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Hypothetical: if 9/11 had happened on Canadian soil, how would the Canadian government react compared to how America reacted? Let's be realistic here too. Also, how do you think America wouldve reacted to such an attack on Canada [as well as the international community]?

We would've criticized their security and wonder why the tell would terrorists even WANT to attack Canada....

We'd invade Iraq.

There would have been no "war on terror" unless the U.S. instigated it on behalf of it's neighbour to the north. The raising of awareness and tightening of security and emergency practices would most certainly still have occured, though.

i'm sure similar things...

we would have cleaned up, accepted international aid (i would like to believe that the americans would have sent people over) maybe the same lady would have been donating the doggie booties to protect the feet of the dogs that were finding survivours/bodies.

except that i suspect that our government would have tried harder to get others to give up bin laden rather than jumping in as quickly, then when negociations actually failed, call on the aid of the international community and go to afghanistan.

I don't know if the US would invade Iraq. Bush would have more trouble raising patriotism needed for the support of such a war.

I'm not Canadian, but I think they'd use the world's sympathy to their advantage instead of pissing everyone off.

i think that the international community would have helped out more because Canada is held mroe highly in the international community than America.

Canada would offer every terrorist asylum and blame the US for the attack.

Canada would offer every terrorist asylum and blame the US for the attack.
Can you explain that?

Wow, thats funny.

Can you explain that?

Easy. They were blaming Canada for having leaky border security though where were the 911 terrorists living just prior to the attack?

America is blamed for pretty much every bad thing that happens in the world, that would be no different.

By the way, 9/11 would never happen to Canada, its too dull up there.

Canada would just say "Eh?"
If the Canadian army's wife let him get the plane ticket he might go to the crash site and be glad it didn't happen to him.

new fuglies, where do you live in alberta? i live there too

Would Canadians become more paranoid? Such an attack of such magnitude against Canada of all places would be quite frightening, would it not? I mean, everyone likes Canada.

America is blamed for pretty much every bad thing that happens in the world, that would be no different.

By the way, 9/11 would never happen to Canada, its too dull up there.
You, my friend, have never been here to say that. Take me for example: I have three new year's eve party tomorrow and another 2 the 1st. And I won't bore you with what I did all week. Suffice to say that I haven't slept a lot. To say that things are dull here is like saying that there no water in the ocean. You're simply not looking hard enough.

There would have been no "war on terror" unless the U.S. instigated it on behalf of it's neighbour to the north. The raising of awareness and tightening of security and emergency practices would most certainly still have occured, though.

You're right. Unfortunatly the terrorists would still have their War on the West. :(

About what I said previously: Canadians shouldn't get offended by it, I stole the joke from a Canadian anyway, and he's qualified to make fun of it.

Seriously, if Canada was attacked they'd probably get the European union and invade the US, since we're the only people who would attack Canada.

new fuglies, where do you live in alberta? i live there too

Brooks :(

You, my friend, have never been here to say that. Take me for example: I have three new year's eve party tomorrow and another 2 the 1st. And I won't bore you with what I did all week. Suffice to say that I haven't slept a lot. To say that things are dull here is like saying that there no water in the ocean. You're simply not looking hard enough.


I have been to Canada a few times. Not much special or exciting. I live in the San Francisco bay-area in California. Much more interesting here than there.

I have been to Canada a few times. Not much special or exciting. I live in the San Francisco bay-area in California. Much more interesting here than there.
Well, I'm sorry if you keep a bad memory of my country. Next time you come near Montreal, give me a shout. I'll arrange some good and intersting time for you.

By the way, 9/11 would never happen to Canada, its too dull up there.

You mean they wouldn't support an opressive Israeli government and piss off the arab world?

Will do East Canuck


You mean they wouldn't support an opressive Israeli government and piss off the arab world?


If we didnt support the Israeli government they wouldnt exist.

I suppose there would be a few noticeable differences in reactions.
First off, less people would have died......less concentration of population.
Second, no war in Iraq.......would we have gone to Afghanistan, probably. Even the doves gave a little leeway to the USA to go into Afghanistan.

International support would probably have been stronger, but Canada would not likely have done anything without UN consent. Even then, the military action would have been a little bit more precise and focused, mostly due to lack of man-power and budget.

It is doubtful that Canada would have tried to unseat the Taliban government, again due to lack of resources, but would have negotiated with them for the terrorist cells locations.

All of this is moot however.......logistically, economically, and politically.....Canada would be a stupid target for terrorists.
Kinda like breaking into an abandonned house which sits next to a mansion.

