NationStates Jolt Archive

He invited everybody but only when it is under him as a leader (führer), so that he can exploit it politicaly. If he would be serious, he would have joined the onces that were first to take initiative. But he is to proud to cooperate with the EU, Canada and China. While he was still taliking politics, the first EU plaines were allready at the place of the catastrophy.

Well, better late then never, but a pitty that he did not join the first ones. what touches me the most is the unefficiant way he works and the mass lose of money that goes to overpaid US helpers.

I know it is a occasion for 50% of the people on NS to flaim against the UN, EU other non US puppets but I don't care.

Enough with the political bashing!! I'm friggin tired of it

Uh... what in the world are you talking about?

...I think you should at least try to be coherent when calling Bush a Nazi.

I take it your talking about the Asian earthquake?

Seriously...what are you talking about?

Try as I may, I simply can't decipher your post. Could you rephrase your argument, please?

US Agency for International Development started their work about 30 minutes after the first wave hit. Before the President was notified. That's what it means to have a functional government - you don't have to wait for the President to tell you to wipe your ass.

It would be hard to get a program working 24 hours before the US because that would mean that the Europeans were clairvoyant, and saw the quake coming.

If that is true, they are genocidal criminals of the worst sort, having advanced knowledge of a cataclysmic disaster, and not telling anyone - just getting an aid program ready.

I take it your talking about the Asian earthquake?


Course what else? And the latest political move of Bush while exploiting the disaster for its own policy. O how else can Isee this monkey business he is doing now. A refusal to step in the EU plan by doing nothing first and then making a weak copy of that plan 24h later. In wich the dwarf wan't to be seen as the great star. :rolleyes:

If the US aid was not that inefficiant (overstretching of the administration) it could do better by stepping in other organisations or paying back his deficites towards the UN for example. with that money, the organisation could breath a bit again. Hypocrits.

Course what else? And the latest political move of Bush while exploiting the disaster for its own policy. O how else can Isee this monkey business he is doing now. A refusal to step in the EU plan by doing nothing first and then making a weak copy of that plan 24h later. In wich the dwarf wan't to be seen as the great star. :rolleyes:

If the US aid was not that inefficiant (overstretching of the administration) it could do better by stepping in other organisations or paying back his deficites towards the UN for example. with that money, the organisation could breath a bit again. Hypocrits.

I would hardly call $35 million inefficient (that's how much I last heard, let me know if it's gone up). In fact, inefficient isn't even the proper word to use in that sentence. And the UN exists because of our money. We don't owe them jack shit.

Correct, it is currently $35 million, but that figure could increase up to a billion. At present, I believe Germany is still only giving $2.7 million and France is giving $137,000. How generous.

Maybe the UN should come up with the $28 billion that simply disappeared during the Oil for Food program first? :rolleyes:

Course what else? And the latest political move of Bush while exploiting the disaster for its own policy. O how else can Isee this monkey business he is doing now. A refusal to step in the EU plan by doing nothing first and then making a weak copy of that plan 24h later. In wich the dwarf wan't to be seen as the great star. :rolleyes:

If the US aid was not that inefficiant (overstretching of the administration) it could do better by stepping in other organisations or paying back his deficites towards the UN for example. with that money, the organisation could breath a bit again. Hypocrits.

So Bush is "exploiting" the disaster for his own policy just as you and countless other Bush-bashers/general anti-Americans are exploiting the US' contributions to further your policies?

Just a thought.

I would hardly call $35 million inefficient (that's how much I last heard, let me know if it's gone up).
Well, given the reasent freefall of the Dollar....

I would hardly call $35 million inefficient (that's how much I last heard, let me know if it's gone up). In fact, inefficient isn't even the proper word to use in that sentence. And the UN exists because of our money. We don't owe them jack shit.
Ignore this idiot who started this thread. All he does is troll and flamebait.

I would hardly call $35 million inefficient (that's how much I last heard, let me know if it's gone up). In fact, inefficient isn't even the proper word to use in that sentence. And the UN exists because of our money. We don't owe them jack shit.

The EU gave 32 million € (wich is harder currency then the $) and the member states appart are giving about the same amount (UK,France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Belgium together arrive at 26 million).

BTW the UN exists of EU money, the US does not pay shit. You must be aware of the fact that it is the nation that still needs to pay it's contribution of the last 4 years.

I'd send aid only in form of a loan unless i'm guaranteed contracts for the rebuilding process.

Not ot mention that Bush on his press conference today messed up again!

