ones family from other gun-toters, criminal or otherwise.
Lord_VTG
18-01-2005, 07:05
Cold Eh!
United Freedoms
18-01-2005, 07:11
Very.
Lord_VTG
18-01-2005, 07:21
OUR GOVERMENT IN US KEEPS IT UP! I'll Become a Canadian, the frame of mind up there is so good they got the right Idea! Lord VTG
Dobbs Town
18-01-2005, 07:26
OUR GOVERMENT IN US KEEPS IT UP! I'll Become a Canadian, the frame of mind up there is so good they got the right Idea! Lord VTG

They certainly do. What do they keep it up with, though...

I wonder...
The Black Forrest
18-01-2005, 07:30
I like how they say "aboot" ;)
Pacitalia
18-01-2005, 07:58
I like how they say "aboot" ;)

I was hoping that would be left out of this discussion. Now I'm gonna have to kill you. :p