Brooks :(
oh well, not as bad as Bassano or Youngstown :p

You mean they wouldn't support an opressive Israeli government and piss off the arab world?
Israel is not opressive. Israel treats it's muslim citizens just as well as it's Jewish ones. The actions taken in Gaza and the West Bank are to safeguard Israeli security.

Israel is not opressive. Israel treats it's muslim citizens just as well as it's Jewish ones. The actions taken in Gaza and the West Bank are to safeguard Israeli security.
Not to go on a tangeant but I don't think that Israel do. It's muslim citizens are treated like second class citizens with less rights than Jews. Also, some are harrassed to leave.

I'm not Canadian, but I think they'd use the world's sympathy to their advantage instead of pissing everyone off.
well, that's what the US did until we invaded iraq.

Not to go on a tangeant but I don't think that Israel do. It's muslim citizens are treated like second class citizens with less rights than Jews. Also, some are harrassed to leave.
Are second class citizens allowed to hold seats in the knesset?

well, that's what the US did until we invaded iraq.
But again we decided to Invade Iraq because we wanted all the terrorist to attack us in one place or something.

Beyond tightening their borders, there would be little else Canada could really do. Canada's military is incredibly underfunded, so any military response would have to be as part of an alliance. And if Canada went running to the U.N. to solve their problems, absolutely nothing would happen. As I am not Canadian I can only speculate about what they would do in this situation, but I do have to pose the question as to why terrorists would even bother with Canada? There are more appealing targets out there. Canada simply is not a threat to them...or to anyone else for that matter.

If you aren't Canadian, then in all seriousness you cannot be a fair arbiter of such a circumstance. Outsiders speculating on what we would have done? Hogwash.

Aside from the obvious (for instance, what bloody target would they have hit?!), I think we would have been pissed off beyond all belief, and the response would have been along the lines of the FLQ Crisis - enacting the War Measures Act, for instance. We wouldn't have gone and bombed random countries, mostly because we couldn't (and still cannot), but eventually we would have taken multilateral military action.

It also would have resulted in a large diversion of federal funds towards the military, instead of pouring it down the healthcare hole like we always do.

And if everybody doesn't think we're a threat, then... well, we'll have to use that to our advantage - in more ways than the obvious.

Uh...and what huge buildings would they hit?

I have been to Canada a few times. Not much special or exciting. I live in the San Francisco bay-area in California. Much more interesting here than there.

what are you a fucking moron? You went to canada hey? Sounds like you went to detroit or long beach. Canada is larger than the USA fruitloop, many different areas to choose from, some boring some great.

Now frisco on the other hand certainly is a over rated area...

Brooks :(

yikes dude what do you do when your not killing cows :p

Uh...and what huge buildings would they hit?

Are peops from the states this stupid?

Toronto's calgary's van's montreal's? maybe?

you are joking?

what are you a fucking moron? You went to canada hey? Sounds like you went to detroit or long beach. Canada is larger than the USA fruitloop, many different areas to choose from, some boring some great.

Now frisco on the other hand certainly is a over rated area...


I have been to most of the big cities asshole. I have a lot of family up there and have spent a lot of time there.


Your just jealous because you live in a boring country.

what are you a fucking moron? You went to canada hey? Sounds like you went to detroit or long beach. Canada is larger than the USA fruitloop, many different areas to choose from, some boring some great.

Now frisco on the other hand certainly is a over rated area...

As a fellow Canuck I know it's annoying to be confronted with this dribble, but careful with how you react (flamming)

I have been to most of the big cities asshole. I have a lot of family up there and have spent a lot of time there.


Your just jealous because you live in a boring country.

dude you live in frisco, nuff said.

And what "big" city did you go to? From someone who has been to frisco and vancouver + toronto, i can assure you that the canuck cites win hands down.

And this is from someone who hates toronto...

first of all, why would terrorists attack canada? boredom?

second, what building would they attack?

third, canada would probably react similar to the way america reacted in the beginning, be really sad and accept aid and sympathy from other countries. we probably wouldn't have gone to war and if we did we would only go for bin laden and we would leave iraq alone. canada is not a war loving country. we wouldnt pass any Patriot Acts that invade people's freedom because canada is a very liberal country. we would have focused more on cleaning up the mess and trying to go on with life. if an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth was the right way to do things, the whole world would be blind and toothless.

I'm not Canadian, but I expect that it would be likely that Canada would come and ask the Commenwealth countries for support, aid, whatever we could give them, and I'd be pleased to see my tax money going toward helping them one way or another.