$ 35 Billion uhhh ummmm nooo eeehh $35 million...
The man can't even distinguish between million and billion

Even more interesting is it that his inauguration in january will cost approx $40 million.

Even more interesting is it that his inauguration in january will cost approx $40 million.

Wow speaking of a new Führer in town, such a hypocrit. $40 million for something that is a pure PR stunt.

Not ot mention that Bush on his press conference today messed up again!

$ 35 Billion uhhh ummmm nooo eeehh $35 million...
The man can't even distinguish between million and billion

Even more interesting is it that his inauguration in january will cost approx $40 million.
You wouldn't happen to have a video of that?

No I don't but I'm sure it floats around on the net. I saw it on MSNBC today

The EU gave 32 million € (wich is harder currency then the $) and the member states appart are giving about the same amount (UK,France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Belgium together arrive at 26 million).

BTW the UN exists of EU money, the US does not pay shit. You must be aware of the fact that it is the nation that still needs to pay it's contribution of the last 4 years.

that is a crock ... US makes up 40% of the UN dues.. The UN is an ineffiecent irrellant organization now anyway. IT dosnt function unless the US is avalible.

please you think the Euro is such a hard currency.. it only has 25 states behind it.. Besides the fact that European markets need the exports to US markets (primarly cause Europeans dont spend money)... If the Dollar falls too far.. it only hurts Europe in the end.

please you think the Euro is such a hard currency.. it only has 25 states behind it..
only...

that is a crock ... US makes up 40% of the UN dues.. The UN is an ineffiecent irrellant organization now anyway. IT dosnt function unless the US is avalible. .
The 40% is crock and you know that. Still, you did not pay the bill last 4 or even 6 years. BTW, the UN is one of the biggest employers in NYC so much US'ers make a big profit out of it.

please you think the Euro is such a hard currency.. it only has 25 states behind it.. .
Last time I saw my paper, it is still more worth then the $ and most Arab states want to sell the oil in € now, because it is more stable. If the US was not such a millitary thread for them it would allready be a fact.


Besides the fact that European markets need the exports to US markets (primarly cause Europeans dont spend money)... If the Dollar falls too far.. it only hurts Europe in the end.

Their economies are interdependent, nobody can discuss that.

BTW,Europeans spend more money.

Besides the fact that European markets need the exports to US markets
Of course the US doesn't at all need the EU markets for their exports. :rolleyes:
(primarly cause Europeans dont spend money)...
Spend money on what?
If the Dollar falls too far.. it only hurts Europe in the end.
A worthless dollar wouldn't hurt the US just as bad? If not more.

Here is a site that lists the current US debt to UN (http://www.globalpolicy.org/finance/info/usdebt.htm)

Here is a site that lists the current US debt to UN (http://www.globalpolicy.org/finance/info/usdebt.htm)

So it is getting even worse. Thank's for the informative link. Seems to be something interesting for finding numbers and facts, that globalpolicy link.

The 40% is crock and you know that.40% is, in fact, precisely how much the United States contributed in humanitarian relief last year. That's $2.4 billion.

40% is, in fact, precisely how much the United States contributed in humanitarian relief last year. That's $2.4 billion.

Euh, he was speaking about the % of the UN.
Your number (on donations, if that is what you mean?) does not match with the facts: EU: 38%, EU countries appart: 26%, US: 16%

Correct, it is currently $35 million, but that figure could increase up to a billion. At present, I believe Germany is still only giving $2.7 million and France is giving $137,000. How generous.

Maybe the UN should come up with the $28 billion that simply disappeared during the Oil for Food program first? :rolleyes:
Would you ppl stop being so bloody pathetic and using ever possible event to bash the French by mindlessly repeating what you've read elsewhere, without bothering to check first.
From another post:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiap....aid/index.html
The United States is offering $35 million, Japan $30 million and the United Kingdom $28 million. Australia and Germany have pledged $27 million, France $20.4 million and Saudi Arabia $10 million.
France GNP: $1.661 trillion
USA GNP: $10.99 trillion
France GNP: 15% of USA
France contribution to the Tsunami relief: 58% of USA
Yep, those Frenchies are really parsimonious, aren't they?

It really is pathetic. 'Ohh, another good chance to bash the French! Let's do it! Even if it means ignoring the facts completely.' Let me guess, FOX has been saying this (the $135 000) over and over again to its brain-washed minions.

The irony is the invariably the same ppl who complain about others criticising Bush, and usually tell them to do some research first.