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What's your personal opinion on PETA? I really don't like them, sorry to say....... Wait.. I'm not sorry.

They are worthless pieces of sub-human feces. They would rather see children die than reap the benefits of medical experimentation on animals.

Peta is not too bad. You can make those tasty lamb gyros with them.

They are worthless pieces of sub-human feces. They would rather see children die than reap the benefits of medical experimentation on animals.
Yeah... Sure seems that way. I could understand protesting about cosmetics testing on animals, but if we could find a cure for cancer with medical testing on animals, that would be good.

They are militant, despite whatever they may claim. If your mascot to children happens to be called "Colonel Corn" and he "lauches assaults on the meaties in Texas" then you have to be nuts.

Peta is not too bad. You can make those tasty lamb gyros with them.
PETAns aren't food. Pita, however, is quite tasty.

They wouldn't be lamb gyros if made with PETA, they would be free-range organically fed human gyros. Yum!

PETAns aren't food. Pita, however, is quite tasty.
But then I can't make a joke :(

Foolish extremists, not to mention dangerous. Many of them seem to have a distinct disconnection with reality. I'm sure that some of the things they've done have been worthwhile and commendable, but many of their activities just make me groan and shake my head.

They are militant, despite whatever they may claim. If your mascot to children happens to be called "Colonel Corn" and he "lauches assaults on the meaties in Texas" then you have to be nuts.
Yeah, here's a little more insanity.

http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html

OH GOD!!! MOMMY KILLED FLUFFY!!!!!

Yeah, here's a little more insanity.

http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html

OH GOD!!! MOMMY KILLED FLUFFY!!!!!
Oh my, how crazy.

But then I can't make a joke :(
Well, maybe if you changed to PITA....... Uh.. People Intentionally.......... Something Something.. Oh man, I can't think. Need a chicken burrito. You hear that PETA!!! A GODDAM CHICKEN BURRITO!!!

Well, maybe if you changed to PITA....... Uh.. People Intentionally.......... Something Something.. Oh man, I can't think. Need a chicken burrito. You hear that PETA!!! A GODDAM CHICKEN BURRITO!!!
People Intimately Touching Animals

I know it hasn't been updated since 1996, but this page is always fun.

Espescially the hate mail.

http://mtd.com/tasty/

People Intimately Touching Animals
Yes... That works well.

PETA is a major reason why I still eat veal.

People for Eating Tasty Animals is a great organization.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has noble intentions, but neglects the fact that humans ARE omnivores and humans ARE a priority over our animal counterparts.

Has anyone seen the South Park episode in which Puffy and his cohorts gun down Peta members?

Has anyone seen the South Park episode in which Puffy and his cohorts gun down Peta members?

yes that was on yesterday.

One time a group of people from PETA killed some cubs near where I lived. The cubs were a hybrid of coyote and red fox. The people of PETA did not want the species to mix or something, so they killed them. The red fox is dying out and mating with a coyote would be evolution. That is why I hate them.

One time a group of people from PETA killed some cubs near where I lived. The cubs were a hybrid of coyote and red fox. The people of PETA did not want the species to mix or something, so they killed them. The red fox is dying out and mating with a coyote would be evolution. That is why I hate them.
Are you serious? That's fucked up.

Has anyone seen the South Park episode in which Puffy and his cohorts gun down Peta members?

Great episode. PETA makes me sad that I'm a vegitarian. Damn them.

and of course any discussion involving PETA has to involve the world's most angry (but damn funny as well) man. Maddox.

http://www.maddox.xmission.com/sponsor.html

Yeah, here's a little more insanity.

http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html

OH GOD!!! MOMMY KILLED FLUFFY!!!!!

I can't belive that they show that to kids. I think they're all nuts, but I don't mind the peace protests. That link, and everytime they attack a building crosses the line from being concered citazens(did I mention that I'm dislexic and don't have a spell check right now?) to being terrorists, yes terrorists. Now I'm not lumping them, the people from 9/11 but they do use tactics simlar to terrorists.

They are worthless pieces of sub-human feces. They would rather see children die than reap the benefits of medical experimentation on animals.
Not that I'm against testing on animals for medical purposes, but I do question its effectiveness. Did you know that thalidomide, the deformed baby drug, was tested on Guinea pigs without any side effects what-so-ever before it was used for human pregnancies. Just one example of how animal reactions to drugs and chemicals does not always correspond to human reactions to the same chemicals and drugs.

Wow, I'm glad to see everyone hasnt lost thier minds.

I like animals, especially with barbeque sauce.

Not that I'm against testing on animals for medical purposes, but I do question its effectiveness. Did you know that thalidomide, the deformed baby drug, was tested on Guinea pigs without any side effects what-so-ever before it was used for human pregnancies. Just one example of how animal reactions to drugs and chemicals does not always correspond to human reactions to the same chemicals and drugs.
There are exceptions where animal testing doesn't work, but think of how many drugs are in use. All were tested on animals, and the vast majority are safe and effective. That's the reason it makes the news when one turns out to be unsafe. Also, think of the many drugs that are tested on animals and rejected because of the side effects or toxicity. Aren't you glad that they test them on animals rather than us?

There are exceptions where animal testing doesn't work, but think of how many drugs are in use. All were tested on animals, and the vast majority are safe and effective. That's the reason it makes the news when one turns out to be unsafe. Also, think of the many drugs that are tested on animals and rejected because of the side effects or toxicity. Aren't you glad that they test them on animals rather than us?But what about all the drugs that were tested on animals, found to be dangerous to those animals and discarded, but in humans would have cured cancer or other diseases or similar?