Course, the Queen would come and visit wherever it happened to boost morale and make a speech saying how outrageous the attack was, seeing as she's Head of State (I think...feel free to correct).

Are peops from the states this stupid?

Toronto's calgary's van's montreal's? maybe?

you are joking?

Dude, I've lived in south Cali all my life. So I don't know of any big buildings over there. Big fucking whoop. I'm not a "large building in other countries" expert. I'm not getting a masters in "knowing what buildings in differen places are larger then normal sized."

The entire world would hate the terrorists because Canada is peaceful and hasn't done anything wrong. The American government would send aid to Mexico and would've declared war on a non-existant country. That and there aren't any symbols to attack. If they wanted to go for big buildings, the CN tower, but that's pretty hard to hit. There are a few nameless skyscrapers, no symbols. Probably the most devestating target to hit on Canadian soil would be the giant Moose which welcomes people to Moose Jaw :p

Dude, I've lived in south Cali all my life. So I don't know of any big buildings over there. Big fucking whoop. I'm not a "large building in other countries" expert. I'm not getting a masters in "knowing what buildings in differen places are larger then normal sized."

again I cant believe im sounding pro TO here, but untill recently TO had the biggest free standing structure in the world for a time.

I personally live in calgary and this city of 1.1 mill has a bigger down town than (office building wise) than places like frisco. Lots of large oil + gas headquaters here. Actually would be a good place to hit canada.

buddy I think your getting your "my own corner of the world is best" diploma, fuckin goof...

Hypothetical: if 9/11 had happened on Canadian soil, how would the Canadian government react compared to how America reacted? Let's be realistic here too. Also, how do you think America wouldve reacted to such an attack on Canada [as well as the international community]?

Well if you're asking for realistic.. it would not of been an issue. America was attacked for their foreign policy. Why is that so hard for people to understand? It wasn't random.. Change American foreign policy or expect more of the same for years to come. No power keeps it. History has shown us that time and again.. change American foreign policy and people will stop attacking you. American foreign policy is horribly flawed! It would appear every one gets that except some Americans.

Well if you're asking for realistic.. it would not of been an issue. America was attacked for their foreign policy. Why is that so hard for people to understand? It wasn't random.. Change American foreign policy or expect more of the same for years to come. No power keeps it. History has shown us that time and again.. change American foreign policy and people will stop attacking you. American foreign policy is horribly flawed! It would appear every one gets that except some Americans.


I totally agree. I wonder how long the USA will be in Iraq before peops realize this?

second, what building would they attack?

Well probably economic targets like the Toronto Stock Exchange or some towers in Montreal, Toronto or Calgary that is home of head offices of many important multinational companies.

Or they could attack the parliament in Ottawa. Or any of the provincial parliaments.

Then there's the CN tower, any one of the nternationnal airport (I'm thinking Pearson the most likely).

Many juicy targets...

again I cant believe im sounding pro TO here, but untill recently TO had the biggest free standing structure in the world for a time.

I personally live in calgary and this city of 1.1 mill has a bigger down town than (office building wise) than places like frisco. Lots of large oil + gas headquaters here. Actually would be a good place to hit canada.

buddy I think your getting your "my own corner of the world is best" diploma, fuckin goof...

You're joking right?

I've never once said my corner of the world is best. In fact, I've often mentioned how I'd love to travel. Hell, I constantly ATTACK the jingoistic idiots from America.

Give me a fucking break. I don't know what buildings are in Canada. I don't know what buildings are in the US either. I don't know shit about buildings. It's really not that interesting to me.

But OHNOES! Apparently, doesn't know shit about buildings = HATES THE WORLD EXCEPT AMERICA ZOMG!

You're joking right?

I've never once said my corner of the world is best. In fact, I've often mentioned how I'd love to travel. Hell, I constantly ATTACK the jingoistic idiots from America.

Give me a fucking break. I don't know what buildings are in Canada. I don't know what buildings are in the US either. I don't know shit about buildings. It's really not that interesting to me.

But OHNOES! Apparently, doesn't know shit about buildings = HATES THE WORLD EXCEPT AMERICA ZOMG!


Take that frisco cock out of your mouth and make yourself more clear buddy. You travel all over the world and yet dont know the big cities in canada, righto sure...

Canada would have invaded New Hampshire with three mounties in a kayak, obviously.

Take that frisco cock out of your mouth and make yourself more clear buddy. You travel all over the world and yet dont know the big cities in canada, righto sure...

Read my post again very, very carefully. Let me bring it word for word to you.

You're joking right?
This is my opening, when my faith for humanity causes me to desperetly hope that this is all a joke.

I've never once said my corner of the world is best.
This line is meant to be a ripost towards your thought process of "you just think you're corner of the world is the best." It is, in fact, showing your post to be an outright lie.

In fact, I've often mentioned how I'd love to travel.
This is important. I'm saying that I would love to travel. Not that I DO often. Once again, I'd like to repeat this-I do not, as you said, "travel all over the world." I would LIKE to. There is quite a sizable difference there.

Hell, I constantly ATTACK the jingoistic idiots from America.
Here I strengthen the argument that I made in the first line of this paragraph.

Give me a fucking break.
This is somewhat self explanatory. I'm asking for a fucking break.

I don't know what buildings are in Canada.
Here I do what I have done multiple times-I admit to my own lack of knowledge on what buildings are in Canada.

I don't know what buildings are in the US either.
Now I'm adding the knowledge that I don't know many large or famous buildings in the US-my "corner of the world" as you called it earlier. This brings further evidence that I really do not give a shit about buildings.

I don't know shit about buildings.
This is an all encompassing term here that should answer all building related questions towards me.

It's really not that interesting to me.
And here, the reason why.

But OHNOES! Apparently, doesn't know shit about buildings = HATES THE WORLD EXCEPT AMERICA ZOMG!
This is where I summerize your post and add a touch of humour into it.

Goed, he's confusing your posts with the posts of the guy from Frisco who find that Canada is dull.

A mistake, but I'd let it slide.

Well probably economic targets like the Toronto Stock Exchange or some towers in Montreal, Toronto or Calgary that is home of head offices of many important multinational companies.

Or they could attack the parliament in Ottawa. Or any of the provincial parliaments.

Then there's the CN tower, any one of the nternationnal airport (I'm thinking Pearson the most likely).

Many juicy targets...

*snicker* The CN tower....that's a good one. the country would be horrified if it lost its phallus. :D

I guess such a big cock would offend them as Muslims.

I would be grateful if people would stop comparing the USA to Canada, we are talking apples and oranges. Canada doesn't butt it's nose in every one's affairs.. Americans want to know why they are hated at this moment in history, look in the mirror.. look at your foreign policy. It's not a fluke that America is so hated by just about every one in the world at the moment.

This is not to say *I* hate America, but I see and understand why you are. Mistakes are made by the best of us, the Americans need to see theirs or this will not end, at least for them!

Goed, he's confusing your posts with the posts of the guy from Frisco who find that Canada is dull.

A mistake, but I'd let it slide.

The two did sound much alike you must admit.

Again stating "what building would they attack, canada doesnt have any" is a really really stupid thing to say, and makes you sound like a moron.

Canada would have invaded New Hampshire with three mounties in a kayak, obviously.

And a sasquatch armed with a beaver cannon.

The two did sound much alike you must admit.

Again stating "what building would they attack, canada doesnt have any" is a really really stupid thing to say, and makes you sound like a moron.

I never said they don't HAVE anything, I jsut didn't know what they'd attack. My knowledge on building size should be explained by now hehe.

but eh, mistakes happen :p

I never said they don't HAVE anything, I jsut didn't know what they'd attack. My knowledge on building size should be explained by now hehe.

but eh, mistakes happen :p

ok :rolleyes:

And where are u from from BTW? If you tell me cali im going to slap you...

ok :rolleyes:

And where are u from from BTW? If you tell me cali im going to slap you...

I'm the one from Cali. I have on idea where the other guy is from, I don't think he actually posted it :p

America would have said 'OH gee thats awful' Bush would have gone to vist the devastation in Canada and said Well I knew I was never missing out on never stepping off American Soil. There would have been much joking at Canadian Security. Canada would have held a proper investigation in to why they were attacked. Brought a truthful plan to the UN, if agreeded upon by the security council there would have been war somewhere but at least it might have been better planned!

Why would terrorist attack Canada? What good would it have done?

America would have said 'OH gee thats awful' Bush would have gone to vist the devastation in Canada and said Well I knew I was never missing out on never stepping off American Soil. There would have been much joking at Canadian Security. Canada would have held a proper investigation in to why they were attacked. Brought a truthful plan to the UN, if agreeded upon by the security council there would have been war somewhere but at least it might have been better planned!

Why would terrorist attack Canada? What good would it have done?