But what about all the drugs that were tested on animals, found to be dangerous to those animals and discarded, but in humans would have cured cancer or other diseases or similar?
I think it's better to err on the side of caution.

PETA? People Eating Tasty Animals? I like them......

Or did you mean those terrorists and animal haters PETA, People for the unEthical Treatment of Animals?

Those little buggers like stealing people's pets and killing them.

And set cows free on the interstate....

They have got to be the dumbest bunch of air-head eco-nazi's around.

Animal testing is just not effective and is a waste of money. For instance aspirin is toxic to most animals used in animal testing. So would we have aspirin today if we had been using animal testing yesterday?

ChemicalaaaaaTeratogen (i.e., causes birth defects)
---------------------------------------------------------
aaaaaaaaaaaaayesaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano
---------------------------------------------------------
aspirin_______rats, mice, monkeys,__humans
____________guinea pigs, cats,
____________dogs
aminopterin___humans____________monkeys
azathioprine__rabbits_____________rats
caffeine______rats, mice__________rabbits
cortisone____mice, rabbits_________rats
thalidomide__humans_____________rats, mice,
_______________________________hamsters
triamcilanone__mice______________humans

Source (http://tabish.freeshell.org/animals/ARfaq/ARlaboratory.html) I know all this is right, I'm just trying to find a credible internet source for you all. Especially the Thalidomide and aspirin one.

Oh, and I think PETA are pretty fucked up. Nice idea about buying KFC shares and then attending to Shareholders meeting and distributing their leaflets. I think KFC managed to get a restraining order on their shareholder though. xD

I can almost understand their concerns, but they have the damnedest ways of showing them! :rolleyes:

Animal testing is just not effective and is a waste of money. For instance aspirin is toxic to most animals used in animal testing. So would we have aspirin today if we had been using animal testing yesterday?

ChemicalaaaaaTeratogen (i.e., causes birth defects)
---------------------------------------------------------
aaaaaaaaaaaaayesaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano
---------------------------------------------------------
aspirin_______rats, mice, monkeys,__humans
____________guinea pigs, cats,
____________dogs
aminopterin___humans____________monkeys
azathioprine__rabbits_____________rats
caffeine______rats, mice__________rabbits
cortisone____mice, rabbits_________rats
thalidomide__humans_____________rats, mice,
_______________________________hamsters
triamcilanone__mice______________humans

Source (http://tabish.freeshell.org/animals/ARfaq/ARlaboratory.html) I know all this is right, I'm just trying to find a credible internet source for you all. Especially the Thalidomide and aspirin one.

Oh, and I think PETA are pretty fucked up. Nice idea about buying KFC shares and then attending to Shareholders meeting and distributing their leaflets. I think KFC managed to get a restraining order on their shareholder though. xD
If animal testing is so useless then why do profit-minded drug companies use it?

There are situations when animal testing does not yield results, but there are far more situations where it does.

Not that I'm against testing on animals for medical purposes, but I do question its effectiveness. Did you know that thalidomide, the deformed baby drug, was tested on Guinea pigs without any side effects what-so-ever before it was used for human pregnancies. Just one example of how animal reactions to drugs and chemicals does not always correspond to human reactions to the same chemicals and drugs.
It wasn't meant to be used for morning sickness in the first place. And had people just stopped using it for that purpose the world would be a better place. Besides, I doubt they tested it on pregnant Guinea Pigs.

If animal testing is so useless then why do profit-minded drug companies use it?
Because of archaic laws from that require companies to perform animal testing. When thalidomide was being tested (in the 1950's) it was assumed that testing on animals would produce identical results to testing on humans.

I can not describe how much I hate PETA and their tactics.

I am an animal lover - I have been a vetrinary assistant, a docent at my local zoo, the senoir animal handler for, what was at the time, the largest pride of black maned lions in the US, I have done animal rescue work for over 25 years.

You do not turn companion animals loose to live as "nature intended". Humans have taken these animal and changed them. They are not capable of 'living wild' - The base instincts may be there, but the training of those instincts, techniques ect are NOT.

Most companion animals dumped by the side of the road, or in a rural area, etc quickly die of starvation, dissease and encounters with other animals ( lets not go into cars and what we humans can and sadly do do to those that we have altered and made use of then disposed of )

It wasn't meant to be used for morning sickness in the first place. And had people just stopped using it for that purpose the world would be a better place. Besides, I doubt they tested it on pregnant Guinea Pigs.
There are few medical journals on the web that refer to testing thalidomide on pregnant animals. Apparently google can access them, but i can't because you have to pay to view them. And may I commend you on your 20/20 hindsight. However, people in the 1950's had no reason not to use it for morning sickness during pregnancy

There are situations when animal testing does not yield results, but there are far more situations where it does.
I can't really answer that, it's a vague and not backed up statement. However, when it comes down to it, you can only know if something is toxic in humans by testing it on humans. Period. No amount of animal testing or testing on stems cells can tell you this.

I can't really answer that, it's a vague and not backed up statement. However, when it comes down to it, you can only know if something is toxic in humans by testing it on humans. Period. No amount of animal testing or testing on stems cells can tell you this.

Animal testing tells you some things, human testing tells you others. That's why you do both. You certainly want to test the drug on animals before you give it to any human - ruling out more dangerous side effects is just common sense. Incompatiblities with the human body are worked out later.

:upyours: PETA. I'd kick 'em in the grill with my leather shoes.

They are the most worthless pieces of shit ever to rome the world. They should do something better with their life, and for society.