You see, sadly this is the problem, many Americans see this as "it could of happened to any of us". This is not true. As I have stated in earlier posts in this thread it was not a fluke or mistake that America was attacked. It is a product of their actions and foreign policy for years in the middle east. The only real surprise is that it didn't happen sooner. Until they realize their flawed foreign policy it's not going any where. It's okay to be wrong. You just need the courage to admit it. The Americans have led a middle eastern flawed foreign policy for years. Until they change it and accept they were wrong, they will keep being a target.

As long as the Americans keep trying to rule as the Romans did, their fate will fall in the same way. They are not the world's police, no one asked them to be. No one wants them to be. Their laws mean nothing outside of their own borders.. and for the life of me I just don't understand why they, like the rest of us don't understand that!

Hypothetical: if 9/11 had happened on Canadian soil, how would the Canadian government react compared to how America reacted? Let's be realistic here too. Also, how do you think America wouldve reacted to such an attack on Canada [as well as the international community]?

They would find the terrorists and launch the CN Tower.
(Which is actually a cleverly disguised Nuclear Missle.)

*snicker* The CN tower....that's a good one. the country would be horrified if it lost its phallus. :D

I guess such a big cock would offend them as Muslims.
Hahaha!! :D

This is what they'd blow up in the West... (http://www.itcwebdesigns.com/Blackcomb_Glacier_Whistler_British_Columbia.jpg)

The NHL season would be canceled.

You see, sadly this is the problem, many Americans see this as "it could of happened to any of us". This is not true. As I have stated in earlier posts in this thread it was not a fluke or mistake that America was attacked. It is a product of their actions and foreign policy for years in the middle east. The only real surprise is that it didn't happen sooner. Until they realize their flawed foreign policy it's not going any where. It's okay to be wrong. You just need the courage to admit it. The Americans have led a middle eastern flawed foreign policy for years. Until they change it and accept they were wrong, they will keep being a target.

As long as the Americans keep trying to rule as the Romans did, their fate will fall in the same way. They are not the world's police, no one asked them to be. No one wants them to be. Their laws mean nothing outside of their own borders.. and for the life of me I just don't understand why they, like the rest of us don't understand that!

Partly true, partly inaccurate. It did happen to America, and would only happen to America. That's because the United States is the world's police, you're right. But guess who asked us? All of Western Europe in the 20th century. And if you think America can just go from hegemon to isolationist in a month without the dook hitting the fan, you are mistaken. Many countries invite us to have bases there because it pulls in revenue for them in not only simply renting the base but also trades and arms agreements we give them (read: Kuwait). It dates back to Cold War times when you had to choose: USSR or USA. The world is still changing from the Cold War and to try and act like the change is done is to be blind to the situation. Europe is finally finding its own identity after 50-some-odd years of having to live either under the protection of America or fear of it.

Some, like Great Britain and Poland have chosen to ally with the US closely, joining in on the War on Terror and so on. Others have chosen to differ (note, there are very few countries that could be considered "hating" America, only two are nuclear, and none are major industrial, but you can figure out which on your own if you're worthy of this discussion) in foreign policy. Why did France, Germany, and for a little bit Russia and China drag their feet going into Iraq? It builds international credibility and helps them to gain clout in the rest of the world in which nations are trying to step into the vacuum the Soviet Union left. China did it because they will be the competing economic power in the world with the US because Europe will never be cooperative enough in the EU to ever get done what needs to be.

Anyway, this would have been really long if I decided to finish it. If you really want to discuss this, send me a PM or telegram or some nonsense.

Back to original point:

Canada just wouldn't be attacked 9/11 style. But if it were (and it wouldn't) then they would work more with the UN (and get very little done) and push hard on the US for aid and major major major military support in its efforts to track down Bin Laden.

But Bin Laden wouldn't attack Canada, because it doesn't do him any good. So your hypothetical if flawed, I know its hypothetical, but I couldn't see it happening.

Sorry for the long post.

from my brief visit to Canada... if it was the French Canadian providence that was attacked, I got the impression that most of Canada would've cheered.

But US would Support Canada. 100%

I would be grateful if people would stop comparing the USA to Canada, we are talking apples and oranges. Canada doesn't butt it's nose in every one's affairs.. Americans want to know why they are hated at this moment in history, look in the mirror.. look at your foreign policy. It's not a fluke that America is so hated by just about every one in the world at the moment.

This is not to say *I* hate America, but I see and understand why you are. Mistakes are made by the best of us, the Americans need to see theirs or this will not end, at least for them!

Shoot if this doesn't sound like the English & French at Munich in 1938.

The NHL season would be canceled.

Very funny. :(

(I hope you know that there has been no hockey this year?)

Go Rangers!! (oh, wait...)